LittleBigPlanet takes next-gen gaming to a new level

[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

How is it minor?

If the game focuses on creativity, and LBP allows for a higher level of creativity (you don't just plop things down you construct and make them) then isn't it a pretty big deal for LBP?

Do any games have a level editor with a focus on creativity like THAT?

hakanakumono

That's a mod, not a prepackaged game.

Excite Bike on the NES. God knows how many hours I lost on that game. Good times, good times.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"][QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

How is it minor?

If the game focuses on creativity, and LBP allows for a higher level of creativity (you don't just plop things down you construct and make them) then isn't it a pretty big deal for LBP?

Do any games have a level editor with a focus on creativity like THAT?

angelkimne

That's a mod, not a prepackaged game.

Does it have too be a retail game too count ?

It has to be a console platformer to count, imo.

It's taking console platformers to a new height, which hasn't been done before.Thats why its innovative, not because its never been done before in another genre on another format catering to a different audience.

lollololol! These kind of games belong on the Wii... and I thought the PS3 at least had some dignity... I was wrong, this just further proves that Xbox 360 is THE better console

:twisted::twisted::twisted:

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"][QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

How is it minor?

If the game focuses on creativity, and LBP allows for a higher level of creativity (you don't just plop things down you construct and make them) then isn't it a pretty big deal for LBP?

Do any games have a level editor with a focus on creativity like THAT?

Haku_Ryushi

That's a mod, not a prepackaged game.

This. Its funny how Halo fanboys always bring up "Gary's Mod".

Funny how a mod has the same scope and functionality of a full game eh? LBP is nothing innovative or special, it's a gary's mod for consoles.

[QUOTE="APOLLOCJD"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="APOLLOCJD"]

You asked for my thoughts, mI am just giving them to you, if you want me to lie and say its the best thing since sliced bread please let me know next time you make a thread...

Al3x_n90

I didn't ask for fanboy's and bashers thoughts. You would of known that if you payed attention to the my first post in the topic. If your going to bash a game then you might as well leave.

So I'm a fanboy for saying the game is overhyped and done before? Yeah that makes sense...

Well we can't know for certain that LBP is overhyped until it comes out, then if it scores AAA it will live up to the hype :D

Halo 3 scored AAA and everyone says that is overhyped...

It has to be a console platformer to count, imo.

It's taking console platformers to a new height, which hasn't been done before.Thats why its innovative, not because its never been done before in another genre on another format catering to a different audience.

hakanakumono

But i think it's just silly not including PC & Downloadable games.

[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]

This. Its funny how Halo fanboys always bring up "Gary's Mod".

Haku_Ryushi

Yes it does. Mods dont count. Stop being a Halo fanboy. Please. Your ruining the whole thread now.

What does halo have to do with anything

It has to be a console platformer to count, imo.

It's taking console platformers to a new height, which hasn't been done before.Thats why its innovative, not because its never been done before in another genre on another format catering to a different audience.

hakanakumono

That only makes it an innovative platformer, not an innovative game per se.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"][QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

How is it minor?

If the game focuses on creativity, and LBP allows for a higher level of creativity (you don't just plop things down you construct and make them) then isn't it a pretty big deal for LBP?

Do any games have a level editor with a focus on creativity like THAT?

IronBass

That's a mod, not a prepackaged game.

Excite Bike on the NES. God knows how many hours I lost on that game. Good times, good times.

Holy crap, YES! I must have spent my whole childhood creating tracks!

[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]

This. Its funny how Halo fanboys always bring up "Gary's Mod".

Haku_Ryushi

Yes it does. Mods dont count. Stop being a Halo fanboy. Please. Your ruining the whole thread now.

Give me one good reason.

Especially such a popular one at that.

[QUOTE="APOLLOCJD"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="angelkimne"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Can you combine materials to make new things in Halo 3?

Haku_Ryushi

Example ?

Go to youtube and look up some LBP vids. Too lazy to go look for some.

LBP is only going to be as good as a player is creative, not anyone can design maps, and judging by how dumb cows seem to be these days, something tells me they aren't going to enjoy the game as much as Sony keeps telling them they will.

