KILLZONE 2 will revolutionize the FPS genre for years to come. (Good Read)

[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"]

Lighting, environment immersiveness, basically, GG is working to immerse the player in an intense theater of war. They are working to recreate war and deliver it to the consumer. With an almost infinite-sized canvas through the Blu-Ray disc medium, GG is working hard to make KILLZONE 2 the most immersive shooter out there and they will achieve it.
3picuri3

really? i could of sworn that was IW, and i could have sworn i've been playing the most immersive theater of war game this gen... hm.

if killzone 2 beats out COD4, i'll eat a PS3.

Killzone 2 looks good graphics wise and some of the ideas for the immersion factor caught my attention.

But I cannot in good judgement hype this game, the ownage factor if this game doesn't live up to potential is just too high.

If Killzone 2 flops, it'll be Armageddon on the internetz. It'll be so big, we'll be talking about the flop of the two Killzones way beyond this generation. Little lemmings and sheep will be talking smack to little cows 20 years from now about it in school yards all across the world.

My conscience won't allow me to put myself in that position. It'd be just too traumatic for anyone to endure.

All though this post was pretty fanboyish i agree mostly on just one account. The cover system. If its implemented well you will see it used a lot more in fps games where it stays first person unlike vegas. This will do tons to add to the immersion and make games more tactical, realistic, and fun.

The rest of the stuff u mentioned doesn't revolutionize games because most devs work to achieve great graphics, physics and lighting and some just do it better with the resources they have to work with. Revolutions come from ideas not technical achievement like highest res textures or most advanced lighting and physics.

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]

[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"]

Lighting, environment immersiveness, basically, GG is working to immerse the player in an intense theater of war. They are working to recreate war and deliver it to the consumer. With an almost infinite-sized canvas through the Blu-Ray disc medium, GG is working hard to make KILLZONE 2 the most immersive shooter out there and they will achieve it.
SergeantSnitch

really? i could of sworn that was IW, and i could have sworn i've been playing the most immersive theater of war game this gen... hm.

if killzone 2 beats out COD4, i'll eat a PS3.

i repeat - i'll eat a PS3 if Killzone 2 beats COD4.

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]

[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"]

Lighting, environment immersiveness, basically, GG is working to immerse the player in an intense theater of war. They are working to recreate war and deliver it to the consumer. With an almost infinite-sized canvas through the Blu-Ray disc medium, GG is working hard to make KILLZONE 2 the most immersive shooter out there and they will achieve it.
SergeantSnitch

really? i could of sworn that was IW, and i could have sworn i've been playing the most immersive theater of war game this gen... hm.

if killzone 2 beats out COD4, i'll eat a PS3.

im a big cod4 fan but i have to quote that for truth

edit: im not saying kz2 will outscore cod4, that ones a toss up, i think it should get 9 though...but im just saying the posters comments were full of truth.

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]

[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"]

Lighting, environment immersiveness, basically, GG is working to immerse the player in an intense theater of war. They are working to recreate war and deliver it to the consumer. With an almost infinite-sized canvas through the Blu-Ray disc medium, GG is working hard to make KILLZONE 2 the most immersive shooter out there and they will achieve it.
SergeantSnitch

really? i could of sworn that was IW, and i could have sworn i've been playing the most immersive theater of war game this gen... hm.

if killzone 2 beats out COD4, i'll eat a PS3.

Yes... Crysis has it... so nothing new again.

All though this post was pretty fanboyish i agree mostly on just one account. The cover system. If its implemented well you will see it used a lot more in fps games where it stays first person unlike vegas. This will do tons to add to the immersion and make games more tactical, realistic, and fun.

The rest of the stuff u mentioned doesn't revolutionize games because most devs work to achieve great graphics, physics and lighting and some just do it better with the resources they have to work with. Revolutions come from ideas not technical achievement like highest res textures or most advanced lighting and physics.

blues3531

Medal of Honor: Airborne already implemented a first-person cover/lean system that's more than acceptable enough. Killzone 2 may improve on it, but it certainly won't be one of its innovations.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="sadikovic"][QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"]

[QUOTE="maabus99"]Have you seen Crysis on the new settings modders just found? I hope this is a joke thread if you have.SergeantSnitch

No I haven't. Matter of fact, I don't even know what you're talking about. I'm talking consoles here buddy, Crysis doesn't count.

