RE5 says hellow ;)
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"]How do you figure that? Drake doesn't look like paper mache
ok, so lets then compare that to the character models for Uncharted and we'll see which looks better.
i will give you a hint: its not uncharted
f50p90
lol. of course. you get one of the blurriest Gears pic to go against a cutscene from Uncharted, and still the character models in gears are ALOT more detailed.
[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"][QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="f50p90"]MGS4 has the best character models and the best art direction, to go along with servicable textures. Character models are the most important thing anyway that's what your look at 90% of the time.f50p90
cows are sure a confusing bunch.
if Character textures is what matters most when defining the 'best looking' game, then why is Uncharted known as the console graphics king when Gears had way better character textures?
Gears character textures? You mean how they were recycled so that EVERY character looked exactly the same, COGs and Locusts alike. and how marcus Fenix's head (ear especially) looked like paper mache? Those character textures???yes those, much better. c'mon from what we've seen the game looks pretty good but not as good as GeoW1 IMO.
From what I have seen, MGS4 looks much better than Gears1 all around. I think there are plenty of games that look better than Gears1 all around. (Not commenting on uncharted, never played) I think Assassins Creed is better looking, Mass Effect, Prologue, just off the top of my head.Gears2 DOES improve on ALOT of the visual gripes I had with Gears1 though. Light being the first and most obvious one.
That looks really good, but i wouldnt say graphics king. MGS Series have always had extreme detail. For example stuff such as all AIs pistols, rifles etc having that blowback animation where the shellcase would pop out. Looked sweet. Mate of mine got a pick of Olga when fighting her on the ship in MGS 2 where he got a pic with the cam while shes shooting while you see the gun and the load part of the gun pulled back and a shell flying out. Looked epic. Or stuff like you pull pins on grenades and the pin keeps lying there, even if you come back. I remember wanting to see how many empty shell cases, empty clips, and flash grenades you could throw in 1 place before they would start overwriting each other. I did so for around 15 min, and lets just say i got bored and stopped trying :D
Game was extremly detailed for a mid gen PS2 game.
[QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]How do you figure that? Drake doesn't look like paper mache
ok, so lets then compare that to the character models for Uncharted and we'll see which looks better.
i will give you a hint: its not uncharted
ogvampire
lol. of course. you get one of the blurriest Gears pic to go against a cutscene from Uncharted, and still the character models in gears are ALOT more detailed.
That's not a cutscene..that's a melee move..
From what I have seen, MGS4 looks much better than Gears1 all around. I think there are plenty of games that look better than Gears1 all around. (Not commenting on uncharted, never played) I think Assassins Creed is better looking, Mass Effect, Prologue, just off the top of my head.yes those, much better. c'mon from what we've seen the game looks pretty good but not as good as GeoW1 IMO.
AgentH
Gears2 DOES improve on ALOT of the visual gripes I had with Gears1 though. Light being the first and most obvious one.
ever heard of Mass Effect?
[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]How do you figure that? Drake doesn't look like paper mache
ok, so lets then compare that to the character models for Uncharted and we'll see which looks better.
i will give you a hint: its not uncharted
thrones
lol. of course. you get one of the blurriest Gears pic to go against a cutscene from Uncharted, and still the character models in gears are ALOT more detailed.
That's not a cutscene..that's a melee move..
hm.... i dont remember the camera turning 45 degrees for those
lol. of course. you get one of the blurriest Gears pic to go against a cutscene from Uncharted, and still the character models in gears are ALOT more detailed. ogvampireWell its not a cutscene, and its one of the worst ones actually I just hit ctr c really quick... And the gears one is clear as crystal... Fenix ALWAYS looks like paper mache
[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]How do you figure that? Drake doesn't look like paper mache
ok, so lets then compare that to the character models for Uncharted and we'll see which looks better.
i will give you a hint: its not uncharted
ogvampire
lol. of course. you get one of the blurriest Gears pic to go against a cutscene from Uncharted, and still the character models in gears are ALOT more detailed.
That's not a cutscene..that's a melee move..
hm.... i dont remember the camera turning 45 degrees for those
Hmm... then maybe you didn't really play the game??? That's actual gameplay footage.
haze_blaze
lol. of course. you get one of the blurriest Gears pic to go against a cutscene from Uncharted, and still the character models in gears are ALOT more detailed.
That's not a cutscene..that's a melee move..
hm.... i dont remember the camera turning 45 degrees for those
Hmm... then maybe you didn't really play the game??? That's actual gameplay footage.
have the demo, i did the melee moves like twice, and i dont remember the camera turning and blurring like that. that pic is fishy to me, i will play it tonight to see
[QUOTE="AgentH"]And these are captured from a LOW/STANDARD resolution video! This is what the final built look like!
