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#301 0rin
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[QUOTE="0rin"][QUOTE="dsmccracken"]

[QUOTE="metalgear-solid"]Buy a PS3 and get the best gaming experience ever. There won't be a X360 version.dsmccracken

Good thing you didn't choose Tekken, Final Fantasy, or Devil May Cry for your username.



Or Gears of War, Mass Effect, or Bioshock.

Well, Bioshock was never exclusive that I know of, and Gears/ME (though multiplat) still don't work when you slip them into the PS3 disc tray for some reason. But of course, every PS3 owner has a fully tricked-out gaming PC rig, right?! :lol:



Thank you for taking the bait. that is all the confirmation I needed to know how you "really" feel.

At any rate, talking to all the relatively un-biased people out there --

It would seem that if the PS3 loses MGS4 as an exclusive, that they are really losing out to the 360. Unfortunate thing this is.

Hard times in Sony land to be sure. MS is really not holding back this gen, writing checks to everyone, and just generally appealing to a mass market.

It's just so unfortunate that their hardware is still so bad. *shakes head* It really perturbs me to know that the machine with the worst hardware (at least quality wise) is winning over the console platform.

Why? partly because of an early launch, and early success, partly because of the amount of money they are willing to spend to steal the market

And partly because of their seeming drive to monopolize anything electronic. -_-

It seems like they just want it more. I still don't regret getting my PS3, but by god if it doesn't hurt less and less to lose an exclusive.

I agree with Subrosian that after FFXIII went multi, I lost almost all expectations for third party exclusives. Though I had hoped the ONE third party E the PS3 had would stay that way.

I'm not too worried about the lemmings that claim MGS4 is coming to the 360 as a fact, because it's obvious they are just trying to A: rile up the other fanboys or B: "doom and glooming" the PS3.

It's not a fact .. yet. lets just leave it at that. never before have I seen a rumor that just would. not. die. like this.

It's so bad that this is the SECOND thread on this forum that has been stickied about this topic. For the record, I hope it's not true. Not to spite 360 fans, but for Sony's sake. Unless Sony can somehow secure some more exclusives, and by some stroke of fate, have a successful year (outselling competition) SOMETIME before next gen comes along. However, the likelyhood of that happening though is seeming less and less likely, unfortunately.
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#302 tman93
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I honestly cannot belive this rumor is going on still.... im kinda sick of arguing about it I have been longer than alot of people who are have been arging have had their accounts.

Kojma basicly said its possible, now Sony will probably pay them off, if not then it will go 360 and if it does, I will be so angry for buying PS3 its not even funny.

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#303 meme378
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I wouldn't be surprised if it did come out (they might want to change those Ipods to Zunes or something). It must be annoying for those people who bought the PS3 just for this game though.
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#304 0rin
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I honestly cannot belive this rumor is going on still.... im kinda sick of arguing about it I have been longer than alot of people who are have been arging have had their accounts.

Kojma basicly said its possible, now Sony will probably pay them off, if not then it will go 360 and if it does, I will be so angry for buying PS3 its not even funny.

tman93


Kojima hasn't said anything. some representative from Konami said it.

I'm sure that was an honest mistake on your part, but really -- Kojima hasn't said anything official on this matter. last I know of him saying is that it was built for the PS3, and is a PS3 exclusive.

Honestly, Kojima is the only one in this entire mess that seems sure. Everyone else seems to want to brown-nose MS some more.
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#305 killerfist
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My crystal ball tells me there will be lots of suicides in the future

:shock:

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#306 dsmccracken
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[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="0rin"][QUOTE="dsmccracken"]

[QUOTE="metalgear-solid"]Buy a PS3 and get the best gaming experience ever. There won't be a X360 version.0rin

Good thing you didn't choose Tekken, Final Fantasy, or Devil May Cry for your username.



Or Gears of War, Mass Effect, or Bioshock.

