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I'm pointing the hypocrisy of saying that it is ok for noble and righteous human beings to copy songs that are copyrighted material from record companies but somehow only the scum of the Earth misuse the copyrighted material of M$.RedruM_I
Point out where anyone in this thread said it's OK to DL illegal MP3's
Piracy is illegal. But on the other hand, Microsoft should stop monopolizaing their crap and give people more choices.
[QUOTE="RedruM_I"] I'm pointing the hypocrisy of saying that it is ok for noble and righteous human beings to copy songs that are copyrighted material from record companies but somehow only the scum of the Earth misuse the copyrighted material of M$.masiisam
Point out where anyone in this thread said it's OK to DL illegal MP3's
Non said that. But many said "Those pirates are scum and should receive their deserved punishment!!!" or something along those lines, like M$ vs. pirates is something like good vs. evil. I'm just saying don't throw bricks when you live in a glass house.[QUOTE="RedruM_I"][QUOTE="kolkov01"]I find this very interesting given the fact that sony is just as bad as microsoftkolkov01Not for me. M$ is one of the worse companies in the world IMO. Let me guess the reason: They're competing with the with playstation No I actually disliked them before they came into the console business. Their business practices in the OS world is enough to see how crap that company is.
[QUOTE="masiisam"][QUOTE="RedruM_I"] I'm pointing the hypocrisy of saying that it is ok for noble and righteous human beings to copy songs that are copyrighted material from record companies but somehow only the scum of the Earth misuse the copyrighted material of M$.RedruM_I
Point out where anyone in this thread said it's OK to DL illegal MP3's
Non said that. But many said "Those pirates are scum and should receive their deserved punishment!!!" or something along those lines, like M$ vs. pirates is something like good vs. evil. I'm just saying don't throw bricks when you live in a glass house.So your justifying what you do..And the scum of the earth comment hit too close to home…I see now...
Just because you break the law by speeding does not make it a fact that "so does everyone else"
[QUOTE="kolkov01"][QUOTE="RedruM_I"] Not for me. M$ is one of the worse companies in the world IMO.RedruM_ILet me guess the reason: They're competing with the with playstation No I actually disliked them before they came into the console business. Their business practices in the OS world is enough to see how crap that company is. Buying out the compition? I seem to recall similar business moves from nintendo and sony
Non said that. But many said "Those pirates are scum and should receive their deserved punishment!!!" or something along those lines, like M$ vs. pirates is something like good vs. evil. I'm just saying don't throw bricks when you live in a glass house.[QUOTE="RedruM_I"][QUOTE="masiisam"]
Point out where anyone in this thread said it's OK to DL illegal MP3's
masiisam
So your justifying what you do..And the scum of the earth comment hit too close to home…I see now...
Just because you break the law by speeding does not make it a fact that "so does everyone else"
I'm not going about calling people scum for doing something that I do yes, but then you or anybody else also shouldn't. You never answered my question, have you ever copied a mp3 from a friend? a cd? downloaded a song? I find hard to believe that in this day and age somebody with a computer haven't done any copyright infringement at any time.[QUOTE="masiisam"][QUOTE="RedruM_I"] Non said that. But many said "Those pirates are scum and should receive their deserved punishment!!!" or something along those lines, like M$ vs. pirates is something like good vs. evil. I'm just saying don't throw bricks when you live in a glass house.RedruM_I
So your justifying what you do..And the scum of the earth comment hit too close to home…I see now...
Just because you break the law by speeding does not make it a fact that "so does everyone else"
I'm not going about calling people scum for doing something that I do yes, but then you or anybody else also shouldn't. You never answered my question, have you ever copied a mp3 from a friend? a cd? downloaded a song? I find hard to believe that in this day and age somebody with a computer haven't done any copyright infringement at any time."Just because you break the law by speeding does not make it a fact that "so does everyone else"
A spade is just a spade...
I'm not going about calling people scum for doing something that I do yes, but then you or anybody else also shouldn't. You never answered my question, have you ever copied a mp3 from a friend? a cd? downloaded a song? I find hard to believe that in this day and age somebody with a computer haven't done any copyright infringement at any time.[QUOTE="RedruM_I"][QUOTE="masiisam"]
So your justifying what you do..And the scum of the earth comment hit too close to home…I see now...
Just because you break the law by speeding does not make it a fact that "so does everyone else"
masiisam
"Just because you break the law by speeding does not make it a fact that "so does everyone else"
A spade is just a spade...
So you speed and doesn't get caught and now you're getting all righteous with someone and calling them scum because they got caught? Like I said, hypocrisy.See what I did there?RedruM_I
anybody who posts this after an argument proves the following:
1) their post will have no substance
2) the closest to an argument they can produce is the same thing as 'no u'
I guess it's only fair then when a 120 gb hard drive cost $100 and you can't use another brands hard drive with-out the chance of getting banned now? Why do you lemmings side with getting ripped off? Seriously. I can get a terrabyte hard-drive from any manufactuer and place it in my ps3 without voiding the warranty , hell instructions on how to do this are in the ps3 manual - and at the same $100 cost of the 120gb , thats ps3 -1000gb vs 120gb for the same money... of course people are going to want to do that! Not everyone with a custom hd on 360 is a pirtate, they do sell movie rentals, demos and you can put you videos demos, mp3s and photos on there can't you? that takes up space you know. I have a 320gb hd in my ps3, guess what I only have 60gb left from all the stuff i download from the psn store or that I transfer over.Midnightshade29
this argument is absurd for several reasons.