Patriot298
LOL.....Looks good but still not as good as Gears of War or Uncharted. Mass Effect says hello as well....
Gears faces were crap outside of cutscenes.
did the melee moves like twice, and i dont remember the camera turning and blurring like that. that pic is fishy to me, i will play it tonight to seeogvampireHow bout YOU find one where Fenix looks better than Drake. I'm having trouble finding a screen of Uncharted that DOESNT look like a 'cutscene' (i never played it either):? And like i said Fenix always looks like paper mache.. Not so much in Gears 2 though, they fixed him up
RE5 says hellow ;)
legend26
I'll agree on that... can't wait for new footage on RE5. Only problem is that the game was supposed to come out towards the end of 07... and we STILL don't have a release date for it. However, I think that the delays will only lead to it looking even better.
here's a better pic of Gears. compare that pic to uncharted now
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_viewer/frame_lead.php?pid=928234&img=91
actually, this one is better:
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_viewer/frame_lead.php?pid=928234&img=91#view_full_size
[QUOTE="haze_blaze"]ogvampire
lol. of course. you get one of the blurriest Gears pic to go against a cutscene from Uncharted, and still the character models in gears are ALOT more detailed.
That's not a cutscene..that's a melee move..
hm.... i dont remember the camera turning 45 degrees for those
Hmm... then maybe you didn't really play the game??? That's actual gameplay footage.
have the demo, i did the melee moves like twice, and i dont remember the camera turning and blurring like that. that pic is fishy to me, i will play it tonight to see
Dude it's not fake, that's the actual melee attack rendered in real time!
And Mass Effect? are you kidding me with this?
[QUOTE="haze_blaze"]ogvampire
lol. of course. you get one of the blurriest Gears pic to go against a cutscene from Uncharted, and still the character models in gears are ALOT more detailed.
That's not a cutscene..that's a melee move..
hm.... i dont remember the camera turning 45 degrees for those
Hmm... then maybe you didn't really play the game??? That's actual gameplay footage.
have the demo, i did the melee moves like twice, and i dont remember the camera turning and blurring like that. that pic is fishy to me, i will play it tonight to see
Well, #1... the demo is not the same as the final build. It is pretty close graphically though. #2, feel free to investigate as much as you like... those of us who've actually played the game had plenty of moments where we couldn't believe just how good the graphics looked. It really was an amazing game graphically.
[QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"][QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="f50p90"]MGS4 has the best character models and the best art direction, to go along with servicable textures. Character models are the most important thing anyway that's what your look at 90% of the time.AgentH
cows are sure a confusing bunch.
if Character textures is what matters most when defining the 'best looking' game, then why is Uncharted known as the console graphics king when Gears had way better character textures?
Gears character textures? You mean how they were recycled so that EVERY character looked exactly the same, COGs and Locusts alike. and how marcus Fenix's head (ear especially) looked like paper mache? Those character textures???yes those, much better. c'mon from what we've seen the game looks pretty good but not as good as GeoW1 IMO.
From what I have seen, MGS4 looks much better than Gears1 all around. I think there are plenty of games that look better than Gears1 all around. (Not commenting on uncharted, never played) I think Assassins Creed is better looking, Mass Effect, Prologue, just off the top of my head.Gears2 DOES improve on ALOT of the visual gripes I had with Gears1 though. Light being the first and most obvious one.
Lets wait and see how much of that makes it into the game. We all saw the downgrade of Gears 1 before it was close to release.
[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="haze_blaze"]AgentH
lol. of course. you get one of the blurriest Gears pic to go against a cutscene from Uncharted, and still the character models in gears are ALOT more detailed.
That's not a cutscene..that's a melee move..
hm.... i dont remember the camera turning 45 degrees for those
Hmm... then maybe you didn't really play the game??? That's actual gameplay footage.
have the demo, i did the melee moves like twice, and i dont remember the camera turning and blurring like that. that pic is fishy to me, i will play it tonight to see
Dude it's not fake, that's the actual melee attack rendered in real time!
And Mass Effect? are you kidding me with this?
The characters faces are improved on conversations, you can tell by the pop in that sometimes occurs.
What is that? is that a cutscene? Your never in that view. MOST of the game your in an OTS view behind fenix, and they guy looks like Paper Mache :?here's a better pic of Gears. compare that pic to uncharted now
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_viewer/frame_lead.php?pid=928234&img=91
ogvampire
[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="haze_blaze"]AgentH
lol. of course. you get one of the blurriest Gears pic to go against a cutscene from Uncharted, and still the character models in gears are ALOT more detailed.
