MGS4 graphics! King of graphics on consoles!

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#251 thegoldenpoo
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[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"]*drools* awsome shot. i personally think TC is stupid

1. because the shots he provided were CGI

2. because the screens and footage revealed of MGSIV so far look OK but not 'the graphics king'

f50p90

MGS4 doesnt use CGI

those shots were definately not in-engine. there is such a descrepency with the existing screen-shots, prehaps they were promotional images i don't know but NOT rendered using the game engine, look at all the other screenshots of the game.

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#252 f50p90
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[QUOTE="f50p90"]

[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"]*drools* awsome shot. i personally think TC is stupid

1. because the shots he provided were CGI

2. because the screens and footage revealed of MGSIV so far look OK but not 'the graphics king'

thegoldenpoo

MGS4 doesnt use CGI

those shots were definately not in-engine. there is such a descrepency with the existing screen-shots, prehaps they were promotional images i don't know but NOT rendered using the game engine, look at all the other screenshots of the game.

I don't need to explain this to you. Everything in MGS is in engine. it's already PROVEN and CONFIRMED the cutscenes (in engine) look the same as the gameplay. Keep up with your information before trying to bash a game...
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#253 jlh47
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looks good but a little like plastic.
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#254 thegoldenpoo
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[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"][QUOTE="f50p90"]

[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"]*drools* awsome shot. i personally think TC is stupid

1. because the shots he provided were CGI

2. because the screens and footage revealed of MGSIV so far look OK but not 'the graphics king'

f50p90

MGS4 doesnt use CGI

those shots were definately not in-engine. there is such a descrepency with the existing screen-shots, prehaps they were promotional images i don't know but NOT rendered using the game engine, look at all the other screenshots of the game.

I don't need to explain this to you. Everything in MGS is in engine. it's already PROVEN and CONFIRMED the cutscenes (in engine) look the same as the gameplay. Keep up with your information before trying to bash a game...

im not bashing, im REALLY hyped for MGSIV, just not its graphics your not seriously telling me this;

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is in engine, its not. its a Promo pic. so you are owned my friend. go eat some grass or something.

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#255 f50p90
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im not bashing, im REALLY hyped for MGSIV, just not its graphics your not seriously telling me this; is in engine, its not. its a Promo pic. so you are owned my friend. go eat some grass or something.

thegoldenpoo
THAT pic, is from the Japanese drink commercial. Everything in MGS4, is IN ENGINE. The hands on previews CONFIRMED there is seamless transition with cutscenes and gameplay. The REVIEW from OPM confirmed it, and oh yeah, this first 10 minutes video confirms the seamless transition with cutscene and gameplay. your owned. MGS4 doesnt use CGI
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#256 Nolan16
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are people still going on about this i'll be playing my AAA/AAAAE game when you talk about the graphics for the next 3 weeks.
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#257 kostmpekir
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MGS4 has some of the most infdifferent and mediocre visuals this gen, i can't understand if the TC is pulling a joke on us, or he actually ..... means it ??
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#258 PSBox3SixWi
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MGS4 has some of the most infdifferent and mediocre visuals this gen, i can't understand if the TC is pulling a joke on us, or he actually ..... means it ??kostmpekir

graphics=great(though definetly not best)

VISUALS=outstanding.

you really do have to see it in motion.

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#259 kostmpekir
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[QUOTE="kostmpekir"]MGS4 has some of the most infdifferent and mediocre visuals this gen, i can't understand if the TC is pulling a joke on us, or he actually ..... means it ??PSBox3SixWi

graphics=great(though definetly not best)

VISUALS=outstanding.

you really do have to see it in motion.

I ahve to agree that in motion looks better, but would i ever be impressed by such graphics ? no way in hell this gen, they are just working and passable, but impressive are not for me, far from it

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#260 Forensic-Klown
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Resident Evil 5 kills both including gears 2...but whatever.

MGS4 looks superb with some of the best character models, the game has to be played to really appreacite the visuals, stated by many impressions.

Wait and see, pic don't do games justice..thats a FACT!

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#261 AgentH
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MGS4 and all of the MGS games never used CGI, and that picture with the drink uses the MGS4 engine!
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#263 Shadeofgood
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I dont know about you guys, but I have the preorder disc of Metal Gear Saga 2. If you watch the disc, not every version of the trailor has the same detail of graphics. The very first trailor in 2006 looks terrible, at the level of MGS3, but as you go down the list it gets much better.

