MASS EFFECT 3- Was the ending bad enough to ruin THE ENTIRE GAME?

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

mass effect 3 ignores mostly all the big choises, it replaces the characters with another one and keep the same story with a few different lines

learn from witcher 2, you pick a side and a whole new town with whole new quests open with different choises and ending and view on war

Krelian-co

yeah the ending don't really change but whole chapter changes based on your choises nad third one is quite different also. but in mass effect 3: you killed rachni queen, bam space magic, this one is a "clone". you killed the council. bam, space magic, new one who has almost the same lines and do the same. you gave the collector base to cerberus or not: bam space magic, cerberus still has the same reaper tech, now you only need 1000 ems more, wow what a change! the only one that mildly changes is wheater wrex lives or dies, and then again, its the line of the dialogue, not any actual event.

It didn't really ruin my experience. But what I don't like is how they make a DLC we're probably going to pay for to get a better ending.shadowchronicle

The ending is pretty nonscensical we go from a sci-fi game that was somewhat logical to sci-fi fantasy.

For example shepard gets blasted full on by a Soveriegn class reaper beam in the face, but some how magically survives?

Also the synthesis so a magical green beam magically tranforms trillions of organic and synthetic organisms using space magic?

same with the controll ending so shepard gets "absorbed" and what... becames a reaper..how exactly?

The ending is just stupid it ruins a good game particularly when you compare it to the Tuchanka arch and the qurian geth arc its just totally crap.

My beef with ME3 was the entire "OMG TEH SYNTEHTICS WILL KILL US IF WE DON'T LET THESE BIGGER SYNTHETICS KILL US" crap they threw at us in the end. The 1st, two game were in my opinion about Humanity trying to find its way in the galaxy and using it's newly acquired power to help the other races. The Synthetics vs Organics story was always a secondary plot. Making the reapers "synthetics" (who are made of organics ? WHAT ??) was such BS. Having some God child we've never heard of come in at the last second and give you 3 similar endings was just a slap in the face by BIoware.

>Reading thread, everybody voicing opinions
>Buttmad Texas enters the thread
>Flamewar ensues

Give it a rest texas, ffs.

>Reading thread, everybody voicing opinions
>Buttmad Texas enters the thread
>Flamewar ensues

Give it a rest texas, ffs.

Sagem28

his modus operandi is spamming and spamming until people gets bored of answering to him then he will think he was right and "won" the argument even though most of the time he is wrong. lol xD

>Reading thread, everybody voicing opinions
>Buttmad Texas enters the thread
>Flamewar ensues

Give it a rest texas, ffs.

Sagem28

Strange that he is now defending the end as he once admitted it was s*** compared to the rest of the game.

The ending ruins the main plot of the entire Mass Effect series. The companions storys wrap up nicely though. :)

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Krelian-co"]mass effect 3 ignores mostly all the big choises, it replaces the characters with another one and keep the same story with a few different lines

learn from witcher 2, you pick a side and a whole new town with whole new quests open with different choises and ending and view on war

Krelian-co

yeah the ending don't really change but whole chapter changes based on your choises nad third one is quite different also. but in mass effect 3: you killed rachni queen, bam space magic, this one is a "clone". you killed the council. bam, space magic, new one who has almost the same lines and do the same. you gave the collector base to cerberus or not: bam space magic, cerberus still has the same reaper tech, now you only need 1000 ems more, wow what a change! the only one that mildly changes is wheater wrex lives or dies, and then again, its the line of the dialogue, not any actual event.

It didn't ruin it for me. I loved the game. The ending wasn't good, but it wasn't any dumber or more nonsensical than stuff like 2001 A Space Odyssey and it certainly wasn't the dumbest video game ending I've seen. Not by a long shot.

Senor_Kami

It's the most dumbest ending to any piece of medium ever created.