Then get off "system" war's and make your own damn forum with your own rules.

What are the "other areas", please explain with details.

How on earth to you "re-create" fictional wars?... Oh my and from the Video's the game is about as intense as my wrinkly foot compared to games like FEAR and COD.

Your basicaly giving an opinion of unproven and unseen projects... unless you have played it this opinion is not worth anything more than an optimistic fanboys opinion.

[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"]Lighting, environment immersiveness, basically, GG is working to immerse the player in an intense theater of war. They are working to recreate war and deliver it to the consumer. With an almost infinite-sized canvas through the Blu-Ray disc medium, GG is working hard to make KILLZONE 2 the most immersive shooter out there and they will achieve it.Zeliard9

With the exceptions of co-op and a cover system, exactly what does Killzone 2 offer than Call of Duty 4 doesn't?

[QUOTE="blues3531"]

All though this post was pretty fanboyish i agree mostly on just one account. The cover system. If its implemented well you will see it used a lot more in fps games where it stays first person unlike vegas. This will do tons to add to the immersion and make games more tactical, realistic, and fun.

The rest of the stuff u mentioned doesn't revolutionize games because most devs work to achieve great graphics, physics and lighting and some just do it better with the resources they have to work with. Revolutions come from ideas not technical achievement like highest res textures or most advanced lighting and physics.

Zeliard9

Medal of Honor: Airborne already implemented a first-person cover/lean system that's more than acceptable enough. Killzone 2 may improve on it, but it certainly won't be one of its innovations.

yeah but this one seems to be better and more realistic. and how can u say it wont be an innovation. its going to be the most innovative thing about the game. great lighting and physics arent innovative its just doing well to achieve technical prowess with your resources...the only lighting thats ever been innovative is hdr.

[QUOTE="Zeliard9"][QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"]Lighting, environment immersiveness, basically, GG is working to immerse the player in an intense theater of war. They are working to recreate war and deliver it to the consumer. With an almost infinite-sized canvas through the Blu-Ray disc medium, GG is working hard to make KILLZONE 2 the most immersive shooter out there and they will achieve it.SergeantSnitch

With the exceptions of co-op and a cover system, exactly what does Killzone 2 offer than Call of Duty 4 doesn't?

Are you brainwashed or blind?

well this thread has joined the bookmarks of other classics in SW :) good work for a delusional work of pure brilliance.

maybe if cows stopped hyping things so hard they'd look a bit less silly when games flop, but they will never learn apparently :P

have fun guys, i have a feeling this one will be long and smelly.

[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="3picuri3"]

[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"]

Lighting, environment immersiveness, basically, GG is working to immerse the player in an intense theater of war. They are working to recreate war and deliver it to the consumer. With an almost infinite-sized canvas through the Blu-Ray disc medium, GG is working hard to make KILLZONE 2 the most immersive shooter out there and they will achieve it.
3picuri3

really? i could of sworn that was IW, and i could have sworn i've been playing the most immersive theater of war game this gen... hm.

if killzone 2 beats out COD4, i'll eat a PS3.

i repeat - i'll eat a PS3 is Killzone 2 beats COD4.

[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="Zeliard9"][QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"]Lighting, environment immersiveness, basically, GG is working to immerse the player in an intense theater of war. They are working to recreate war and deliver it to the consumer. With an almost infinite-sized canvas through the Blu-Ray disc medium, GG is working hard to make KILLZONE 2 the most immersive shooter out there and they will achieve it.Bebi_vegeta

With the exceptions of co-op and a cover system, exactly what does Killzone 2 offer than Call of Duty 4 doesn't?

Are you brainwashed or blind?

he's a cow, duh.. brainwashed.

:P

I love how the only thing that looks good in the original post's screenshot is the gun. Jaggies, bad textures, and low-poly models for the win?

Have you seen Crysis on the new settings modders just found? I hope this is a joke thread if you have.maabus99

Those weren't settings that were hidden. Cryteck just knew that even the most extreme PCs would die under those settings. The CryEngine 2 is damn near limitless.

