Mass Effect Impressions

You should play KoTOR. It'll probably be a mirror image in many respects. It'll also probably tell you if you'll like this game (I'm sure it doesn't stray far from their style of game)Dreams-Visions

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[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Oh, and folks, when you see the grainy effect when you first play, don't worry, your TV isn't dying. It's a little effect Bioware put in, which can be turned off in the options menu.musicalmac

ya, I turned that off.

Same here.

Its film grain, but to me it just looks like noise.

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[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Oh, and folks, when you see the grainy effect when you first play, don't worry, your TV isn't dying. It's a little effect Bioware put in, which can be turned off in the options menu.musicalmac

ya, I turned that off.

Same here.

It looks better without it.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Zero5000X"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]i might just wait for the PS3 version.Zero5000X

There IS no PS3 version, and there never will be. MS owns the rights to the first ME.

No, BioWare owns the rights to Mass Effect and EA will own them as of January. EA or Sony could just publish the PS3 version. you know how EA is, they love multiplats.

I'm sorry, but MS owns the rights to the first ME. They Published it,a fter all. It's stated in all the articles. EA will Publish any Bioware games AFTER it, and THAT is when they will own the rights to the games.

MS doesnt own the rights to Mass Effect.

It does to ME1. and they'll probably negotiate a deal for 2 and 3 if ME1's sales are brisk.

So has it been established that Game Informer saying, about Mass Effect, that:

[quote="Game Informer"]Not since Star Wars made its theatrical debut in 1977 has there been a universe so full of wonder and awe.Zeliard9

is NOT, in fact, an exaggeration at all?

Not in the slightest. There is enough substance in ME to fill multiple media outlets. I want books, I want movies, I want comics, I want tv cartoon series, THIS is our moment!

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]You should play KoTOR. It'll probably be a mirror image in many respects. It'll also probably tell you if you'll like this game (I'm sure it doesn't stray far from their style of game)Forza_2

Honestly, you never know what the planet will be until you get there. For example, one planet I went to was just a desert that some troops were tricked into going to. You find them all dead, and suddenly you are attacked by a sand worm thingy. On this level, you are using a vehicle. Ive also noticed many planets I cant land on because of the atmosphere.

kevy619

Thanks! Just trying to get an idea of the scale of the game outside of the main quest.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]You should play KoTOR. It'll probably be a mirror image in many respects. It'll also probably tell you if you'll like this game (I'm sure it doesn't stray far from their style of game)Forza_2

Classes as well. That style of game doesn't cater to everyone.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]You should play KoTOR. It'll probably be a mirror image in many respects. It'll also probably tell you if you'll like this game (I'm sure it doesn't stray far from their style of game)Forza_2

I dont completely agree. I think the combat takes what KOTOR started, and improves it tenfold. Its also feels much less like the game is playing itself.

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[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Oh, and folks, when you see the grainy effect when you first play, don't worry, your TV isn't dying. It's a little effect Bioware put in, which can be turned off in the options menu.musicalmac

ya, I turned that off.

Same here.

I honestly have no clue what the point was with that. If it was a spoof of old sci-fi fliks, then I could see why, but...

[QUOTE="Laughlin_12"][QUOTE="kevy619"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Oh, and folks, when you see the grainy effect when you first play, don't worry, your TV isn't dying. It's a little effect Bioware put in, which can be turned off in the options menu.musicalmac

ya, I turned that off.

Same here.

I honestly have no clue what the point was with that. If it was a spoof of old sci-fi fliks, then I could see why, but...

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]You should play KoTOR. It'll probably be a mirror image in many respects. It'll also probably tell you if you'll like this game (I'm sure it doesn't stray far from their style of game)musicalmac

It has the same setup...but the characters seem to be more emotional and reactive to your responses in conversation. at least, that's the gist I've gotten.

