Lair 10-12 Hours long! AHAHHA Cows pwnzored!!

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#151 haols
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So much for "teh blu-rays will makez games longerrss!!!"

Seriously did anyone expect anything else?
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#152 Codename33
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[QUOTE="wiistation360"]bu bu bu teh bulu raaaaay :cry:XL83

bu bu bu most useless and annoying post of the day goes tooooo... 

...you? I thought bluray was supposed to make games 5 times longer and make every game support a bunch of features... like multiplayer...

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#153 Doomlike_Mitc
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Well GOW did good...and that was under 7hoursAcenso

... no... it was 12 plus. And on harder difficulties more, and it was alot of fun to play over again.

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#154 Doomlike_Mitc
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That's pretty bad, AA then I guess.
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#155 skyform
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[QUOTE="TerryBenedict"]Yawn. Gears was short too. Whiners.ELJUDEZ
True

But it has a mp that changes everything.

I have Gears since it came out and im still playing it alot, are you going to play a sp game that's only 10-12h long for so many months, seriously are you? 

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#156 proof11102
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I thought that Blu-Ray helps makes games longer.....people certainly were claiming that DVD was the reason Gears was so short.thinicer

increaded data =/= increased length

Just take a look at all the stuff that's going on in Lair to understand were all that data from blu-ray is being used in this game.

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#157 miss_kitt3n
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I beat RE4 in 4 hours(with the unlocked weapons)
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#158 toxicmog
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Play an RPG, hours of gameplay.

For the same price :D

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#159 -The-G-Man-
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I wonder what the cows will have to say after so much bashing of Gears's length.
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#161 -The-G-Man-
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[QUOTE="Acenso"]Well GOW did good...and that was under 7hoursDoomlike_Mitc

... no... it was 12 plus. And on harder difficulties more, and it was alot of fun to play over again.

And it had really fun multiplayer.

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#162 DXGreat1_HGL
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[QUOTE="wiistation360"]bu bu bu teh bulu raaaaay :cry:XL83

bu bu bu most useless and annoying post of the day goes tooooo... 

 Damage Control, that should be the next PS3 game. Watch us release short over rated garbage, so our fanboyz can defend our company online...

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#163 Blinblingthing
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No online? Wtf, That's what I was anticipating most. Now it's starting to get dissapointing.l_The_DetoX_l

What Would you expect to do online with a Game like this?

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#164 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="l_The_DetoX_l"]No online? Wtf, That's what I was anticipating most. Now it's starting to get dissapointing.Blinblingthing

What Would you expect to do online with a Game like this?

Fly dragons against one another, try to leap onto your openent's dragon, push him off, stab him repeatedly as he falls to his death...sounds satisfying to me. 

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#165 ragrdoll21
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[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

[QUOTE="l_The_DetoX_l"]No online? Wtf, That's what I was anticipating most. Now it's starting to get dissapointing.Verge_6

What Would you expect to do online with a Game like this?

Fly dragons against one another, try to leap onto your openent's dragon, push him off, stab him repeatedly as he falls to his death...sounds satisfying to me. 

So you're saying the single player will rock then....thx for your conformation!;) 
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#166 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

[QUOTE="l_The_DetoX_l"]No online? Wtf, That's what I was anticipating most. Now it's starting to get dissapointing.ragrdoll21

What Would you expect to do online with a Game like this?

Fly dragons against one another, try to leap onto your openent's dragon, push him off, stab him repeatedly as he falls to his death...sounds satisfying to me.

So you're saying the single player will rock then....thx for your conformation!;)

Who knows, it might. But it will be a radically short SP campaign, with no redeeming multiplayer. This does NOT bode well for the score. 

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#167 Dahaka-UK
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I beat shadow of the colossus in about 4 hours on my second run... I don't approve of games being short but that game in my opinion is superb and needs a sequal. So I guess 10-12 hours is good enough if it turns out to be a quality game.
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#168 Roy_Drage
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If games aren't worth buying because they are too short & have no online, then you people must be like all 10yrs old.     I remember buying games on nes, snes, ps1, ps2,  megadrive like, gt, mario, sonic, resident evil, tekken, soul edge, shinobi, strider to name a few.... And none of these games were online... Yet most of them were more fun than Gears, Halo 2 & those attrocious tom clancy games put together.  Hell, goldeneye on N-64 was better than Halo2, & it was 4 player split screen for multiplayer....lol.   

