Microsoft E3 2010 Press Conference + Kinect + Slim Xbox360 -KEEP IT HERE!-

Kotaku has echoed IGN's suspicion that Kinect isn't capable of mapping a seated person.

Another thing that had me wondering was how well Kinect actually functions with the smaller children that some of the software seems targetted at, and their smaller frames, (since I'm of the opinion that the Kinectimals stage demo was actually pre-recorded). E3 isn't really rife with small children as far as I'm aware, and it's difficult to tell from the latter portion of the Parade Magazine video (but it doesn't look like it's mapping as well).

I still can't get that horrible taste out of my mouth after this conference. I was so excited to see some new stuff that wasn't meant for my little cousins.

I still can't get that horrible taste out of my mouth after this conference. I was so excited to see some new stuff that wasn't meant for my little cousins.

Wasdie

Why did Heroes of Move look better then everything Kinetic releated shown? Hell, i'd say it was more interesrting then the Gears footage.(Which looked exactly like gears 2, with added arm beatings)

sure this year was horrible but i still find it was better then last year's

So ... no? Nothing from Rare? 343?

-Snooze-

I really don't think we will hear anything from 343 Industries until after Reach.

Apparently someone decided to keep everything Microsoft related in here. Oh well. Enjoy.

Wow it was even worse then I thought it would be, and I thought it would be pretty bad. To be fair, Sony didn't show everything I was expecting either, but it still destroyed MS's conference.

Retailers agree on $150 Kinect - Retail Radar

Well there you go, too heavy for my wallet.

Retailers agree on $150 Kinect - Retail Radar

Well there you go, too heavy for my wallet.

R3FURBISHED

LOOOOL They even overcharge for failures! WOW MS... Just leave the industry and go pack to making PC software...

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Retailers agree on $150 Kinect - Retail Radar

Well there you go, too heavy for my wallet.

Cherokee_Jack

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Retailers agree on $150 Kinect - Retail Radar

Well there you go, too heavy for my wallet.

Cherokee_Jack

Glad to say I have never bought a Guitar Hero/Rock Band/DJ Hero before.

For someone like me, I don't care about the games (at least now, the new Lionhead may change my mind) I was very impressed with the dashboard navigation features. It doesn't justify that price though.

Bungie just released a new trailer on Bnet. Firefight 2.0

LOOOOL They even overcharge for failures! WOW MS... Just leave the industry and go pack to making PC software...

Mestitia

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Retailers agree on $150 Kinect - Retail Radar

Well there you go, too heavy for my wallet.

Chutebox

Bungie just released a new trailer on Bnet. Firefight 2.0

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And they even included matchmaking this time. Thank you, Bungie. :D

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Retailers agree on $150 Kinect - Retail Radar

Well there you go, too heavy for my wallet.

Chutebox

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Bungie just released a new trailer on Bnet. Firefight 2.0

SpiritOfFire117

And they even included matchmaking this time. Thank you, Bungie. :D

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LOOOOL They even overcharge for failures! WOW MS... Just leave the industry and go pack to making PC software...

ohthemanatee

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"][QUOTE="Mestitia"]

LOOOOL They even overcharge for failures! WOW MS... Just leave the industry and go pack to making PC software...

Mestitia

reading is fun

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"][QUOTE="Mestitia"]

LOOOOL They even overcharge for failures! WOW MS... Just leave the industry and go pack to making PC software...

Mestitia

I think future installments (games) will justify the price. Plus I absolutely love the voice communication, and dashboard navigation.

[QUOTE="Mestitia"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"] hahaha yes, it's totaly microsoft's fault that retailers are speculating on the price :roll: Sony should just leave the console business and go back to making walkman'sR3FURBISHED

I think future installments (games) will justify the price. Plus I absolutely love the voice communication, and dashboard navigation.

lol, cows sure do hate Kinect dont they? Its amazing how many hate comments/threads are made each day about it. Kinda makes me chuckle to see so many fanboys so insecure about a casual toy. :P navyguy21

lol, cows sure do hate Kinect dont they? Its amazing how many hate comments/threads are made each day about it. Kinda makes me chuckle to see so many fanboys so insecure about a casual toy. :P navyguy21

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]lol, cows sure do hate Kinect dont they? Its amazing how many hate comments/threads are made each day about it. Kinda makes me chuckle to see so many fanboys so insecure about a casual toy. :P TintedEyes

but you don't really see that many threads bashing move

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"][QUOTE="navyguy21"]lol, cows sure do hate Kinect dont they? Its amazing how many hate comments/threads are made each day about it. Kinda makes me chuckle to see so many fanboys so insecure about a casual toy. :P ohthemanatee

but you don't really see that many threads bashing move

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]lol, cows sure do hate Kinect dont they? Its amazing how many hate comments/threads are made each day about it. Kinda makes me chuckle to see so many fanboys so insecure about a casual toy. :P ohthemanatee

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[QUOTE="TintedEyes"] As lems hate moveTintedEyes

but you don't really see that many threads bashing move

no, you don't

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[QUOTE="TintedEyes"] As lems hate moveTintedEyes

but you don't really see that many threads bashing move

Retailers agree on $150 Kinect - Retail Radar

Well there you go, too heavy for my wallet.

R3FURBISHED

Well to be fair... if you want Move up to par with Kinect (meaning two players) you are going to please $210 dollars.

