KILLZONE 2 will revolutionize the FPS genre for years to come. (Good Read)

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#151 mingo123
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Joke thread?rimnet00

must be

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#152 Bread_or_Decide
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I never played KZ.

KZ:Liberation is a great game.

As for KZ2 it could be great...BUT..I think the biggest problem KZ has is too deply rooted to fix. The entire concept is just really...bland...and dull. Does anyone feel attached to the helghast or this war? It doesn't have a specific visual style that makes it stand out and none of the characters are all that appealing. These aspects are the very core of the game and they are already deeply flawed. KZ should be dropped. Resistance is the PS3 FPS. Go back to formula on KZ.

KZ: Liberation was fun but I'm still not a big fan of the KZ universe. So KZ2 better be fun as heck cause thats the only distraction from the dull presentation and storyline.

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#153 Adrian_Cloud
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]HL2 fpsGOTY> Halo 2. Which one had the higher score?
Thus proving my point, especially here on GS a game doesn't have to score the higher to be a better game. Despite, your "logic". DivergeUnify

Wait, so now you're grouping together Half-Life 2 and Killzone 2 as in the same league. Dear god....

I don't get it, so your logic is wrong and now your trying to rip on me for using a credible example. I haven't played KZ2, but i have played Halo 3, and it safe to say the way KZ2 is shaping up will be a much better game.

KZ2 looks way more generic than Halo3 to be honset. Its cover system is a joke and is just a gimmick rip off of leaning.

Also now that scores are not technically awarded, a game given a higher score is most likely going to be better since its the overall vibe of the game

And sorry, but comparing PC to console isn't the same as comparing console games to console games ;)

:| I'm confused, beccause HL2 is now on consoles, and it certainly a better version that what was released 3 years ago.
HL2(2004)>HL2: Orange box? I think not.

Another thing Halo 3, definately not generic at all... the flood battles were great, the weapons are unique to the halo universe, lacks any sort of gimmicks (yah, Forge is actually a good addition), and has a decent story, great controls, great over-all music. Those are the reasons its not generic.


Could you care to explain how KZ2 looks more generic, i mean Halo 3 doesn't even have a cover system, resorts to back-tracking to make the game more lengthy, the troop a.i drives around in circles in vehicles, the difficulty is insanely easy, the length is short, the physics( are they even present?), lacks variety in enemies, some of the weapons are completly useless, enemy a.i is a joke most of the time, the graphics varry from great to fairly poor(jaggies everywhere, poor cutscenes), there is probably no stand out point in the whole of SP experience(scorpions too easy). MP is the same as halo 2.


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#154 DivergeUnify
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:| I'm confused, beccause HL2 is now on consoles, and it certainly a better version that what was released 3 years ago.
HL2(2004)>HL2: Orange box? I think not.

Another thing Halo 3, definately not generic at all... the flood battles were great, the weapons are unique to the halo universe, lacks any sort of gimmicks (yah, Forge is actually a good addition), and has a decent story, great controls, great over-all music. Those are the reasons its not generic.


Could you care to explain how KZ2 looks more generic, i mean Halo 3 doesn't even have a cover system, resorts to back-tracking to make the game more lengthy, the troop a.i drives around in circles in vehicles, the difficulty is insanely easy, the length is short, the physics( are they even present?), lacks variety in enemies, some of the weapons are completly useless, enemy a.i is a joke most of the time, the graphics varry from great to fairly poor(jaggies everywhere, poor cutscenes), there is probably no stand out point in the whole of SP experience(scorpions too easy). MP is the same as halo 2.


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What makes KZ2's gameplay stand out? HL2: OB isn't just HL2 so thats a terrible comparison.
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#155 hywel69
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Did you cut and paste some of that from some marketing blurb from Sony. lol it sounds like complte marketing driod BS. Oh yeah. and the textures in that pic...ouch. I mean really ouch.
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#156 CreepyBacon
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I think some people are taking video games ab it to seriously.

I'm looking at you OP.

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#157 Adrian_Cloud
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]HL2 fpsGOTY> Halo 2. Which one had the higher score?
Thus proving my point, especially here on GS a game doesn't have to score the higher to be a better game. Despite, your "logic". DivergeUnify

Wait, so now you're grouping together Half-Life 2 and Killzone 2 as in the same league. Dear god....