Stop over rating online lems, because it's all you have in your cannon to fire & even that is losing ground.     Plenty of PS3 owners just went out & bought GOW2 because it is a great game & they are true gamers...Yet this 9.7 (ign) scoring gem has no online, wow, neither does okami, ico, SOTC, ninja gaiden & a slew of other titles that were considered the best most innovative games of last gen.    

As long as the game is kept fresh & fun throughout, then I get my value for money.   Gears to me was fun for half the campaign, then was samely, boring & highly unoriginal...so I stopped playing it.   I didn't have my machine online, but didn't care for a half baked solo campaign game with online sewed on to save it's failings. 

Lair will rule, Factor Five always make kikass games.

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If games aren't worth buying because they are too short & have no online, then you people must be like all 10yrs old.     I remember buying games on nes, snes, ps1, ps2,  megadrive like, gt, mario, sonic, resident evil, tekken, soul edge, shinobi, strider to name a few.... And none of these games were online... Yet most of them were more fun than Gears, Halo 2 & those attrocious tom clancy games put together.  Hell, goldeneye on N-64 was better than Halo2, & it was 4 player split screen for multiplayer....lol.   

Stop over rating online lems, because it's all you have in your cannon to fire & even that is losing ground.     Plenty of PS3 owners just went out & bought GOW2 because it is a great game & they are true gamers...Yet this 9.7 (ign) scoring gem has no online, wow, neither does okami, ico, SOTC, ninja gaiden & a slew of other titles that were considered the best most innovative games of last gen.    

As long as the game is kept fresh & fun throughout, then I get my value for money.   Gears to me was fun for half the campaign, then was samely, boring & highly unoriginal...so I stopped playing it.   I didn't have my machine online, but didn't care for a half baked solo campaign game with online sewed on to save it's failings. 

Lair will rule, Factor Five always make kikass games.

Roy_Drage

 You know it's sad when my Intellivision provides a better gaming experience then a PS3. BTW, for what Sony is asking a 10 -12  hour game is a slap in the face...

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#170 Dreams-Visions
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I found this post interesting.  Can't really disagree with it, but what do you all think:

The main thing about the whole "We need Blu-Ray, DVD makes our games too short, because of storage limitations..." is what is really setting this off, to be perfectly honest.

The SDF'ers pointed to Gears of War's total game length and said "See? See? If they'd had a Blu-Ray Drive, they could've packed in so much more content! Made the game longer!"

But at the same time, now that we have the first BIG BIG PS3 game coming out (Lair) and it's just a couple hours longer than Gears of War, but is ON Blu-Ray, the SDF'ers are valiently (and in vain) trying to defend it by saying "Well, it's a great game! Look at all the other single player games that ONLY lasted 10-12 hours!"

Yet they conveniently forget that Gears of War is only a mere 2-3 hours in total Single Player length behind them.....while being on an "Inferior Media Format that holds only 1/5th the amount of storage.".

The SDF'ers also conveniently forget that unlike Gears of War, Lair doesn't have any apparent method of multi-player (co-op or multi-player player vs player or anything), yet, Gears of War has HUNDREDS OF HOURS worth of online play (in various forms).

So, how is it going to be, SDF'ers? Is the "superior media format" so much needed now? Looking at shots of Gears of War vs. Lair & I'm not seeing this "Vastly improved, MUST HAVE Blu-Ray to achieve all of this..." level of detail. I'm also not seeing the need of "must have Blu-Ray to achieve SO MUCH MORE GAME PLAY over DVD9." that your Blu-Ray Sony PR Bible Thumping was doing all this time, but now only appears to have a mere "couple of hours of SP legnth" over what DVD9 offers, but completely has scrapped any of the potential "Hundreds of Hours from Online/Multi-Player Modes".

So how is it, SDF'ers?
 

