Lets get something clear about RESIDENT EVIL 4/5 (please read)

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#1 Eyezonmii
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1. It's a SURIVAL HORROR game.(atmosphere, enemies, makes its a HORROR game, Leon has to survive it=Surival horror, don't think so?, play it on pro)

2. It's a SEQUAL

3. It has its UNIQUE own differences to RE4.

4. Animations have been tweaked and IMPROVED.

5. RE4 pretty much revolutionized the series (hell, the 3rd person shooting genre, and its only been used for 1 game)

That being said, i'm guessing the many that have critisized it, on this forum are the ones who haven't played the demo yet, and are going by videos, well VIDEO footage doesn't do it justice (expecially since capcom are showing the same stuff and don't want to spoil the many other differences RE5 has), the feeling of the game, when played feels different to RE4, thanks to the new controls and strafing system. Yes, it looks similar to RE4, but gsus..its a sequal, and ONLY i repeat ONLY 1 game before it used the system. RE1 2 3 code veronica..thats 4 games, rehashed the same system..and i quote Mikami-Sun that RE6 will need to reinvent the series again, so it makes sense for RE5 to stick to what made RE4 so DAM GOOD. ITS POPULAR, so capcom stuck with it. I guess with the many of you that have played gears of war and other shooters, RE4 inspired...suddenly RE5 looks stale, well hate to break it to you, but RE5 isn't an pure and FULL blown war action title. It needs to keep the tension and atmosphere.

Now about the differences i mentioned.

RE5, if you have played the demo, will notice the tweaked ANIMATIONS, that react according to the enviroments, punch one infront of a door or destructable object and BAM they break through it (very satisfying)...shoot one with, it will react to a wall and fall accordingly. Its much more aware of the surroundings, while some are the similar, some are different, depening where you shoot them. Keep in mind RE4 had some great animatiions, hell better than some of ones seen this gen. So using them makes sense, they WORK.

Now another thing, DESTRUCTABLITY ..this game supports much more, from smashing building walls to many other objects (market stands, etc) You can experience this with the axe weilding freak.

Next up is, BUDDY SYSTEM now this is something completly unique to RE5, you have a female partner (sheva, DUH) that is your buddy A.I or human (co-op) that helps you out through the mission, shes VERY good, adding to the survival, NEEDING to watch here health and equipment, helping her out if low, working as a team to surive, cause if she dies YOU die, its much harder and gives the game a new feeling of survival, you also communicate short dialog with the B button (360 version) guessing the O button is for the PS3, OR use the invetory with the Y button(PS3 triangle) to check EACH others ITEMS to share and ask for if low, etc. during these transactions there are dialog to thank them, ask them for a certain weapon etc, its very cool.....another thing is TEAM COMBO's...you can pull of MORE melees if you do it as a team, say big boy chris punches one of those ugly SOB's in the face and he steps back, sheva can then do here own kick, back to chris and chris can pull of a super (back hand slap, or kick) Sheva even has a harracurana, etc. ALSO, this game has more MELEE attacks, compared to RE4, for each character (depending on the position, say chris goes behind a guy, he can neck snap, in front punch, kneeled down oponents get an uppercut) and so on....and finally, you can interact with your partner to reach places or about to open a certain MAJOR doors...(example, if one is ready to open the next door, and the other isn't...you wait untill the other person applys with a button hit) very cool and gives a new perspective of team work...and IMO, this buddy/talk system is pretty revolutionary, at just how it works.

all that is what sets it apart and gives it a fresh and satifying feeling.