[spoiler] Artificial Intelligence that surpasses the Technological Singularity becomes unpredictable, so the Catalyst claiming it'll wipe out all organic life, and is the reason why it created the Reapers to destroy all advanced organic life to prevent them from creating synthetic life, is the dumbest piece of logic I've ever heard in my life.

Synthetic life has never wiped out all organic life, so claiming it will inevitably happen is dumb logic.

What was the Catalyst, by the way? An AI? Why hasn't it tried to wipe out all organic life? Or was it a supernatural being in a Universe grounded in the Evolution Theory?

Why does the Solution stop working because Shepard managed to meet it?

Why are the Crucible controls built into the Citadel?

If the Catalyst could merge all organic and synthetic life together, preventing synthetics wiping out all organic life, why didn't they do that in the first place?

Why didn't they create simpler methods to stop synthetic life from killing all organic life? Why not create huge EMP devices inside the Mass Relays, as a killswitch to shutdown all synthetic life in the galaxy?

Why do the Reapers interfere with evolution, and why do they help organic life rapidly advance to the technological stage which will be organic lifes demise? How do they know that in a new cycle, organic life may not create Artifical Intelligent, but find another way to evolve? [/spoiler]

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Mass Effect 3s ending makes both Mass Effect 1 and 2 irrelevent.

[spoiler] Why couldn't the Catalyst send the signal to the Reapers in Dark Space? What was the point of the Collectors arc? Also, why did the Reapers move the Citadel to Earth at the end of ME3, instead of shutting down all Mass Relays, isolate the entire galaxy, and preventing the Crucible from connecting to the Citadel? [/spoiler]

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That's just the tip of the iceberg. There's so many things wrong with the ending, it's shocking. I could go into detail but I've discussed this 1000 of times and I'm tired of it.

[QUOTE="Senor_Kami"]

It didn't ruin it for me. I loved the game. The ending wasn't good, but it wasn't any dumber or more nonsensical than stuff like 2001 A Space Odyssey and it certainly wasn't the dumbest video game ending I've seen. Not by a long shot.

Peredith

It's the most dumbest ending to any piece of medium ever created.

[spoiler] Artificial Intelligence that surpasses the Technological Singularity becomes unpredictable, so the Catalyst claiming it'll wipe out all organic life, and is the reason why it created the Reapers to destroy all advanced organic life to prevent them from creating synthetic life, is the dumbest piece of logic I've ever heard in my life.

Synthetic life has never wiped out all organic life, so claiming it will inevitably happen is dumb logic.

What was the Catalyst, by the way? An AI? Why hasn't it tried to wipe out all organic life? Or was it a supernatural being in a Universe grounded in the Evolution Theory?

Why does the Solution stop working because Shepard managed to meet it?

Why are the Crucible controls built into the Citadel?

If the Catalyst could merge all organic and synthetic life together, preventing synthetics wiping out all organic life, why didn't they do that in the first place?

Why didn't they create simpler methods to stop synthetic life from killing all organic life? Why not create huge EMP devices inside the Mass Relays, as a killswitch to shutdown all synthetic life in the galaxy?

Why do the Reapers interfere with evolution, and why do they help organic life rapidly advance to the technological stage which will be organic lifes demise? How do they know that in a new cycle, organic life may not create Artifical Intelligent, but find another way to evolve? [/spoiler]

:|

Mass Effect 3s ending makes both Mass Effect 1 and 2 irrelevent.

[spoiler] Why couldn't the Catalyst send the signal to the Reapers in Dark Space? What was the point of the Collectors arc? Also, why did the Reapers move the Citadel to Earth at the end of ME3, instead of shutting down all Mass Relays, isolate the entire galaxy, and preventing the Crucible from connecting to the Citadel? [/spoiler]

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That's just the tip of the iceberg. There's so many things wrong with the ending, it's shocking. I could go into detail but I've discussed this 1000 of times and I'm tired of it.

