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I see no reason why the ME trilogy not going to PS3 cannot be claimed as ownage, and, as such, I hereby claim said ownage.
jethrovegas
[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]they are having problems getting to the 360
http://www.siliconera.com/2008/07/14/more-on-multiplatform-final-fantasy-xiii/
right now it's on the pc ready and working to go
CaseyWegner
where does it say that?
herehttp://www.finalfantasyxiii.net/
there is another website that goes into detail about the problem
[QUOTE="Flamestos"]Verge_6
"Console exclusive" isn't a term I've ever seen used in real life.
What does you having seen it in use or not have to do with it?
Okay, let me put it like this even if someone brought this to me in real life just like here I'd still discount it.
Of course I agree with Logic - however, what you find here concerning this debate is, twist ones self into a state of Circular Logic that only ends with even more semantics then you can Waggle a stick at. :twisted:Look, we all know that, logically speaking, a game that is available on the PC and the 360 cannot be considered an "exclusive".
However, be that as it may, we should still consider the ramifications of games that are in that position not being on other platforms like PS3 or Wii.
Yes, by SW rules, games like ME and GeoW cannot be used as exclusives; but, simply looking at it from a logical real world standpoint, these games not being on PS3 is meaningful when examining the war between the 360 and PS3 specifically.
With that as the case, I see no reason why the ME trilogy not going to PS3 cannot be claimed as ownage, and, as such, I hereby claim said ownage.
jethrovegas
By the way both the ps3 and 360 console will be out date this year by the pc once the new hard ware comes. The pc graphics is already there
[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]I see no reason why the ME trilogy not going to PS3 cannot be claimed as ownage, and, as such, I hereby claim said ownage.
DireToad
Well I disagree with those who are calling it an exclusive (it is not), but I also take issue with those that are running around, mindlessly shouting "teh multiplat!" and ignoring the real world ramifcations of games like ME not appearing on the PS3.
Both sides are wrong.
[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Flamestos"]Flamestos
"Console exclusive" isn't a term I've ever seen used in real life.
What does you having seen it in use or not have to do with it?
Okay, let me put it like this even if someone brought this to me in real life just like here I'd still discount it.
Yes, I believe you have established that multiple times. So why does that mean that the term 'console exclusive' shouldn't exist outside of this board as well as in it? You won't think it does, but the relativity of the term to you and your opinion is what is keeping you from saying that it does, in fact, exist. The term may have a different relativity to others.
[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]the pc and the 360 are not the same thing. they are two different platforms. if it's on more than one platform, it's not exclusive. it's multiplatform.
Gesyma
without Microsoft you can't play the game.
[QUOTE="Gesyma"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]the pc and the 360 are not the same thing. they are two different platforms. if it's on more than one platform, it's not exclusive. it's multiplatform.
DireToad
haha. okay man.
without Microsoft you can't play the game.
haha. okay man.
[QUOTE="Trelaf_TheWise"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]CONSOLE E X C L U S I V E
marklarmer
aka multiplatform
Who decides THAT? Not that I disagree or anything but how the hell are we supposed to determine what it is when everyone has their own definition?
if i remember there was a SW vote, where people who hate the 360 wanted to remove gears, bioshock and ME from any 360 game lists.
That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. No one cares about the PC on SW. There are hardly any topics that include the PC. Removing those games was pointless, I remember playing each one of them on my 360:? There is such thing as a console exclusive, doesn't matter if SW refuses to recognize them or not.
[QUOTE="Flamestos"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Flamestos"]Verge_6
"Console exclusive" isn't a term I've ever seen used in real life.
What does you having seen it in use or not have to do with it?
Okay, let me put it like this even if someone brought this to me in real life just like here I'd still discount it.
Yes, I believe you have established that multiple times. So why does that mean that the term 'console exclusive' shouldn't exist outside of this board as well as in it? You won't think it does, but the relativity of the term to you and your opinion is what is keeping you from saying that it does, in fact, exist. The term may have a different relativity to others.
If people choose to follow that term for themselves then so be it.
Yeah, okay console exclusive... whatever. I'm not trying to get points on anyone or anything, I'm just reporting the news to you guys cause I thought it was interesting... don't shoot the messenger. Gesyma
Glad you posted it, myself! I now know the game I am most looking forward to in '09. :D
and yet it was sparsely discussed until gears went to the PC, after that its been used constantly to discredit the 360s best games.
marklarmer
that is also a lie. I remember the term "console exclusive" ever since I joined. hell, I even remember when lemmings would count games they shared with (just) the PS2 as "next-gen exclusives."