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#171 Tiefster
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I don't see the big deal here, 360's "best" game (Gears) is barely 10 hours long.  Just goes to show that no matter what you can't stop the blind hypocrites that are fanboys.
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#172 waynehead895
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I don't see the big deal here, 360's "best" game (Gears) is barely 10 hours long. Just goes to show that no matter what you can't stop the blind hypocrites that are fanboys.Tiefster
The reason why Lair is being bashed was because Gears was Bashed for the same exact thing. No Cow seems to understand this. They forget bashing Gears for only being 12 hours.
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I don't see the big deal here, 360's "best" game (Gears) is barely 10 hours long. Just goes to show that no matter what you can't stop the blind hypocrites that are fanboys.Tiefster

People keep bringing up Gears of War as if Gears of War doesn't have a rich multiplayer experience as well as co-op to supplement the SP...

and wasn't the space advantage of blu-ray supposed to lengthen games greatly?  I remember plenty of threads suggesting that Gears was the size it is because of lack of space on DVD-9.  Now we have a PREMIERE PS3 game with basically the same amount of SP gameplay time ON Blu-Ray...and without co-op or multiplayer to boot.

makes for interesting conversation, IMO.

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#174 waynehead895
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I wonder what the cows will have to say after so much bashing of Gears's length.-The-G-Man-
It seems that they don't remember saying this.
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#175 skbmassive
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[QUOTE="daswar"]10-12 hours of killing people with a dragon........Shooters have more depth than this!Huxley_00

 

and people bashed Gears of War for being 10-12 hours long! lol..

Gears of War has Online multiplayer which I personally spent at least 50 hours playing..

That is exactly what they were saying. Like makign a game longer is suppose to make it better. At least having online play guarantees you can play it for years.

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#176 ragrdoll21
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[QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

[QUOTE="l_The_DetoX_l"]No online? Wtf, That's what I was anticipating most. Now it's starting to get dissapointing.Verge_6

What Would you expect to do online with a Game like this?

Fly dragons against one another, try to leap onto your openent's dragon, push him off, stab him repeatedly as he falls to his death...sounds satisfying to me.

So you're saying the single player will rock then....thx for your conformation!;)

Who knows, it might. But it will be a radically short SP campaign, with no redeeming multiplayer. This does NOT bode well for the score. 

I couldn't care less about a score,just give me a fun game.I can always turn up the difficulty for added fun.
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#177 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

[QUOTE="l_The_DetoX_l"]No online? Wtf, That's what I was anticipating most. Now it's starting to get dissapointing.ragrdoll21

What Would you expect to do online with a Game like this?

Fly dragons against one another, try to leap onto your openent's dragon, push him off, stab him repeatedly as he falls to his death...sounds satisfying to me.

So you're saying the single player will rock then....thx for your conformation!;)

Who knows, it might. But it will be a radically short SP campaign, with no redeeming multiplayer. This does NOT bode well for the score.

I couldn't care less about a score,just give me a fun game.I can always turn up the difficulty for added fun.

hopefully.  it'll really need to deliver on the replayability.  I rarely play to beat games more than once.  as such, this game is on a very short leach. 

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I found this post interesting. Can't really disagree with it, but what do you all think:

[QUOTE=""]The main thing about the whole "We need Blu-Ray, DVD makes our games too short, because of storage limitations..." is what is really setting this off, to be perfectly honest.

The SDF'ers pointed to Gears of War's total game length and said "See? See? If they'd had a Blu-Ray Drive, they could've packed in so much more content! Made the game longer!"

But at the same time, now that we have the first BIG BIG PS3 game coming out (Lair) and it's just a couple hours longer than Gears of War, but is ON Blu-Ray, the SDF'ers are valiently (and in vain) trying to defend it by saying "Well, it's a great game! Look at all the other single player games that ONLY lasted 10-12 hours!"

Yet they conveniently forget that Gears of War is only a mere 2-3 hours in total Single Player length behind them.....while being on an "Inferior Media Format that holds only 1/5th the amount of storage.".

The SDF'ers also conveniently forget that unlike Gears of War, Lair doesn't have any apparent method of multi-player (co-op or multi-player player vs player or anything), yet, Gears of War has HUNDREDS OF HOURS worth of online play (in various forms).

So, how is it going to be, SDF'ers? Is the "superior media format" so much needed now? Looking at shots of Gears of War vs. Lair & I'm not seeing this "Vastly improved, MUST HAVE Blu-Ray to achieve all of this..." level of detail. I'm also not seeing the need of "must have Blu-Ray to achieve SO MUCH MORE GAME PLAY over DVD9." that your Blu-Ray Sony PR Bible Thumping was doing all this time, but now only appears to have a mere "couple of hours of SP legnth" over what DVD9 offers, but completely has scrapped any of the potential "Hundreds of Hours from Online/Multi-Player Modes".

So how is it, SDF'ers?Dreams-Visions

 

exactly!

Gears was bashed to no end! 

