LittleBigPlanet takes next-gen gaming to a new level

[QUOTE="C4_yourself"]

Honestly

Little big planet is a disgraceful game that belongs on the wii with all the other games for 5 year olds

yeah the ps3 is a failure but it should have some dignity

its sad sony has to resort to little kiddie games they must be truly desperate

have some dignity and send that piece of crap to the wii because nintendo has no self respect

this game will flop hard it will get a 5 maybe a 6 if its lucky

tmntPunchout

ZZZ.. calling a game disgraceful, kiddie, a piece of crap, and generalizing the wii is for 5 year olds.. Just shows what kind of gamer you are:roll:. Let me guess, you're a guru in gaming amiright?

this game will get a 5 maybe a 6 at the most

[QUOTE="C4_yourself"]

Honestly

Little big planet is a disgraceful game that belongs on the wii with all the other games for 5 year olds

yeah the ps3 is a failure but it should have some dignity

its sad sony has to resort to little kiddie games they must be truly desperate

have some dignity and send that piece of crap to the wii because nintendo has no self respect

this game will flop hard it will get a 5 maybe a 6 if its lucky

mattbbpl

Having Viva Pinata on your system must really embarrass you, huh?

[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="APOLLOCJD"]

[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]Everything. multiplayer, online, creativity, fun is all here in this game. I can't think of a game more appealing as family friendly and user friendly game as well. Fanboys don't flame, im just giving my honest opinion here. To everyone else: what are your thoughts?neogeo419

I think it looks like a pretty decent game but if becoming a little overrated, its a platformer with a ton of customizability which is really only going to appeal to a small group of gamers. I think a lot of people who are hyping this game will play it for a couple of weeks and then put it on their shelf and never touch it again...

Customizabilty? I don't think your getting the big picture. Where talking about creating a level and character from scratch.

Name one game that has any kind of intuitive level createing mode, excluding RTSs of course

[QUOTE="tmntPunchout"][QUOTE="C4_yourself"]

Honestly

Little big planet is a disgraceful game that belongs on the wii with all the other games for 5 year olds

yeah the ps3 is a failure but it should have some dignity

its sad sony has to resort to little kiddie games they must be truly desperate

have some dignity and send that piece of crap to the wii because nintendo has no self respect

this game will flop hard it will get a 5 maybe a 6 if its lucky

C4_yourself

ZZZ.. calling a game disgraceful, kiddie, a piece of crap, and generalizing the wii is for 5 year olds.. Just shows what kind of gamer you are:roll:. Let me guess, you're a guru in gaming amiright?

this game will get a 5 maybe a 6 at the most

A console can have dignity now, it isn't even alive. So I'm guessing someone also bought you a wii thinking you deserved a 5 year old console or you graced yourself with a gift fit for 5 year olds? Also, what about the M and T rated games on the Wii. Are you also proud that you will be/are graced with games such as uno, 1vs100, viva pinata, etc?

Little Big Planet is a cute game and it looks pretty interesting, but I think it is getting way too much hype. I don't expect it to be that much fun and the fact that Sony is backing it so hardcore just proves what a terrible exclusive line-up they have. I am much, much more interesting in Killzone 2 especially after hearing more about the multiplayer classes. That's a game that i know will hold me a lot longer than platformer, even if you can design your own levels :PMyopicCanadian

this game will get a 5 maybe a 6 if its lucky and a 7 if the review is being nice

Name one game that has any kind of intuitive level createing mode, excluding RTSs of course

footfoe2

You say "of course" like that's a reasonable exclusion. Why are RTS level creators excluded when FPS, Platformer, or any other kind of level creators are not? Is it because there are numerous RTS games that have better level creators than LBP?

[QUOTE="footfoe2"]

Name one game that has any kind of intuitive level createing mode, excluding RTSs of course

agentfred

You say "of course" like that's a reasonable exclusion. Why are RTS level creators excluded when FPS, Platformer, or any other kind of level creators are not? Is it because there are numerous RTS games that have better level creators than LBP?

How are there level creators better than LBP? I'm curious, because I don't really play many RTS games (excluding the original star craft).

[QUOTE="agentfred"][QUOTE="footfoe2"]

Name one game that has any kind of intuitive level createing mode, excluding RTSs of course

hakanakumono

You say "of course" like that's a reasonable exclusion. Why are RTS level creators excluded when FPS, Platformer, or any other kind of level creators are not? Is it because there are numerous RTS games that have better level creators than LBP?

How are there level creators better than LBP? I'm curious, because I don't really play many RTS games (excluding the original star craft).

