Miyamoto: 2009 Nintendo Games Not "Fun Enough"

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#1 PSP107
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http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3178494

Not just 2009 for me but going back to N64 is when it started.

64 did had some hits though but they didnt last. I wonder did cartridges ruined it for n64

Gamecube was weak while the wii is not for mii

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#2 chikenfriedrice
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he's right Nintendo games have not been fun enough

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#3 PSP107
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actually the posters at 1up are saying he was refering to the indusrty as a whole
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actually the posters at 1up are saying he was refering to the indusrty as a wholePSP107

oh then he is wrong....this gen has been a blast for me with the 360/PS3/PC

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"I think it is obvious that when everyone is connected online, there will be enormous opportunity for me to create something really unique," Miyamoto said. "But my job is to try to entertain as many people as possible, and I see all Wii owners as the audience. Of course, we have Mario Kart, which can be played online by multiple people. So we are gradually expanding the experiences using the Internet, but my own personal focus is to try to entertain people, even if they are not connected to the Internet. That is my first priority."

I wish every dev was like this... maybe we wouldn't have games with 4 hours campaigns and what not.

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This is what I've been saying, Nintendo has got to take care of the Wii audience.

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"I think it is obvious that when everyone is connected online, there will be enormous opportunity for me to create something really unique," Miyamoto said. "But my job is to try to entertain as many people as possible, and I see all Wii owners as the audience. Of course, we have Mario Kart, which can be played online by multiple people. So we are gradually expanding the experiences using the Internet, but my own personal focus is to try to entertain people, even if they are not connected to the Internet. That is my first priority."

I wish every dev was like this... maybe we wouldn't have games with 4 hours campaigns and what not.

Espada12

Agreed that the first goal should be to try to entertain people. Entertainment can be fun, exciting, scary, whatever, but if the game isn't entertaining it does fall fall flat.

As for games not being fun enough, I disagree. I am having a lot of fun with many different games and genres right now. Personally, I think if he feels that games aren't fun he shouldn't focus on Wii Music. :P Okay, I'm bashing it without playing it but I stand by my statement.

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This is what I've been saying, Nintendo has got to take care of the Wii audience.

SolidTy
Thats why we have at least three AAA-calebre first party games scheduled to be released this year. Also a couple years ago Metriod 3, SMG and Brawl were all released within 12 months of eachother. Nintendo just hasn't been spacing thier games up enough :P
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actually the posters at 1up are saying he was refering to the indusrty as a wholePSP107
Then he obviously hasnt played MW2, Uncharted 2, and Left 4 Dead 2. Maybe they are too mature for him?
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Oh boy, can't wait to read what Sony fans have to say.

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[QUOTE="PSP107"]actually the posters at 1up are saying he was refering to the indusrty as a wholeMarcus_Hale
Then he obviously hasnt played MW2, Uncharted 2, and Left 4 Dead 2. Maybe they are too mature for him?

arent opinions fun?

there is no point in listing games in trying to prove an opinion wrong

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[QUOTE="PSP107"]actually the posters at 1up are saying he was refering to the indusrty as a wholeMarcus_Hale
Then he obviously hasnt played MW2, Uncharted 2, and Left 4 Dead 2. Maybe they are too mature for him?

Sigworthy.
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"I think it is obvious that when everyone is connected online, there will be enormous opportunity for me to create something really unique," Miyamoto said. "But my job is to try to entertain as many people as possible, and I see all Wii owners as the audience. Of course, we have Mario Kart, which can be played online by multiple people. So we are gradually expanding the experiences using the Internet, but my own personal focus is to try to entertain people, even if they are not connected to the Internet. That is my first priority."

I wish every dev was like this... maybe we wouldn't have games with 4 hours campaigns and what not.

Espada12

Well this is coming from the same company who said online is just a fad and fans really dont want it just sounds like an excuse to me :P

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[QUOTE="BattleTurtles"][QUOTE="Marcus_Hale"][QUOTE="PSP107"] I would love to be sigged. ;)

[QUOTE="Marcus_Hale"][QUOTE="PSP107"]actually the posters at 1up are saying he was refering to the indusrty as a wholeogvampire

Then he obviously hasnt played MW2, Uncharted 2, and Left 4 Dead 2. Maybe they are too mature for him?

arent opinions fun?

there is no point in listing games in trying to prove an opinion wrong

I know it's just his opinion. I respect that and I respect Miyamoto for what he's done for the gaming industry. What I said was a joking way of saying I disagree. Nothing more.
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Miyamoto did a bang up job with Wii Music. Err...maybe this guy does not know what he is talking about anymore.

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#17 gammon56
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Miyamoto did a bang up job with Wii Music. Err...maybe this guy does not know what he is talking about anymore.

Videodogg
exactly isnt this the guy who said he could have made halo? that made me laugh so hard
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#18 zarshack
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I disagree, i just recently got Bayonetta and i had a ton of fun with it.

