MGS Delayed

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

Wow you people are so sad. Trying to use this to bash PS3 owners?

Yeah because other consoles NEVER delay their best games. (Twilight Princess on gamecube? Smash Bros on Wii? Yeah that wasn't delayed or anything. Halo 3 took TWO years into the 360's life to come out.)

You may have noticed all the other games that weren't delayed. Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, Ratchet and Clank, and Uncharted.

Javy03

LOL yea and look at the 1 billion they had to spend because they rushed their console. Mass Effect, Bioshock, Too Human all got delayed as well. Heck every system has delays. Most likly the case is that after Konami got feedback fromt he demo they had been showing at different events, they are more then likly fixing any issues and adding things they think might increase the games success based off of feedback.

Quick question. Did M$ have to get SUED before they offered this warrenty? Or did they do like Sony and pretend there was not a problem? :shock:

[QUOTE="trollop_scat"]

Hahaha who else remembers that early trailer for the game that had the 2008 date slashed to read 07 instead :D

Metal Gear devs will never make another PS3 title again...

BambooBanger

Amusing.

I love the way Cows are palming this off as if it doesn't matter, when most of the bovine filling this thread full of Methane were running around saying that MGS4 will be the PS3's saviour and move millions of systems.

Dun DUN.

Exactly!! When the PS3 launched all this "MGS and FF will pwn in 2007!!" Ju ju just wait! Now its being pushed back even further and its palmed off as "Bu bu, we wait for excellence!" :shock:

[QUOTE="The_Crucible"][QUOTE="Gamingcucumber"]

For some reason my Xbox 360 port expectationjust went sky high. Seem really strange, in fact I think we saw this with the Orange Box when they delayed the game so it could be released with the console versions.

Anyhow...holy cricket cows. If this turns out to be final the PS3 really is in deep ¤#&" until at least 2008. And the fact that

God Of War doesn't come out until 2010 doesn't justify waiting 2 years for excellent games no matter how good they are. I mean look, the sony fans bought a PS3 on launch for what? 599 bucks? And by the time their favorite games come out the system will be at least 350$. Smart move.

BambooBanger

I'm sorry, was Gears a luanch title for 360? It seems to me that PS3 has R&C and Uncharted within about the same time frame. You do remember those two games, right? Or Haze, or UT3, or LBP, or Home, or KZ2, or GT, or Socom, need I go on. Just like most of the ignorant Sony-haters, you select a few titles like they are the only ones coming to the system and ignore all of the others.

Funny how all the games you just mentioned were pushed back and delayed into oblivion.

Not to mention Lair... That killer exclusive... :shock:

So, pushed back to Q2 08.

But who in his/her tright mind would believe the greatest PS3 game of the year to release during the summer?

Sorry cows, this looks like Q3/end of summer at best. at worst a full year from now. haols

But im the badguy and get flamed when I say this... :lol:

So we have to wait 3-4 more months than before?... OH NOES!!111

Seriously lemmings, you fail.

trizzle_a

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]PS3 need not apply to anyone without patience thats for sure. Jandurin

Ain't this the truth!

They need the extra time to polish the 360 version.Nick-M40A3

yeah isn't it obvious.

Sony needs to get into high gear and start releasing games before this GEN IS OVER!!!!! 360 came out in 2005 and im sure as soon as MS releases new console in 2011 Sony would have to counter that with new console as well. I feel sorry for all those people that had to spend 599 in 2006 and have to wait until middle of this gen to play some decent games.

lol notice how its all the dumb lemmings are posting in here, smarter ones know better. Ok dumb dumbs, the game has been moved from a late Q1 release to a Q2 release. for all we know it was moved from the last week of march to the the first week of april. OH NOES A 1 WEEK DELAY !!???!! ARRRGH THE CELL IS CRAP !!!bonethug1213

lol notice how its all the dumb lemmings are posting in here, smarter ones know better. Ok dumb dumbs, the game has been moved from a late Q1 release to a Q2 release. for all we know it was moved from the last week of march to the the first week of april. OH NOES A 1 WEEK DELAY !!???!! ARRRGH THE CELL IS CRAP !!!bonethug1213

it went from a Q1 release to a "pre-Christmas" release according to GS. Why would they make such a big deal about a 1 week delay??......and you're calling lemmings dumb...

[QUOTE="tman93"]Oh shoot. The game looks almost finished and they have a team of 200. How big can this game be?!?whodeysay85

[QUOTE="Nick-M40A3"]They need the extra time to polish the 360 version.TheDarkDisciple

yeah isn't it obvious.