They generally allow for a much greater degree of freedom in level creation. By giving the user more tools, it makes it harder to create, and less accessible, but it allows for better end results.

For instance, regardless of how creative the level designer is in LBP, at least based on what we've seen so far, it will always be a two dimensional platformer. In RTSes, namely Blizzards, pretty much anything you can imagine can be created. Earlier Blizzard RTSes have spawned some notable games like DotA (Gas Powered Games is turning it into an actual game now), Tower Defenses (all of the flash games were based off of what Starcraft users made), Footmen, and tens of thousands of other games and gameplay types.

Personally, I'm more excited for Starcraft 2's level editor than LBP's.

ُُEditing and making levels is something I've been doing since 2004, it's nothing new or next gen.

and now with Garry's Mod 10, you can too awesome things that no console game can ever do.

They generally allow for a much greater degree of freedom in level creation. By giving the user more tools, it makes it harder to create, and less accessible, but it allows for better end results.

For instance, regardless of how creative the level designer is in LBP, at least based on what we've seen so far, it will always be a two dimensional platformer. In RTSes, namely Blizzards, pretty much anything you can imagine can be created. Earlier Blizzard RTSes have spawned some notable games like DotA (Gas Powered Games is turning it into an actual game now), Tower Defenses (all of the flash games were based off of what Starcraft users made), Footmen, and tens of thousands of other games and gameplay types.

Personally, I'm more excited for Starcraft 2's level editor than LBP's.

agentfred

Explain how the level of freedom is greater in the RTS level editor. Or do you even know what you can do in LBP?

How can it be a two dimensional platformer when there is the strong creation element to the game? You can't simply disgregard the game's biggest claim to fame.

[QUOTE="Al3x_n90"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]

[QUOTE="Al3x_n90"]I have to agree, LBP is very innovative and looks fun :P it scores high on all chapters in my book :D also i think it'll move many systems and be a very cool holiday gift :D xsubtownerx

Saved for intense future ownage.

Lookie here, the lems have already arrived :D Oh yeah, and if LBP will be a AAA? what then huh?

I couldn't care less if it got a AAA score. TC said it will "move many systems" and that my friend is why I will own him.

[QUOTE="Espada12"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]

Thats why there are 50 levels included plus the ability to play other people's created levels online. Stop bashing the game. This isn't what i wanted when i created the topic. I wanted a nice discussion.

Haku_Ryushi

A nice discussion about why it's so great? This is system wars buddy, we are going to discuss why the game ISN'T so great as well if we choose.

I never said that. Its funny how you change my words around. I said a nice dicussion. Not a nice discussion on why its so great.

Every negative thing said about the game you term it bashing. So what do you expect me to think?

[QUOTE="agentfred"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"][QUOTE="agentfred"][QUOTE="footfoe2"]

Name one game that has any kind of intuitive level createing mode, excluding RTSs of course

hakanakumono

You say "of course" like that's a reasonable exclusion. Why are RTS level creators excluded when FPS, Platformer, or any other kind of level creators are not? Is it because there are numerous RTS games that have better level creators than LBP?

How are there level creators better than LBP? I'm curious, because I don't really play many RTS games (excluding the original star craft).

They generally allow for a much greater degree of freedom in level creation. By giving the user more tools, it makes it harder to create, and less accessible, but it allows for better end results.

For instance, regardless of how creative the level designer is in LBP, at least based on what we've seen so far, it will always be a two dimensional platformer. In RTSes, namely Blizzards, pretty much anything you can imagine can be created. Earlier Blizzard RTSes have spawned some notable games like DotA (Gas Powered Games is turning it into an actual game now), Tower Defenses (all of the flash games were based off of what Starcraft users made), Footmen, and tens of thousands of other games and gameplay types.

Personally, I'm more excited for Starcraft 2's level editor than LBP's.

Explain how the level of freedom is greater in the RTS level editor. Or do you even know what you can do in LBP?

How can it be a two dimensional platformer when there is the strong creation element to the game? You can't simply disgregard the game's biggest claim to fame.

He's saying that no matter how intuitive the tools are and no matter how creative the deisgner is, you're still limited to a two dimensional space. There are games with equal or better level creating tools than LBP, and many of them can use those tools in more meaningful ways. For instance, a great custom map made in Far Cry 2's level editor will be more fun and far more replayable because it can be used for competitive multiplayer (assuming Far Cry 2's multiplayer is any good).