[QUOTE="Krelian-co"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] Before The Enhanced Edition....TW2 choices didn't impact the ending as well. Your choices didn't matter in the end, until they fixed it. And Bioware specifically said they did NOT want to do what the TW2 did and split the game up so the players can experience all the missions in the game.Loegi

yeah the ending don't really change but whole chapter changes based on your choises nad third one is quite different also. but in mass effect 3: you killed rachni queen, bam space magic, this one is a "clone". you killed the council. bam, space magic, new one who has almost the same lines and do the same. you gave the collector base to cerberus or not: bam space magic, cerberus still has the same reaper tech, now you only need 1000 ems more, wow what a change! the only one that mildly changes is wheater wrex lives or dies, and then again, its the line of the dialogue, not any actual event.

I didn't have a problem with it. I wonder what the complainers wanted from it.cainetao11

The game was amazing (still is) and after I saw the ending on youtube, needless to say I still haven't beaten ME3 yet.

[QUOTE="Peredith"]

[QUOTE="Senor_Kami"]

It didn't ruin it for me. I loved the game. The ending wasn't good, but it wasn't any dumber or more nonsensical than stuff like 2001 A Space Odyssey and it certainly wasn't the dumbest video game ending I've seen. Not by a long shot.

texasgoldrush

It's the most dumbest ending to any piece of medium ever created.

[spoiler] Artificial Intelligence that surpasses the Technological Singularity becomes unpredictable, so the Catalyst claiming it'll wipe out all organic life, and is the reason why it created the Reapers to destroy all advanced organic life to prevent them from creating synthetic life, is the dumbest piece of logic I've ever heard in my life.

Synthetic life has never wiped out all organic life, so claiming it will inevitably happen is dumb logic.

What was the Catalyst, by the way? An AI? Why hasn't it tried to wipe out all organic life? Or was it a supernatural being in a Universe grounded in the Evolution Theory?

Why does the Solution stop working because Shepard managed to meet it?

Why are the Crucible controls built into the Citadel?

If the Catalyst could merge all organic and synthetic life together, preventing synthetics wiping out all organic life, why didn't they do that in the first place?

Why didn't they create simpler methods to stop synthetic life from killing all organic life? Why not create huge EMP devices inside the Mass Relays, as a killswitch to shutdown all synthetic life in the galaxy?

Why do the Reapers interfere with evolution, and why do they help organic life rapidly advance to the technological stage which will be organic lifes demise? How do they know that in a new cycle, organic life may not create Artifical Intelligent, but find another way to evolve? [/spoiler]

:|

Mass Effect 3s ending makes both Mass Effect 1 and 2 irrelevent.

[spoiler] Why couldn't the Catalyst send the signal to the Reapers in Dark Space? What was the point of the Collectors arc? Also, why did the Reapers move the Citadel to Earth at the end of ME3, instead of shutting down all Mass Relays, isolate the entire galaxy, and preventing the Crucible from connecting to the Citadel? [/spoiler]

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That's just the tip of the iceberg. There's so many things wrong with the ending, it's shocking. I could go into detail but I've discussed this 1000 of times and I'm tired of it.

they could once they had the citadel, what do you think saren was trying to do. they could have gone for the citadel first, take it and shut down the relays. ignoring events in the games to fit your logic again ?

Lets be fair here, if Mass effect 1 didn't have a good story, do you think this franchise would even have gotten off the ground on its gameplay alone? Mass effect 2 definitely improved the gameplay, but it was still far behind that of other TPS games, and the real initative to keep my going was still the story development. Same with Mass Effect 3, hell i spent i don't know how many hours grinding argueably the most arbitary, stereotypical multiplayer there is, just for the sake of maximizing my galaxy readiness rating to get the best possible ending.

And when you get signed off by the end of the game, there is only one justifiable reaction and that is: WTF

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Peredith"]

It's the most dumbest ending to any piece of medium ever created.