I don't get it, so your logic is wrong and now your trying to rip on me for using a credible example. I haven't played KZ2, but i have played Halo 3, and it safe to say the way KZ2 is shaping up will be a much better game.

KZ2 looks way more generic than Halo3 to be honset. Its cover system is a joke and is just a gimmick rip off of leaning.

Also now that scores are not technically awarded, a game given a higher score is most likely going to be better since its the overall vibe of the game

And sorry, but comparing PC to console isn't the same as comparing console games to console games ;)

:| I'm confused, beccause HL2 is now on consoles, and it certainly a better version that what was released 3 years ago.
HL2(2004)>HL2: Orange box? I think not.

Another thing Halo 3, definately not generic at all... the flood battles were great, the weapons are unique to the halo universe, lacks any sort of gimmicks (yah, Forge is actually a good addition), and has a decent story, great controls, great over-all music. Those are the reasons its not generic.


Could you care to explain how KZ2 looks more generic, i mean Halo 3 doesn't even have a cover system, resorts to back-tracking to make the game more lengthy, the troop a.i drives around in circles in vehicles, the difficulty is insanely easy, the length is short, the physics( are they even present?), lacks variety in enemies, some of the weapons are completly useless, enemy a.i is a joke most of the time, the graphics varry from great to fairly poor(jaggies everywhere, poor cutscenes), there is probably no stand out point in the whole of SP experience(scorpions too easy). MP is the same as halo 2.


What makes KZ2's gameplay stand out? HL2: OB isn't just HL2 so thats a terrible comparison.


Not really..just comparing console fps to pc ones. The fact that i chose the same titles, was purely at random.

Killzone 2 has stand out gameplay because, of the challenge, its not like halo 3 its more of WWII game where the sense of warfare is everywhere, stray bullets do damage. Enemies are smart and are tryig to flank you, a head on attack may lead to a certain death(unlike in halo 3, BR,Shotgun or plasma rifle,energy sword= enmies owned). Cover system is actually quite effective, and keeps the game fast paced, so your not just running behing an object and not standing there. Its the little things that are put togethor that will make the gameplay stand out. The game also has great physics and controls according to GI.

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#158 DivergeUnify
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Not really..just comparing console fps to pc ones. The fact that i chose the same titles, was purely at random.

Killzone 2 has stand out gameplay because, of the challenge, its not like halo 3 its more of WWII game where the sense of warfare is everywhere, stray bullets do damage. Enemies are smart and are tryig to flank you, a head on attack may lead to a certain death(unlike in halo 3, BR,Shotgun or plasma rifle,energy sword= enmies owned). Cover system is actually quite effective, and keeps the game fast paced, so your not just running behing an object and not standing there. Its the little things that are put togethor that will make the gameplay stand out. The game also has great physics and controls according to GI.

Adrian_Cloud
Sounds good, I realized the game seemed to have a better sense of a battle, whereas H3 had just small scrims( for the most part). The levels looked really linear, though and the cover system still(imo) looks like a gimmicky lean system.
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#159 panos322
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this is what feeling insecure makes you do....

creating BS advertising posts.

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#160 Adrian_Cloud
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The levels are mad linear, they have to hand hold gamers through this game because half of the E3 demo was just a bunch of dead ends( that will most likely make it into the game since, its "destructed" enviroment). I'm not saying its going to be the must have feature of the game, its just an addition that most people will take advantage of.

This game will most likely be solid 9.0 they way GS loves MP(which is pathetic and why i think Assasins Creed and Mass EFfect will get either 8.5 or 9.0)
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#161 sirk1264
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[QUOTE="maabus99"]Have you seen Crysis on the new settings modders just found? I hope this is a joke thread if you have.SergeantSnitch

No I haven't. Matter of fact, I don't even know what you're talking about. I'm talking consoles here buddy, Crysis doesn't count.

Quote your topic title "Killzone 2 will revolutionize the FPS genre for years to come". Crysis is in the FPS genre. Crysis is more revolutionary than Killzone will ever be. Also what is up with you making topics and saying good read today. This is the second topic i've seen from you. Its all your personal opinion. You link to no source at all and go on blabbering about how the ps3 is the best and how killzone is the awesome. I hope killzone does good but at the same time i hope it FLOPS SO F**** BADLY JUST TO SHUT PEOPLE LIKE YOU UP.

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#162 3picuri3
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Zeliard9"]

Killzone 2's lighting is not better than Crysis'.