[QUOTE="kevy619"]

Honestly, you never know what the planet will be until you get there. For example, one planet I went to was just a desert that some troops were tricked into going to. You find them all dead, and suddenly you are attacked by a sand worm thingy. On this level, you are using a vehicle. Ive also noticed many planets I cant land on because of the atmosphere.

blue_hazy_basic

Thanks! Just trying to get an idea of the scale of the game outside of the main quest.

No problem, another thing is you dont feel like something is the main quest and something else isnt. You are trying to find things out, and you have to explore to get answers.

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]You should play KoTOR. It'll probably be a mirror image in many respects. It'll also probably tell you if you'll like this game (I'm sure it doesn't stray far from their style of game)musicalmac

Negative. You can now interrupt people mid-scentence, there are more options available, and the sheer NUMBER of branches in the dialogue trees make KotOR's dialog system look like a complete and total joke.

I was under the impression the dialogue system was totally redone, to make it more interactive. Was I lied to :shock:musicalmac

[QUOTE="Zero5000X"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Zero5000X"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]i might just wait for the PS3 version.Verge_6

There IS no PS3 version, and there never will be. MS owns the rights to the first ME.

No, BioWare owns the rights to Mass Effect and EA will own them as of January. EA or Sony could just publish the PS3 version. you know how EA is, they love multiplats.

I'm sorry, but MS owns the rights to the first ME. They Published it,a fter all. It's stated in all the articles. EA will Publish any Bioware games AFTER it, and THAT is when they will own the rights to the games.

MS doesnt own the rights to Mass Effect.

...You DO know that that is what Publishers do, right? :|

Mass Effect Sigma

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]You should play KoTOR. It'll probably be a mirror image in many respects. It'll also probably tell you if you'll like this game (I'm sure it doesn't stray far from their style of game)Dreams-Visions

It has the same setup...but the characters seem to be more emotional and reactive to your responses in conversation. at least, that's the gist I've gotten.

The conversation wheel makes choosing a response much quicker.

Negative. You can now interrupt people mid-scentence, there are more options available, and the sheer NUMBER of branches in the dialogue trees make KotOR's dialog system look like a complete and total joke.

Verge_6

Erm... it is improved. But it's still similar how things work on KOTOR.
Forza_2

I dont completely agree. I think the combat takes what KOTOR started, and improves it tenfold. Its also feels much less like the game is playing itself. kevy619

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]You should play KoTOR. It'll probably be a mirror image in many respects. It'll also probably tell you if you'll like this game (I'm sure it doesn't stray far from their style of game)kevy619

It has the same setup...but the characters seem to be more emotional and reactive to your responses in conversation. at least, that's the gist I've gotten.

The conversation wheel makes choosing a response much quicker.

You guys are talking about the details of how things work.

I'm saying if you like Bioware's style--which carries certainly characteristics and similarities through just about all of their games--then you'll like Mass Effect. Their approach to classes. Their approach to wandering around. Their approach to graphics. That stuff.

If you're not a fan of KoTOR, you probably won't be a fan of Mass Effect.

[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="Forza_2"]

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]You should play KoTOR. It'll probably be a mirror image in many respects. It'll also probably tell you if you'll like this game (I'm sure it doesn't stray far from their style of game)Verge_6

Negative. You can now interrupt people mid-scentence, there are more options available, and the sheer NUMBER of branches in the dialogue trees make KotOR's dialog system look like a complete and total joke.

Is there any effect that comes from interrupting people before they can finish talking, other than basically skipping what they have to say? Basically what I'm asking is, is there any reason to interrupt someone other than for cinematic reasons, like the pure entertainment in seeing Shepherd telling someone to shut up mid-sentence? Does it affect how they feel about you or anything? Obviously this is no big deal at all either way, but I'm just curious.

*looks at www.game.co.uk *... 8 more days... 8 MORE DAYS!... EIGHT MORE DAYS!!!........:CRY:

*slowly closes the page whilst wheeping...*

Is there any effect that comes from interrupting people before they can finish talking

Zeliard9

You guys are talking about the details of how things work.