So, pushed back to Q2 08.

But who in his/her tright mind would believe the greatest PS3 game of the year to release during the summer?

Sorry cows, this looks like Q3/end of summer at best. at worst a full year from now. haols

Great point, although with some games this matters much less for if it has a dedicated following.

[QUOTE="haols"]So, pushed back to Q2 08.

But who in his/her tright mind would believe the greatest PS3 game of the year to release during the summer?

Sorry cows, this looks like Q3/end of summer at best. at worst a full year from now. blue_hazy_basic

Great point, although with some games this matters much less for if it has a dedicated following.

Another good point. Sony stands a better chance to move tons of systems and make a killing with this game if they release it holiday season 08. Release in the summer would be suicide. Not to mention people are on summer vacations, not the largest spending portion of the year, blah blah blah. :shock:

lol notice how its all the dumb lemmings are posting in here, smarter ones know better. Ok dumb dumbs, the game has been moved from a late Q1 release to a Q2 release. for all we know it was moved from the last week of march to the the first week of april. OH NOES A 1 WEEK DELAY !!???!! ARRRGH THE CELL IS CRAP !!!bonethug1213

They wouldn't have issued a press release 5 months ahead of time for that.

Ergo, it is considered a material delay by Konami who aren't advising you the gamer so much as the financial markets.

The reasons are stated in the release....which primarily comes down to meeting the quality expectation of the fanbase.

Which means that the game is not ready yet, at the standard they expect/need.

Why it is not ready yet is unknown/not publicly disclosed, but rampant speculation that it is because of the programming difficulties with the PS3 architecture is not unreasonable.

One does not incur the continued cost of a huge development team for no reason. And one doesn't suddenly decide 80% of the way there to add a whole bunch of new content. They are having problems. Lots of games have problems....but the PS3 has more than their fairshare.

So it would be naive not to expect bashing...this is SW after all.

[QUOTE="bonethug1213"]lol notice how its all the dumb lemmings are posting in here, smarter ones know better. Ok dumb dumbs, the game has been moved from a late Q1 release to a Q2 release. for all we know it was moved from the last week of march to the the first week of april. OH NOES A 1 WEEK DELAY !!???!! ARRRGH THE CELL IS CRAP !!!blue_hazy_basic

I love how people just vomit anything that springs up in their minds completely unrelated to the facts of the thread.

1. Its been delayed Q2. Fact.

"It won't come out in the summer!" Umm...Q2 is not the summer time. Its spring.

"It won't sell unless released in the fall!" MGS won't sell? You could release it in a made up month on a made up day and it would sell huge.

2. MGS4 to be released on PS3.

"They're just delaying it to work on the 360 version!" Yeah..because thats clearly what Konami has said.

Anymore outlandish claims?

[QUOTE="bonethug1213"]lol notice how its all the dumb lemmings are posting in here, smarter ones know better. Ok dumb dumbs, the game has been moved from a late Q1 release to a Q2 release. for all we know it was moved from the last week of march to the the first week of april. OH NOES A 1 WEEK DELAY !!???!! ARRRGH THE CELL IS CRAP !!!SUD123456

They wouldn't have issued a press release 5 months ahead of time for that.

Ergo, it is considered a material delay by Konami who aren't advising you the gamer so much as the financial markets.

The reasons are stated in the release....which primarily comes down to meeting the quality expectation of the fanbase.

Which means that the game is not ready yet, at the standard they expect/need.

Why it is not ready yet is unknown/not publicly disclosed, but rampant speculation that it is because of the programming difficulties with the PS3 architecture is not unreasonable.

One does not incur the continued cost of a huge development team for no reason. And one doesn't suddenly decide 80% of the way there to add a whole bunch of new content. They are having problems. Lots of games have problems....but the PS3 has more than their fairshare.

So it would be naive not to expect bashing...this is SW after all.

It's not cell difficulties, this is not some multiplat we're talking about here. The game has been in development since 05. Difficulty with Cell programming doesn't just pop up at this late date, especially after we have seen the playable version. Basic optimization starts way early, when they are actaully writing out that code. Any problems with the Cell were dealt with a long time ago.They are just going for perfection, or as close to it as possible. The past MGS games were all highly polished, so MGS4 would not be much different.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

[QUOTE="bonethug1213"]lol notice how its all the dumb lemmings are posting in here, smarter ones know better. Ok dumb dumbs, the game has been moved from a late Q1 release to a Q2 release. for all we know it was moved from the last week of march to the the first week of april. OH NOES A 1 WEEK DELAY !!???!! ARRRGH THE CELL IS CRAP !!!bonethug1213

So chuck? If its one or two weeks, why would they even bother in fall of 07 to make it known? :shock:

I love how people just vomit anything that springs up in their minds completely unrelated to the facts of the thread.