[QUOTE="Gesyma"]Not sure how credible this is but I thought I'd pass on the information.
Linkage.
NWA_31
I honestly doubt it, The 360 is already in the middle of its lifespan and Mass Effect 2 has yet to be even announced. The third game has to be on the next Xbox.
If Microsoft keeps the 360 around to 2011/2012 is definitely possible. Mass Effect 2 will come in 2009.
[QUOTE="Flamestos"][QUOTE="ragek1ll589"]Console exclusive, since it does appear on PC.Aljosa23
There's no such thing as a console exclusive.
Outside of System Wars there is such thing, whether you agree on it or not. I agree. I think it is funny how some act like console exclusives do not matter just because your not allowed to talk about it on this forum. In the real world they matter very much.[QUOTE="Gesyma"]Yeah, okay console exclusive... whatever. I'm not trying to get points on anyone or anything, I'm just reporting the news to you guys cause I thought it was interesting... don't shoot the messenger. JediRiff
Glad you posted it, myself! I now know the game I am most looking forward to in '09. :D
thanks man! :D
I fail to see why the operating system on the PC matters at all. The fact of the matter is, you own a PC, you choose not to upgrade it or play games on it. That's fine. It's your choice whether you want to spend the money necessary to make it capable of playing the latest games - just like it's a choice whether you want to put down the cash to buy a 360 or a PS3.
But no, upgrading your PC does not help Xbox 360. If you spend lots of money on Microsoft software products, I suppose you could say you are helping the company. Buying a PSP or PS2 is also 'helping' out Sony. Last I heard, Sony is not competing with Microsoft in the PC operating system business.
Really, it all comes down to what products YOU want. If there's a SCEA game announced to come out for PS3 in the future that sounds great, gets high metacritic reviews, whatever - say God of War 3 - there's only one place you'll be able to play it, PS3. You don't buy the PS3, you miss out on the experience. But if there's a game coming out published by Microsoft Games Studios, there's a good chance it could end up on PC. That's ownage in the sense that a consumer could avoid the 360 altogether if he wanted to. And the advantage of his investment in the PC would be potentially better graphics, controller input, mods, etc. That person would be opting to wait to get what he perceives to be the ultimate experience playing the game.
[QUOTE="thew13"]The console companies use the term,Hewkii
because it aids them.
yea I can wonder how companies feel that they could be making alot more money going multi plat, but they are stock on a console with limited sales I guess they are not out to make money![QUOTE="Aljosa23"][QUOTE="Flamestos"][QUOTE="ragek1ll589"]Console exclusive, since it does appear on PC.rybe1025
There's no such thing as a console exclusive.
Outside of System Wars there is such thing, whether you agree on it or not. I agree. I think it is funny how some act like console exclusives do not matter just because your not allowed to talk about it on this forum. In the real world they matter very much.When people are buying consoles, they dont care if its on pc. They care what has better games PS3 of 360, its not like they are going to say "I heard Gears is on PC it dosent count" There are tons of people who dont have gaming PCs and never will. I have been a console gamer for 20 years. I have yet to really want a gaming Pc.
[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"][QUOTE="Flamestos"][QUOTE="ragek1ll589"]Console exclusive, since it does appear on PC.lolkie_81
There's no such thing as a console exclusive.
Outside of System Wars there is such thing, whether you agree on it or not. I agree. I think it is funny how some act like console exclusives do not matter just because your not allowed to talk about it on this forum. In the real world they matter very much.When people are buying consoles, they dont care if its on pc. They care what has better games PS3 of 360, its not like they are going to say "I heard Gears is on PC it dosent count" There are tons of people who dont have gaming PCs and never will. I have been a console gamer for 20 years. I have yet to really want a gaming Pc.
It aids them because it matters in the 'real world' - so your just proved my argument for me .... thanks
thew13
it aids them in that if they said differently their console wouldn't look as good. it's like why during E3 Nintendo focused on how well its console was selling during a certain time period.
Ok lets take a good look at pc has to offer and there will be more games to come like it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-lLjN-h6Bc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud0yPm31JT8
ok now lets take a good look at what onsole have to offer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GURLCwPn3R4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JdCuoN8fHs
who do you think is being over paid?
Soon the pc will be ready for it's new hard ware!!! there fore they will be better games for pc. Sooon the 360 will not be able to run those games.
