Lair 10-12 Hours long! AHAHHA Cows pwnzored!!

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#51 reaperstoll
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

GEas of war is still 2-3 hours hours shorter. But i don't see what the big deal is i beat GOW 2 in 11 hours, and its an amazing game, and it has no online or mp.

GOW>GEoW

Huxley_00

 

omg.. what is wrong with people these days?

do they just totally ignore online multiplayer?

this is getting pathetic..

He is saying that he enjoys GoW more than GEoW as far as I can tell. Showing that an 11 hour game with no online or co-op can be better in some peoples views than one with online and co op. 

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#52 Sgt_Hale
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You mean like Gears of War's 6 hour game? :roll:

Anyway, no one has confirmed the length of the game yet, nice try though.

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#53 Iyethar
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[QUOTE="Iyethar"]

Who expected more than 10-12 hours from LAIR? It's a Factor 5 flight action title.

Talk about unrealistic. No-one got "pwnzored", 10-12 hours is actually quite lengthy for the genre and premise.

waynehead895

How Many Cows expected more than a 12 hour campaign in Gears. They Bashed that to Hell even though it had a killer MP.

That wasn't really justified, either.  The ignorance of some Sony fans doesn't excuse hating on LAIR. 

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#54 Adrian_Cloud
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

GEas of war is still 2-3 hours hours shorter. But i don't see what the big deal is i beat GOW 2 in 11 hours, and its an amazing game, and it has no online or mp.

GOW>GEoW

Huxley_00

 

omg.. what is wrong with people these days?

do they just totally ignore online multiplayer?

this is getting pathetic..

:lol: MotorStorm...lol.
:lol: hosting your own matches on live.
:lol: you can't even dis-agree. Even with MP GOW is a better game and so is RE4. Thats a 20+ hour game with engaging gameplay, and great action sequences.

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#55 steve_89
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and i still probly wont find the time to finish it to the end. lol

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#56 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Huxley_00"]

[QUOTE="TerryBenedict"]Yawn. Gears was short too. Whiners.elementz28

 

Except Gears has online..

are people this sad?

Honestly?

This guy is dumber than people claiming 9/11 was fixed..

I can care less about online that you guys payin for..also most action games is around that length 10 to 12 hours..but if anybody wants a longer game then you have to turn to rpgs.and plus the devlopers said u will have to keep playin the game to get certain medals. and unlocked other stuff..so it can be a longer game.

Like their early creations Rouge Squadron :) 

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#57 istreakforfood
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

GEas of war is still 2-3 hours hours shorter. But i don't see what the big deal is i beat GOW 2 in 11 hours, and its an amazing game, and it has no online or mp.

GOW>GEoW

Huxley_00

 

omg.. what is wrong with people these days?

do they just totally ignore online multiplayer?

this is getting pathetic..

 

all about preference.

way i see it some ppl havent adjusted to online gaming since some ppl just had a ps2(example) and some prefer single over multi. i had a friend who use to bash pc games and was a console whore. When he FINALLY decided to try some of the pc games i recommended he loved them to death. Now he plays games like WoW, war3, CS, and he still enjoys playing consoles games.

 

 

I do believe games dont have to be multiplayer to achieve AAA status(just doesnt seem like there are that many out there though). Game i can only think of ATM is Ninja Gaiden/Ninja Gaiden Black. 

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#58 Uptown
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[QUOTE="Uptown"]

to be fair...this game was about 7-8 hrs long and had no multiplayer.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/maxpayne2/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary%3Breview&page=1

it is possible to get AAA without multiplayer people. Not saying it will, but its possible......

Here's another example by Factor 5 themselves.....

http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/action/starwarsrogueleaderrs2/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary;review

Huxley_00

 

this is the year 2007 though..

online wasn't a factor for consoles back then..

Online multiplayer wasnt a factor for PC games in almost 2004? really?

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#59 reaperstoll
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[QUOTE="Huxley_00"][QUOTE="Uptown"]

to be fair...this game was about 7-8 hrs long and had no multiplayer.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/maxpayne2/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary%3Breview&page=1

it is possible to get AAA without multiplayer people. Not saying it will, but its possible......