That's not a cutscene..that's a melee move..
hm.... i dont remember the camera turning 45 degrees for those
Hmm... then maybe you didn't really play the game??? That's actual gameplay footage.
have the demo, i did the melee moves like twice, and i dont remember the camera turning and blurring like that. that pic is fishy to me, i will play it tonight to see
Dude it's not fake, that's the actual melee attack rendered in real time!
And Mass Effect? are you kidding me with this?
There are better screens then that one though. I think the difference b/w ME & MGS4 will be a matter of opinion. The skin textures are more realistic on ME... but the attention to detail is better on MGS4. Don't really think that's a fight either of you are going to win.
[QUOTE="ogvampire"]What is that? is that a cutscene? Your never in that view. MOST of the game your in an OTS view behind fenix, and they guy looks like Paper Mache :?here's a better pic of Gears. compare that pic to uncharted now
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_viewer/frame_lead.php?pid=928234&img=91
f50p90
No, that's gameplay... think he's just taking cover... either way, still doesn't look as good as Uncharted. Gears was definitely a good looking game though.
[QUOTE="ogvampire"] did the melee moves like twice, and i dont remember the camera turning and blurring like that. that pic is fishy to me, i will play it tonight to seef50p90How bout YOU find one where Fenix looks better than Drake. I'm having trouble finding a screen of Uncharted that DOESNT look like a 'cutscene' (i never played it either):? And like i said Fenix always looks like paper mache.. Not so much in Gears 2 though, they fixed him up
Try finding shots of the PC version.
AgentH
Hmm... then maybe you didn't really play the game??? That's actual gameplay footage.
have the demo, i did the melee moves like twice, and i dont remember the camera turning and blurring like that. that pic is fishy to me, i will play it tonight to see
Dude it's not fake, that's the actual melee attack rendered in real time!
And Mass Effect? are you kidding me with this?
of course you pic the worst picture. how about this one:
How bout YOU find one where Fenix looks better than Drake. I'm having trouble finding a screen of Uncharted that DOESNT look like a 'cutscene' (i never played it either):? And like i said Fenix always looks like paper mache.. Not so much in Gears 2 though, they fixed him up[QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="ogvampire"] did the melee moves like twice, and i dont remember the camera turning and blurring like that. that pic is fishy to me, i will play it tonight to seeRamadear
Try finding shots of the PC version.
Why would we be comparing PC shots with console ones??? PC graphics crush console graphics... hopefully no one is really trying to argue that point.
[QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]What is that? is that a cutscene? Your never in that view. MOST of the game your in an OTS view behind fenix, and they guy looks like Paper Mache :?here's a better pic of Gears. compare that pic to uncharted now
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_viewer/frame_lead.php?pid=928234&img=91
haze_blaze
No, that's gameplay... think he's just taking cover... either way, still doesn't look as good as Uncharted though.
I couldn't tell. Usually it zooms in when your behind cover, not out.[QUOTE="ogvampire"]What is that? is that a cutscene? Your never in that view. MOST of the game your in an OTS view behind fenix, and they guy looks like Paper Mache :?here's a better pic of Gears. compare that pic to uncharted now
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_viewer/frame_lead.php?pid=928234&img=91
f50p90
no. its gameplay. Gears is a third person shooter, not OTS. its only OTS if you aim.
[QUOTE="legend26"]
RE5 says hellow ;)
haze_blaze
I'll agree on that... can't wait for new footage on RE5. Only problem is that the game was supposed to come out towards the end of 07... and we STILL don't have a release date for it. However, I think that the delays will only lead to it looking even better.
....i cant stop looking at Chris's hair....[QUOTE="sts106mat"]
Graphics King? have you seen this pic from IGN dated 13th May 2008.
your having a laugh
AgentH
That wasn't even from the final BUILT dude.The gameplay is stunning in terms of visuals, I saw Gears 1 and Gears 2 and played Uncharted and Prologue.
It's not BUILT it's BUILD dude! Look at the surface textures they're not that great, Uncharted and GeOW1 had better surface textures with great looking character models. Not dissing MGS but just look at that and what evidence do you have that this is not a final build image?[QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]What is that? is that a cutscene? Your never in that view. MOST of the game your in an OTS view behind fenix, and they guy looks like Paper Mache :?here's a better pic of Gears. compare that pic to uncharted now
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_viewer/frame_lead.php?pid=928234&img=91
ogvampire
no. its gameplay. Gears is a third person shooter, not OTS. its only OTS if you aim.
I know what it is, I own it. I don't remember ever being in a view that shows his whole body, which is why I thought it was a cutscene[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]What is that? is that a cutscene? Your never in that view. MOST of the game your in an OTS view behind fenix, and they guy looks like Paper Mache :?here's a better pic of Gears. compare that pic to uncharted now
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_viewer/frame_lead.php?pid=928234&img=91
f50p90
no. its gameplay. Gears is a third person shooter, not OTS. its only OTS if you aim.
