LOL. Quantum Break on X1 is 720p without locked 30 FPS

I thought Lems said DX12 and the cloudz were supposed to prevent embarrassments like this from happening?

We've been waiting on this Secret Sauce that Lems have been hyping for years, and yet it's still a shitbox720P console.

Jesus, it's 2016 and these consoles cannot hit 60fps with 1080p? Has that not been the standard on pc since around Half Life 2? I dont get it, I dont see any reason that make me want to switch back to consoles, from my pc that ive had for 2.5 years now. I see zero reason.

Now that'a the spirit!!!!! I'm going to pre-order the physical copy tomorrow. I dont think it comes with PC version, but I can get game for $48 and I have a $20 certificate at Best Buy. I think $28 fora new came is great, but yeah I miss out on PC version. Not sure if I'll get Alan Wake code.

Yeah I think you get the Alan Wake code for physical copies too.

720p at a questionable 30fps is kind of lulz, you gotta admit.

Sill, I do agree with you. These consoles have their limits and the bar is pretty low. If I could trade better asset quality, or more importantly, better performance in exchange for 1080p, I'd gladly take it with a lot of games. Seriously, I would have been all over a 720p version of Bloodborne if it meant no more stuttering or frame dips.

@dynamitecop:

That poster is member of DF.

Witcher 3 has menus in 1080p, but render output is 900p on Xbone. HUD in Halo 5 is 1080p, but Halo 5 barely hits 1080p. Mostly is hovering aroung 900p or lower.

@xhawk27:

Remedy said at SIGGRAPH last year that the final image output is 1080p, nothing else. Doesn't mean it is a render output. Battlefront has final image output on Xbone 1080p, but render output is 720p.

NO is not and DF didn't found 1 trace of 1080p pixel count on all the footage they analyse...lol

But what do you care aren't you a PC gamer.?

Yeah is a new technique call "Bluff Rendering"" it involves the developers claiming the game to be a certain resolution then delivering one that is lower than the claimed resolution,is quite common on xbox one,The witcher 3 has it as well.

I'll take that with some new chevo's! :D

I mean, they absolutely could, but then the games would look like PS3.2 games. Slightly better looking than last gen titles but super clean and smooth.

And when it comes down to it, most devs will always take visuals over performance because shiny things are easier to peddle to a mass market.

I'm with you though, if you have a good gaming PC there is no good reason to jump on these consoles. This is the first gen ever where 95+% of my gaming is on the PC. Most of the games are there in much better form.

I keep a WiiU and PS4 around for exclusives, but that's about it.

My advice is to anyone who buys the game, is to enjoy it because that's what will make the cows here mad, as we all know cows are never happy when people from another platform gets to enjoy a game they can't.

I just had money to burn so I bought them.

I commend Uncharted 4 for sticking to the 1080P guns for SP. I'm not entirely sure what looks better at this point, but by the end of the gen I'd be really surprised to see any more 1080P visual blockbusters.

Because 1080p is the next big thing....

@dynamitecop:

Wait so this is just according to one post from neogaf??? Why should anyone take this seriously?

lol, same. Do you get much use out of them? I'll admit, I've actually gotten some mileage out of the WiiU. PS4 has just been Bloodborne, Axiom Verge and Ground Zeroes. The latter two didn't have PC versions at the time. There are some PS4 games I'm looking forward to though, so it may be worth it in the long run.

I still just can't justify the Xbone and considering the direction they're going with their "exclusives" I'll probably never have to.

this thread

@Chutebox: Ok let me rewind, you said you own a PS4 and can play Quantum Break, you also said your PC can't run shit. So how can you play Quantum Break unless you have an X1. Perhaps you are the one smoking.

Can't remember the last time I played any of them. Hell my PS4 was still in its box after 4 months since I bought it.

Wait what.? Consoles you say.? The PS4 doesn't have a single 720p game.

So just because apple decide to make an Iphone 6S that mean the 6 sucks.?

Moving to how things work more on PC or cell phones is not that bad after all aren't you a PC gamer.?