[spoiler] Artificial Intelligence that surpasses the Technological Singularity becomes unpredictable, so the Catalyst claiming it'll wipe out all organic life, and is the reason why it created the Reapers to destroy all advanced organic life to prevent them from creating synthetic life, is the dumbest piece of logic I've ever heard in my life.

Synthetic life has never wiped out all organic life, so claiming it will inevitably happen is dumb logic.

What was the Catalyst, by the way? An AI? Why hasn't it tried to wipe out all organic life? Or was it a supernatural being in a Universe grounded in the Evolution Theory?

Why does the Solution stop working because Shepard managed to meet it?

Why are the Crucible controls built into the Citadel?

If the Catalyst could merge all organic and synthetic life together, preventing synthetics wiping out all organic life, why didn't they do that in the first place?

Why didn't they create simpler methods to stop synthetic life from killing all organic life? Why not create huge EMP devices inside the Mass Relays, as a killswitch to shutdown all synthetic life in the galaxy?

Why do the Reapers interfere with evolution, and why do they help organic life rapidly advance to the technological stage which will be organic lifes demise? How do they know that in a new cycle, organic life may not create Artifical Intelligent, but find another way to evolve? [/spoiler]

:|

Mass Effect 3s ending makes both Mass Effect 1 and 2 irrelevent.

[spoiler] Why couldn't the Catalyst send the signal to the Reapers in Dark Space? What was the point of the Collectors arc? Also, why did the Reapers move the Citadel to Earth at the end of ME3, instead of shutting down all Mass Relays, isolate the entire galaxy, and preventing the Crucible from connecting to the Citadel? [/spoiler]

:|

That's just the tip of the iceberg. There's so many things wrong with the ending, it's shocking. I could go into detail but I've discussed this 1000 of times and I'm tired of it.

Krelian-co

they could once they had the citadel, what do you think saren was trying to do. they could have gone for the citadel first, take it and shut down the relays. ignoring events in the games to fit your logic again ?

I didn't have a problem with it. I wonder what the complainers wanted from it.cainetao11

No plotholes, no last-minute characters which ruin the Reaper myth with idiotic logic, actual continuity, clarification, drastically different endings depending upon your actions from all 3 games.

You know, all the things Bioware promised.

[QUOTE="Peredith"]

[QUOTE="Senor_Kami"]

It didn't ruin it for me. I loved the game. The ending wasn't good, but it wasn't any dumber or more nonsensical than stuff like 2001 A Space Odyssey and it certainly wasn't the dumbest video game ending I've seen. Not by a long shot.

texasgoldrush

It's the most dumbest ending to any piece of medium ever created.

[spoiler] Artificial Intelligence that surpasses the Technological Singularity becomes unpredictable, so the Catalyst claiming it'll wipe out all organic life, and is the reason why it created the Reapers to destroy all advanced organic life to prevent them from creating synthetic life, is the dumbest piece of logic I've ever heard in my life.

Synthetic life has never wiped out all organic life, so claiming it will inevitably happen is dumb logic.

What was the Catalyst, by the way? An AI? Why hasn't it tried to wipe out all organic life? Or was it a supernatural being in a Universe grounded in the Evolution Theory?

Why does the Solution stop working because Shepard managed to meet it?

Why are the Crucible controls built into the Citadel?

If the Catalyst could merge all organic and synthetic life together, preventing synthetics wiping out all organic life, why didn't they do that in the first place?

Why didn't they create simpler methods to stop synthetic life from killing all organic life? Why not create huge EMP devices inside the Mass Relays, as a killswitch to shutdown all synthetic life in the galaxy?

Why do the Reapers interfere with evolution, and why do they help organic life rapidly advance to the technological stage which will be organic lifes demise? How do they know that in a new cycle, organic life may not create Artifical Intelligent, but find another way to evolve? [/spoiler]

:|

Mass Effect 3s ending makes both Mass Effect 1 and 2 irrelevent.