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#179 Truth-slayer
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Wow..... No online and 10-12 hours of gameplay = no AAA. Scratch this off of the GOTY possiblities. At best this will get AA.Firelore29

God of War 1 and 2 were no more than 12 hours long and no online and both got AAA.  A great singleplayer experiance can earn a game an AAA.

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#180 Ibacai
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[QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

[QUOTE="l_The_DetoX_l"]No online? Wtf, That's what I was anticipating most. Now it's starting to get dissapointing.Dreams-Visions

What Would you expect to do online with a Game like this?

Fly dragons against one another, try to leap onto your openent's dragon, push him off, stab him repeatedly as he falls to his death...sounds satisfying to me.

So you're saying the single player will rock then....thx for your conformation!;)

Who knows, it might. But it will be a radically short SP campaign, with no redeeming multiplayer. This does NOT bode well for the score.

I couldn't care less about a score,just give me a fun game.I can always turn up the difficulty for added fun.

hopefully. it'll really need to deliver on the replayability. I rarely play to beat games more than once. as such, this game is on a very short leach.

I think the replay value will probably be decent for me because of all the medals that we'll be able to unlock. I spent countless hours on Rogue Squadron 2 for just that reason. Great game (Expectation, not fact) + Unlockable Medals + difficulty levels = Replay value for me.
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yeah i guess its short if you have no lives. but poeple who dont get a chance to play every hour on the hour might enjoy it. and dont say it has no replay as if you have beaten the game already. and how do you all know it wont have harder difficulties to make the game last a few hours longer
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#182 Verge_6
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I don't see the big deal here, 360's "best" game (Gears) is barely 10 hours long. Just goes to show that no matter what you can't stop the blind hypocrites that are fanboys.Tiefster
Gears of War had a great multiplayer mode. Lair does not. Lair also does not have curbstompings or chainsaw-guns. (:P)
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#183 river_rat3117
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[QUOTE="Tiefster"]I don't see the big deal here, 360's "best" game (Gears) is barely 10 hours long. Just goes to show that no matter what you can't stop the blind hypocrites that are fanboys.Verge_6
Gears of War had a great multiplayer mode. Lair does not. Lair also does not have curbstompings or chainsaw-guns. (:P)

yeah and i bet it doesnt have you hiding behind a wall for the whole game, and then have you try to aim a gun with no cross hairs
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If games aren't worth buying because their graphics are not as good , then you people must be like all 10yrs old.     I remember buying games on nes, snes, ps1, ps2,  megadrive like, gt, mario, sonic, resident evil, tekken, soul edge, shinobi, strider to name a few.... And none of these games had the graphics games do nowadays... Yet most of them were more fun than Gears, Halo 2 & those attrocious tom clancy games put together.  Hell, goldeneye on N-64 was better than Halo2, & it was 4 player split screen for multiplayer....lol.   

Stop over rating online lems, because it's all you have in your cannon to fire & even that is losing ground.     Plenty of PS3 owners just went out & bought GOW2 because it is a great game & they are true gamers...Yet this 9.7 (ign) scoring gem has no online, wow, neither does okami, ico, SOTC, ninja gaiden & a slew of other titles that were considered the best most innovative games of last gen.    

As long as the game is kept fresh & fun throughout, then I get my value for money.   Gears to me was fun for half the campaign, then was samely, boring & highly unoriginal...so I stopped playing it.   I didn't have my machine online, but didn't care for a half baked solo campaign game with online sewed on to save it's failings. 

Lair will rule, Factor Five always make kikass games.

Roy_Drage

they are too short & have no online = their graphics are not as good
were online = had the graphics games do nowadays
I hope from the first paragraph you guys get where this post is going. If Nintendo fans get bashed over graphics not being up to par with the most technically advanced games out, then why should a game not get bashed because it has no online and its not up to par length wise (things which I believe are infinitely ore important than graphics). 
I agree if it's fun its fun, but the same people that would make the argument this guy I quoted made are the same people that turn around and bash the Wii for subpar graphics.....hypocrites. 
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#185 -KinGz-
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ouch.. for a game with no multiplayer and not much replay value..

 

http://www.g4tv.com/

listen to the 2:40 mark

Is it really worth 60 bucks?

 

I'll rent it, beat it, and return it..

Huxley_00

 

And they bash gears of war for being short, anyways I've been playing gears of war like crazy on mp, it still hasn't grown old for me. 