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="3picuri3"]

[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"]

Lighting, environment immersiveness, basically, GG is working to immerse the player in an intense theater of war. They are working to recreate war and deliver it to the consumer. With an almost infinite-sized canvas through the Blu-Ray disc medium, GG is working hard to make KILLZONE 2 the most immersive shooter out there and they will achieve it.
SergeantSnitch

really? i could of sworn that was IW, and i could have sworn i've been playing the most immersive theater of war game this gen... hm.

if killzone 2 beats out COD4, i'll eat a PS3.

i repeat - i'll eat a PS3 is Killzone 2 beats COD4.

i don't need a chainsaw, i'm going to eat it backwards. just need a diving board and shorts with no bottom.

This is one of the coming shooters IMO to least expand the fps genre or innovate in it, it seems like YET ANOTHERlinear shootersaolin323

i think cod4 takes the least innovative award, it did absolutely nothing new but the sp was awesome though short and mp is hte best to be had on 360. its a fantastic game but no where near innovative

The V.G. leader of last Gen. Sony can not have picked a worse game & genre to pin it's hopes on as Gears has been done and now re- done on PC yet this ( KZ2 ) is their weapon of choice.

I dunno man - this sort of - we can do that too thing - ( two years later ) is not going to fly. IMHO !

Bring on Gears 2 and now what Sony ?

PS: Are S.W. cows running Sony game Div. these dayzzzzzz ? :roll:

[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="3picuri3"]

[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"]

Lighting, environment immersiveness, basically, GG is working to immerse the player in an intense theater of war. They are working to recreate war and deliver it to the consumer. With an almost infinite-sized canvas through the Blu-Ray disc medium, GG is working hard to make KILLZONE 2 the most immersive shooter out there and they will achieve it.
blues3531

really? i could of sworn that was IW, and i could have sworn i've been playing the most immersive theater of war game this gen... hm.

if killzone 2 beats out COD4, i'll eat a PS3.

im a big cod4 fan but i have to quote that for truth

edit: im not saying kz2 will outscore cod4, that ones a toss up, i think it should get 9 though...but im just saying the posters comments were full of truth.

[QUOTE="-Renegade-"]Text[/QUOE] ....and spell the /QUOTE correctly.

@TC

Are you sure you are not part of the Sony marketing team:roll:

:P

I love how the only thing that looks good in the original post's screenshot is the gun. Jaggies, bad textures, and low-poly models for the win?

OremLK

[QUOTE="OremLK"]

:P

I love how the only thing that looks good in the original post's screenshot is the gun. Jaggies, bad textures, and low-poly models for the win?

SergeantSnitch

so as long as things are moving it's ok for the graphics to suck eh?

i'm not a graphics ***** like most cows, so I'm mostly just curious how it works with you...

[QUOTE="blues3531"][QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="3picuri3"]

[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"]

Lighting, environment immersiveness, basically, GG is working to immerse the player in an intense theater of war. They are working to recreate war and deliver it to the consumer. With an almost infinite-sized canvas through the Blu-Ray disc medium, GG is working hard to make KILLZONE 2 the most immersive shooter out there and they will achieve it.
SergeantSnitch

really? i could of sworn that was IW, and i could have sworn i've been playing the most immersive theater of war game this gen... hm.

if killzone 2 beats out COD4, i'll eat a PS3.

im a big cod4 fan but i have to quote that for truth

edit: im not saying kz2 will outscore cod4, that ones a toss up, i think it should get 9 though...but im just saying the posters comments were full of truth.

Text[/QUOE] ....and spell the /QUOTE correctly.

-Renegade-

yeah i never typed it it was just a copy paste job that i guess glitch spot f'ed up

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="sadikovic"][QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"]

[QUOTE="maabus99"]Have you seen Crysis on the new settings modders just found? I hope this is a joke thread if you have.SergeantSnitch

No I haven't. Matter of fact, I don't even know what you're talking about. I'm talking consoles here buddy, Crysis doesn't count.

Then get off "system" war's and make your own damn forum with your own rules.

What are the "other areas", please explain with details.

So other than graphics you are citing KZ2's lighting and enviornment immersiveness. Surely for something to be a 'revolution' in any genre it needs to do more than have nice graphics?

[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="OremLK"]

:P

I love how the only thing that looks good in the original post's screenshot is the gun. Jaggies, bad textures, and low-poly models for the win?

3picuri3

so as long as things are moving it's ok for the graphics to suck eh?

i'm not a graphics ***** like most cows, so I'm mostly just curious how it works with you...