Well, Bioshock was never exclusive that I know of, and Gears/ME (though multiplat) still don't work when you slip them into the PS3 disc tray for some reason. But of course, every PS3 owner has a fully tricked-out gaming PC rig, right?! :lol:



Thank you for taking the bait. that is all the confirmation I needed to know how you "really" feel.

At any rate, talking to all the relatively un-biased people out there --

Pointing at those fruit and calling them apples, while also noting that these others over here are oranges is biased? If you want to set bait (synonym for trolling anyone?) you should set the kind that fanboys eat, not guardians of logic and common sense.

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#307 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="tman93"]

I honestly cannot belive this rumor is going on still.... im kinda sick of arguing about it I have been longer than alot of people who are have been arging have had their accounts.

Kojma basicly said its possible, now Sony will probably pay them off, if not then it will go 360 and if it does, I will be so angry for buying PS3 its not even funny.

0rin


Kojima hasn't said anything. some representative from Konami said it.

I'm sure that was an honest mistake on your part, but really -- Kojima hasn't said anything official on this matter. last I know of him saying is that it was built for the PS3, and is a PS3 exclusive.

Honestly, Kojima is the only one in this entire mess that seems sure. Everyone else seems to want to brown-nose MS some more.

No offense, but since the game is essentially finished, couldn't it be farmed out to another team for any kind of porting, just to theorize?
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#308 0rin
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[QUOTE="0rin"][QUOTE="tman93"]

I honestly cannot belive this rumor is going on still.... im kinda sick of arguing about it I have been longer than alot of people who are have been arging have had their accounts.

Kojma basicly said its possible, now Sony will probably pay them off, if not then it will go 360 and if it does, I will be so angry for buying PS3 its not even funny.

HuusAsking


Kojima hasn't said anything. some representative from Konami said it.

I'm sure that was an honest mistake on your part, but really -- Kojima hasn't said anything official on this matter. last I know of him saying is that it was built for the PS3, and is a PS3 exclusive.

Honestly, Kojima is the only one in this entire mess that seems sure. Everyone else seems to want to brown-nose MS some more.

No offense, but since the game is essentially finished, couldn't it be farmed out to another team for any kind of porting, just to theorize?



Oh, absolutely. But it is Kojima's IP. Unless I'm mistaken, Which I may very well be, it needs to be Okayed with him first, before another company can do it. Again though, I'm not positive this is how it works. However, I'd like some form of proof to the contrary, if you claim so.
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#309 HAZE-Unit
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MGS4 is not coming to the 360, I've just talked to Kojima and he told me that he is a cow and he spend most of his time on SW and he don't like lemmings, "porting the game to 360 is not going to sell" he said, adding " because lemmings just want to own cows and that is not what Im looking for".

You just have to be good supporters for the game to get it.

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#310 HAZE-Unit
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Oh I forgot to say, MGS5 will go multiplatform so stay tuned, forget about MGS4, Kojima is not planning on making MGS games any time soon so don't expect him to work on his more exhausting game ever again ( MGS4 I mean ).

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#311 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="0rin"][QUOTE="tman93"]

I honestly cannot belive this rumor is going on still.... im kinda sick of arguing about it I have been longer than alot of people who are have been arging have had their accounts.

Kojma basicly said its possible, now Sony will probably pay them off, if not then it will go 360 and if it does, I will be so angry for buying PS3 its not even funny.

0rin


Kojima hasn't said anything. some representative from Konami said it.

I'm sure that was an honest mistake on your part, but really -- Kojima hasn't said anything official on this matter. last I know of him saying is that it was built for the PS3, and is a PS3 exclusive.

Honestly, Kojima is the only one in this entire mess that seems sure. Everyone else seems to want to brown-nose MS some more.

No offense, but since the game is essentially finished, couldn't it be farmed out to another team for any kind of porting, just to theorize?



Oh, absolutely. But it is Kojima's IP. Unless I'm mistaken, Which I may very well be, it needs to be Okayed with him first, before another company can do it. Again though, I'm not positive this is how it works. However, I'd like some form of proof to the contrary, if you claim so.