Next up, CONTROLS The game feels much different moving and shooting, due to the new controls of being able to strafe with the left analog sick, rather then spin around...turning your character around is needed with the right stick, Left trigger to aim, and right to shoot....similar to gears of war, and it feels much better, IMO due to the freedom, it does take time to adjust, if you can't you can move to the classic RE4 controls with control type D, in the opions...using the right trigger to aim and X to shoot...still the strafe is there so it isn't the exact same.

now, some small things....using a spray, you can now physically see chris heel himself by spraying it on himself or his partner...while nothing major, its a nice realistic addition, chris and sheva can now be seen grabbing or using things physically, unlike RE4, when flipping a switch..leon has NO animation, etc...explosions are MUCH bigger and leave huge fire trails, with dust effects, etc. Chris can have blood stains on him (while limited and does dissapear its a nice realistc addition).

Thats it, while long and can be taken as a mini preview....it gets my point across, really tired of the RE4 in HD. Because its more than that..and even if its similar it SHOULD be, its a sequal.

Look at HALO 3, its Halo 1 in HD....a 2001 game. (gameplay wise...run shoot, melee, grenade throw....) see what i did there?

srsly this needs to end.

Keep in mind this is all from the demo, RE5's final form should be much more appealing and different, since we have barely seen much of the game, besides the same stuff....capcom have assured us through countless interviews..so wait and see.

THANK YOU!

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#2 Animal-Mother
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NO THANK YOU, Honestly it's about time we get a thread to put it too the haters
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#3 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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What most people refer to "Survival Horror" is an Action/Adventure game with a far bigger emphasis on the Adventure part (puzzles, exploration, etc), resembling to a traditional adventure game with some shooting.

What RE4/5 are doing is exactly the opposite, an Action/Adventure game with a far bigger emphasis on the Action part, resembling more to a TPS than an adventure game.

Under those circumstances, I doubt it can be called Survival Horror. More like Action Horror, to me.

Or maybe "modern survival horror"? Genres evolve with the time, andy maybe it is time to accept that the Survival Horror genre has done it. Look at Dead Space. It follows a very similar formula. Yup, I like how "Modern Survival Horror" sounds.

I agree with everything else.

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I honestly take the RE 4 perspective any day over the old fixed camera, clunky controlled RE games.

Sure, its more action oriented, but come on - do you really want to play a game that has a fixed no. of saves, limited ammo and limited inventory space? Especially in this Generation? Seems to be pretty monotonous. And the action oriented theme just goes to show you that you're fighting yourself through a nightmare, using whatever weapons you can get.

Personally speaking, I'm happy Capcom is heading this direction. RE 4 brought in some mandatory improvements, while RE 5 improves on them and adds new things to the RE world.

I agree with TC - people should stop hating on RE 5 formula.

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Compared to Dead Space, and even Silent Hill Homecoming, Resident Evil 4/5 is as much as survival horror as Thief being an FPS. You say Leon has to survive, but survive what? I must have played a different game because there sure as hell wasn't any horror in the game. The series has become an action title now. Just because it has atmosphere and enemies doesn't automatically make it a survival-horror. If that's the case then 75% of all games are survival horrors. Get real. Resident Evil 4 didn't have the unsettling atmosphere the previous ones did, and ammo wasn't scarce like the previous ones. Those 2 factors are what help make a survival horror, and since that Leon was basically a walking tank in RE4, I fail to see how you can be frightened by anything. The game had no tension. Resident Evil 5 frankly looks disappointing as a sequal because it only seems to make minimal improvements to a game that was made 4 years ago.
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#6 Animal-Mother
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I honestly take the RE 4 perspective any day over the old fixed camera, clunky controlled RE games.

Sure, its more action oriented, but come on - do you really want to play a game that has a fixed no. of saves, limited ammo and limited inventory space? Especially in this Generation? Seems to be pretty monotonous. And the action oriented theme just goes to show you that you're fighting yourself through a nightmare, using whatever weapons you can get.

Personally speaking, I'm happy Capcom is heading this direction. RE 4 brought in some mandatory improvements, while RE 5 improves on them and adds new things to the RE world.

I agree with TC - people should stop hating on RE 5 formula.