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#186 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

[QUOTE="l_The_DetoX_l"]No online? Wtf, That's what I was anticipating most. Now it's starting to get dissapointing.Ibacai

What Would you expect to do online with a Game like this?

Fly dragons against one another, try to leap onto your openent's dragon, push him off, stab him repeatedly as he falls to his death...sounds satisfying to me.

So you're saying the single player will rock then....thx for your conformation!;)

Who knows, it might. But it will be a radically short SP campaign, with no redeeming multiplayer. This does NOT bode well for the score.

I couldn't care less about a score,just give me a fun game.I can always turn up the difficulty for added fun.

hopefully. it'll really need to deliver on the replayability. I rarely play to beat games more than once. as such, this game is on a very short leach.

I think the replay value will probably be decent for me because of all the medals that we'll be able to unlock. I spent countless hours on Rogue Squadron 2 for just that reason. Great game (Expectation, not fact) + Unlockable Medals + difficulty levels = Replay value for me.

I'll hope so too.  if not, I'll only rent. 

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#187 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

I found this post interesting. Can't really disagree with it, but what do you all think:

[QUOTE=""]The main thing about the whole "We need Blu-Ray, DVD makes our games too short, because of storage limitations..." is what is really setting this off, to be perfectly honest.

The SDF'ers pointed to Gears of War's total game length and said "See? See? If they'd had a Blu-Ray Drive, they could've packed in so much more content! Made the game longer!"

But at the same time, now that we have the first BIG BIG PS3 game coming out (Lair) and it's just a couple hours longer than Gears of War, but is ON Blu-Ray, the SDF'ers are valiently (and in vain) trying to defend it by saying "Well, it's a great game! Look at all the other single player games that ONLY lasted 10-12 hours!"

Yet they conveniently forget that Gears of War is only a mere 2-3 hours in total Single Player length behind them.....while being on an "Inferior Media Format that holds only 1/5th the amount of storage.".

The SDF'ers also conveniently forget that unlike Gears of War, Lair doesn't have any apparent method of multi-player (co-op or multi-player player vs player or anything), yet, Gears of War has HUNDREDS OF HOURS worth of online play (in various forms).

So, how is it going to be, SDF'ers? Is the "superior media format" so much needed now? Looking at shots of Gears of War vs. Lair & I'm not seeing this "Vastly improved, MUST HAVE Blu-Ray to achieve all of this..." level of detail. I'm also not seeing the need of "must have Blu-Ray to achieve SO MUCH MORE GAME PLAY over DVD9." that your Blu-Ray Sony PR Bible Thumping was doing all this time, but now only appears to have a mere "couple of hours of SP legnth" over what DVD9 offers, but completely has scrapped any of the potential "Hundreds of Hours from Online/Multi-Player Modes".

So how is it, SDF'ers?Huxley_00

 

exactly!

Gears was bashed to no end!

glad someone else read that.  I thought it was really insightful. 

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Isn't Gears like 6 hours long?? My friend said he beat it in one day(after school) his first time through.
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[QUOTE="Huxley_00"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

I found this post interesting. Can't really disagree with it, but what do you all think:

[QUOTE=""]The main thing about the whole "We need Blu-Ray, DVD makes our games too short, because of storage limitations..." is what is really setting this off, to be perfectly honest.

The SDF'ers pointed to Gears of War's total game length and said "See? See? If they'd had a Blu-Ray Drive, they could've packed in so much more content! Made the game longer!"

But at the same time, now that we have the first BIG BIG PS3 game coming out (Lair) and it's just a couple hours longer than Gears of War, but is ON Blu-Ray, the SDF'ers are valiently (and in vain) trying to defend it by saying "Well, it's a great game! Look at all the other single player games that ONLY lasted 10-12 hours!"

Yet they conveniently forget that Gears of War is only a mere 2-3 hours in total Single Player length behind them.....while being on an "Inferior Media Format that holds only 1/5th the amount of storage.".

The SDF'ers also conveniently forget that unlike Gears of War, Lair doesn't have any apparent method of multi-player (co-op or multi-player player vs player or anything), yet, Gears of War has HUNDREDS OF HOURS worth of online play (in various forms).