Thats why there are 50 levels included plus the ability to play other people's created levels online. Stop bashing the game. This isn't what i wanted when i created the topic. I wanted a nice discussion.

[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]

This. Its funny how Halo fanboys always bring up "Gary's Mod".

angelkimne

Yes it does. Mods dont count. Stop being a Halo fanboy. Please. Your ruining the whole thread now.

Give me one good reason.

Especially such a popular one at that.

Im dropping the pointless arguement before we get modded. This is about LBP not Halo and mods.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

It has to be a console platformer to count, imo.

It's taking console platformers to a new height, which hasn't been done before.Thats why its innovative, not because its never been done before in another genre on another format catering to a different audience.

IronBass

That's only makes it an innovative platformer, not an innovative game per se.

If its an innovative platformer its an innovative game by definition.

However, its not like you're either 100% innovative or not innovative at all. The truth is what LBP HAS been done before in the said mod. So its not like the 2nd coming of chris in bluray format. And its certainly not taking "next-gen gaming to the next level."

But its doing something new with platformers and it does deserve credit for that.

Im dropping the pointless arguement before we get modded. This is about LBP not Halo and mods.

Haku_Ryushi

This is well within the TOS.

If its an innovative platformer its an innovative game by definition.

However, its not like you're either 100% innovative or not innovative at all. The truth is what LBP HAS been done before in the said mod. So its not like the 2nd coming of chris in bluray format. And its certainly not taking "next-gen gaming to the next level."

But its doing something new with platformers and it does deserve credit for that.

hakanakumono

[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]

Im dropping the pointless arguement before we get modded. This is about LBP not Halo and mods.

angelkimne

This is well within the TOS.

No. This is gettin kind of off topic. This went from talking about LBP unique features to a stupid comparison of a Halo 3 MOD to LBP.

Thats why there are 50 levels included plus the ability to play other people's created levels online. Stop bashing the game. This isn't what i wanted when i created the topic. I wanted a nice discussion.

Haku_Ryushi

A nice discussion about why it's so great? This is system wars buddy, we are going to discuss why the game ISN'T so great as well if we choose.

[QUOTE="Al3x_n90"][QUOTE="APOLLOCJD"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="APOLLOCJD"]

You asked for my thoughts, mI am just giving them to you, if you want me to lie and say its the best thing since sliced bread please let me know next time you make a thread...

APOLLOCJD

I didn't ask for fanboy's and bashers thoughts. You would of known that if you payed attention to the my first post in the topic. If your going to bash a game then you might as well leave.

So I'm a fanboy for saying the game is overhyped and done before? Yeah that makes sense...

Well we can't know for certain that LBP is overhyped until it comes out, then if it scores AAA it will live up to the hype :D

Halo 3 scored AAA and everyone says that is overhyped...

Well lets face it...LBP is not as hyped as Halo 3...

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

If its an innovative platformer its an innovative game by definition.

However, its not like you're either 100% innovative or not innovative at all. The truth is what LBP HAS been done before in the said mod. So its not like the 2nd coming of chris in bluray format. And its certainly not taking "next-gen gaming to the next level."

But its doing something new with platformers and it does deserve credit for that.

angelkimne

*fanfare ensues*

[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]

Thats why there are 50 levels included plus the ability to play other people's created levels online. Stop bashing the game. This isn't what i wanted when i created the topic. I wanted a nice discussion.

Espada12

A nice discussion about why it's so great? This is system wars buddy, we are going to discuss why the game ISN'T so great as well if we choose.

Bashing is a whole lot different than discussing why the game isn't so great.

If its an innovative platformer its an innovative game by definition.

hakanakumono

True! But we could start a philosophical discussion about it!

The definition an "innovative game" could imply that a game is doing something that no game has done before, but, as we know, the "innovative platformer" only innovates in the platformer genre, so it can be said that it is not an "innovative game" because it presents things that have be done countless of time before in many games.

[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]

Im dropping the pointless arguement before we get modded. This is about LBP not Halo and mods.

Haku_Ryushi

This is well within the TOS.

No. This is gettin kind of off topic. This went from talking about LBP unique features to a stupid comparison of a Halo 3 MOD to LBP.