He's saying that no matter how intuitive the tools are and no matter how creative the deisgner is, you're still limited to a two dimensional space. There are games with equal or better level creating tools than LBP, and many of them can use those tools in more meaningfull ways. For instance, a great custom map made in Far Cry 2's level editor will be more fun and far more replayable because it can be used for competitive multiplayer (assuming Far Cry 2's multiplayer is any good).

Gamer556

What does 2D space have to do with any of it? Can you essentially create things from your imagination in the said level editor or do you have to use preset objects etc?

I mean, I want to know if there's a game that lets you create on the level that LBP does. No one has explained how far those games go. Can you literally design and create your own objects in the said games? Can you peice together multiple objects to make new objects? Can you use "materials" to create something that isn't in the main game? This is what I want to know.

You do know that LBP features multiplayer, right?

[QUOTE="tmntPunchout"][QUOTE="C4_yourself"]

Honestly

Little big planet is a disgraceful game that belongs on the wii with all the other games for 5 year olds

yeah the ps3 is a failure but it should have some dignity

its sad sony has to resort to little kiddie games they must be truly desperate

have some dignity and send that piece of crap to the wii because nintendo has no self respect

this game will flop hard it will get a 5 maybe a 6 if its lucky

C4_yourself

ZZZ.. calling a game disgraceful, kiddie, a piece of crap, and generalizing the wii is for 5 year olds.. Just shows what kind of gamer you are:roll:. Let me guess, you're a guru in gaming amiright?

this game will get a 5 maybe a 6 at the most

Quite shallow, although I know you are entitled to your opinion, I think your wrong. This game has a lot going for it. If it gets anything lower than what you stated, then I will curl up in a corner and cry like a LittleBigBaby.

[QUOTE="Gamer556"]

He's saying that no matter how intuitive the tools are and no matter how creative the deisgner is, you're still limited to a two dimensional space. There are games with equal or better level creating tools than LBP, and many of them can use those tools in more meaningfull ways. For instance, a great custom map made in Far Cry 2's level editor will be more fun and far more replayable because it can be used for competitive multiplayer (assuming Far Cry 2's multiplayer is any good).

hakanakumono

What does 2D space have to do with any of it? Can you essentially create things from your imagination in the said level editor or do you have to use preset objects etc?

I mean, I want to know if there's a game that lets you create on the level that LBP does. No one has explained how far those games go. Can you literally design and create your own objects in the said games? Can you peice together multiple objects to make new objects? Can you use "materials" to create something that isn't in the main game? This is what I want to know.

You do know that LBP features multiplayer, right?

Most the editors on the PC allow you to create your own objects, yes. I don't know of one that will let you glue two objects together, but that's because you could create the combined object from scratch anyway.

They are much more powerful than what you see on Consoles, but they are also more complex.

I will be buying LBP the day it comes out, but I think the hype is a little bit excessive. I mean, this is a 2D platformer we're talking about. I have nothing against the genre, but there's no denying that these games have their limits.Gamer556

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]

He's saying that no matter how intuitive the tools are and no matter how creative the deisgner is, you're still limited to a two dimensional space. There are games with equal or better level creating tools than LBP, and many of them can use those tools in more meaningfull ways. For instance, a great custom map made in Far Cry 2's level editor will be more fun and far more replayable because it can be used for competitive multiplayer (assuming Far Cry 2's multiplayer is any good).

mattbbpl

What does 2D space have to do with any of it? Can you essentially create things from your imagination in the said level editor or do you have to use preset objects etc?

I mean, I want to know if there's a game that lets you create on the level that LBP does. No one has explained how far those games go. Can you literally design and create your own objects in the said games? Can you peice together multiple objects to make new objects? Can you use "materials" to create something that isn't in the main game? This is what I want to know.

You do know that LBP features multiplayer, right?

Most the editors on the PC allow you to create your own objects, yes. I don't know of one that will let you glue two objects together, but that's because you could create the combined object from scratch anyway.

They are much more powerful than what you see on Consoles, but they are also more complex.

Thank you, I had no idea. :)

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]

He's saying that no matter how intuitive the tools are and no matter how creative the deisgner is, you're still limited to a two dimensional space. There are games with equal or better level creating tools than LBP, and many of them can use those tools in more meaningfull ways. For instance, a great custom map made in Far Cry 2's level editor will be more fun and far more replayable because it can be used for competitive multiplayer (assuming Far Cry 2's multiplayer is any good).

hakanakumono

What does 2D space have to do with any of it? Can you essentially create things from your imagination in the said level editor or do you have to use preset objects etc?

I mean, I want to know if there's a game that lets you create on the level that LBP does. No one has explained how far those games go. Can you literally design and create your own objects in the said games? Can you peice together multiple objects to make new objects? Can you use "materials" to create something that isn't in the main game? This is what I want to know.