So, how is it going to be, SDF'ers? Is the "superior media format" so much needed now? Looking at shots of Gears of War vs. Lair & I'm not seeing this "Vastly improved, MUST HAVE Blu-Ray to achieve all of this..." level of detail. I'm also not seeing the need of "must have Blu-Ray to achieve SO MUCH MORE GAME PLAY over DVD9." that your Blu-Ray Sony PR Bible Thumping was doing all this time, but now only appears to have a mere "couple of hours of SP legnth" over what DVD9 offers, but completely has scrapped any of the potential "Hundreds of Hours from Online/Multi-Player Modes".

So how is it, SDF'ers?Dreams-Visions

 

exactly!

Gears was bashed to no end!

glad someone else read that.  I thought it was really insightful. 

ok but still, no one knows for sure how much space this game will take up on a disc, sure the game might be short but the levels are massive.
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#190 rappid_rabbit
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Here is the problem:

1. Cows bashed Gears for being short
2. Cows said DVD9 is the reason why Gears was short, therefore  Blu-Ray is def need for games

Now with  this new information it seems

1. Lair is also deemed "short"...so there goes the DVD9 bashing
2. No multiplayer

Lemms are just getting back at Cows for bashing Gears length. Lemms fired back with "Well we gots teh multiplayer"...I dont know what Cows will counter punch with yet.

Can Lair still be AAA without MP...OF COURSE!!!

But Lair would have been so much more fun with it...I however did not have high hopes for this game since day one...it just didnt "WoW" me. 

It could still end up being a really good game though. 

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#191 scott_robertson
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These "sky is falling" threads are fan-tas-tic. Throw the kids a rumor and they run with it, by golly do they run!

Factor 5 isn't going to deliver a 10 hour game that you just finish once and throw away. Have fun speculating, hopefully people will save all of your laughable quotes and post them when it comes out that they don't have an ounce of truth to them. 

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Huxley_00"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

I found this post interesting. Can't really disagree with it, but what do you all think:

[QUOTE=""]The main thing about the whole "We need Blu-Ray, DVD makes our games too short, because of storage limitations..." is what is really setting this off, to be perfectly honest.

The SDF'ers pointed to Gears of War's total game length and said "See? See? If they'd had a Blu-Ray Drive, they could've packed in so much more content! Made the game longer!"

But at the same time, now that we have the first BIG BIG PS3 game coming out (Lair) and it's just a couple hours longer than Gears of War, but is ON Blu-Ray, the SDF'ers are valiently (and in vain) trying to defend it by saying "Well, it's a great game! Look at all the other single player games that ONLY lasted 10-12 hours!"

Yet they conveniently forget that Gears of War is only a mere 2-3 hours in total Single Player length behind them.....while being on an "Inferior Media Format that holds only 1/5th the amount of storage.".

The SDF'ers also conveniently forget that unlike Gears of War, Lair doesn't have any apparent method of multi-player (co-op or multi-player player vs player or anything), yet, Gears of War has HUNDREDS OF HOURS worth of online play (in various forms).

So, how is it going to be, SDF'ers? Is the "superior media format" so much needed now? Looking at shots of Gears of War vs. Lair & I'm not seeing this "Vastly improved, MUST HAVE Blu-Ray to achieve all of this..." level of detail. I'm also not seeing the need of "must have Blu-Ray to achieve SO MUCH MORE GAME PLAY over DVD9." that your Blu-Ray Sony PR Bible Thumping was doing all this time, but now only appears to have a mere "couple of hours of SP legnth" over what DVD9 offers, but completely has scrapped any of the potential "Hundreds of Hours from Online/Multi-Player Modes".

So how is it, SDF'ers?river_rat3117

 

exactly!

Gears was bashed to no end!

glad someone else read that.  I thought it was really insightful. 

ok but still, no one knows for sure how much space this game will take up on a disc, sure the game might be short but the levels are massive.

 Who cares how big the levels are if the game is short?

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....Lost Planet, Crackdown, and Gears of War have about as much or less gameplay time.

Whats the big deal?

 

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I found this post interesting. Can't really disagree with it, but what do you all think:

[QUOTE=""]The main thing about the whole "We need Blu-Ray, DVD makes our games too short, because of storage limitations..." is what is really setting this off, to be perfectly honest.

The SDF'ers pointed to Gears of War's total game length and said "See? See? If they'd had a Blu-Ray Drive, they could've packed in so much more content! Made the game longer!"