[spoiler] Why couldn't the Catalyst send the signal to the Reapers in Dark Space? What was the point of the Collectors arc? Also, why did the Reapers move the Citadel to Earth at the end of ME3, instead of shutting down all Mass Relays, isolate the entire galaxy, and preventing the Crucible from connecting to the Citadel? [/spoiler]

:|

That's just the tip of the iceberg. There's so many things wrong with the ending, it's shocking. I could go into detail but I've discussed this 1000 of times and I'm tired of it.

How the f*** does synthesis work exactly? so a green laser beam goes out and magically transforms billions upon billions of organic and synthetic organisms into a singular new organism, so what the stupid starchild is God now?

If the starchild lives on the citadel, and controlls the reapers why doesn"t he just open the citadel for them ...and before you say ""coz it was sabotaged by the protheans let me me stop you right therebecause thats stupid...the starchild is capable of doing what he did in my first question (synthesis) meaning he has God like powers but at the same time is incapable of fixing a problem created by simply puny organics.

[QUOTE="Peredith"]

[QUOTE="Senor_Kami"]

It didn't ruin it for me. I loved the game. The ending wasn't good, but it wasn't any dumber or more nonsensical than stuff like 2001 A Space Odyssey and it certainly wasn't the dumbest video game ending I've seen. Not by a long shot.

texasgoldrush

It's the most dumbest ending to any piece of medium ever created.

[spoiler] Artificial Intelligence that surpasses the Technological Singularity becomes unpredictable, so the Catalyst claiming it'll wipe out all organic life, and is the reason why it created the Reapers to destroy all advanced organic life to prevent them from creating synthetic life, is the dumbest piece of logic I've ever heard in my life.

Synthetic life has never wiped out all organic life, so claiming it will inevitably happen is dumb logic.

What was the Catalyst, by the way? An AI? Why hasn't it tried to wipe out all organic life? Or was it a supernatural being in a Universe grounded in the Evolution Theory?

Why does the Solution stop working because Shepard managed to meet it?

Why are the Crucible controls built into the Citadel?

If the Catalyst could merge all organic and synthetic life together, preventing synthetics wiping out all organic life, why didn't they do that in the first place?

Why didn't they create simpler methods to stop synthetic life from killing all organic life? Why not create huge EMP devices inside the Mass Relays, as a killswitch to shutdown all synthetic life in the galaxy?

Why do the Reapers interfere with evolution, and why do they help organic life rapidly advance to the technological stage which will be organic lifes demise? How do they know that in a new cycle, organic life may not create Artifical Intelligent, but find another way to evolve? [/spoiler]

:|

Mass Effect 3s ending makes both Mass Effect 1 and 2 irrelevent.

[spoiler] Why couldn't the Catalyst send the signal to the Reapers in Dark Space? What was the point of the Collectors arc? Also, why did the Reapers move the Citadel to Earth at the end of ME3, instead of shutting down all Mass Relays, isolate the entire galaxy, and preventing the Crucible from connecting to the Citadel? [/spoiler]

:|

That's just the tip of the iceberg. There's so many things wrong with the ending, it's shocking. I could go into detail but I've discussed this 1000 of times and I'm tired of it.

[spoiler] 1. The Protheans sabotaged the Keepers to not send the signal to Dark Space, not the Citadel.

2. The Collector arc was entirely pointless in my opinion. You can go from Mass Effect 1 to Mass Effect 3 to continue the main plot.

3. So why are the Crucibles controls built into the Citadel? Saying "The Crucible changed me" doesn't explain anything. How did it change it? What is a "Being of Light"? A cheap Deus Ex Machina?

4. The Klencory codex entry about the Being of Light was obviously a reference to a VI (Vigil?) warning us about the Reapers invasion (Machine Devils). Unless you're implying the only foreshadowing of the Being of Light was an obscure codex entry from Mass Effect 1?

5. Rogue AI threatening to taking over the galaxy =/= will wipe out all organic life.

The Catalysts Solution is so farfetched, it's borderline troll logic.