This is a discussion about LBP. If you had wanted to praise LBP, you should have gone to the game's forums instead of SW. In System Wars, we debate about things. Fact is, LBP is about editing and creating levels. You're saying it's the new level of next gen gaming when in fact it has been done before.

[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]

Im dropping the pointless arguement before we get modded. This is about LBP not Halo and mods.

Shinno441

This is well within the TOS.

No. This is gettin kind of off topic. This went from talking about LBP unique features to a stupid comparison of a Halo 3 MOD to LBP.

This is a discussion about LBP. If you had wanted to praise LBP, you should have gone to the game's forums instead of SW. In System Wars, we debate about things. Fact is, LBP is about editing and creating levels. You're saying it's the new level of next gen gaming when in fact it has been done before.

I never said you guys cant say the game isnt so great. But when you get fanboys bashing the game it gets really annoying. Im not talking about angelkimne either.

[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]

Im dropping the pointless arguement before we get modded. This is about LBP not Halo and mods.

Haku_Ryushi

This is well within the TOS.

No. This is gettin kind of off topic. This went from talking about LBP unique features to a stupid comparison of a Halo 3 MOD to LBP.

Gary's mod is not a Halo 3 mod.

Since LBP was being touted and innovative and taking gaming to the next level, a comparison to Gary's mod to show that it's features have been implemented elsewhere is valid.

[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]

Thats why there are 50 levels included plus the ability to play other people's created levels online. Stop bashing the game. This isn't what i wanted when i created the topic. I wanted a nice discussion.

Espada12

A nice discussion about why it's so great? This is system wars buddy, we are going to discuss why the game ISN'T so great as well if we choose.

I never said that. Its funny how you change my words around. I said a nice dicussion. Not a nice discussion on why its so great.

Its not revolutionary, Customization has been done before, and its not taking next-gen gaming to the next level... But what does make it special is the simplicityshahchip

I'm on board with this statement. It does present a refined interface to make it more accessible to casuals and the like.

How is it minor?

If the game focuses on creativity, and LBP allows for a higher level of creativity (you don't just plop things down you construct and make them) then isn't it a pretty big deal for LBP?

Do any games have a level editor with a focus on creativity like THAT?

hakanakumono

There are games that allow for considerably more creativity that anything we've seen out of LBP.

Namely, Blizzard's RTSes. I can practically guarantee that there will be many more legitimately creative maps made with Starcraft 2 than LBP, yet no one even mentions it...

[QUOTE="Al3x_n90"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]

[QUOTE="Al3x_n90"]I have to agree, LBP is very innovative and looks fun :P it scores high on all chapters in my book :D also i think it'll move many systems and be a very cool holiday gift :D xsubtownerx

Saved for intense future ownage.

Lookie here, the lems have already arrived :D Oh yeah, and if LBP will be a AAA? what then huh?

I couldn't care less if it got a AAA score. TC said it will "move many systems" and that my friend is why I will own him.

[QUOTE="Al3x_n90"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]

[QUOTE="Al3x_n90"]I have to agree, LBP is very innovative and looks fun :P it scores high on all chapters in my book :D also i think it'll move many systems and be a very cool holiday gift :D xsubtownerx

Saved for intense future ownage.

Lookie here, the lems have already arrived :D Oh yeah, and if LBP will be a AAA? what then huh?

I couldn't care less if it got a AAA score. TC said it will "move many systems" and that my friend is why I will own him.

They said MGS4 wouldn't move systems, go figure

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="Al3x_n90"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]

[QUOTE="Al3x_n90"]I have to agree, LBP is very innovative and looks fun :P it scores high on all chapters in my book :D also i think it'll move many systems and be a very cool holiday gift :D DanteSuikoden

Saved for intense future ownage.

Lookie here, the lems have already arrived :D Oh yeah, and if LBP will be a AAA? what then huh?

I couldn't care less if it got a AAA score. TC said it will "move many systems" and that my friend is why I will own him.

They said MGS4 wouldn't move systems, go figure

Well like i said, every good game moves systems :D

[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]

Go do some research my friend before you post. Just giving a friendly advice. But just so you could get the memo, you don't just edit you CREATE. Not flaming, just providing some friendly info ;)

Haku_Ryushi

Also, new contendant : Far Cry 2. Just remembered the Vid of the Map Maker in it.