Please link me to were sony or MS promise that all games would be 1080p 60FPS.

Uncharted was targeting 60 FPS but with the level or visuals it has i don't think it would have get close,alto unlike QB Uncharted is 1080p.

The UI is not the game it self,the same shit happen with the witcher 3 which was claim to be dynamic 1080p but reality is that never in game it was measure at 1080p it was on the menus were the game was 1080p which is a joke.

You should read well that article again the UI running at 1080p mean shit when all the assets in game are 720p.

Is not like one will get face out as soon as the new one comes,and i am sure the new one will cost more ,but are you playing the hypocrite now because that is how PC has being since the started are you implying that the get a new stronger version each road map that PC has use for generations is wrong? Or are you making all this crying to downplay the PS4.?

lol The master begger arrived...lol

@i_p_daily: Odd how that's fits the hate for any PS4 exclusive.

How can Lems try and defend this? Just say okay. Some SW Warriors are showing they true Lemming colors over this shenanigans.

lol I can relate man. My PS4 sat on the corner of my work desk for something like 6 months. Then when I moved, both my PS4 and WiiU stayed boxed up for a few months.

Now I use my PS4 for a TV box and on occasion I'll play a game on the WiiU.

They dont even defend it. They just ignore it and eat this shit with a smile while crying about how bullied they are, lol.

Microsoft has spent half of their chip area budget on 32 MB ESRAM i.e. they could have two 7790 GPUs with a total 28 CU.

Microsoft could have configured XBO like a gaming PC i.e.

GPU: 28 CU GCN with 24 active CU i.e. same chip size as current XBO's APU. TFLOPS: 2.620 with 24 CU at 853Mhz

Video memory: 256 bit GDDR5-5500 2GB.

Main memory: 128 bit DDR3-2133 8 GB.

In ALU power, 1280x720p to 1920x1080p is slightly above 2X.

Benefits with two 7790... 4 tessellation units.

Give Sony XBO's 365 mm^2 chip budget, you get 28 CU IGP with 8 GB GDDR5.

Anyway, Windows 10 includes Xbox like protected sandbox and 14 nm or 16 nm is large jump from 28 nm process tech.

Why exactly would you put yourself through the torture of playing the Xbox One version? Are you a masochist?

So that PS4 library still sitting at 2?

Having a massively overpowered PC just kills the need for consoles. There is nothing on consoles that interest me that I can't already play on my PC. I'm currently having a blast playing DR3. If I could get the full fat Forza games on PC, I'd have zero need for my X1.

@charizard1605: I suppose some age comes into it. Pokémon was a cartoon when I was an adult. It never spoke to me.

I don't care about the resolution of QB. Everything I've seen has me wanting to play the game.

@ConanTheStoner: You say you use your PS4 as a TV box?

Do you have PS Vue?

I just saw a commercial where it has live sports....that's the only thing that makes it worth having cable or satellite.

2.5

Bloodborne, Axiom, GZ lol. At least Bloodborne is my 2nd favorite game of the gen, that must count for something.

No only that the game has few enemies and it take place mainly in enclosed areas,i wonder where are those who talked crap about The Order, this games is gears of war without locus and with time shifting abilities.

He really doesn't know what he is talking about is not the first time either that a game is declare to be 1080p on xbox one and end not being that way.

What is the UI.? Unit interface the MENU.?

The game is not natively render at 1080p is 720p and has a pixel count of 1280 x720p that is the pixel count DF found there is no 1920x1080p pixel count on everything DF has analyse so far so yeah is 720p,the UI is irrelevant .

Rendering at a native 1920x1080, Sony's platform gives a far crisper looking image at every turn, flattering the game's foliage-heavy details at range. Meanwhile, the promised 'dynamic resolution' solution on Xbox One doesn't appear to hit the 1080p target in any of our samples. Instead, for the most part the game renders at 1600x900, with only video cut-scenes providing true 1080p output for any noticeable length of time.

The witcher 3 ^^ the same shit happen.