And you never explained how the Solution stopped working because Shepard managed to meet the Catalyst (even though Shepard is practically dead before the Catalyst beams him up with that magical elevator.)

Why doesn't the Catalyst ignore Shepard and continue the cycle?

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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

I've never seen such a massive biodrone defender of ME3 like this...or any game for that matter. It takes some serious dedication like texas here to actually type so much BS about a poorly designed game and actually believe it, so much so to go and call people's opinions as 'wrong.' What a waste of molecules. Claims ME2's end has no variety, and praises ME3 as being dynamic......I don't know whether to laugh or cry

texasgoldrush

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Peredith"]

It's the most dumbest ending to any piece of medium ever created.

[spoiler] Artificial Intelligence that surpasses the Technological Singularity becomes unpredictable, so the Catalyst claiming it'll wipe out all organic life, and is the reason why it created the Reapers to destroy all advanced organic life to prevent them from creating synthetic life, is the dumbest piece of logic I've ever heard in my life.

Synthetic life has never wiped out all organic life, so claiming it will inevitably happen is dumb logic.

What was the Catalyst, by the way? An AI? Why hasn't it tried to wipe out all organic life? Or was it a supernatural being in a Universe grounded in the Evolution Theory?

Why does the Solution stop working because Shepard managed to meet it?

Why are the Crucible controls built into the Citadel?

If the Catalyst could merge all organic and synthetic life together, preventing synthetics wiping out all organic life, why didn't they do that in the first place?

Why didn't they create simpler methods to stop synthetic life from killing all organic life? Why not create huge EMP devices inside the Mass Relays, as a killswitch to shutdown all synthetic life in the galaxy?

Why do the Reapers interfere with evolution, and why do they help organic life rapidly advance to the technological stage which will be organic lifes demise? How do they know that in a new cycle, organic life may not create Artifical Intelligent, but find another way to evolve? [/spoiler]

:|

Mass Effect 3s ending makes both Mass Effect 1 and 2 irrelevent.

[spoiler] Why couldn't the Catalyst send the signal to the Reapers in Dark Space? What was the point of the Collectors arc? Also, why did the Reapers move the Citadel to Earth at the end of ME3, instead of shutting down all Mass Relays, isolate the entire galaxy, and preventing the Crucible from connecting to the Citadel? [/spoiler]

:|

That's just the tip of the iceberg. There's so many things wrong with the ending, it's shocking. I could go into detail but I've discussed this 1000 of times and I'm tired of it.

musalala

How the f*** does synthesis work exactly? so a green laser beam goes out and magically transforms billions upon billions of organic and synthetic organisms into a singular new organism, so what the stupid starchild is God now?

If the starchild lives on the citadel, and controlls the reapers why doesn"t he just open the citadel for them ...and before you say ""coz it was sabotaged by the protheans let me me stop you right therebecause thats stupid...the starchild is capable of doing what he did in my first question (synthesis) meaning he has God like powers but at the same time is incapable of fixing a problem created by simply puny organics.

A Deus Ex Machine and some good ol'

:P

People actually defending the ending...

I really wish they stuck with the original Dark Energy story, it would have been infinitely better, and it'd actually fit in with the rest of the series. The Dark Energy theme would be relevant, the Haestrom Sun would be relevant, the reason the Collectors were harvesting humans early would be relevant.

Instead we get some random new theme at the last 10 minutes comparable to Terminator with Space Magic.

And don't get me started on the Starchild's circular logic. The Reapers (Synthetics) don't want Organics to be killed by Synthetics, so Synthetics (Reapers) kill Organics so Organics aren't killed by Synthetics.

Not to mention this can come straight after reconciling the Geth and Quarians. So the galaxy can be more or less united, Organic and Synthetic, fighting against Synthetics, who want to kill Organic and Synthetic life so Synthetics don't kill Organics... what?