But at the same time, now that we have the first BIG BIG PS3 game coming out (Lair) and it's just a couple hours longer than Gears of War, but is ON Blu-Ray, the SDF'ers are valiently (and in vain) trying to defend it by saying "Well, it's a great game! Look at all the other single player games that ONLY lasted 10-12 hours!"

Yet they conveniently forget that Gears of War is only a mere 2-3 hours in total Single Player length behind them.....while being on an "Inferior Media Format that holds only 1/5th the amount of storage.".

The SDF'ers also conveniently forget that unlike Gears of War, Lair doesn't have any apparent method of multi-player (co-op or multi-player player vs player or anything), yet, Gears of War has HUNDREDS OF HOURS worth of online play (in various forms).

So, how is it going to be, SDF'ers? Is the "superior media format" so much needed now? Looking at shots of Gears of War vs. Lair & I'm not seeing this "Vastly improved, MUST HAVE Blu-Ray to achieve all of this..." level of detail. I'm also not seeing the need of "must have Blu-Ray to achieve SO MUCH MORE GAME PLAY over DVD9." that your Blu-Ray Sony PR Bible Thumping was doing all this time, but now only appears to have a mere "couple of hours of SP legnth" over what DVD9 offers, but completely has scrapped any of the potential "Hundreds of Hours from Online/Multi-Player Modes".

So how is it, SDF'ers?Dreams-Visions

Post of the Thread. Who wrote this BTW? 

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....Lost Planet, Crackdown, and Gears of War have about as much or less gameplay time.

Whats the big deal?

 

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#196 Solid-CELL
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i beat God of War in a week which is probably shorter than Lair

im sorry, but i missed the "pwnage". :roll:

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

I found this post interesting. Can't really disagree with it, but what do you all think:

[QUOTE=""]The main thing about the whole "We need Blu-Ray, DVD makes our games too short, because of storage limitations..." is what is really setting this off, to be perfectly honest.

The SDF'ers pointed to Gears of War's total game length and said "See? See? If they'd had a Blu-Ray Drive, they could've packed in so much more content! Made the game longer!"

But at the same time, now that we have the first BIG BIG PS3 game coming out (Lair) and it's just a couple hours longer than Gears of War, but is ON Blu-Ray, the SDF'ers are valiently (and in vain) trying to defend it by saying "Well, it's a great game! Look at all the other single player games that ONLY lasted 10-12 hours!"

Yet they conveniently forget that Gears of War is only a mere 2-3 hours in total Single Player length behind them.....while being on an "Inferior Media Format that holds only 1/5th the amount of storage.".

The SDF'ers also conveniently forget that unlike Gears of War, Lair doesn't have any apparent method of multi-player (co-op or multi-player player vs player or anything), yet, Gears of War has HUNDREDS OF HOURS worth of online play (in various forms).

So, how is it going to be, SDF'ers? Is the "superior media format" so much needed now? Looking at shots of Gears of War vs. Lair & I'm not seeing this "Vastly improved, MUST HAVE Blu-Ray to achieve all of this..." level of detail. I'm also not seeing the need of "must have Blu-Ray to achieve SO MUCH MORE GAME PLAY over DVD9." that your Blu-Ray Sony PR Bible Thumping was doing all this time, but now only appears to have a mere "couple of hours of SP legnth" over what DVD9 offers, but completely has scrapped any of the potential "Hundreds of Hours from Online/Multi-Player Modes".

So how is it, SDF'ers?waynehead895

 

Post of the Thread. Who wrote this BTW?

 

yea.. really was a nice writeup..

good read 

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#198 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Tiefster"]I don't see the big deal here, 360's "best" game (Gears) is barely 10 hours long. Just goes to show that no matter what you can't stop the blind hypocrites that are fanboys.river_rat3117
Gears of War had a great multiplayer mode. Lair does not. Lair also does not have curbstompings or chainsaw-guns. (:P)

yeah and i bet it doesnt have you hiding behind a wall for the whole game, and then have you try to aim a gun with no cross hairs

Only thing regarding Gears of War you have ever seen were gameplay vids, huh? Try playing the game. it's fun.
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#199 istreakforfood
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These "sky is falling" threads are fan-tas-tic. Throw the kids a rumor and they run with it, by golly do they run!

Factor 5 isn't going to deliver a 10 hour game that you just finish once and throw away. Have fun speculating, hopefully people will save all of your laughable quotes and post them when it comes out that they don't have an ounce of truth to them.

scott_robertson

 

can i quote u on this? ....................................................kidding :D