I'm saying if you like Bioware's style--which carries certainly characteristics and similarities through just about all of their games--then you'll like Mass Effect. Their approach to classes. Their approach to wandering around. Their approach to graphics. That stuff.

If you're not a fan of KoTOR, you probably won't be a fan of Mass Effect.Dreams-Visions

I think the approach to combat is quite different. I've heard many people say that Mass Effect's combat is like GRAW with biotic powers.

If you're not a fan of KoTOR, you probably won't be a fan of Mass Effect.Dreams-Visions

Though, the thing is, I almost really liked KotOr, so if thisgame is better than, it should be okay.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="Forza_2"]

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]You should play KoTOR. It'll probably be a mirror image in many respects. It'll also probably tell you if you'll like this game (I'm sure it doesn't stray far from their style of game)Zeliard9

Negative. You can now interrupt people mid-scentence, there are more options available, and the sheer NUMBER of branches in the dialogue trees make KotOR's dialog system look like a complete and total joke.

Is there any effect that comes from interrupting people before they can finish talking, other than basically skipping what they have to say? Basically what I'm asking is, is there any reason to interrupt someone other than for cinematic reasons, like the pure entertainment in seeing Shepherd telling someone to shut up mid-sentence? Does it affect how they feel about you or anything? Obviously this is no big deal at all either way, but I'm just curious.

They'll become more agressive, if not angry. Sometimes, using agressive interruptions can get you places. For instance, when I had to deal with some drunkard in a strip club who wouldn't divulge info I wanted, I had to use said 'aggression' while he was talking. And by agression, I mean putting a pistol to his forehead.

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[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Oh, and folks, when you see the grainy effect when you first play, don't worry, your TV isn't dying. It's a little effect Bioware put in, which can be turned off in the options menu.Verge_6

ya, I turned that off.

Same here.

I honestly have no clue what the point was with that. If it was a spoof of old sci-fi fliks, then I could see why, but...

It was left as an option in the final build because they felt it gave the game a more cinematic feel.

That's what I wanted to hear ;)musicalmac

me want. how did you all get a copy so early?clone01

The idiocy of K-mart employees is something one can easily exploit. *steeples fingers*

me want. how did you all get a copy so early?clone01

[QUOTE="Zeliard9"]Is there any effect that comes from interrupting people before they can finish talking, other than basically skipping what they have to say? Basically what I'm asking is, is there any reason to interrupt someone other than for cinematic reasons, like the pure entertainment in seeing Shepherd telling someone to shut up mid-sentence? Does it affect how they feel about you or anything? Obviously this is no big deal at all either way, but I'm just curious.

Verge_6

They'll become more agressive, if not angry. Sometimes, using agressive interruptions can get you places. For instance, when I had to deal with some drunkard in a strip club who wouldn't divulge info I wanted, I had to use said 'aggression' while he was talking. And by agression, I mean putting a pistol to his forehead.

:lol:

To interrupt someone like that would be awesome. I can so easily picture it. They'll just start babbling, and you pick the aggression option while they're still talking, and Shepherd just interrupts them by suddenly putting a gun to their head.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]If you're not a fan of KoTOR, you probably won't be a fan of Mass Effect.Jandurin

Though, the thing is, I almost really liked KotOr, so if thisgame is better than, it should be okay.

I'm sure the combat is awesome...so if combat was your concern, you'll probably be a really happy camper. Now, if you were put off by the approach to dialogue or the class-based approach to character creation, then you might have a different opinion in the end.

But gameplay probably shouldn't be anyone's concern.

No problem, another thing is you dont feel like something is the main quest and something else isnt. You are trying to find things out, and you have to explore to get answers.kevy619

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]If you're not a fan of KoTOR, you probably won't be a fan of Mass Effect.Dreams-Visions

Though, the thing is, I almost really liked KotOr, so if thisgame is better than, it should be okay.