So other than graphics you are citing KZ2's lighting and enviornment immersiveness. Surely for something to be a 'revolution' in any genre it needs to do more than have nice graphics?

deviates1080

[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="sadikovic"][QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"]

[QUOTE="maabus99"]Have you seen Crysis on the new settings modders just found? I hope this is a joke thread if you have.deviates1080

No I haven't. Matter of fact, I don't even know what you're talking about. I'm talking consoles here buddy, Crysis doesn't count.

Then get off "system" war's and make your own damn forum with your own rules.

What are the "other areas", please explain with details.

So other than graphics you are citing KZ2's lighting and enviornment immersiveness. Surely for something to be a 'revolution' in any genre it needs to do more than have nice graphics?

yeah i know. when does a dev strive for crappy graphics? never. everyone wants them but the real innovations and revolutions come from ideas like the fps cover system and that seems to be the only real revolution. i think if its done right you'll see it in many more fps in the future

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="OremLK"]

:P

I love how the only thing that looks good in the original post's screenshot is the gun. Jaggies, bad textures, and low-poly models for the win?

SergeantSnitch

so as long as things are moving it's ok for the graphics to suck eh?

i'm not a graphics ***** like most cows, so I'm mostly just curious how it works with you...

ok, so your blurry mess of low-res textures and shoddy models is OK as long as it's in motion. i think i understand, and i'll try to remember that the next time you post screens to try to bolster your argument :)

ty, just wanted some clarification.

it's a promising title. it could be one of the most immersive shooters ever.

But there is still much too do. There has to be a lot of original variety, the texturing has to be much better (although the excellent lighting is more important than textures.

Your topic is not a good read. it has nothing interesting to offer. it's basicly a fanboys `~HOPE

KZ2 to me looks like a generic FPS with Gears of War-esque cover features tacked on. Hardly a revolution. It might be good but it's not going to be "teh best FPS evar", look what happened when the 1st one came out. Plus Blu-Ray doesn't mean the game's going to be great, I'd be surprised if it's longer than Halo 3, also given the amount of time it's still got left in development if it don't look better than Gears or any other top end 360 games I'd start asking questions.covhunter

[QUOTE="covhunter"]KZ2 to me looks like a generic FPS with Gears of War-esque cover features tacked on. Hardly a revolution. It might be good but it's not going to be "teh best FPS evar", look what happened when the 1st one came out. Plus Blu-Ray doesn't mean the game's going to be great, I'd be surprised if it's longer than Halo 3, also given the amount of time it's still got left in development if it don't look better than Gears or any other top end 360 games I'd start asking questions.SergeantSnitch

too bad you're just putting a baseless speculative positive spin on it, or that might have meant something.

if cinematics are what revolutionize fps games

i dont want to play future fps games starting now

highly advanced physics though? more advanced than crysis?

i think i need a link

do cows seriously have to keep embarassing themselves?

seriously, who in their right mind would hype a killzone sequel?

[QUOTE="covhunter"]KZ2 to me looks like a generic FPS with Gears of War-esque cover features tacked on. Hardly a revolution. It might be good but it's not going to be "teh best FPS evar", look what happened when the 1st one came out. Plus Blu-Ray doesn't mean the game's going to be great, I'd be surprised if it's longer than Halo 3, also given the amount of time it's still got left in development if it don't look better than Gears or any other top end 360 games I'd start asking questions.SergeantSnitch

Like how everyone was proven wrong with Lair and Heavenly Sword?

Why would I need to put a negative spin on a game? I'm not that desperate, I have a job andcan afford a PS3 if I wanted one and chances are once it's got a few more games and possibly been made a little cheaper Iwill get one. All I can truthfully say is what I've seen and think of a game, it just sounds to me like you're one of those who've bought a PS3 and are desperately trying to justify that purchase by what might come to pass. In other words you're playing that old SW game of "Just Wait".

It's no secret Sony is working on an answer for the popular Halo franchise on the XBOX 360. From its controversial unveiling back in E3 2005 up until now, GG and Sony have taken a lot of heat in regards to KILLZONE 2. Can it deliver? Will it deliver? YES, yes it will.

There are many people out there that want this game to flop. There are many that envy the game and claim it will suck simply because the first iteration was rushed out of the gate (and was still a very good game just had a few bugs). However, mark my words, KILLZONE 2 will completely revolutionize the FPS genre for many, many years to come.