I really wish they stuck with the original Dark Energy story, it would have been infinitely better, and it'd actually fit in with the rest of the series. The Dark Energy theme would be relevant, the Haestrom Sun would be relevant, the reason the Collectors were harvesting humans early would be relevant.

Instead we get some random new theme at the last 10 minutes comparable to Terminator with Space Magic.

And don't get me started on the Starchild's circular logic. The Reapers (Synthetics) don't want Organics to be killed by Synthetics, so Synthetics (Reapers) kill Organics so Organics aren't killed by Synthetics.

Not to mention this can come straight after reconciling the geth and Quarians. So the galaxy can be more or less united, organic and synthetic, fighting against synthetics, who want to kill ('preserve') organic and synthetic life so synthetics don't kill organics... what?

MobilechicaneX

God...that starchild needs to just be removed compltely from the end..he is just stupid on so many levels.

Drew Karpyshyn should have stayed as lead writer for mass effect 3, I will never understand why they forced him to work on The old republic in the first place.

I really wish they stuck with the original Dark Energy story, it would have been infinitely better, and it'd actually fit in with the rest of the series. The Dark Energy theme would be relevant, the Haestrom Sun would be relevant, the reason the Collectors were harvesting humans early would be relevant.

Instead we get some random new theme at the last 10 minutes comparable to Terminator with Space Magic.

And don't get me started on the Starchild's circular logic. The Reapers (Synthetics) don't want Organics to be killed by Synthetics, so Synthetics (Reapers) kill Organics so Organics aren't killed by Synthetics.

Not to mention this can come straight after reconciling the Geth and Quarians. So the galaxy can be more or less united, Organic and Synthetic, fighting against Synthetics, who want to kill Organic and Synthetic life so Synthetics don't kill Organics... what?

MobilechicaneX

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Peredith"]

It's the most dumbest ending to any piece of medium ever created.

[spoiler] Artificial Intelligence that surpasses the Technological Singularity becomes unpredictable, so the Catalyst claiming it'll wipe out all organic life, and is the reason why it created the Reapers to destroy all advanced organic life to prevent them from creating synthetic life, is the dumbest piece of logic I've ever heard in my life.

Synthetic life has never wiped out all organic life, so claiming it will inevitably happen is dumb logic.

What was the Catalyst, by the way? An AI? Why hasn't it tried to wipe out all organic life? Or was it a supernatural being in a Universe grounded in the Evolution Theory?

Why does the Solution stop working because Shepard managed to meet it?

Why are the Crucible controls built into the Citadel?

If the Catalyst could merge all organic and synthetic life together, preventing synthetics wiping out all organic life, why didn't they do that in the first place?

Why didn't they create simpler methods to stop synthetic life from killing all organic life? Why not create huge EMP devices inside the Mass Relays, as a killswitch to shutdown all synthetic life in the galaxy?

Why do the Reapers interfere with evolution, and why do they help organic life rapidly advance to the technological stage which will be organic lifes demise? How do they know that in a new cycle, organic life may not create Artifical Intelligent, but find another way to evolve? [/spoiler]

:|

Mass Effect 3s ending makes both Mass Effect 1 and 2 irrelevent.

[spoiler] Why couldn't the Catalyst send the signal to the Reapers in Dark Space? What was the point of the Collectors arc? Also, why did the Reapers move the Citadel to Earth at the end of ME3, instead of shutting down all Mass Relays, isolate the entire galaxy, and preventing the Crucible from connecting to the Citadel? [/spoiler]

:|

That's just the tip of the iceberg. There's so many things wrong with the ending, it's shocking. I could go into detail but I've discussed this 1000 of times and I'm tired of it.

Peredith

[spoiler] 1. The Protheans sabotaged the Keepers to not send the signal to Dark Space, not the Citadel.

2. The Collector arc was entirely pointless in my opinion. You can go from Mass Effect 1 to Mass Effect 3 to continue the main plot.