Omg...When you create the level. Its BLANK, theres nothing there, zero, nada. You create from pure scratch, you dont edit.

You fail in my eyes for calling LBP next-gen...

[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]

This. Its funny how Halo fanboys always bring up "Gary's Mod".

Haku_Ryushi

Yes it does. Mods dont count. Stop being a Halo fanboy. Please. Your ruining the whole thread now.

This makes it apparent that you don't know what Garry's Mod is or how amazing it can be. It's also a great example of the fact that even when given all the tools, most people do nothing with them. It's the downfall of user content. Most users won't make anything good, but will instead wait around for someone else to make something good for them.

Then every PC game with a map editor should be re-reviewed and goty,LBP fanboys make it sound like it haven't been done before..MojondeVACA

A map editor is completely different. They're generally complex, difficult to use, have no distribution service, and serve as a supplementary feature to the actual game. With LBP the level editor is the game. It's meant to be used by everyone, hence it being easy to use and having the online distribution service built-in. Teufelhuhn

You can combine things to make things in LBP. Like a ... sombrero car. But you have to attach everything like you would in the real world (nails, glue, etc).

(In an article that stated that LBP wouldn't be user friendly enough, a tester made a sombrero car.

I believe you can also cut out shapes to make things and stuff but I'm not sure.

hakanakumono

Then every PC game with a map editor should be re-reviewed and goty,LBP fanboys make it sound like it haven't been done before..MojondeVACA

That's where most people lose the arguement since LBP main gameplay isn't editing

You fail in my eyes for calling LBP next-gen...

omgimba

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

A map editor is completely different. They're generally complex, difficult to use, have no distribution service, and serve as a supplementary feature to the actual game. With LBP the level editor is the game. It's meant to be used by everyone, hence it being easy to use and having the online distribution service built-in. MojondeVACA

You can combine things to make things in LBP. Like a ... sombrero car. But you have to attach everything like you would in the real world (nails, glue, etc).

(In an article that stated that LBP wouldn't be user friendly enough, a tester made a sombrero car.

I believe you can also cut out shapes to make things and stuff but I'm not sure.

hakanakumono

Yeah, what about it?

Honestly

Little big planet is a disgraceful game that belongs on the wii with all the other games for 5 year olds

yeah the ps3 is a failure but it should have some dignity

its sad sony has to resort to little kiddie games they must be truly desperate

have some dignity and send that piece of crap to the wii because nintendo has no self respect

this game will flop hard it will get a 5 maybe a 6 if its lucky

Honestly

Little big planet is a disgraceful game that belongs on the wii with all the other games for 5 year olds

yeah the ps3 is a failure but it should have some dignity

its sad sony has to resort to little kiddie games they must be truly desperate

have some dignity and send that piece of crap to the wii because nintendo has no self respect

this game will flop hard it will get a 5 maybe a 6 if its lucky

C4_yourself

Having Viva Pinata on your system must really embarrass you, huh?

Honestly

Little big planet is a disgraceful game that belongs on the wii with all the other games for 5 year olds

yeah the ps3 is a failure but it should have some dignity

its sad sony has to resort to little kiddie games they must be truly desperate

have some dignity and send that piece of crap to the wii because nintendo has no self respect

this game will flop hard it will get a 5 maybe a 6 if its lucky

C4_yourself

wow.. fanboyism has be taken to a whole new level, bashing 2 systems AT THE SAME TIME

Honestly

Little big planet is a disgraceful game that belongs on the wii with all the other games for 5 year olds

yeah the ps3 is a failure but it should have some dignity

its sad sony has to resort to little kiddie games they must be truly desperate

have some dignity and send that piece of crap to the wii because nintendo has no self respect

this game will flop hard it will get a 5 maybe a 6 if its lucky

C4_yourself

ZZZ.. calling a game disgraceful, kiddie, a piece of crap, and generalizing the wii is for 5 year olds.. Just shows what kind of gamer you are:roll:. Let me guess, you're a guru in gaming amiright?