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[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]Compared to Dead Space, and even Silent Hill Homecoming, Resident Evil 4/5 is as much as survival horror as Thief being an FPS. You say Leon has to survive, but survive what? I must have played a different game because there sure as hell wasn't any horror in the game. The series has become an action title now. Just because it has atmosphere and enemies doesn't automatically make it a survival-horror. If that's the case then 75% of all games are survival horrors. Get real. Resident Evil 4 didn't have the unsettling atmosphere the previous ones did, and ammo wasn't scarce like the previous ones. Those 2 factors are what help make a survival horror, and since that Leon was basically a walking tank in RE4, I fail to see how you can be frightened by anything. The game had no tension. Resident Evil 5 frankly looks disappointing as a sequal because it only seems to make minimal improvements to a game that was made 4 years ago.

Ok question it took two years for gears 2 to come out, I know its a shorter gap then re4-5 but what BIG improvements did gears 2 make?
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="mo0ksi"]Compared to Dead Space, and even Silent Hill Homecoming, Resident Evil 4/5 is as much as survival horror as Thief being an FPS. You say Leon has to survive, but survive what? I must have played a different game because there sure as hell wasn't any horror in the game. The series has become an action title now. Just because it has atmosphere and enemies doesn't automatically make it a survival-horror. If that's the case then 75% of all games are survival horrors. Get real. Resident Evil 4 didn't have the unsettling atmosphere the previous ones did, and ammo wasn't scarce like the previous ones. Those 2 factors are what help make a survival horror, and since that Leon was basically a walking tank in RE4, I fail to see how you can be frightened by anything. The game had no tension. Resident Evil 5 frankly looks disappointing as a sequal because it only seems to make minimal improvements to a game that was made 4 years ago.

Ok question it took two years for gears 2 to come out, I know its a shorter gap then re4-5 but what BIG improvements did gears 2 make?

I haven't played Gears 2 so I really don't know.
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Resident Evil 5 will be awesome no doubt, why? 4 was awesome and 5 will be everything 4 was plus more. The only reason it's getting some hate now is because it's just about to release and haters need something to do.
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If what you are saying is that RE5 will be an amazing game and it's not a Resident Evil 4.5 I agree.
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Compared to Dead Space, and even Silent Hill Homecoming, Resident Evil 4/5 is as much as survival horror as Thief being an FPS. mo0ksi
Dead Space is extremely similar to RE4. If you call it SH, the logical step is calling RE4 also Survival Horror.
Those 2 factors are what help make a survival horror, and since that Leon was basically a walking tank in RE4, I fail to see how you can be frightened by anything. mo0ksi
That's something I'll never get, what exactly was so "scary" about the old REs? The were tense, sure, but scary? Frightening? No way.
Resident Evil 5 frankly looks disappointing as a sequel because it only seems to make minimal improvements to a game that was made 4 years ago.mo0ksi
That's why it is called "sequel", same core gameplay with the needed improvements. Just like Gears 2 or God of War 2.
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RE4 & 5 are both just examples of how developers dumb down genres into shooters to cater for the casual trigger happy gamer crowd. Survival Horror is a dead genre now. Died long ago. Every game genre that was once unique will soon turn into a generic shooter some way along the line. Oh and capcom delayed the RE5 so they could add Gears of War type controls into the game. Still don't think it's a third person shooter?
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RE5 will be better than 4 :P i hope :D nice job with the tread btw

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[QUOTE="mo0ksi"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="mo0ksi"]Compared to Dead Space, and even Silent Hill Homecoming, Resident Evil 4/5 is as much as survival horror as Thief being an FPS. You say Leon has to survive, but survive what? I must have played a different game because there sure as hell wasn't any horror in the game. The series has become an action title now. Just because it has atmosphere and enemies doesn't automatically make it a survival-horror. If that's the case then 75% of all games are survival horrors. Get real. Resident Evil 4 didn't have the unsettling atmosphere the previous ones did, and ammo wasn't scarce like the previous ones. Those 2 factors are what help make a survival horror, and since that Leon was basically a walking tank in RE4, I fail to see how you can be frightened by anything. The game had no tension. Resident Evil 5 frankly looks disappointing as a sequal because it only seems to make minimal improvements to a game that was made 4 years ago.