Now what got my attention and has me wondering more than anything is the Prologue section. If you were to watch that, it blows everything else away, including Crysis and Killzone 2. I can't seem to validate if the actual game looks like it does in the Prologue. If it does, then I know for a fact this will be the best looking game in its time.

I owned Uncharted, Gears of War and so far this game blows both of them out from what I am seeing.

If someone knows about the Prologue, and has played the actual game, please give me some type of hint to let me know if that is how the final version of the game looks.

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#264 Polaris_choice
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[QUOTE="AgentH"]MGS4 and all of the MGS games never used CGI, and that picture with the drink uses the MGS4 engine!sts106mat

it may well use the engine, the faces of the Gears soldiers looked so much better in the cut scenes than in gameplay, and all they were "in engine" are you seriously trying to say that the pic of snakes face is taken from gameplay, i cannot see the "its not final build" quotes holding up come release when you all get your shoddy textures and what appears to be bog standard gameplay graphics, which lets face it, games have been this way for-ever cutscenes are rendered better than gameplay. its a FACT - anyone who disagrees is a blind fanboy, (in more than one sense)

Um are maybe you are just clueless? Try rotating the camera by snakes face close up during gameplay and you will see it looks identical to what it does in cutscenes this goes for all MGS games always has and always will be. The only thing cutscenes do diffrently is add dramatic camera effects.

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#265 terdoo
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[QUOTE="AgentH"]

And these are captured from a LOW/STANDARD resolution video! This is what the final built look like!

Snake1

Snake2

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LOL.....Looks good but still not as good as Gears of War or Uncharted. Mass Effect says hello as well....

Gears of War has much better looking face textures.

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#267 Shadeofgood
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[QUOTE="Polaris_choice"][QUOTE="sts106mat"]

[QUOTE="AgentH"]MGS4 and all of the MGS games never used CGI, and that picture with the drink uses the MGS4 engine!sts106mat

it may well use the engine, the faces of the Gears soldiers looked so much better in the cut scenes than in gameplay, and all they were "in engine" are you seriously trying to say that the pic of snakes face is taken from gameplay, i cannot see the "its not final build" quotes holding up come release when you all get your shoddy textures and what appears to be bog standard gameplay graphics, which lets face it, games have been this way for-ever cutscenes are rendered better than gameplay. its a FACT - anyone who disagrees is a blind fanboy, (in more than one sense)

Um are maybe you are just clueless? Try rotating the camera by snakes face close up during gameplay and you will see it looks identical to what it does in cutscenes this goes for all MGS games always has and always will be. The only thing cutscenes do diffrently is add dramatic camera effects.

i dont think i am clueless. i just dont see how it can be true, there is no way that is a rendered face in real time gameplay. i will believe it when i see it. how come all the other "gameplay" screenshots look average, the textures are terrible and bland, why have some amazing detail on the face of the character during gameplay, (you aren't looking at the characters face am i wrong) and have the environments look crap. i am not denying its a nice looking game, but it just doesn't hold up to the gameplay screenshots. look earlier in the thread where i posted the pics of the oil barrel and snake sniping from a lying position. i personally dont care if the face is as good as you say it is, but those screens are not impressive in any way. just try and deny it.

It may be true. Check these out. All from this website http://metalgearsolid4.net/2008/05/16/22-new-metal-gear-solid-4-screenshots.html

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#269 Mordred19
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the top picture isn't even from a cutscene. it's just a promo image.
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#270 metalgear-solid
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I would believe MGS4 is indeed the current Console King of Graphics. I guess it all depends on what aspect of the graphics you value the most. For sure, there are certain aspects which are better in Gears 2 or Uncharted, but in my opinion MGS4 definitely offers the overall best graphical package.

Although next year either Killzone 2 or Resident Evil 5 ought to take the title.

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#271 caseypayne69
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Mass Effect character models looks much better.speedsix
Yet, MGS4 has awesome gameplay and tons of things on screen, where's Mass Effect has e gad pop up and not as much on screen going on. MGS4 for the win.
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#272 caseypayne69
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When Uncharted came out reviews said, NEW GRAPHICS king. When Gears 2 came out no one said anything. Uncharted > Gears 2 textures. MGS4 > Gears 2 > Uncharted things happening on screen.
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#273 lebanese_boy
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Looks awesome. Looks like kojima put a lot of work into character models :)ChrnoTrigger
Kojima? Oh I don't think Kojima has anything to do with the character models. That would be the graphic designers who you should be thanking for the game's visual quality, Kojima is the game designer; he works in conceptional stages of the game.
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#274 thespywholied
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why was this bumped
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#275 obamanian
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I happen to own MGS4, and the in game visuals are totally nothing special, levels are usually tiny too, or rather empty if they are bigger, nothing to even call great there