As I understand it, the game and the whole series concept were made under Konami's roof, therefore, employer copyright is in play, and Konami (and Kojima's employer--not to mention the publisher) gets the final call.
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#312 jg4xchamp
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Another Metal Gear Solid sticky...

I mean MGS has owned the stickies this gen on system wars...

Me personally i don't care if it goes to 360..since i have all the systems, that said MGS 4 is easily by far my biggest reason for owning a PS3.
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#313 jg4xchamp
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also to the dude above...no its not Kojima's ip its owned by Konami

Konami just isn't stupid enough to not have Kojima direct the MGS games.

THat said i expect sooner or later Konami will milk MGS for all its worth(said really)

but then again ill buy it anyway.
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#314 Blackbond
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Its about time. People are giving way too much attention to rumors.
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#315 out0v0rder
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360 Fanboys : "MGS4 IS A BORING MOVIE, ITS CRAP" 360 Fanboys NOW: "MGS4 IS COMING TO 360, YAY, IN YOUR FACE COWS"
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#316 dsmccracken
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360 Fanboys : "MGS4 IS A BORING MOVIE, ITS CRAP" 360 Fanboys NOW: "MGS4 IS COMING TO 360, YAY, IN YOUR FACE COWS"out0v0rder

I don't see that kind of agreement from the lemming hive-mind. It seems more like a mixed bag when you go through this thread.

Whatever, it's not like fanboys (any kind) being hypocrits is breaking news.

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#317 nervmeister
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Is it time for me to bring up my patented Old Snake Sackboy argument again? :P
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#318 dsmccracken
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Is it time for me to bring up my patented Old Snake Sackboy argument again? :Pnervmeister

No, not quite yet. Wait another 40 minutes then drop the bomb.

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#319 jg4xchamp
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Is it time for me to bring up my patented Old Snake Sackboy argument again? :Pnervmeister
no do it now..do it now...i never saw it :(
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#320 killerfist
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"]Is it time for me to bring up my patented Old Snake Sackboy argument again? :Pjg4xchamp
no do it now..do it now...i never saw it :(

me neither
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#321 SecretPolice
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Me believe the push is being made but like the last sentence says..........:P j/k

Schappert would love to see MGS4 on 360 News

Today 14:58

Xbox Live boss John Schappert has said he would love to see Metal Gear Solid 4 on 360, and that the console certainly has power enough to handle the beefy game.

"I'm certainly in the fan club that would love to see Kojima-san's masterpiece come our way. It would be wonderful to play Metal Gear Solid on the Xbox. It could become another of the many franchises that started their life on another console that are now coming our way," Schappert told MCV.

"I can't speak on behalf of Konami, but I can shed more light on the fact that we definitely have the power to run MGS4.

"There are a lot of recent examples that are in true high-def on our platform and aren't on PS3. We've got an amazing amount of horsepower and graphics power," he added.

His comments further grind the rumour mill set into action by Japanese Konami PR Yoshitaka Arai, who told a regional publication yesterdaythat "worldwide demand" for MGS4 on Xbox 360 was "quite high", and something the company was "looking into".

Kojima told us in August he was fed up of people asking for MGS4 on Xbox 360, but then he's trying to move away from the series and leave future instalments to a younger team, anyway.

The Metal Gear Solid creator is expected to unveil a brand new game at the Tokyo Game Show in 2009, too.

What's all the fuss about? Metal Gear Solid 4 only got 8/10. Look at all those worms!

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#323 killerfist
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hmpf here we go..:?

my crystal ball was right..once again. I love that thing so much:|

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#326 killerfist
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fun stuff

SecretPolice

where is the Kojima pic?:(

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#328 killerfist
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1-) The said this game was an overrated Movie

2-) They said they didnt want it

3-) They wouldnt even buy it, all they want to do is rub the port on all the people who bought a Ps3 for it.

blacknine-11

I left the bannable stuff out for obvious reasons but I'd like to say this:

Fanboys =/= real gamers

cows are no different

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#330 no_handlebars
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The saga continues. www.techradar.com/news/gaming/konami-s-mgs4-on-xbox-360-475888 Apparently a Konami UK rep has told TechRadar that they have no plans right now to release MGS4 on anything other than the PS3.
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#332 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"]Is it time for me to bring up my patented Old Snake Sackboy argument again? :Pjg4xchamp
no do it now..do it now...i never saw it :(

If Sony knew that MGS4's exclusivity wasn't secure, they wouldn't have released a downloadable Old Snake sackboy costume for LBP. All of those game-related downloadable sackboy costumes are strictly from this gen's Sony exclusives. You won't see costumes from Sony games that are or may become muti-plat.
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="nervmeister"]Is it time for me to bring up my patented Old Snake Sackboy argument again? :Pnervmeister
no do it now..do it now...i never saw it :(

If Sony knew that MGS4's exclusivity wasn't secure, they wouldn't have released a downloadable Old Snake sackboy costume for LBP. All of those game-related downloadable sackboy costumes are strictly from this gen's Sony exclusives. You won't see costumes from Sony games that are or will be muti-plat.

How could we have missed it! Sackboy customes the definitive proof that mgs staying exclusive!

Seriously now, the game will stay exclusive for only two possibler reasons. Sony paid Konami to keep the game exclusive perminantly.

Or

Konami don't think the game will sell enough on 360 to recoup the cost of porting it.

I think we can rule out option 2.

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#334 Wasdie  Moderator
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I think it is a growing possibility. Though I wouldn't get all excited for a game that will be well over 1 year old.
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#335 killerfist
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="nervmeister"]Is it time for me to bring up my patented Old Snake Sackboy argument again? :Pcakeorrdeath

no do it now..do it now...i never saw it :(

If Sony knew that MGS4's exclusivity wasn't secure, they wouldn't have released a downloadable Old Snake sackboy costume for LBP. All of those game-related downloadable sackboy costumes are strictly from this gen's Sony exclusives. You won't see costumes from Sony games that are or will be muti-plat.

How could we have missed it! Sackboy customes the definitive proof that mgs staying exclusive!

Seriously now, the game will stay exclusive for only two possibler reasons. Sony paid Konami to keep the game exclusive perminantly.

Or

Konami don't think the game will sell enough on 360 to recoup the cost of porting it.

I think we can rule out option 2.

Bu Bu But what about Kojima? he's smiling..:|

(found it):P

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#337 SapSacPrime
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I think it is a growing possibility. Though I wouldn't get all excited for a game that will be well over 1 year old.Wasdie

It may not take that long to port to the 360 and it isn't like it is going to be crap just because it aged a year :| besides which plenty of PS3 fans are happy to be getting Bioshock a year late (and they should be, it is still a great game).

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#338 sakura_Ex
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Sorry no MGS4 for the 360 for now at least http://www.incgamers.com/Games/1728/News/Konami-On-MGS-For-360/14015

Another article can be found on N4G.

I still say some kind of contract was put into place,there were waaaaaaaaay too many Sony products in MGS4 ( it was like one big Sony ad space ).

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#339 johnnyblazed88
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this is just like bioshock was for PS3, sooner or later it will be confirmed for the 360
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#340 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]I think it is a growing possibility. Though I wouldn't get all excited for a game that will be well over 1 year old.SapSacPrime

It may not take that long to port to the 360 and it isn't like it is going to be crap just because it aged a year :| besides which plenty of PS3 fans are happy to be getting Bioshock a year late (and they should be, it is still a great game).

Then what about the Substance fiasco?
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#341 HuusAsking
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Sorry no MGS4 for the 360 for now at least http://www.incgamers.com/Games/1728/News/Konami-On-MGS-For-360/14015

Another article can be found on N4G.

I still say some kind of contract was put into place,there were waaaaaaaaay too many Sony products in MGS4 ( it was like one big Sony ad space ).

sakura_Ex
So what if Microsoft pays Konami to take them out?
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#342 sakura_Ex
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I see why Sony had so much confidence when they said that this game was exclusive,I mean think about it..... no game developed/produced by Sony has ever had any product placement like MGS4 has and I doubt Konami/Kojima put all those Sony products in there from the kindness of their hearts,a contract was definitely formed.