1. Its been delayed Q2. Fact.

"It won't come out in the summer!" Umm...Q2 is not the summer time. Its spring.

"It won't sell unless released in the fall!" MGS won't sell? You could release it in a made up month on a made up day and it would sell huge.

2. MGS4 to be released on PS3.

"They're just delaying it to work on the 360 version!" Yeah..because thats clearly what Konami has said.

Anymore outlandish claims?

Bread_or_Decide

The 20 hours of cut scenes are finally done and they figure they will need more time for the 6 hours of game play to be implemented ! :o:

j/k don't anyone go all hyper on me.

Anymore outlandish claims?

Bread_or_Decide

It's ok, Sony fanboys love waiting for their games.JimJackJose

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

[QUOTE="bonethug1213"]lol notice how its all the dumb lemmings are posting in here, smarter ones know better. Ok dumb dumbs, the game has been moved from a late Q1 release to a Q2 release. for all we know it was moved from the last week of march to the the first week of april. OH NOES A 1 WEEK DELAY !!???!! ARRRGH THE CELL IS CRAP !!!Mordred19

They wouldn't have issued a press release 5 months ahead of time for that.

Ergo, it is considered a material delay by Konami who aren't advising you the gamer so much as the financial markets.

The reasons are stated in the release....which primarily comes down to meeting the quality expectation of the fanbase.

Which means that the game is not ready yet, at the standard they expect/need.

Why it is not ready yet is unknown/not publicly disclosed, but rampant speculation that it is because of the programming difficulties with the PS3 architecture is not unreasonable.

One does not incur the continued cost of a huge development team for no reason. And one doesn't suddenly decide 80% of the way there to add a whole bunch of new content. They are having problems. Lots of games have problems....but the PS3 has more than their fairshare.

So it would be naive not to expect bashing...this is SW after all.

It's not cell difficulties, this is not some multiplat we're talking about here. The game has been in development since 05. Difficulty with Cell programming doesn't just pop up at this late date, especially after we have seen the playable version. Basic optimization starts way early, when they are actaully writing out that code. Any problems with the Cell were dealt with a long time ago.They are just going for perfection, or as close to it as possible. The past MGS games were all highly polished, so MGS4 would not be much different.

You could be right. But like I said, in the absence of further information it would not be unreasonable to speculate about the PS3 architecture.

You could also be wrong. Because being off by quarter on just polishing and announcing that 5 months ahead of time seems highly unlikely. It is not like they have suddenly realized they need a higher polish standard...that was a given objective at the outset. Therefore, something has delayed the overall project plan. Just as it might not be PS3 architecture...it also might be hopeful thinking on your part.

In any case....the key is/was.....it is not unreasonable to speculate PS3 architecture when there are many instances of that being the case. There are plenty of exclusive and there are plenty of multiplats, which are in simultaneous development (not ports) that have noted PS3 architecture challenges.

I love how people just vomit anything that springs up in their minds completely unrelated to the facts of the thread.

1. Its been delayed Q2. Fact.

"It won't come out in the summer!" Umm...Q2 is not the summer time. Its spring.

"It won't sell unless released in the fall!" MGS won't sell? You could release it in a made up month on a made up day and it would sell huge.

2. MGS4 to be released on PS3.

"They're just delaying it to work on the 360 version!" Yeah..because thats clearly what Konami has said.

Anymore outlandish claims?

Bread_or_Decide

May and June are in summer, not spring

And its just a fact that no big games come out during that period.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

I love how people just vomit anything that springs up in their minds completely unrelated to the facts of the thread.

1. Its been delayed Q2. Fact.

"It won't come out in the summer!" Umm...Q2 is not the summer time. Its spring.

"It won't sell unless released in the fall!" MGS won't sell? You could release it in a made up month on a made up day and it would sell huge.

2. MGS4 to be released on PS3.

"They're just delaying it to work on the 360 version!" Yeah..because thats clearly what Konami has said.

Anymore outlandish claims?

whocares4peace

May and June are in summer, not spring

And its just a fact that no big games come out during that period.

May is in the summer? Summer starts usually begins on June 21.
How old are you?

[QUOTE="whocares4peace"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

I love how people just vomit anything that springs up in their minds completely unrelated to the facts of the thread.

1. Its been delayed Q2. Fact.

"It won't come out in the summer!" Umm...Q2 is not the summer time. Its spring.