You do know that LBP features multiplayer, right?

Most the editors on the PC allow you to create your own objects, yes. I don't know of one that will let you glue two objects together, but that's because you could create the combined object from scratch anyway.

They are much more powerful than what you see on Consoles, but they are also more complex.

Thank you, I had no idea. :)

No problem :)

[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]

This. Its funny how Halo fanboys always bring up "Gary's Mod".

Haku_Ryushi

Yes it does. Mods dont count. Stop being a Halo fanboy. Please. Your ruining the whole thread now.

Give me one good reason.

Especially such a popular one at that.

Im dropping the pointless arguement before we get modded. This is about LBP not Halo and mods.

ُُEditing and making levels is something I've been doing since 2004, it's nothing new or next gen.

and now with Garry's Mod 10, you can too awesome things that no console game can ever do.

kingfire11

This is the truth

[QUOTE="APOLLOCJD"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="angelkimne"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Can you combine materials to make new things in Halo 3?

Haku_Ryushi

Example ?

Go to youtube and look up some LBP vids. Too lazy to go look for some.

LBP is only going to be as good as a player is creative, not anyone can design maps, and judging by how dumb cows seem to be these days, something tells me they aren't going to enjoy the game as much as Sony keeps telling them they will.

Thats why there are 50 levels included plus the ability to play other people's created levels online. Stop bashing the game. This isn't what i wanted when i created the topic. I wanted a nice discussion.

If I had a PS3 I'd get it.

Am I the only person who thinks its lazy for developers to give you a canvas and expect you to make all of the stuff? Jakendo

I think thats where they got "Play.Create.Share" from.

Am I the only person who thinks its lazy for developers to give you a canvas and expect you to make all of the stuff? Jakendo

Am I the only person who thinks its lazy for developers to give you a canvas and expect you to make all of the stuff? Jakendo

They give you 12 hours worth of pre made levels... and i heard Gears of War has less than 12 hours of single player

[QUOTE="MyopicCanadian"]Little Big Planet is a cute game and it looks pretty interesting, but I think it is getting way too much hype. I don't expect it to be that much fun and the fact that Sony is backing it so hardcore just proves what a terrible exclusive line-up they have. I am much, much more interesting in Killzone 2 especially after hearing more about the multiplayer classes. That's a game that i know will hold me a lot longer than platformer, even if you can design your own levels :PC4_yourself

this game will get a 5 maybe a 6 if its lucky and a 7 if the review is being nice

Saved for future ownage.

[QUOTE="C4_yourself"]

[QUOTE="MyopicCanadian"]Little Big Planet is a cute game and it looks pretty interesting, but I think it is getting way too much hype. I don't expect it to be that much fun and the fact that Sony is backing it so hardcore just proves what a terrible exclusive line-up they have. I am much, much more interesting in Killzone 2 especially after hearing more about the multiplayer classes. That's a game that i know will hold me a lot longer than platformer, even if you can design your own levels :PSoulja_West

this game will get a 5 maybe a 6 if its lucky and a 7 if the review is being nice

Saved for future ownage.

lol look at my sig

next gen gaming to a new level? by taking what pc's have been able to do for 10+ years and watering it down?mephisto_11

Its much more innovative then Crysis or COD4. Crysis = Far Cry with better graphics. COD4 = linear shooter with no physics or destruction. LBP is innovative.

[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]next gen gaming to a new level? by taking what pc's have been able to do for 10+ years and watering it down?nVidiaGaMer

Its much more innovative then Crysis or COD4. Crysis = Far Cry with better graphics. COD4 = linear shooter with no physics or destruction. LBP is innovative.

See, I can do that too. ;)

:lol: Banjo N&B is the real deal in taking platforming to a new level.

Banjo N&B > LBP :P

[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]

Omg...When you create the level. Its BLANK, theres nothing there, zero, nada. You create from pure scratch, you dont edit.

angelkimne

*jaw drops*:shock:

[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]

Omg...When you create the level. Its BLANK, theres nothing there, zero, nada. You create from pure scratch, you dont edit.

Snugenz

*jaw drops*:shock:

Honestly

Little big planet is a disgraceful game that belongs on the wii with all the other games for 5 year olds

yeah the ps3 is a failure but it should have some dignity

its sad sony has to resort to little kiddie games they must be truly desperate

have some dignity and send that piece of crap to the wii because nintendo has no self respect

this game will flop hard it will get a 5 maybe a 6 if its lucky

C4_yourself

My poor goggie.

Why did you have to hype this piece of garbage?