Rockman999

it doesn't come close to what Crysis uses - anyone in the know knows :)



Oh cmon, let's be serious here. Crysis's lighting engine/setting is so hackneyed and boring, I can't stand it. I uninstalled the demo right away after playing it, just wasn't appealing to me. KILLZONE 2 on the other hand, it's shaping up to be one of the most immersive and robust experiences ever.

hahahahahahaha.

oh my, i predict you will be in some sigs pup :)

either this is a joke thread or you just said one of the most foolish things i've ever read in here.

thinking the PS3 can do what Crysis does is like thinking a midget can take a bigger dump than andre the giant. PS3 does not have the hardware to come close to Crysis.

well youd be surprised at how much a "little" person can hold in.Ive even seen a chihuahua take a bigger dump than a Rottweiler.

i'm guessing you haven't seen any Andre the Giant logs floating about :P

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#163 Rikusaki
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Resistance 2 will be better than Killzone 2.

3picuri3

You are 1000% right in that, that is what i strongly believe too, Resistance was great, it just need a lot more of those amazing monster appearances, hopefully in Resistance 2 all huge monsters are out free :), not THAT would revolutionize FPS genre :)

I think both games will be really good. Crysis will be good, KZ2 will be good and Resistance: Rise of Man (resistance 2) will be good.

i dunno about resistance 2, i honestly couldn't bring myself to finish it, found it sooo boring. but i've had a long history of playing shooters on the PC so that's probably why. the glass breaking physics were top notch though :) but something is wrong with a game when you have more fun breaking glass then playing.

yeah story mode is ok, but the online multiplayer is amazing and fun. up to 40 players and the maps are huge.

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#164 3picuri3
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Resistance 2 will be better than Killzone 2.

Rikusaki

You are 1000% right in that, that is what i strongly believe too, Resistance was great, it just need a lot more of those amazing monster appearances, hopefully in Resistance 2 all huge monsters are out free :), not THAT would revolutionize FPS genre :)

I think both games will be really good. Crysis will be good, KZ2 will be good and Resistance: Rise of Man (resistance 2) will be good.

i dunno about resistance 2, i honestly couldn't bring myself to finish it, found it sooo boring. but i've had a long history of playing shooters on the PC so that's probably why. the glass breaking physics were top notch though :) but something is wrong with a game when you have more fun breaking glass then playing.

yeah story mode is ok, but the online multiplayer is amazing and fun. up to 40 players and the maps are huge.

it was fun for a while for me, but i got tired of the random spawns that would have you right in front of someone else who just spawned in deathmatch.. i heard they fixed some of that though.

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#165 leviathan91
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It won't revolutionize the FPS genre and people need to understand that Killzone is not the answer to the Halo series, nor is it the Halo Killer.

It's just a FPS on the PS3 and I have faith that the game will be good just like Killzone: Liberation. We don't have to have a(an) "Insert popular title here" Killer everytime.

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#166 CrimsonBlade360
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COD4 looks as good or better than kz2
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#167 SergeantSnitch
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Did you cut and paste some of that from some marketing blurb from Sony. lol it sounds like complte marketing driod BS. Oh yeah. and the textures in that pic...ouch. I mean really ouch.hywel69


No, I didn't. It came from my head. Maybe I think like a Sony marketer? I just feel that the products Sony make of high caliber quality.
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#168 FancyKetchup25
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False Advertising
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#169 3picuri3
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[QUOTE="hywel69"]Did you cut and paste some of that from some marketing blurb from Sony. lol it sounds like complte marketing driod BS. Oh yeah. and the textures in that pic...ouch. I mean really ouch.SergeantSnitch


No, I didn't. It came from my head. Maybe I think like a Sony marketer? I just feel that the products Sony make of high caliber quality.

well that gives me some terrific insight as to why Sony is failing so badly with the PS3 :P

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#170 Demetri_OS
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I remember when Killzone 1 was a Halo Killer. It did no such thing. It was a bugged sloppy slow mess. And, now, the same folks will deliver? OK. Let me know when. 
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#171 SergeantSnitch
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COD4 looks as good or better than kz2CrimsonBlade360