"It won't sell unless released in the fall!" MGS won't sell? You could release it in a made up month on a made up day and it would sell huge.

2. MGS4 to be released on PS3.

"They're just delaying it to work on the 360 version!" Yeah..because thats clearly what Konami has said.

Anymore outlandish claims?

guts32

May and June are in summer, not spring

And its just a fact that no big games come out during that period.

May is in the summer? Summer starts usually begins on June 21.
How old are you?

[QUOTE="guts32"][QUOTE="whocares4peace"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

I love how people just vomit anything that springs up in their minds completely unrelated to the facts of the thread.

1. Its been delayed Q2. Fact.

"It won't come out in the summer!" Umm...Q2 is not the summer time. Its spring.

"It won't sell unless released in the fall!" MGS won't sell? You could release it in a made up month on a made up day and it would sell huge.

2. MGS4 to be released on PS3.

"They're just delaying it to work on the 360 version!" Yeah..because thats clearly what Konami has said.

Anymore outlandish claims?

blue_hazy_basic

May and June are in summer, not spring

And its just a fact that no big games come out during that period.

May is in the summer? Summer starts usually begins on June 21.
How old are you?

Your joking right?

Well as far as I know if you live above the equator line, summer begins at the end of June.

Before calling me ignorant, you cannot automatically assume summer is the same everywhere else as it is supposedly in Ireland.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="guts32"][QUOTE="whocares4peace"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

I love how people just vomit anything that springs up in their minds completely unrelated to the facts of the thread.

1. Its been delayed Q2. Fact.

"It won't come out in the summer!" Umm...Q2 is not the summer time. Its spring.

"It won't sell unless released in the fall!" MGS won't sell? You could release it in a made up month on a made up day and it would sell huge.

2. MGS4 to be released on PS3.

"They're just delaying it to work on the 360 version!" Yeah..because thats clearly what Konami has said.

Anymore outlandish claims?

guts32

May and June are in summer, not spring

And its just a fact that no big games come out during that period.

May is in the summer? Summer starts usually begins on June 21.
How old are you?

Your joking right?

Well as far as I know if you live above the equator line, summer begins at the end of June.

Before calling me ignorant, you cannot automatically assume summer is the same everywhere else as it is supposedly in Ireland.

wait did that guy just tell you not to be ignorant when he assumed that may would be the begining of summer?....i know this is off topic but that makes him a hypocrate....now back on topic i already thought it would come out in q2 08 since like the second official trailer.....you know when they scratch out 2007 and put in the 8 at the end

:lol:

Photo of Jimmy getting ready to buy his PS3 at his local Best Buy's launch extravaganza (anxiously anticipating MGS4 and FF)

Photo of Jimmy getting ready to buy his copy of MGS4 at his local Best Buy's MSG4 launch extravaganza.

[QUOTE="guts32"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]Well I'm from Ireland and start of May is the start of summer there, depends on where you're from. Maybe you shouldn't criticise others ignorance before your own?hyperboy152000

Your joking right?

Well as far as I know if you live above the equator line, summer begins at the end of June.

Before calling me ignorant, you cannot automatically assume summer is the same everywhere else as it is supposedly in Ireland.

wait did that guy just tell you not to be ignorant when he assumed that may would be the begining of summer?....i know this is off topic but that makes him a hypocrate....now back on topic i already thought it would come out in q2 08 since like the second official trailer.....you know when they scratch out 2007 and put in the 8 at the end

Actually I now live in the states. If either of you had bothered to read what I'd said (instead of misreading it, education FTW) you'd have seen that I said IN Ireland the start of May is when Summer begins, but it DEPENDS WHERE YOU LIVE. Different countries throughout the western world (and world in general) have different official start times for when summer begins and ends.

In Ireland, summer starts as early as May 2 even though July, August and September are the warmest months there.[citation needed] In some countries, summer begins on June 1,[citation needed] while in others it arrives as late as July 1.[citation needed] In general, seasonal changes occur later in coastal regions, so countries close to the oceans go for a later start to summer (with the exception of Ireland) than inland ones. Summer is commonly viewed as the season with the longest (and warmest) days of the year, in which the daylight predominates, through varying degreesJandurin

Thanks Jan :D now back on topic

[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"][QUOTE="guts32"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]Well I'm from Ireland and start of May is the start of summer there, depends on where you're from. Maybe you shouldn't criticise others ignorance before your own?blue_hazy_basic

Your joking right?

Well as far as I know if you live above the equator line, summer begins at the end of June.