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#19 Espada12
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Miyamoto did a bang up job with Wii Music. Err...maybe this guy does not know what he is talking about anymore.

Videodogg

he is right though, with no big nintendo games to push the bar (sales) and a lack of big, quality releases last year (in mean in general cows) there has been a slump.

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#20 Willy105
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Whoops, sorry, nvm, he was talking about the industry as a whole. Nothing to see here, then.

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#21 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

This is what I've been saying, Nintendo has got to take care of the Wii audience.

alphamale1989

Thats why we have at least three AAA-calebre first party games scheduled to be released this year. Also a couple years ago Metriod 3, SMG and Brawl were all released within 12 months of eachother. Nintendo just hasn't been spacing thier games up enough :P

Yeah, but like you said, we had to go through a drought of "a couple of years" to get the love this year. I have all three of those games and more, but Nintendo's resources aren't aimed at the core like they are the masses. I get it, and I'm thankful for this year when it's over. However, I'm in March 2010, and 1st party wise, reality is what it is.:P

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[QUOTE="Videodogg"]

Miyamoto did a bang up job with Wii Music. Err...maybe this guy does not know what he is talking about anymore.

gammon56
exactly isnt this the guy who said he could have made halo? that made me laugh so hard

Of course he could of. Anyone could.
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I swear every time I read one of these articles from someone @ Nintendo it's like reading through your typical SW sheep arguments.

Correlating sales with fun, biased opinions about online gaming and their elevated and skewed view of uniqueness. It's like a copypasta.

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[QUOTE="Videodogg"]

Miyamoto did a bang up job with Wii Music. Err...maybe this guy does not know what he is talking about anymore.

gammon56
exactly isnt this the guy who said he could have made halo? that made me laugh so hard

He has made games far better than Halo. Never saw what was such a big deal with that statement, other than striking the nerves of the Halo worshippers.
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[QUOTE="Theguy56"][QUOTE="gammon56"][QUOTE="Videodogg"]

Miyamoto did a bang up job with Wii Music. Err...maybe this guy does not know what he is talking about anymore.

exactly isnt this the guy who said he could have made halo? that made me laugh so hard

Of course he could of. Anyone could.

But he didnt, did he? No one else did except Bungie, did they? Funny how that works.
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#26 Willy105
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I swear every time I read one of these articles from someone @ Nintendo it's like reading through your typical SW sheep arguments.

Correlating sales with fun, biased opinions about online gaming and their elevated and skewed view of uniqueness. It's like a copypasta.

Dystopian-X
It's the same thing with all PR (other than Miyamoto not really being PR). Sony still is the king in causing fights over words.
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#27 Willy105
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[QUOTE="Theguy56"][QUOTE="gammon56"] exactly isnt this the guy who said he could have made halo? that made me laugh so hard Marcus_Hale
Of course he could of. Anyone could.

But he didnt, did he? No one else did except Bungie, did they? Funny how that works.

Yeah, you just reiterated the point Miyamoto was giving when he said that quote. He said he could have done [a Halo-type game], but chose not to.
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#28 Dystopian-X
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It's the same thing with all PR (other than Miyamoto not really being PR). Sony still is the king in causing fights over words.Willy105
Yeah ofc, they got nothing on Sony's "rumble is last gen" and such :p

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#29 Marcus_Hale
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[QUOTE="Marcus_Hale"][QUOTE="Theguy56"] Of course he could of. Anyone could.Willy105
But he didnt, did he? No one else did except Bungie, did they? Funny how that works.

Yeah, you just reiterated the point Miyamoto was giving when he said that quote. He said he could have done [a Halo-type game], but chose not to.

But that's a statement anyone could make about anything. It's a cocky statement regardless. You can say it's truth, but he said it just to ruffle some feathers.
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"I think it is obvious that when everyone is connected online, there will be enormous opportunity for me to create something really unique," Miyamoto said. "But my job is to try to entertain as many people as possible, and I see all Wii owners as the audience. Of course, we have Mario Kart, which can be played online by multiple people. So we are gradually expanding the experiences using the Internet, but my own personal focus is to try to entertain people, even if they are not connected to the Internet. That is my first priority."

I wish every dev was like this... maybe we wouldn't have games with 4 hours campaigns and what not.

Espada12

There's always the option of not buying the trash with 4 hour campaigns.

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#31 Willy105
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[QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="Marcus_Hale"] But he didnt, did he? No one else did except Bungie, did they? Funny how that works. Marcus_Hale
Yeah, you just reiterated the point Miyamoto was giving when he said that quote. He said he could have done [a Halo-type game], but chose not to.

But that's a statement anyone could make about anything. It's a cocky statement regardless. You can say it's truth, but he said it just to ruffle some feathers.