Ok question it took two years for gears 2 to come out, I know its a shorter gap then re4-5 but what BIG improvements did gears 2 make?

I haven't played Gears 2 so I really don't know.

Ok but you still have to realize it's an award winning formula, why fix it if it's not broken
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I played the demo, and while it has improved upon RE4, its not really all that different. But I did enjoy my time with the demo, and co-op made it much better, IMO.
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RE4 & 5 are both just examples of how developers dumb down genres into shooters to cater for the casual trigger happy gamer crowd. Survival Horror is a dead genre now. Died long ago. Every game genre that was once unique will soon turn into a generic shooter some way along the line.FloWeN-UK
Just asking, why the series becoming more a shooter is necessary being a "dumb down" or a casualization?
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Dont lie. It's jsut Gears of War without strafing.
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Dont lie. It's jsut Gears of War without strafing.RABicle
No you Mean gears of war is resident evil 4 WITH strafing
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Oh and btw RE4, especially 5 don't seem so scary to me...dead space seems more scary imho, also stalker shadow of chernobyl had some scary scenes once in a while, for example when you first go underground and that invisible monster start to roar and atack you from nowhere, combined with at 5.1 system and 10 o clock at night...that can be scary :P
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[QUOTE="FloWeN-UK"]RE4 & 5 are both just examples of how developers dumb down genres into shooters to cater for the casual trigger happy gamer crowd. Survival Horror is a dead genre now. Died long ago. Every game genre that was once unique will soon turn into a generic shooter some way along the line.IronBass
Just asking, why the series becoming more a shooter is necessary being a "dumb down" or a casualization?

Don't mind him, he's just blinded by his nostalgia for archaic game design. :P
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="FloWeN-UK"]RE4 & 5 are both just examples of how developers dumb down genres into shooters to cater for the casual trigger happy gamer crowd. Survival Horror is a dead genre now. Died long ago. Every game genre that was once unique will soon turn into a generic shooter some way along the line.Aljosa23
Just asking, why the series becoming more a shooter is necessary being a "dumb down" or a casualization?

Don't mind him, he's just blinded by his nostalgia for archaic game design. :P

Sorry, I forgot that if we don't like an abysmal camera angle, plus poor controls and boring combat system we are automatically the casualz.
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"][QUOTE="IronBass"] Just asking, why the series becoming more a shooter is necessary being a "dumb down" or a casualization? IronBass
Don't mind him, he's just blinded by his nostalgia for archaic game design. :P

Sorry, I forgot that if we don't like an abysmal camera angle, plus poor controls and boring combat system we are automatically the casualz.

Shame on you! :shock:

We are such casuals dude, I'm ashamed of myself. :(

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Youre pretty clueless when it comes to the Resident Evil series. Yeah, RE5 will be awesome but please refrain from talking about anything pre RE4. Oh and your Halo reference is laughable.
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I can't believe that I read the whole the whole thing.
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Shame on you! :shock:

We are such casuals dude, I'm ashamed of myself. :(

Aljosa23
Not yet. Wait until we ruin gaming. Then we can be ashamed.
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Youre pretty clueless when it comes to the Resident Evil series. Yeah, RE5 will be awesome but please refrain from talking about anything pre RE4. Oh and your Halo reference is laughable.-DrRobotnik-

So why don't you give us a lesson?:D

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[QUOTE="RABicle"]Dont lie. It's jsut Gears of War without strafing.Animal-Mother
No you Mean gears of war is resident evil 4 WITH strafing

Yeah, i know what came out first.
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[QUOTE="FloWeN-UK"]RE4 & 5 are both just examples of how developers dumb down genres into shooters to cater for the casual trigger happy gamer crowd. Survival Horror is a dead genre now. Died long ago. Every game genre that was once unique will soon turn into a generic shooter some way along the line.IronBass
Just asking, why the series becoming more a shooter is necessary being a "dumb down" or a casualization?