No, I'm afraid not. COD4 can not hold a torch to the immersion in a full theater of war the way KILLZONE 2 does. Guerilla Games along with Sony are working to create the ultimate battlefield, a culmination of graphics, art style, audio, lighting, physics, and gameplay all built from the ground up on the PLAYSTATION 3 will ensure an entertainment experience second to none. Guerilla Games is working very hard to exact the true power of the CELL BROADBAND Engine as well as RSX and delivering their results across a broad canvas through the Blu-Ray disc medium. I can assure you that KILLZONE 2 will look better, play better, and feel more immersive to you than COD4.
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#172 SergeantSnitch
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I remember when Killzone 1 was a Halo Killer. It did no such thing. It was a bugged sloppy slow mess. And, now, the same folks will deliver? OK. Let me know when. Demetri_OS


Like I've said previously, the original KILLZONE, albeit great, was rushed out of the gate. It was Guerilla Games first really big project and they were unable to really get their entire point across due to the PLAYSTATION 2's dated hardware. However, with CELL and RSX working in perfect harmony in the PLAYSTATION 3, along with a big dev team and help from Sony, KILLZONE 2 is shaping up to be the premiere FPS experience of this generation. Just wait man.
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#173 Demetri_OS
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Just wait man.SergeantSnitch
Oh yeah, I will. When the the PS3 is $300, im in. I go were the games are, not the hype & future "promises". Thanks!
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#174 Nike_Air
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I just watched the gameplay again to relive the glorious day of the unveling ........ and I have to say I really liked the atmosphere , graphics , style , lighting , effects , destructible environments , cover mechanics , animations ....... and above all else it looked really fun to shoot the Helghast soldiers.

I have no idea about the game's modes , length , variety , multiplayer , etc .......... but I am definitely excited about what I have seen so far. I don't really care if it revolutionizes anything.

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#175 SergeantSnitch
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[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"] Just wait man.Demetri_OS
Oh yeah, I will. When the the PS3 is $300, im in. I go were the games are, not the hype & future "promises". Thanks!



Well then, you should have a PLAYSTATION 3 by around Q2 of 2008. That is a great time to get it, all the great features built in the PLAYSTATION 3 with the added bonus of great games already here.
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#176 Polaris_choice
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i love that you have the line 'lemmings are delusional' in your sig, it makes this thread all the more hilarious.

crysis destroys the muddines that is KZ2. and KZ lighting system is nowhere near as complex as Crysis, sorry.. at least not based on what i've seen.

3picuri3

KZ2 lighting stomps Crysis I dont see the lighting off the Crysis suites casting light on objects. KZ2 has the most detailed lighting of any game period. And if you think Crysis killz KZ2 do some urbran shots of Crysis and compare them to KZ2 Crysis really isnt that far ahead of it in that category.Yes it has beautiful jungles but we saw one level of KZ2 its foolish to think the whole game is going to be that dark.

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#177 Polaris_choice
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COD4 looks as good or better than kz2CrimsonBlade360

Honestly no it doesnt and Cod 4 is done adn releaed KZ2 isnt even in Pre_alpha.

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#178 Polaris_choice
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[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Zeliard9"]

Killzone 2's lighting is not better than Crysis'.

3picuri3

it doesn't come close to what Crysis uses - anyone in the know knows :)



Oh cmon, let's be serious here. Crysis's lighting engine/setting is so hackneyed and boring, I can't stand it. I uninstalled the demo right away after playing it, just wasn't appealing to me. KILLZONE 2 on the other hand, it's shaping up to be one of the most immersive and robust experiences ever.

hahahahahahaha.

oh my, i predict you will be in some sigs pup :)

either this is a joke thread or you just said one of the most foolish things i've ever read in here.

thinking the PS3 can do what Crysis does is like thinking a midget can take a bigger dump than andre the giant. PS3 does not have the hardware to come close to Crysis.

You need to do a little more research before you continue to make a fool of yourself. The PS3 has the hardware to do the visual effetcts of Crsyis. Even Cevat said the Processing power was enough the only problem is RAM. The amount of detail in Crysis is easiliy possible onPS3 but to put it on that scale is what the problem is. In other words you will see games that look better on consoles just at a smaller scale.

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#179 lawlessx
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*bookmarks thread*

we will see come its release date

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#180 Rikusaki
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[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"] Just wait man.Demetri_OS
Oh yeah, I will. When the the PS3 is $300, im in. I go were the games are, not the hype & future "promises". Thanks!

the ps3 is 399 now. you cant afford that?