1) if you want increased storage space for movies and music, you can attach anexternal hard drive, or your computer, to your xbox 360. if an old man like myself can do this there is literally no reason why a generation of people raised around computers cant figure it out.
2) the price argument is a non argument. whether it is fair or not is irrelevant, because there is no benchmark for 'fair' when an item is a total luxury. the only people who think 'fair' enters this equation are people with an entitlement mentality. hdds are not like food, water, or shelter. theyre for spoiled people who like to burn through money on worthless toys like you and me.
i agree the prices are GOUGING. theres no doubt about that. but thems the breaks when it comes to stuff like this.
Piracy is illegal. But on the other hand, Microsoft should stop monopolizaing their crap and give people more choices.
RadecSupreme
im with this guy
[QUOTE="masiisam"][QUOTE="RedruM_I"] I'm not going about calling people scum for doing something that I do yes, but then you or anybody else also shouldn't. You never answered my question, have you ever copied a mp3 from a friend? a cd? downloaded a song? I find hard to believe that in this day and age somebody with a computer haven't done any copyright infringement at any time.RedruM_I
"Just because you break the law by speeding does not make it a fact that "so does everyone else"
A spade is just a spade...
So you speed and doesn't get caught and now you're getting all righteous with someone and calling them scum because they got caught? Like I said, hypocrisy.I called pirates scum of the earth if they get caught or not..If you happen to pirate goods or services and took offence from what I said……I simply don't care…
A spade is just a spade....
[QUOTE="OneLazyAsian"][QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]
lol who cares if they banned the hackers at a time so they would feel the pain. Microsoft can ban them when they want and thats the risk of being a hacker.
Dick_Derringer
Yes, cause wanting a reasonably priced HDD is hacking.
Technically it is. You violate the EULA by modifying your console. Which means MS is totally within their rights to ban you.But the hard drive is external to the console itself. I can take it off, and it's designed to be taken off and can be run without it--ergo, it's not an integral part of the console.So what if you sue because they kicked you out even though you didn't break the rules? It's like being thrown out of the bar after just having two beers and having a friendly end-of-the-day chat with your buds (which BTW is perfectly normal and acceptable in a bar--two beers is well within most people's tolerances).lol @ this. You can't sue someone because they kicked you out for breaking the rules... especially if they told you in advance that they'd kick you out if you broke the rules.
Senor_Kami
[QUOTE="RedruM_I"]See what I did there?CaptainHarley
anybody who posts this after an argument proves the following:
1) their post will have no substance
2) the closest to an argument they can produce is the same thing as 'no u'
So you're basically telling me I have no argument by selectively quoting me and not arguing what I said? What is with people today accusing others of their own delusions?
[QUOTE="hot114"]
* Disabling/altering Xbox functionality *NOT* associated with Xbox Live or piracy (HDD functionality for example);
* Disabling/altering Xbox functionality *NOT* associated with piracy (Netflix, game add-ons, music, and arcade games for example);
Furthermore, Xbox console functions that have nothing to do with piracy were also affected or disabled.
hot114
A friend o'mine has a HDD with MS certification but it's not from microsoft per-se (kinda like mad cat products), well guess what, he's in the ban list thanks to that.
[QUOTE="hot114"]
[QUOTE="hot114"]
* Disabling/altering Xbox functionality *NOT* associated with Xbox Live or piracy (HDD functionality for example);
* Disabling/altering Xbox functionality *NOT* associated with piracy (Netflix, game add-ons, music, and arcade games for example);
Furthermore, Xbox console functions that have nothing to do with piracy were also affected or disabled.
_TheJoker_
A friend o'mine has a HDD with MS certification but it's not from microsoft per-se (kinda like mad cat products), well guess what, he's in the ban list thanks to that.