Sorry, poor wording on my part lol. Basically I just use it for streaming services, Amazon Video, Netflix, Hulu, etc..

My smart TV should be able to do that for me, but it tends to drop connection unlike the PS4.

Yes, but the output is native 1080p, that is how the UI remains at 1080p because it's natively being outputted, it's not being upscaled. The game itself doesn't need to render at 1080p for it to output natively at 1080p, the game could be upscaled internally from a lower resolution with all the menus and UI being native, but in order for that to take place it has to output natively. If the aforementioned didn't output at 1080p then the menu's and UI would simply be a lower resolution as well with an upscale.

I'll be playing this on PC but I can't believe for a second they would release this with 1080p UI and 720p gameplay on X1 there's just no way. They would literally be a laughing stock. Lots of people on this thread are already assuming that's exactly what's going to happen when the truth is nobody has any idea what the final code will reveal.

It's no secret on here I am less than enamoured with my Halo Box One but let's get real here SW banter and 'lems' hate aside, no way will they release this running at 720p upscaled to 1080p ingame does anyone really believe even MS would be that stupid?

If you can play it on PC there is literally no reason to play it on Xbox One.

Nice meltdown...

Curiously, the paper also states Xbox One's final output is 1920x1080, and that's where there is some confusion - as we've yet to see evidence of full HD 1080p gameplay in close analysis - barring the title's HUD elements and menus. In every scene tested so far, a native resolution of 720p is the consistent result found in each pixel count test - so while there's every possibility of individual render targets operating at higher resolutions, basic geometry that we're able to measure hands in a 720p result as things stand.

Hud and menus..lol and yes 720p in everything they tested so far NyaDC...lol

They have a track record of doing this shit,Alan wake was one of the most low resolution games on xbox 360 i think only beat by Blackops..

I call it for months that we have to wait and see because of Remedy track record of trading resolution for visuals.

No read DF article dude.

@NFJSupreme said:

Imagine the wonders that could happen on ps4 with its power if exclusives weren't forced to be 1080p

Uncharted 4 look better than QB look more open and is 1080p.

@dynamitecop:

What the hell you trying to spin?

According to you, if menu in game and HUD are rendered at 1080p, game is native 1080p. LOL, what? Final image output is one thing, render output another thing. And the thing is that game is not render @1080p. So, it can't be native 1080p

DF didn't mentioned a single word about that game is native 1080p, but it's 720p.

@ConanTheStoner: awww....i was wanting some first hand thoughts on it.

@dynamitecop: I have to say WTF are talking about? You can have UI assets at natively higher resolution than what the actual game renders. Infect you can have many many other assets at lower res than others. Perhaps you talking about text or writings that are actually part of the render part of the texture. Pain in the ass to localize. I don't know why your dancing around this. When you here language that says created in some resolution but final output is higher resolution. It means the final output is not the native resolution its as simple as that. They use the sdk scaler to produce a final output of 1080p as sort of the standard signal for you tv but pixel count are still from native resolution. can be measure in different parts that may vary. This is obviously better that leaving the scaling capabilities of your screen or some other software. Well xboxone scaler was actually shity at the beginning.

He claims to be a PC gamer but spends all his time in Xbox Defence Mode which NO PC gamer ever does apart from NyadDC (this may well be one of his alts) so obviously he's lying or just plain trolling. Nobody who owns a good PC and an Xbox One is ever buying this on console you can safely write him off as a complete f***ing idiot.

I guess you are forgetting the fact that you get the PC version when you purchase the Xbox version. This makes your statement sound rather dumb.

I am sorry to say but you are wrong. The final resolution is natively whatever the GPU pumps out and this case it would be 1080p. This game is most likely deferred rendered allow for various image based effects to be rendered at a lower resolution. This method is used in CG to reduce render times while maintaining the overall quality and resolution. Do not confuse this with upscaling because its not.

@tormentos:

Again didn't they get that from a neogaf post? But either way no one knows the final resolutions. I say we wait and see.