I know what it is, I own it. I don't remember ever being in a view that shows his whole body, which is why I thought it was a cutscenei can believe you own it, but its hard to believe you every played it, seeing how you get into that view everytime you go into cover.
[QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"][QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]Gears character textures? You mean how they were recycled so that EVERY character looked exactly the same, COGs and Locusts alike. and how marcus Fenix's head (ear especially) looked like paper mache? Those character textures???cows are sure a confusing bunch.
if Character textures is what matters most when defining the 'best looking' game, then why is Uncharted known as the console graphics king when Gears had way better character textures?
AgentH
yes those, much better. c'mon from what we've seen the game looks pretty good but not as good as GeoW1 IMO.
From what I have seen, MGS4 looks much better than Gears1 all around. I think there are plenty of games that look better than Gears1 all around. (Not commenting on uncharted, never played) I think Assassins Creed is better looking, Mass Effect, Prologue, just off the top of my head.Gears2 DOES improve on ALOT of the visual gripes I had with Gears1 though. Light being the first and most obvious one.
[QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]What is that? is that a cutscene? Your never in that view. MOST of the game your in an OTS view behind fenix, and they guy looks like Paper Mache :?here's a better pic of Gears. compare that pic to uncharted now
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_viewer/frame_lead.php?pid=928234&img=91
ogvampire
no. its gameplay. Gears is a third person shooter, not OTS. its only OTS if you aim.
I know what it is, I own it. I don't remember ever being in a view that shows his whole body, which is why I thought it was a cutscenei can believe you own it, but its hard to believe you every played it, seeing how you get into that view everytime you go into cover.
Maybe I just dont remember, but something just doesnt seem right about it, like its centered on him when it shouldn't be...IDK... but thats not a good representation of his textures because its too far to seeMass Effect character models looks much better.speedsix
especially with the shadows, and when it dips to 15 fps.
I know what it is, I own it. I don't remember ever being in a view that shows his whole body, which is why I thought it was a cutscenef50p90
i can believe you own it, but its hard to believe you every played it, seeing how you get into that view everytime you go into cover.
Maybe I just dont remember, but something just doesnt seem right about it, like its centered on him when it shouldn't be...IDK... but thats not a good representation of his textures because its too far to seei tried to find a nice sunny picture to compare to Uncharted, but its kinda tough to find in a game like Gears. plus alot of the pics for gears at gamespot are too dark, or a cutscene
MGS4 does not need to be graphics king, it looks great but its strength comes from the story and gameplay which I have a positive feeling they're gonna blow us (series' fans) away !!!!
Malta_1980
FTW
when in cover: the camera angle gets closer if you are indoors, but this is an outdoor pic, thats why the camera is a little farther away.That must be it. Anyway, in the sunlight (that scene where the 4 of them got outside and sit in the grass or whatever) the character textures loook especially bad, so it's best to leave them in the dark.i tried to find a nice sunny picture to compare to Uncharted, but its kinda tough to find in a game like Gears. plus alot of the pics for gears at gamespot are too dark, or a cutscene
ogvampire
I love when cows say ''bu bu bu textures dont matter'' thats the new excuse because most of the ps3 games lack of texture datail, crysis couldnt look good as it is right now if it wasnt for the amazing textures detail it has.., textures are important just as is lighting and shadow effect,framerates and antialiasing and other graphical features.MojondeVACA
lol Crysis again, ok, MGS4 >>>>>> Crysis overall. I am NOT saying MGS4 has better graphics I'm saying MGS4 overall is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better and I'd choose it over Crysis 1,2,3...and any other FPS.
[QUOTE="MojondeVACA"]I love when cows say ''bu bu bu textures dont matter'' thats the new excuse because most of the ps3 games lack of texture datail, crysis couldnt look good as it is right now if it wasnt for the amazing textures detail it has.., textures are important just as is lighting and shadow effect,framerates and antialiasing and other graphical features.AgentH
lol Crysis again, ok, MGS4 >>>>>> Crysis overall. I am NOT saying MGS4 has better graphics I'm saying MGS4 overall is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better and I'd choose it over Crysis 1,2,3...and any other FPS.
u serious :|
the game hasnt even come out yet. fanboy confirmed
I'll decide that when it's on my big HDTV. :) Cutscenes don't prove much, even though they are pretty cutscenes.
[QUOTE="speedsix"]Mass Effect character models looks much better.PSBox3SixWi
especially with the shadows, and when it dips to 15 fps.
typical cow responce, have you played the game? the issues aint as bad as they are made out to be. plus the models do look amazing and much better than those in MGSIV. of corse MGSIV will have much fewer issues than ME did but hey, ME was abitious.
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