Now that could have a case. Even if it's aftermarket, if the part carries a Microsoft seal, that means Microsoft vouched for it. If Microsoft bans for a part they themselves vouched for, they're reneging, and you (or probably Mad Catz) can take Microsoft to court for breach of contract on those grounds.[QUOTE="hot114"]
* Disabling/altering Xbox functionality *NOT* associated with Xbox Live or piracy (HDD functionality for example);
* Disabling/altering Xbox functionality *NOT* associated with piracy (Netflix, game add-ons, music, and arcade games for example);
Furthermore, Xbox console functions that have nothing to do with piracy were also affected or disabled.
hot114
[QUOTE="mythrol"][QUOTE="RedruM_I"] They are not modding the drive, they are modding the cooling hardware. I'm just saying that maybe some people modding it to use generic HDs didn't actually plan to pirate but just wanted a cheaper HD option than to get milked with the propietary HD sold by M$.HuusAskingThis is like buying a new car that gets a certain MPG and hacking into the electronics to chip it and get better efficiency. It still voids the warranty because you're agreeing to use it in a closed, manageable system. People know the price of HDDs for the 360 before they bought one. Suddenly AFTER you making your purchase you feel entitled to a cheaper option? I feel I should be paid more per hour. Do I steal office supplies because I feel entitled? The world doesn't work that way son.It can. If my friend across the street works the exact same job and is paid considerably more, I might start taking it up with the higher-ups, especially if I get the competition to make advances on me. No boss worth his salt will want a defection.Do you have a job or even worked in the corporate world? They don't give a flying rats ass what your friend makes, they'll get someone who will work for they salary they are paying. Where is this place fantasyland?
Do you have a job or even worked in the corporate world? They don't give a flying rats ass what your friend makes, they'll get someone who will work for they salary they are paying. Where is this place fantasyland?I want to live in such a place. :oheretrix
So first all pirates harm the industry (nevermind people with no intention to buy Or no money) then all keys from importers are abusing the low prices for developing nations (nevermind the absurd high prices in some regions) and now all mods are banworthy?
It can. If my friend across the street works the exact same job and is paid considerably more, I might start taking it up with the higher-ups, especially if I get the competition to make advances on me. No boss worth his salt will want a defection.Do you have a job or even worked in the corporate world? They don't give a flying rats ass what your friend makes, they'll get someone who will work for they salary they are paying. Where is this place fantasyland?And what if you're a specialist and replacements are few and hotly contested?[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="mythrol"] This is like buying a new car that gets a certain MPG and hacking into the electronics to chip it and get better efficiency. It still voids the warranty because you're agreeing to use it in a closed, manageable system. People know the price of HDDs for the 360 before they bought one. Suddenly AFTER you making your purchase you feel entitled to a cheaper option? I feel I should be paid more per hour. Do I steal office supplies because I feel entitled? The world doesn't work that way son.heretrix
Is it possible to last like years with a modded xbox 360 console and not get banned?blazingneo32089It's possible if the mod was one of the more sophisticated ones that only the latest update can detect.
So fanboys are so needy for a score for their team, they'll actually side with the pirates as the "good guys" and Microsoft as the "bad guys" in this case??
Wow. Talk about a new low. :lol:
[QUOTE="blazingneo32089"]Is it possible to last like years with a modded xbox 360 console and not get banned?HuusAskingIt's possible if the mod was one of the more sophisticated ones that only the latest update can detect. So what if u don't have Live?
"Additionally, sales of both Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (published by Activision) and Halo 3: ODST (published by Microsoft Game Studios) would likely have been greatly diminished had the Xbox console ban occurred prior to the release of these games."
How does this help sales of those games if the banned 360s were using pirated copies anyways?
I don't think they've really thought it through lol.
[QUOTE="heretrix"]Do you have a job or even worked in the corporate world? They don't give a flying rats ass what your friend makes, they'll get someone who will work for they salary they are paying. Where is this place fantasyland?And what if you're a specialist and replacements are few and hotly contested?[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]It can. If my friend across the street works the exact same job and is paid considerably more, I might start taking it up with the higher-ups, especially if I get the competition to make advances on me. No boss worth his salt will want a defection.HuusAsking
Doesn't matter. When you start a job, you probably sign an offer letter that explicitly lists that offered salary and that you agree to that as your starting wage. Employment is a totally voluntary agreement. Both parties can opt to end the agreement at any point.
In other words, you're free to quit, if you think you can get a better paycheck elsewhere.
Or you can go right ahead and talk to your boss and bring up the competition, and ask for a raise. Nothing wrong with that. And they can say no. Nothing wrong with that either.
But (looping this back to the original topic), you don't have a legal leg to stand on if you think you can sue your current employer because a competitor offers better pay.
Ah, I love it when I'm right. I called this whole ordeal the first time I heard of the banning. It's like right after MW2 MS all of a sudden notices "Oh wowwy! We have hackers!?" like they didn't know prior to it. Not only will they make a killing off of renewed XBL subscriptions, but also by the fact that people will have to buy another Xbox. Just in time for the Holiday Season too.
Well played, Microsoft, well played...
Boo freaking hoo. I don't care that they are pirating but accept the consequences dammit. albi321I have no problem with them banning people with modded Xbox's, but I'm sure MS really just did it for money, not because they really care that much about modders. They could've doe this a really long time ago, yet they choose to do it at a time where huge games are being released. Almost everything MS does is for money.
you got that right- who on earth mods their xbox 360 just to use a different HDD?... nobody that's who.If you chip your xbox and then continue to play online you are pretty dumb, its obvious they are going to detect you and ban you. People saying 'I just chipped is so I could use another hard-drive, I'd never play a copied game' are being disingenuous to say the least.
MoodyGeisha
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