You can run spore on 360 can you?
[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"][QUOTE="Flamestos"][QUOTE="ragek1ll589"]Console exclusive, since it does appear on PC.lolkie_81
There's no such thing as a console exclusive.
Outside of System Wars there is such thing, whether you agree on it or not. I agree. I think it is funny how some act like console exclusives do not matter just because your not allowed to talk about it on this forum. In the real world they matter very much.When people are buying consoles, they dont care if its on pc.
read that line.....Console Exclusives do exist....I have more or less switched over to PC gaming but prior to this switch I couldn't have cared less whether a game was on PC or not....Heck, I bet if I asked a couple of my friends whether they liked the PC or Xbox 360 version of Mass Effect better they wouldn't even have known it had been on PC
when people are looking for a CONSOLE game they could care less if it is on PC or not....
[QUOTE="lolkie_81"]That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. No one cares about the PC on SW. There are hardly any topics that include the PC.
Hewkii
that's a lie.
NO its not, I will try and keep track of all the PC treads on SW for the next week. The PC is conviently used, for ownage from cows/hermits or just to jump into a Console graphics tread and plop down Crisis/tread.
[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="lolkie_81"]That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. No one cares about the PC on SW. There are hardly any topics that include the PC.
lolkie_81
that's a lie.
NO its not, I will try and keep track of all the PC treads on SW for the next week. The PC is conviently used, for ownage from cows/hermits or just to jump into a Console graphics tread and plop down Crisis/tread.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rVDEkBhtAospore Pc is ready to turn a new leaf. The 360 and the ps3 is now out dated
[QUOTE="lolkie_81"][QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"][QUOTE="Flamestos"]When people are buying consoles, they dont care if its on pc. They care what has better games PS3 of 360, its not like they are going to say "I heard Gears is on PC it dosent count" There are tons of people who dont have gaming PCs and never will. I have been a console gamer for 20 years. I have yet to really want a gaming Pc.
DireToad
Get a grip, you act as if all PCs can run all the high end games. I know mine cant. Your analogy is WEAK.
[QUOTE="lolkie_81"][QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="lolkie_81"]That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. No one cares about the PC on SW. There are hardly any topics that include the PC.
blackdreamhunk
that's a lie.
NO its not, I will try and keep track of all the PC treads on SW for the next week. The PC is conviently used, for ownage from cows/hermits or just to jump into a Console graphics tread and plop down Crisis/tread.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rVDEkBhtAospore Pc is ready to turn a new leaf. The 360 and the ps3 is now out dated
I have never thought the PC was not more powerful. The 360 and Ps3 ARE dated. I bought a top of the line hd tv 6 months ago and it is dated. Technology moves fast and a console compared to PC is dated in a years time if that. That said, some people game on consoles only, I have owned every console for the last 20 years and no gaming pc.
People have used both "PC is so different" and "PC is MS platform too" arguments, so which is it? Those are pretty much two opposite view points so it sounds to me like lemmings are just desperately clinging onto anything that would give them more exclusives. There is not a single reasonable argument that makes a game on 2 platforms an exclusive, it's like trying to say a triangle is a circle when compared to a square. Anyone backing this "console exclusive" PR talk fails at logic.mr_mozilla
If I am looking for a game on consoles I'm not going to care about the PC....So the only thing that will matter to me is what consoles that particular game is on....if its on ONLY one...then there you have it...Console Exclusive.....
I really don't see what is so hard about this whole concept..
People have used both "PC is so different" and "PC is MS platform too" arguments, so which is it? Those are pretty much two opposite view points so it sounds to me like lemmings are just desperately clinging onto anything that would give them more exclusives. There is not a single reasonable argument that makes a game on 2 platforms an exclusive, it's like trying to say a triangle is a circle when compared to a square. Anyone backing this "console exclusive" PR talk fails at logic.mr_mozilla
Thats not always the case, for me it is games that my ps3 dosent offer, so if I didnt have a 360 I wouldnt be able to play them. I dont know why people dont get that.
[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"][QUOTE="lolkie_81"][QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="lolkie_81"]That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. No one cares about the PC on SW. There are hardly any topics that include the PC.
lolkie_81
that's a lie.