Here's another example by Factor 5 themselves.....

http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/action/starwarsrogueleaderrs2/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary;review

Uptown

 

this is the year 2007 though..

online wasn't a factor for consoles back then..

Online multiplayer wasnt a factor for PC games in almost 2004? really?

He said consoles. I guess he didn't realize Max Payne 2 was a PC game. 

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#60 AgentVX
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Not only is the game this short, but the jaggies hurt my eyes.  I mean, Lair has nice backgrounds, but the dragons and soldiers are jaggies heaven.  The soldiers on Rome:Total War on the PC, a game a few years old has better looking soldiers than Lairs "Royal Jaggies Soldiers".

This game is gonna flop, and keep people from buying a PS3. 

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Not only is the game this short, but the jaggies hurt my eyes.  I mean, Lair has nice backgrounds, but the dragons and soldiers are jaggies heaven.  The soldiers on Rome:Total War on the PC, a game a few years old has better looking soldiers than Lairs "Royal Jaggies Soldiers".

This game is gonna flop, and keep people from buying a PS3. 

AgentVX

wow.  awwww poor baby, the jaggies hurt your delicate little eyes. you need to rethink what you say man.

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[QUOTE="daswar"]10-12 hours of killing people with a dragon........Shooters have more depth than this!Huxley_00

 

and people bashed Gears of War for being 10-12 hours long! lol..

Gears of War has Online multiplayer which I personally spent at least 50 hours playing..

only 50 hours online?  you must not play much.  did you just get the game recently or something? 

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#63 Gen007
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i must say if this is true cows are onwed and i dont say that alot
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#64 Zenkuso
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Still longer then MGS2, MGS3 and GeoW, but no multiplayer? Talk about lazy again, i mean these guys make some great games that if they had multiplayer like the singleplayer would rock, oh well. high aa for this one i beat.
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#65 Dreams-Visions
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i must say if this is true cows are onwed and i dont say that alotGen007

hard to deny.  10 hours of gameplay on a game with no multiplayer?

A-AA status am confirmed. 

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Not only is the game this short, but the jaggies hurt my eyes. I mean, Lair has nice backgrounds, but the dragons and soldiers are jaggies heaven. The soldiers on Rome:Total War on the PC, a game a few years old has better looking soldiers than Lairs "Royal Jaggies Soldiers".

This game is gonna flop, and keep people from buying a PS3.

AgentVX

arent most average games usually 8 hours long these days. this game doesnt really interest me. i think this game is being way  overhyped IMO.

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[QUOTE="TerryBenedict"]Yawn. Gears was short too. Whiners.ELJUDEZ
True

Yep, and multiplayer is now very MEH due to screwing up achievements. I still probably will buy it because replay is high.

 

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#68 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]Lair will probably flopNike_Air

Under an 8 ?

 

9

This isn't hyped AAA if that is what you are getting at. I would like to know if fuzzy thinks it will get under an 8 and "flop".

 

it really depends, IMO.  the on-ground battles look craptacular based on what we've seen.  swoop down and:

a.) walk over the badguys

b.) burn the badguys

c.) bulldoze the bad guys


...and that's all :?  If it doesn't get more robust than that...and that plays a big role as it appears it will...this game will score somewhere around Dynasty Warriors level scoring.  If I had to guess today...based only on what we've seen and what we know, I'd say 7.5-8.4.  No more, unfortunately.

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bababa... ba tha blue ray!!!!!
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[QUOTE="ELJUDEZ"][QUOTE="TerryBenedict"]Yawn. Gears was short too. Whiners.BlazeDragon132

True

Yep, and multiplayer is now very MEH due to screwing up achievements. I still probably will buy it because replay is high.

 

I have fun with Gears every night.  new maps are hot. 

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[QUOTE="ELJUDEZ"][QUOTE="TerryBenedict"]Yawn. Gears was short too. Whiners.BlazeDragon132

True

Yep, and multiplayer is now very MEH due to screwing up achievements. I still probably will buy it because replay is high.

 

 

how are the achievements messed up?  

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#72 munsoned
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ouch.. for a game with no multiplayer and not much replay value..