Yeah.. There are so many Shooters right now.. Leading me to believe shooters are simple and easy to develop and have hardly any depth. They are a good copy an paste genre for developers to make for some easy cash. They're no longer unique.
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

Shame on you! :shock:

We are such casuals dude, I'm ashamed of myself. :(

IronBass

Not yet. Wait until we ruin gaming. Then we can be ashamed.

I thought we already ruined gaming, what with great "hardcore" franchises like RE being ruined. :?

:lol:

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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Don't mind him, he's just blinded by his nostalgia for archaic game design. :PAljosa23

Sorry, I forgot that if we don't like an abysmal camera angle, plus poor controls and boring combat system we are automatically the casualz.

Shame on you! :shock:

We are such casuals dude, I'm ashamed of myself. :(

Actually it has next to nothing to do with the camera angles or controls. I think many would accept that RE series has evolved amazingly in that respect. But more to do with the now completely linear levels with no real sense of exploration, the lack of lore seen in previous installments in the series, the lack of stimulating puzzles and the increase in weapons, ammo, health and save points that make the game much easier and less about actually having to 'survive.' Yeah, casualisation may not be the correct word although things do point in that direction = lack of lore is because people couldnt be bothered to stop and read these days. I still love the RE games, but you cant blame fans like me feeling disgruntled when some of the best aspects of the previous games are disappearing.
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="FloWeN-UK"]RE4 & 5 are both just examples of how developers dumb down genres into shooters to cater for the casual trigger happy gamer crowd. Survival Horror is a dead genre now. Died long ago. Every game genre that was once unique will soon turn into a generic shooter some way along the line.FloWeN-UK
Just asking, why the series becoming more a shooter is necessary being a "dumb down" or a casualization?

Yeah.. There are so many Shooters right now.. Leading me to believe shooters are simple and easy to develop and have hardly any depth. There a good copy an paste genre for developers to make for some easy cash. They're no longer unique.

The aiming system of RE4 (which you could choose which member of the enemy's body you wanted to shoot) is considered extremely deep and innovative (shoot the leg and he slow down, shoot the arm and he throw his weapon, shoot the head and he's left immobile for an extra attack) . Such things added an extra tactical element to the game (element needed when you are fighting almost-unending hordes of enemies). I wouldn't underestimate RE4/RE5 just for being shooters. Done right, shooters can be extremely deep, unique, and, more important, fun.
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ill get RE5 360 the day it comes out and I

will buy RE5 Wii edition when it comes out

but its not a mikami shinji game.. so its just a generic capcom game for me (which equals to still awesome but not mikami awesome)

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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

Shame on you! :shock:

We are such casuals dude, I'm ashamed of myself. :(

Aljosa23

Not yet. Wait until we ruin gaming. Then we can be ashamed.

I thought we already ruined gaming, what with great "hardcore" franchises like RE being ruined. :?

:lol:

And Bioshock! Don't forget Bioshock! Just a casualization of System Shock! Man, two series ruined, you're right, we should be ashamed :(

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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ill get RE5 360 the day it comes out and I

will buy RE5 Wii edition when it comes out

but its not a mikami shinji game.. so its just a generic capcom game for me (which equals to still awesome but not mikami awesome)

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Valid point. The absence of Shinji Mikami on the project has been my only concern about this game. Let's hope the example of RE4 is enough (the dude of GoW II did an awesome job, even if Jaffe was not completely involved).
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#35 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="RABicle"]Dont lie. It's jsut Gears of War without strafing.RABicle
No you Mean gears of war is resident evil 4 WITH strafing

Yeah, i know what came out first.