I'm sure the combat is awesome...so if combat was your concern, you'll probably be a really happy camper. Now, if you were put off by the approach to dialogue or the class-based approach to character creation, then you might have a different opinion in the end.

But gameplay probably shouldn't be anyone's concern.

As fanboyish as it sounds, the game sounds pretty perfect all-around. :P I'm not sure if any aspect of the game should be anyone's concern, honestly, unless they just don't dig RPGs. I actually have heard complaining from one person who supposedly also already has ME, who said that there is "too much dialogue". Take that for what it's worth. I don't think it's worth very much.

I'm sure the combat is awesome...so if combat was your concern, you'll probably be a really happy camper. Now, if you were put off by the approach to dialogue or the class-based approach to character creation, then you might have a different opinion in the end.

But gameplay probably shouldn't be anyone's concern.

Dreams-Visions

Yeah, I'm not worried about the gun sequences, they look good. And, I'm sure there's a decently developed levelling system and story.

All that's left is for me to worry about how we go about getting quests... if that is good, then I'll love it.

"too much dialogue"Zeliard9

I think that person might be playing the wrong genre :roll:

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]If you're not a fan of KoTOR, you probably won't be a fan of Mass Effect.Zeliard9

Though, the thing is, I almost really liked KotOr, so if thisgame is better than, it should be okay.

I'm sure the combat is awesome...so if combat was your concern, you'll probably be a really happy camper. Now, if you were put off by the approach to dialogue or the class-based approach to character creation, then you might have a different opinion in the end.

But gameplay probably shouldn't be anyone's concern.

As fanboyish as it sounds, the game sounds pretty perfect all-around. :P I'm not sure if any aspect of the game should be anyone's concern, honestly, unless they just don't dig RPGs. I actually have heard complaining from one person who supposedly also already has ME, who said that there is "too much dialogue". Take that for what it's worth. I don't think it's worth very much.

You'd be surprised. People that really love JRPGs find WRPGs hard to get into. But maybe Mass Effect will unite teh peoplez!

You'd be surprised. People that really love JRPGs find WRPGs hard to get into. But maybe Mass Effect will unite teh peoplez!Dreams-Visions

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]You'd be surprised. People that really love JRPGs find WRPGs hard to get into. But maybe Mass Effect will unite teh peoplez!Jandurin

I wonder if its because the emphasis is on the gameplay rather than the story itself? (ie no cutscenes)

I wonder if its because the emphasis is on the gameplay rather than the story itself? (ie no cutscenes)blue_hazy_basic

You can move around in cutscenes in this game, right? Or am I thinking of AC?

i might just wait for the PS3 version.Zero5000X

Well that is what you cows do well anyway is to Wait so you just go ahead and do that. Sony realy have you guys brainwashed. I almost fell bad for you.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Zero5000X"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]i might just wait for the PS3 version.Zero5000X

There IS no PS3 version, and there never will be. MS owns the rights to the first ME.

No, BioWare owns the rights to Mass Effect and EA will own them as of January. EA or Sony could just publish the PS3 version. you know how EA is, they love multiplats.

I'm sorry, but MS owns the rights to the first ME. They Published it,a fter all. It's stated in all the articles. EA will Publish any Bioware games AFTER it, and THAT is when they will own the rights to the games.

MS doesnt own the rights to Mass Effect.

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[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]i might just wait for the PS3 version.Zero5000X

PS3 fanboys do love waiting....

Story of their lives.

It wont come, maybe a pc version in 2-3 years...

just like the PS3 version of Bioshock would never come?

Uh...it isn't coming

[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]i might just wait for the PS3 version.Verge_6

There IS no PS3 version, and there never will be. MS owns the rights to the first ME.

Verge: Riddle me this: how does levelling work?

I just had a mini-brainstorm session, and a large portion of my enjoyment of RPGs resides in my fanatical obsession with gaining new levels. How do you gain experience? And how do you use that experience to make your guy stronger? Are there base upgrades given your person as well as points that you distribute into specific skills? Are there skill trees?