NO its not, I will try and keep track of all the PC treads on SW for the next week. The PC is conviently used, for ownage from cows/hermits or just to jump into a Console graphics tread and plop down Crisis/tread.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rVDEkBhtAospore Pc is ready to turn a new leaf. The 360 and the ps3 is now out dated
I have never thought the PC was not more powerful. The 360 and Ps3 ARE dated. I bought a top of the line hd tv 6 months ago and it is dated. Technology moves fast and a console compared to PC is dated in a years time if that. That said, some people game on consoles only, I have owned every console for the last 20 years and no gaming pc.
what does console have to offer maybe over paid game devs that make rehashed game playPeople have used both "PC is so different" and "PC is MS platform too" arguments, so which is it? Those are pretty much two opposite view points so it sounds to me like lemmings are just desperately clinging onto anything that would give them more exclusives. There is not a single reasonable argument that makes a game on 2 platforms an exclusive, it's like trying to say a triangle is a circle when compared to a square. Anyone backing this "console exclusive" PR talk fails at logic.mr_mozilla
The title of the thread is making this a circus. I should have said PS3 not getting Mass Effect trilogy. I don't really care if PC is getting it or not that wasn't the point... that being said do you know how to edit topic titles?
[QUOTE="DireToad"][QUOTE="lolkie_81"][QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"][QUOTE="Flamestos"]When people are buying consoles, they dont care if its on pc. They care what has better games PS3 of 360, its not like they are going to say "I heard Gears is on PC it dosent count" There are tons of people who dont have gaming PCs and never will. I have been a console gamer for 20 years. I have yet to really want a gaming Pc.
lolkie_81
Get a grip, you act as if all PCs can run all the high end games. I know mine cant. Your analogy is WEAK.
[QUOTE="mr_mozilla"]People have used both "PC is so different" and "PC is MS platform too" arguments, so which is it? Those are pretty much two opposite view points so it sounds to me like lemmings are just desperately clinging onto anything that would give them more exclusives. There is not a single reasonable argument that makes a game on 2 platforms an exclusive, it's like trying to say a triangle is a circle when compared to a square. Anyone backing this "console exclusive" PR talk fails at logic.UnknownSniper65
If I am looking for a game on consoles I'm not going to care about the PC....So the only thing that will matter to me is what consoles that particular game is on....if its on ONLY one...then there you have it...Console Exclusive.....
I really don't see what is so hard about this whole concept..
People get it, they just refuse to see it on SW. There is no logic here. The funny thing is hermits bash the 360 games that go to pc anyway. They act like they are "dumbed down" If MS saw it as hurting the 360 by putting there best games on the pc they wouldnt do it.
[QUOTE="mr_mozilla"]People have used both "PC is so different" and "PC is MS platform too" arguments, so which is it? Those are pretty much two opposite view points so it sounds to me like lemmings are just desperately clinging onto anything that would give them more exclusives. There is not a single reasonable argument that makes a game on 2 platforms an exclusive, it's like trying to say a triangle is a circle when compared to a square. Anyone backing this "console exclusive" PR talk fails at logic.lolkie_81
Thats not always the case, for me it is games that my ps3 dosent offer, so if I didnt have a 360 I wouldnt be able to play them. I dont know why people dont get that.
PC and 360 are different, but they are both Microsoft systems. So it's both. Either you pay MS for windows, or you pay for the 360. It's because they are programmed so simlarily that it makes porting games from one to the other so easy. Mass Effect, Gears 1 and 2, are Microsoft exclusives.[QUOTE="mr_mozilla"]People have used both "PC is so different" and "PC is MS platform too" arguments, so which is it? Those are pretty much two opposite view points so it sounds to me like lemmings are just desperately clinging onto anything that would give them more exclusives. There is not a single reasonable argument that makes a game on 2 platforms an exclusive, it's like trying to say a triangle is a circle when compared to a square. Anyone backing this "console exclusive" PR talk fails at logic.Gesyma
The title of the thread is making this a circus. I should have said PS3 not getting Mass Effect trilogy. I don't really care if PC is getting it or not that wasn't the point... that being said do you know how to edit topic titles?
your going see alot more multi plat that's for sure that page is garbage. If any good company wants to keeps repuation and fan base. EA is know for it's I want money repuation that is out the so that website is garbage.[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="lolkie_81"]That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. No one cares about the PC on SW. There are hardly any topics that include the PC.
lolkie_81
that's a lie.
NO its not, I will try and keep track of all the PC treads on SW for the next week. The PC is conviently used, for ownage from cows/hermits or just to jump into a Console graphics tread and plop down Crisis/tread.
please see do you care for pc gaming
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