From its lighting engine (which is currently the MOST advanced lighting engine to ever be incorporated into a game) to its fantastic graphics, there is no area in KILLZONE 2 where GG and Sony have overlooked. Speaking of lighting engine, currently no game uses all of the advanced features KILLZONE 2's lighting engine uses. My guess is that it will be ages ahead of other games lighting such as Alan Wake.

GG has done an amazing job using the power of the CELL BROADBAND ENGINE and RSX (which work in perfect harmony btw) to create the ultimate FPS experience. The environments in the game are so beautifully rendered that the expectations are to immerse players in an intense theater of war. Every sound, every image, every experience one experiences in war will be iincorporated into this game.

It's no surprise that media outlets such as BBC have referred to KILLZONE 2 as "one of the most cinematic and immersive games ever produced on a console." This game is shaping up to be a revolution in the FPS genre. The highly advanced physics system already renders every other console FPS obsolete.

And with the added support of the Blu-Ray disc medium, I think it is safe to say the game will be a revolution, allowing GG a broad canvas to incorporate their creativity/ideas to please the consumer. I can't wait to play this game on my 40" Sony Bravia LCD HDTV and Sony surround sound system! What do you guys think of the game?

SergeantSnitch

so it will be revolutionary because you like its graphics? haha

[QUOTE="Zeliard9"][QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"]Lighting, environment immersiveness, basically, GG is working to immerse the player in an intense theater of war. They are working to recreate war and deliver it to the consumer. With an almost infinite-sized canvas through the Blu-Ray disc medium, GG is working hard to make KILLZONE 2 the most immersive shooter out there and they will achieve it.SergeantSnitch

With the exceptions of co-op and a cover system, exactly what does Killzone 2 offer than Call of Duty 4 doesn't?

There's no point arguing with this guy, he's a lost cause. You can tell from the language he uses that he's just a brainwashed cow that's spewing out the same rubbish that Sony have been for ages. I mean, look at the bolded part...

[QUOTE="saolin323"]This is one of the coming shooters IMO to least expand the fps genre or innovate in it, it seems like YET ANOTHERlinear shooterblues3531

i think cod4 takes the least innovative award, it did absolutely nothing new but the sp was awesome though short and mp is hte best to be had on 360. its a fantastic game but no where near innovative

Yes, that is my point, essentially KZ2 is a COD4 with another setting

Resistance 2 will be better than Killzone 2.

[QUOTE="saolin323"]This is one of the coming shooters IMO to least expand the fps genre or innovate in it, it seems like YET ANOTHERlinear shooterR-Dot-Yung

And what is wrong with something being linear if it provides an immersive, powerful, rewarding experiance?

Who said there is something wrong ? It just contradicts the thread title, that is all, KZ2 at least from what i have seen, does not in the slightest way revolutionize the FPS genre, not now and definatly ... not in the years to come

Only Bioshock did that so far, not even Halo 3 or Gears

Resistance 2 will be better than Killzone 2.

BioShockOwnz

You are 1000% right in that, that is what i strongly believe too, Resistance was great, it just need a lot more of those amazing monster appearances, hopefully in Resistance 2 all huge monsters are out free :), not THAT would revolutionize FPS genre :)

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Resistance 2 will be better than Killzone 2.

saolin323

You are 1000% right in that, that is what i strongly believe too, Resistance was great, it just need a lot more of those amazing monster appearances, hopefully in Resistance 2 all huge monsters are out free :), not THAT would revolutionize FPS genre :)

I think both games will be really good. Crysis will be good, KZ2 will be good and Resistance: Rise of Man (resistance 2) will be good.

[QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Resistance 2 will be better than Killzone 2.

Rikusaki

You are 1000% right in that, that is what i strongly believe too, Resistance was great, it just need a lot more of those amazing monster appearances, hopefully in Resistance 2 all huge monsters are out free :), not THAT would revolutionize FPS genre :)

I think both games will be really good. Crysis will be good, KZ2 will be good and Resistance: Rise of Man (resistance 2) will be good.

Resistance is proven, Killzone is not. They should've just killed the Killzone name and called this something else, so that it would wash the sour and sickening taste out of peoples mouthes after KZ and Liberations.

Joke thread?rimnet00

Yes and the funniest line was the "From its lighting engine to its graphics" part not much of a leap there. rotfl