$100 for camera + controller

$60 for 2 moving controllers (the small ones)

and $50 for the second remote controller.

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

but you don't really see that many threads bashing move

ohthemanatee

no, you don't

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

but you don't really see that many threads bashing move

navyguy21

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="TintedEyes"] of course you do, calling sony copycats, just a wii-mote etc.TintedEyes

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="TintedEyes"] of course you do, calling sony copycats, just a wii-mote etc.TintedEyes

Oh please, there've been plenty of hate threads for both, is the forum now going to become Victim Complex Wars?

There was a thread about how Move has Oh Em Gee, rechargeable internal batteries. Oh noez! :/

Kinect is an interesting idea in theory, in practice it has yet to show anything particularly compelling.

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[QUOTE="navyguy21"]and there are 10x the amount of Kinect/MS/Natal/360 hate threads. Just flip through the first 5 pages and tell me im wrong..................navyguy21

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Retailers agree on $150 Kinect - Retail Radar

Well there you go, too heavy for my wallet.

spinecaton

Well to be fair... if you want Move up to par with Kinect (meaning two players) you are going to please $210 dollars.

$100 for camera + controller

$60 for 2 moving controllers (the small ones)

and $50 for the second remote controller.

Oh please, there've been plenty of hate threads for both, is the forum now going to become Victim Complex Wars?

There was a thread about how Move has Oh Em Gee, rechargeable internal batteries. Oh noez! :/

Kinect is an interesting idea in theory, in practice it has yet to show anything particularly compelling.

shinrabanshou

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="TintedEyes"] right npw there is none since there are stickys well see when the stickys go down, btw 10x is a big exaggeration.

TintedEyes

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Retailers agree on $150 Kinect - Retail Radar

Well there you go, too heavy for my wallet.

RogueShodown

Well to be fair... if you want Move up to par with Kinect (meaning two players) you are going to please $210 dollars.

$100 for camera + controller

$60 for 2 moving controllers (the small ones)

and $50 for the second remote controller.

Well the breakout type game and probably the dance central game. Really though, we don't have a lot of software yet to compare it to. In was only a comparison, not like I plan on buying any of the new stuff anyway.

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[QUOTE="TintedEyes"] As lems hate moveTintedEyes

but you don't really see that many threads bashing move

Natal and Move get the same amount of hate...until recently because of the "games" MS showed for Natal.

And you know what, the hate is damn justified.

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Retailers agree on $150 Kinect - Retail Radar

Well there you go, too heavy for my wallet.

spinecaton

Well to be fair... if you want Move up to par with Kinect (meaning two players) you are going to please $210 dollars.

$100 for camera + controller

$60 for 2 moving controllers (the small ones)

and $50 for the second remote controller.

PS2 comes up with EYE toy first on console to use motion controls. PS3 will cost 600.00 so will not be AT ALL wanted by casuals so Sony does not focus on Casual games or motion controls but puts it on the back bunner. SONY HAS the studio and the people that worked on EYEtoy on its payroll doing what NOTHING??!!!! no working on motion controls. Sony already has pattents on a controler that uses gyroscopes and is working on lots of R&D.

Nintendo COPYS( LOLNO, but the idea does not come out of thin air) PS2 eyetoy with motion controls since Sony had it first (sticks out toung like all first graders)

Sony then copies Nintendo kind of whit 6 axis as they just made it up on the spot. Sony had nothing was working on nothing what... R&D does anyone mean (sarcasim) NO they do not, Sony made it up on the spot. Sony had NOTHING before Wii showed off their first numchuck and Wii remote.

Then since Sony was NEVER going to updatge its Motion Controls with the Eyetoy even though they had a new HD camera SO WHAT that means NOTHING!! They never would have updated Eyetoy NEVER, even if they were paying their enginers to work on a new eyetoy it was not even going to be anything like want Wii was going to have untill they saw it.

And even though Time of flight cameras are nothing new, and Sony was already looking into this area along with other areas what MS has done is revolutionary, even though it takes what they EYEtoy did and updates it with Infared camera for distance. and thought some of the game play is simular to some of the games on eyetoy it means nothing.

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I still can't get that horrible taste out of my mouth after this conference. I was so excited to see some new stuff that wasn't meant for my little cousins.

Stevo_the_gamer

He doesn't though, he's actually 100% correct. The problem with Kinect is the same one that faces the SEGA CD and 32X. Since it's going to be a $150+ add-on, developers can't be certain you'll own one. Core game developers who spend tens of millions on a game can't make exclusives for it *because that will kill their sales*. That means any exclusive Kinect content will be inexpensive software aimed at the casual crowd, it has to be, it won't have the sales to support doing anything else.

Tacked-on Kinect support to existing games will be just that, and at some point Kinect just fails.

And since we all basically know that at some level (even the people deeply in denial are aware, that's why they react so violently) we're just sitting here waiting for the next Xbox. We know that's the next logical move for when Kinect doesn't make the market penetration it's supposed to... and as for the "this is an experiment" crowd, if MS' next console doesn't have some other form of controller as standard, it will simply fail.

I don't get the argument that Move is more expensive.
For 50$ you can get a Move controller and add 30$ for a navigator...at the most you lose 80$ and can enjoy motion sensing right away.
With Kinect you have to pay 150$ in order enjoy controller-less gaming...it doesn't matter if you have 20 or 1 people playing your 360...you need to fork out 150$ to use any motion sensing at all.