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#343 sakura_Ex
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[QUOTE="sakura_Ex"]

Sorry no MGS4 for the 360 for now at least http://www.incgamers.com/Games/1728/News/Konami-On-MGS-For-360/14015

Another article can be found on N4G.

I still say some kind of contract was put into place,there were waaaaaaaaay too many Sony products in MGS4 ( it was like one big Sony ad space ).

HuusAsking

So what if Microsoft pays Konami to take them out?

Well..... I don't know the details of the contract,all I know is one had to be put into place.

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#344 Broman6015
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I see why Sony had so much confidence when they said that this game was exclusive,I mean think about it..... no game developed and produced by Sony has ever had any product placement like MGS4 has and I doubt Konami/Kojima put all those Sony products in there from the kindness of their hearts,a contract was definitely formed.

sakura_Ex

Yea i really cant see how Sony would screw up that much and let MGS4 go multiplat. They knew this was their heavy hitter and i cant see how they would not pay up, despite their stance on buying exclusives. Of course i could be wrong and anything could happen.

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="nervmeister"]Is it time for me to bring up my patented Old Snake Sackboy argument again? :Pnervmeister
no do it now..do it now...i never saw it :(

If Sony knew that MGS4's exclusivity wasn't secure, they wouldn't have released a downloadable Old Snake sackboy costume for LBP. All of those game-related downloadable sackboy costumes are strictly from this gen's Sony exclusives. You won't see costumes from Sony games that are or may become muti-plat.

What would an Old Snake Sackboy costume prove that MGS4 is exclusive when the MGS4 Metal Gear Gekkos also appears in the Shadow Moses level in Brawl? Plus I wouldn't be surprised if you could make Old Snake Avatars later on.

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#346 ReverseCycology
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[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

I just have a feeling when MGS4 comes to the 360, Raiden will be playable and parts like Raiden vs Vamp fight scenes will be playable. Can not wait. Keep up the good work MS.

ArisShadows

Wait? I thought you owned a PS3?

I mean if there are different levels, different characters, and different content and you're a fan of the game, I don't see why wouldn't you be interested again.

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#347 metalgear-solid
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At least it's just one topic over here. Have a look at the MGS4 boards where every third topic is about 360...

Stupid false rumors.

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#348 mistervengeance
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"The original quote has been pulled. There's a new quote from a different Konami PR person (named Chiaki Nakajima) that doesn't even refer to the Xbox 360, but just about how the company was going multi-plat from now on and hoped to take advantage of each platform. Make of this what you will."

there you go. read the update.

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#349 SecretPolice
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Xbox 360 Nets the Winner with PES 2009 Fans

A Pro Evolution Soccer 09 Xbox 360 bundle is headed to European countries.

October 16, 2008- Starting 24th October in Austria, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, and United Kingdom Xbox 360 will exclusively bundle Pro Evolution Soccer 2009 with their Pro console. For a limited time and the estimated retail price of £189.99/€269.99, the bundle will include Konami's PES 2009 popular video game in a custom box and the console with a 60GB hard-drive.

"We are thrilled to partner with Konami to give football fans the latest in high-definition gaming at a great price in time for Christmas," said Chris Lewis, third-party marketing manager for Europe.

The Xbox 360 PES bundle is great value and is perfect for those who want the complete football gaming and entertainment experience.

So really, how long will it be before we see a MGS4 Bundle, May, June or July 2009 ? :twisted:

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#350 Lionheart08
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Sorry no MGS4 for the 360 for now at least http://www.incgamers.com/Games/1728/News/Konami-On-MGS-For-360/14015

Another article can be found on N4G.

I still say some kind of contract was put into place,there were waaaaaaaaay too many Sony products in MGS4 ( it was like one big Sony ad space ).

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You'd think that'd be the end of story at least for the time being, but peolpe will still obsess over it.