Talk about overhyped stuff

It is obvious to me that the TC has never seen Uncharted in person

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#276 -Mad_Rhetoric-
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atleast it looks better than that cartoon uncharted
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#277 metalgear-solid
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atleast it looks better than that cartoon uncharted-Mad_Rhetoric-
I happen to agree on that one. Uncharted was way too cartoonish.
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#278 naruto7777
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yes but it is the best game ever made currently
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#279 voxware00
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my friend is a huge mgs fan and he owns a 360 and ps3

he was not entirely impressed with mgs4 though... not like he played gears or anything other than cod:waw recently to compare but he was asking me what the best looking console game is, i told him mgs 4 was in the debate with gears and uncharted and he didn't really think mgs4 looked amazing

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#280 metalgear-solid
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Also, what other games have managed to create cutscenes that looked that amazing, despite all of it being real-time?
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#281 one_on_one
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I agree MGS4 has the best graphics on the PS3, not only it looks the best it's the overall best game on the PS3. I have a feeling Killzone 2 will take it's place next year.

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#282 skullgangs
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This topic fails .....
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#283 robobie
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atleast it looks better than that cartoon uncharted-Mad_Rhetoric-

Nothing beats uncharted..! And it doesn't look cartoony

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y180/nchoudhury/Uncharted%20Grabs/Uncharted5.jpg

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#284 Gameslave_
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[QUOTE="-Mad_Rhetoric-"]atleast it looks better than that cartoon unchartedrobobie

Nothing beats uncharted..! And it doesn't look cartoony

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y180/nchoudhury/Uncharted%20Grabs/Uncharted5.jpg

lol and uncharted 2 looks way better too but when you think about HOW MUCH is going on under the hood so to speak with MGS4, its still the most technically advanced game ever made no doubt.
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#285 Gameslave_
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yeah uncharted had real EYE POPPING visuals. but MGS4 looks beautiful throughout. Besides, MGS games always went for a mixture between real/anime look in its graphics. more stylized. Uncharted goes for straight up realism.

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#286 Grady420
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As of right now GEOW2 is console graphics king, it has won numerous polls here. And don't say polls mean nothing bc cows were not saying that when we did the same for Uncharted which was the consolse graphics king, MGS4 never was. Killzone 2 will dethrone Gears and then RE5, Alan Wake, Heavy Rain and Uncharted 2 will have something to say later on.

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#287 Grady420
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[QUOTE="Gameslave_"]

yeah uncharted had real EYE POPPING visuals. but MGS4 looks beautiful throughout. Besides, MGS games always went for a mixture between real/anime look in its graphics. more stylized. Uncharted goes for straight up realism.

Uncharted goes for straight up realism? Yeah no buddy, it looks like wax but still beautiful.
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#288 iWant2Win
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As of right now GEOW2 is console graphics king, it has won numerous polls here. And don't say polls mean nothing bc cows were not saying that when we did the same for Uncharted which was the consolse graphics king, MGS4 never was. Killzone 2 will dethrone Gears and then RE5, Alan Wake, Heavy Rain and Uncharted 2 will have something to say later on.

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So i take it we've all forgotten Heavy Rain, working PS3 Title? If you have, i suggest you recap: http://uk.gamespot.com/ps3/adventure/heavyrain/index.html?tag=result;title;7 As i haven;t taken a look at it myself for a while i cant remember if the gfx are THE best, but i know there way up there and sense of emotion conveyed should be at the top of the list in my opinion.
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#289 pyromaniac223
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[QUOTE="robobie"]

[QUOTE="-Mad_Rhetoric-"]atleast it looks better than that cartoon unchartedGameslave_

Nothing beats uncharted..! And it doesn't look cartoony

lol and uncharted 2 looks way better too but when you think about HOW MUCH is going on under the hood so to speak with MGS4, its still the most technically advanced game ever made no doubt.

ever made....
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#290 polishkid99
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this topic is from march why are you guys still in it? :|
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#291 hopesfall2own
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this topic is from march why are you guys still in it? :|polishkid99
probably because people earlier were saying no one hyped MGS4's graphics as the best ever on consoles. That'd be my guess. :lol:
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#292 Juggernaut140
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MGS4 looked mediocre That is all
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#293 mezzo20
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your ok MGS4 owned every game.