Before calling me ignorant, you cannot automatically assume summer is the same everywhere else as it is supposedly in Ireland.

wait did that guy just tell you not to be ignorant when he assumed that may would be the begining of summer?....i know this is off topic but that makes him a hypocrate....now back on topic i already thought it would come out in q2 08 since like the second official trailer.....you know when they scratch out 2007 and put in the 8 at the end

Actually I now live in the states. If either of you had bothered to read what I'd said (instead of misreading it, education FTW) you'd have seen that I said IN Ireland the start of May is when Summer begins, but it DEPENDS WHERE YOU LIVE. Different countries throughout the western world (and world in general) have different official start times for when summer begins and ends.

you mean reading comprehention when you said education FTW...nice try on that one... but anyone who uses Q2 in terms of the callender year is talking about spring... if they wanted to say somewhere between spring and summer they would use q2/q3...simple as that

[QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

Wow you people are so sad. Trying to use this to bash PS3 owners?

Yeah because other consoles NEVER delay their best games. (Twilight Princess on gamecube? Smash Bros on Wii? Yeah that wasn't delayed or anything. Halo 3 took TWO years into the 360's life to come out.)

You may have noticed all the other games that weren't delayed. Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, Ratchet and Clank, and Uncharted.

Magical_Zebra

LOL yea and look at the 1 billion they had to spend because they rushed their console. Mass Effect, Bioshock, Too Human all got delayed as well. Heck every system has delays. Most likly the case is that after Konami got feedback fromt he demo they had been showing at different events, they are more then likly fixing any issues and adding things they think might increase the games success based off of feedback.

Quick question. Did M$ have to get SUED before they offered this warrenty? Or did they do like Sony and pretend there was not a problem? :shock:

Actually MS had to have several investigations and several companies dropping the option to fix xbox 360s or even offer a three year warranty like the rumor in gamestop. You see the difference is that Sony learned from last gen. and MS didnt. Sony managed to used new tech and produce a stable console and MS can't.

Read

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_technical_problems

Why not just make it holiday '08?DaysAirlines

Why not just make it holiday '08?DaysAirlines

What Game hasn't been delayed on the PS3?GundamGuy0

[QUOTE="whocares4peace"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

I love how people just vomit anything that springs up in their minds completely unrelated to the facts of the thread.

1. Its been delayed Q2. Fact.

"It won't come out in the summer!" Umm...Q2 is not the summer time. Its spring.

"It won't sell unless released in the fall!" MGS won't sell? You could release it in a made up month on a made up day and it would sell huge.

2. MGS4 to be released on PS3.

"They're just delaying it to work on the 360 version!" Yeah..because thats clearly what Konami has said.

Anymore outlandish claims?

guts32

May and June are in summer, not spring

And its just a fact that no big games come out during that period.

May is in the summer? Summer starts usually begins on June 21.
How old are you?

When its 40 degree celcius, I consider it summer.

[QUOTE="guts32"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="guts32"][QUOTE="whocares4peace"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

I love how people just vomit anything that springs up in their minds completely unrelated to the facts of the thread.

1. Its been delayed Q2. Fact.

"It won't come out in the summer!" Umm...Q2 is not the summer time. Its spring.

"It won't sell unless released in the fall!" MGS won't sell? You could release it in a made up month on a made up day and it would sell huge.

2. MGS4 to be released on PS3.

"They're just delaying it to work on the 360 version!" Yeah..because thats clearly what Konami has said.

Anymore outlandish claims?

hyperboy152000

May and June are in summer, not spring

And its just a fact that no big games come out during that period.

May is in the summer? Summer starts usually begins on June 21.
How old are you?

Your joking right?

Well as far as I know if you live above the equator line, summer begins at the end of June.

Before calling me ignorant, you cannot automatically assume summer is the same everywhere else as it is supposedly in Ireland.

wait did that guy just tell you not to be ignorant when he assumed that may would be the begining of summer?....i know this is off topic but that makes him a hypocrate....now back on topic i already thought it would come out in q2 08 since like the second official trailer.....you know when they scratch out 2007 and put in the 8 at the end

Originally MGS4 was slated for a November, 2007 release before it was delayed to Q1 2008. The fact it was delayed to Q2 2008 is not an issue. People quickly forget that Gears of War was delayed 6 months and when it came out it was still considered rushed by the developer. As long as the game comes out as the developer intends, that is all that matters.

[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"]What Game hasn't been delayed on the PS3?Jandurin

Lair was delayed... and if you want to get funky so was REsistance because the PS3 was delayed.