Ya, but you cant call Re5 gears without strafing when the whole control concept came from re4
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#36 WasntAvailable
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I think System Wars needs an anti-nostalgia force, because it seems to me so many people on this board let themsleves get ruled by nostalgia. It brings everyone else down, and it's really annoying...
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#37 agff9
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Leon needs to survive = survival horror :D this makes me laught I most of the games your character need to survive example :P Far Cry 2 when some one shoot to you , you need to survive to win aren't you ? so it makes this game survival horror ...no
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#38 mmirza23
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I just hate the fact that you can't aim and move and shoot at the same time, when he goes to aim his/her weapon, they become stationary which is ridiculous.

I loved the atmosphere in Dead Space, I just don't get the same feeling from this although to be fair the final game isn't out yet so that's to be determined, Dead Space was amazing, RE5 has a lot to live up to.

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#39 Lto_thaG
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RE5 is gonna be great,but what is it with people saying things like 'try RE4 on pro,then we'll talk'
I played and finished it one pro.It's a walk in the park :?
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#40 DaBrainz
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Whatever genre you label it doesn't matter, thats just semantics and has no value when discussing the game.

That being said RE5 is RE4 with a new paint job and I am fine with that because I really like RE4.

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Sorry, but Resident 4/5 will never be as good as there predecessor's. They are great shooters indeed, but "survival horror"?? No. sorry.
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#42 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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:lol: In a Re5 thread you find a way to bash halo 3 :roll: RE4.5 isnt a survival horror to me anymore its an 3rd person action adventure game with tacked on Co-Op.
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You want to know what Survival Horror is? S/H is Silent Hill, Condemned: Criminal Origins and System Shock 2. Where the "survival" aspect is an important and deeply essential part of the gameplay. You have to keep your wits about you and if you don't, you'll end up with less resources than you need to progress easily or just plain dead.

I bet RE5 is going to be a fantastic game... but calling it survival horror is just completely out of line. The game has moved beyond the genre it started in and into a more action-oriented mainstream. It is more of a horror shooter than survival horror.
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I agree with you eyezonmii let the haters hate and get pwned when the review comes out.
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Resident evil 4 is a survivor-horror game

Resident evil 5 is more like a action-horror game

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#46 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]:lol: In a Re5 thread you find a way to bash halo 3 :roll: RE4.5 isnt a survival horror to me anymore its an 3rd person action adventure game with tacked on Co-Op.

Tacked Co-op..... Will see when the scores come out
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]:lol: In a Re5 thread you find a way to bash halo 3 :roll: RE4.5 isnt a survival horror to me anymore its an 3rd person action adventure game with tacked on Co-Op.

I wasn't serious, i was using there silly logic.....gsus.
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#48 Eyezonmii
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Resident evil 4 is a survivor-horror game

Resident evil 5 is more like a action-horror game

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How, when RE5 feels more of a surival game, thanks to the buddy system....needing to not just worry about yourself, but your partner, including the fact that the game has less ammo this time, and MORE ENEMIES!
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#49 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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[QUOTE="Afro_Samurai1"]

Resident evil 4 is a survivor-horror game

Resident evil 5 is more like a action-horror game

Eyezonmii
How, when RE5 feels more of a surival game, thanks to the buddy system....needing to not just worry about yourself, but your partner, including the fact that the game has less ammo this time, and MORE ENEMIES!

I love RE4 and will love 5 but you can't say with a straight face that it's a survival horror game. When you have tomatoes dropped ammo you know there is too much.
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#50 hakanakumono
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The word survival is there for a reason.

Is mario a survival adventure game? No. Why the survival word? It signifies that there's a struggle to survive, hence the main character is at a disadvantage. Leon is consistently shown to be at an advantage, both in story (cocky attitutde, etc) as well as in gameplay (killing enemies gives you gold to buy better weapons to kill more enemies so they're less of a problem).

It's all about STRUGGLE. The closer you get to survival horror the closer you get to a main character that doesn't have any weapons that just runs, hides, etc (Clock Tower) or even better, utiliizes any tools available to survive (siren).

Second, RE4 was loosely horror, and RE5 doesn't even appear to be a horror game at all.