3. So why are the Crucibles controls built into the Citadel? Saying "The Crucible changed me" doesn't explain anything. How did it change it? What is a "Being of Light"? A cheap Deus Ex Machina?

4. The Klencory codex entry about the Being of Light was obviously a reference to a VI (Vigil?) warning us about the Reapers invasion (Machine Devils). Unless you're implying the only foreshadowing of the Being of Light was an obscure codex entry from Mass Effect 1?

5. Rogue AI threatening to taking over the galaxy =/= will wipe out all organic life.

The Catalysts Solution is so farfetched, it's borderline troll logic.

And you never explained how the Solution stopped working because Shepard managed to meet the Catalyst (even though Shepard is practically dead before the Catalyst beams him up with that magical elevator.)

Why doesn't the Catalyst ignore Shepard and continue the cycle?

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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="wis3boi"]

I've never seen such a massive biodrone defender of ME3 like this...or any game for that matter. It takes some serious dedication like texas here to actually type so much BS about a poorly designed game and actually believe it, so much so to go and call people's opinions as 'wrong.' What a waste of molecules. Claims ME2's end has no variety, and praises ME3 as being dynamic......I don't know whether to laugh or cry

wis3boi

I was going to play through the entire series again but honestly after that ending I couldn't be arsed and went to go play other games with better pay offs. I like the series still and 3 was a good game for the most part but yeah the ending really hurt the series in my eyes since it basically invalidates the over arching plot with one of the dumbest pay offs I can remember in gaming. I mean Christ a jrpg from 2 years ago had a very, very similar plot twist and actually did it considerably better so not only was the ending awful but actually ripped off another work a little.Ace6301

I was going to play through the entire series again but honestly after that ending I couldn't be arsed and went to go play other games with better pay offs. I like the series still and 3 was a good game for the most part but yeah the ending really hurt the series in my eyes since it basically invalidates the over arching plot with one of the dumbest pay offs I can remember in gaming. I mean Christ a jrpg from 2 years ago had a very, very similar plot twist and actually did it considerably better so not only was the ending awful but actually ripped off another work a little.Ace6301

[QUOTE="Ace6301"]I was going to play through the entire series again but honestly after that ending I couldn't be arsed and went to go play other games with better pay offs. I like the series still and 3 was a good game for the most part but yeah the ending really hurt the series in my eyes since it basically invalidates the over arching plot with one of the dumbest pay offs I can remember in gaming. I mean Christ a jrpg from 2 years ago had a very, very similar plot twist and actually did it considerably better so not only was the ending awful but actually ripped off another work a little.wis3boi

[QUOTE="Ace6301"]I was going to play through the entire series again but honestly after that ending I couldn't be arsed and went to go play other games with better pay offs. I like the series still and 3 was a good game for the most part but yeah the ending really hurt the series in my eyes since it basically invalidates the over arching plot with one of the dumbest pay offs I can remember in gaming. I mean Christ a jrpg from 2 years ago had a very, very similar plot twist and actually did it considerably better so not only was the ending awful but actually ripped off another work a little.texasgoldrush

[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="Ace6301"]I was going to play through the entire series again but honestly after that ending I couldn't be arsed and went to go play other games with better pay offs. I like the series still and 3 was a good game for the most part but yeah the ending really hurt the series in my eyes since it basically invalidates the over arching plot with one of the dumbest pay offs I can remember in gaming. I mean Christ a jrpg from 2 years ago had a very, very similar plot twist and actually did it considerably better so not only was the ending awful but actually ripped off another work a little.Ace6301

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Ace6301"]I was going to play through the entire series again but honestly after that ending I couldn't be arsed and went to go play other games with better pay offs. I like the series still and 3 was a good game for the most part but yeah the ending really hurt the series in my eyes since it basically invalidates the over arching plot with one of the dumbest pay offs I can remember in gaming. I mean Christ a jrpg from 2 years ago had a very, very similar plot twist and actually did it considerably better so not only was the ending awful but actually ripped off another work a little.Ace6301