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#181 Roushrsh
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Once again, another good read :)
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#182 thelastguy
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Yeah it looks fantastic
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#183 Rikusaki
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looksFREAKING AWESOME!

good read!

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#184 ItalStallion777
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tc, can you say anything that isn't opinion, speculation, or made up?

that's the reason this thread fails. you haven't said one reason why this game is revolutionary. yea it has good graphics, lighting, and physics but that is far from new. the only thing you keep saying is about the immersion which you have no clue about since you haven't played it. even if it does really immerse the player that still isn't revolutionary.

better than cod4? i think not. (obviously my opinion. that's another reason why your thread fails. you're trying to pass off your opinion as fact.)

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#185 ithilgore2006
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Stop claiming every thread you make is a "good read". That's not for you to decide.
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#186 Rikusaki
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Stop claiming every thread you make is a "good read". That's not for you to decide.ithilgore2006

i think its a good read too

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#187 ItalStallion777
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[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"]Stop claiming every thread you make is a "good read". That's not for you to decide.Rikusaki

i think its a good read too

and i and the majority of others would say it isn't.

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#188 a_chalz
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huh, seriously??
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#189 Spite_Ninja
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"]Stop claiming every thread you make is a "good read". That's not for you to decide.ItalStallion777

i think its a good read too

and i and the majority of others would say it isn't.

wasnt a bad read. it was funny.

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#190 mistervengeance
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it's great that it has great graphics, i'm hoping it will be a great game, but what does having great graphics have to do with it being a good game?
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#191 jzen_
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i'm as huge of a fan of FPS on PC and/or console gaming as the next guy... but when things are "revolutionary" i'd like to think about gameplay wise, not graphic wise... because that will make the game fun... crysis on the other hand, has crossed that boundary. since the graphics IMMERSE and have an impact on gameplay, it's changed that forever. i'm not dissin KZ2 and will be getting it, its just the term annoys me to no end when ppl just refer it with graphics
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#192 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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KZ 2 and revolutionize the flop scale :lol:
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#193 Titus_WoWplayer
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joke thread? lol its all about graphics...do u remember lair? ...it doesn't look that amazing anyways, its nice but its not revoltionary lol...
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#194 BlueBarad
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This guy works for Sony, he's one of those Viral Marketing campaing people.
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#195 Pariah_001
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and i and the majority of others would say it isn't.

ItalStallion777

I didn't realize System Wars operated oficially under a majority mind set...

On that note: People should make threads with "KILLZONE 2" in the title more often so as to demonstrate the desperation and venom of Microsoft consumers with how quick they flood the threads with insults, one-liners, and "can't compare to Crysis" comments.

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#196 SergeantSnitch
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joke thread? lol its all about graphics...do u remember lair? ...it doesn't look that amazing anyways, its nice but its not revoltionary lol...Titus_WoWplayer


Joke thread? No. Far from it actually. KILLZONE 2 is awesome, nuff said.
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#197 Private_Vegas
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I hope this doesn't trigger another KZ2 hypegazim. The weeks leading up to the Halo 3 launch were bad enough.

But anyways tricked out lighting engine =/= revolutionary. The game will look great yes, I'm not arguing that.But why do you insist on blowing that simple fact way out of proportion?

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#198 neogeo419
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[QUOTE="Titus_WoWplayer"]joke thread? lol its all about graphics...do u remember lair? ...it doesn't look that amazing anyways, its nice but its not revoltionary lol...SergeantSnitch


Joke thread? No. Far from it actually. KILLZONE 2 is awesome, nuff said.

Man just let your evil thread of fail die.
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#199 Private_Vegas
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[QUOTE="ItalStallion777"]and i and the majority of others would say it isn't.

Pariah_001

I didn't realize System Wars operated oficially under a majority mind set...

On that note: People should make threads with "KILLZONE 2" in the title more often so as to demonstrate the desperation and venom of Microsoft consumers with how quick they flood the threads with insults, one-liners, and "can't compare to Crysis" comments.

On your note: Please don't subject the casual readers to that.

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#200 SergeantSnitch
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[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="Titus_WoWplayer"]joke thread? lol its all about graphics...do u remember lair? ...it doesn't look that amazing anyways, its nice but its not revoltionary lol...neogeo419


Joke thread? No. Far from it actually. KILLZONE 2 is awesome, nuff said.

Man just let your evil thread of fail die.



A thread with this post being the 200th post =/= fail.