 

http://www.g4tv.com/

listen to the 2:40 mark

Is it really worth 60 bucks?

 

I'll rent it, beat it, and return it..

Huxley_00
and i bet it used up alot of that mighty blue ray disc to boot:o
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#73 DanBal76
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I'm not a PlayStation fan, actually i'm an Xbox fan, but i fail to realize what's the problem with 10-12 hours long games. I've taken 8 hours to beat the first Fatal Frame and i completely loved it.
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#74 wildwild
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Well GOW did good...and that was under 7hoursAcenso

mulitplayer added infinite hours of fun to GoW. Lair doesnt have MP cows are pwned

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Quality >>>>> Quantity

as long as the gameplay is solid there will always be replay value.

 

/thread 

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#76 djestar
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This is ownage to the blind cows who still believe blu ray gives you longer gameplay. It probably does since it has more room but no one is going to invest all their time into a game that lasts forever. Anyways this is just proof the formats at this stage still don't matter.

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#77 BlazeDragon132
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[QUOTE="BlazeDragon132"]

[QUOTE="ELJUDEZ"][QUOTE="TerryBenedict"]Yawn. Gears was short too. Whiners.istreakforfood

True

Yep, and multiplayer is now very MEH due to screwing up achievements. I still probably will buy it because replay is high.

 

 

how are the achievements messed up?

Requiring 6 people to get them. Can take a long time when you have people that you don't want to play with. It takes away the fun of playing with your friends for the achievements.

Although that is my opinion, they should have left the achievements untampered.

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#78 BlazeDragon132
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Quality >>>>> Quantity

as long as the gameplay is solid there will always be replay value.

 

/thread

MaTT2011

Yep, and he said the game itself, he didn't say anything about side quests.

There could be plenty of side quests in the game. 

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#79 hellsing321
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How long where the Rouge Squadron games again?
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[QUOTE="Huxley_00"]

[QUOTE="daswar"]10-12 hours of killing people with a dragon........Shooters have more depth than this!Uptown

 

and people bashed Gears of War for being 10-12 hours long! lol..

Gears of War has Online multiplayer which I personally spent at least 50 hours playing..

Gears of War was NOT 10-12 hrs long.  More like 7-8 hrs 

yeah, definatley 6-8 hours depending on what difficulty you were playingit on. you could beat it in one sitting if you wanted to.

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#81 reaperstoll
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[QUOTE="MaTT2011"]

Quality >>>>> Quantity

as long as the gameplay is solid there will always be replay value.

 

/thread

BlazeDragon132

Yep, and he said the game itself, he didn't say anything about side quests.

There could be plenty of side quests in the game.

I think it is really linear, not certain though. 

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#82 bsin94
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Factor 5 confirmed no MP months ago, they said that they are going to focus more on single player, and if the game was succeful, then the sequel would feature a MP option. 10 - 12 hours for just single player if pretty average for an flight/action game.
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#83 cyprus646
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WOW this game has no multiplayer ?? yeah this game is deff getting AAA-AA status :roll:
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#84 bsin94
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[QUOTE="BlazeDragon132"][QUOTE="MaTT2011"]

Quality >>>>> Quantity

as long as the gameplay is solid there will always be replay value.

 

/thread

reaperstoll

Yep, and he said the game itself, he didn't say anything about side quests.

There could be plenty of side quests in the game.

I think it is really linear, not certain though.

I think that the developer said that the game was going to be more linear, to enhance the story telling.

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[QUOTE="Huxley_00"]

[QUOTE="daswar"]10-12 hours of killing people with a dragon........Shooters have more depth than this!Uptown

 

and people bashed Gears of War for being 10-12 hours long! lol..

Gears of War has Online multiplayer which I personally spent at least 50 hours playing..

Gears of War was NOT 10-12 hrs long. More like 7-8 hrs

Doesnt Lair have no MP...Gears does right..? how long does that add to a game? enjoy ur non multiplayer 10 hour dragonfest 

Now we got people bringing up rouge squadron and Max Payne to defend Lair....GOD do u cows ever just admit when ur wrong about something? 

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10-12 hours is short? It took me about 9 hours to beat MGS, and I thought that was really long. :|Not-A-Stalker

AGreed 

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[QUOTE="Gen007"]i must say if this is true cows are onwed and i dont say that alotDreams-Visions

hard to deny. 10 hours of gameplay on a game with no multiplayer?

A-AA status am confirmed.

 

ignorant user

confirmed. 

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#88 Verge_6
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This would be fine if it had some great multiplayer aspects (ala Gears of War), but seeing as there is no multiplayer to begin with...ouch.
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#89 ApocalypseXIVV
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This game will still kill gears. Expect a revolutionary singleplayer exerience, Hyped AAA.steve17989

 Im saving this for ownage
 

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#90 BlazeDragon132
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How long where the Rouge Squadron games again? hellsing321

Same length, but RS had good bit of side quests. I am guessing Lair will also, probably after you beat the main story. 

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#91 hellsing321
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[QUOTE="hellsing321"]How long where the Rouge Squadron games again? BlazeDragon132

Same length, but RS had good bit of side quests. I am guessing Lair will also, probably after you beat the main story.

Thats what I thought. This seems pretty average length for flight games so I don't see a problem. Rouge Leader on the GC didn't have multiplayer either and I loved the hell out of that game so I have faith that I'll love this game too.

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#92 TyrantDragon55
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to be fair...this game was about 7-8 hrs long and had no multiplayer.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/maxpayne2/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary%3Breview&page=1

it is possible to get AAA without multiplayer people. Not saying it will, but its possible......

Here's another example by Factor 5 themselves.....

http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/action/starwarsrogueleaderrs2/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary;review

Uptown

Those were the days when online multiplayer wasn't as important to console games as it is now. Those were also the days when games were $50, not $60. 

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#93 TyrantDragon55
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You also have to consider that usually when a developer says how long their game is, they're giving you generous estimates. Twilight Princess, for example, was supposed to be a 70-100 hour long game, but from what I understand most people beat it in 40 (not including side quests).
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#94 XL83
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You mean like Gears of War's 6 hour game? :roll:

Anyway, no one has confirmed the length of the game yet, nice try though.

Sgt_Hale

It was a pretty nice try, especially since he knows most people won't bother to check out the link, particularly if its video and not text. I give him an A for effort, but he's still teh phailz.

 

Not only is the game this short, but the jaggies hurt my eyes.

AgentVX

:lol: Jaggies. Funny guy. I like how you pretend to be unbiased by disclaiming your jaggies comment with something positive. Very clever.  

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#95 XL83
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Regarding online, a lot of people still aren't big on it because of the online communities and the faceless scum that they can attract. I can play any game online and have fun until I hear some lisping jackass yelling "HAHA PWNED ****ING ****ER!!" in a prepubescent voice. Online gaming sans headsets is the only way to go, unless you're playing with friends.
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#96 TyrantDragon55
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Regarding online, a lot of people still aren't big on it because of the online communities and the faceless scum that they can attract. I can play any game online and have fun until I hear some lisping jackass yelling "HAHA PWNED ****ING ****ER!!" in a prepubescent voice. Online gaming sans headsets is the only way to go, unless you're playing with friends. XL83

You know you can mute people like that in games like GeoW right? 

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#97 spence1988
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For a game like this, I think 10-12 hours is long enough. I don't get why the lack of online is such a big deal... And I find it hillarious that the only people that call PS3 owners cows would be classified as Lemmings or Sheep. Seriously, grow up lol It's just childish. Because in the moment you diss someone for defending the PS3, 2-6 threads down the road your defending the Wii or 360 in the same way you just dissed the PS3 owner a little while ago.
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bu bu teh GOTY :O
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#99 jbrittain
Member since 2002 • 2152 Posts
For everyone who thinks this will be a terrible flop because the game only takes about 10-12 hours to get through, let me make one point.  God of War 1 and 2 were both AAA and both very short.  They had no multiplayer whatsoever.  It is most definitely not impossible for Lair to achieve AAA status with the length of its campaign.  As long as there is replay value afterwards, then it can be very good.
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#100 Lazy_Boy88
Member since 2003 • 7418 Posts
If it's 10-12 hours of epic battles and storyline.... that's perfectly fine.