Exactly. That was the point. That's the point of public interviews, especially when you are asked about competing developers that are doing the opposite of what you are doing.
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

"I think it is obvious that when everyone is connected online, there will be enormous opportunity for me to create something really unique," Miyamoto said. "But my job is to try to entertain as many people as possible, and I see all Wii owners as the audience. Of course, we have Mario Kart, which can be played online by multiple people. So we are gradually expanding the experiences using the Internet, but my own personal focus is to try to entertain people, even if they are not connected to the Internet. That is my first priority."

I wish every dev was like this... maybe we wouldn't have games with 4 hours campaigns and what not.

topgunmv

There's always the option of not buying the trash with 4 hour campaigns.

4 hour campaigns? What game has 4 hour campaigns? That's offensive.
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So he didn't find 2009 a very fun year, hate to break it to alot of you but he has a point. Alot of games got bumped to this year that were suppose to release last year., ALOT of games really.
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#34 Willy105
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So he didn't find 2009 a very fun year, hate to break it to alot of you but he has a point. Alot of games got bumped to this year that were suppose to release last year., ALOT of games really.VideoGameGuy
All because of MW2. Interestingly, the other big 2009 game that wasn't bumped out to avoid MW2 was New Super Mario Bros. Wii.
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[QUOTE="gammon56"][QUOTE="Videodogg"]

Miyamoto did a bang up job with Wii Music. Err...maybe this guy does not know what he is talking about anymore.

exactly isnt this the guy who said he could have made halo? that made me laugh so hard

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[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

"I think it is obvious that when everyone is connected online, there will be enormous opportunity for me to create something really unique," Miyamoto said. "But my job is to try to entertain as many people as possible, and I see all Wii owners as the audience. Of course, we have Mario Kart, which can be played online by multiple people. So we are gradually expanding the experiences using the Internet, but my own personal focus is to try to entertain people, even if they are not connected to the Internet. That is my first priority."

I wish every dev was like this... maybe we wouldn't have games with 4 hours campaigns and what not.

Willy105

There's always the option of not buying the trash with 4 hour campaigns.

4 hour campaigns? What game has 4 hour campaigns? That's offensive.

Modern warfare 2 and ODST! lawl

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"exactly isnt this the guy who said he could have made halo? that made me laugh so hard " Considering he has created far better games, and multiple games far better at that, what he said is true, he could have created halo, and it would have been better no doubt.
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I wish every single developer had this mentality. Unfortunatlely, Miyamoto's words isnt getting him a free pass from me.

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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

"I think it is obvious that when everyone is connected online, there will be enormous opportunity for me to create something really unique," Miyamoto said. "But my job is to try to entertain as many people as possible, and I see all Wii owners as the audience. Of course, we have Mario Kart, which can be played online by multiple people. So we are gradually expanding the experiences using the Internet, but my own personal focus is to try to entertain people, even if they are not connected to the Internet. That is my first priority."

I wish every dev was like this... maybe we wouldn't have games with 4 hours campaigns and what not.

t;p>topgunmv

There's always the option of not buying the trash with 4 hour campaigns.

I know but it's hard to tell the length of a game as most sources exaggerate it to either extreme.

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#40 gammon56
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"exactly isnt this the guy who said he could have made halo? that made me laugh so hard " Considering he has created far better games, and multiple games far better at that, what he said is true, he could have created halo, and it would have been better no doubt.IgorAntunov
He dosent do shooters he just came off as cockey to me and no he would not have made it better
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Being a huge Nintendo fan, I gotta disagree with Mr. Miyamoto. These games of this generation have been fantastic. Maybe he can come up a lot better games, but I think the games are fun enough nowadays.
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#42 awssk8er716
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2009 had some okay titles, but the only "Fun" one was Wii Sports Resort.

The first time I played sword play, I couldn't believe it. It is easily one of the most fun games I've ever played.

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#43 chikenfriedrice
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2009 had some okay titles, but the only "Fun" one was Wii Sports Resort.

The first time I played sword play, I couldn't believe it. It is easily one of the most fun games I've ever played.

awssk8er716

wow I just played it and sword play was boring as could be....different strokes

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At least they realize their games aren't fun.

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I just think this guy thinks hes better than everyone else at everything

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I just think this guy thinks hes better than everyone else at everything

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i never got that impression but if there was one person who could boast that it would be him.
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"exactly isnt this the guy who said he could have made halo? that made me laugh so hard " Considering he has created far better games, and multiple games far better at that, what he said is true, he could have created halo, and it would have been better no doubt.IgorAntunov
Miymato has no range. You saw what happen with Wii Music.
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[QUOTE="PSP107"]actually the posters at 1up are saying he was refering to the indusrty as a wholeMarcus_Hale
Then he obviously hasnt played MW2, Uncharted 2, and Left 4 Dead 2. Maybe they are too mature for him?

those games are overplayed, when i played goldeneye i was amazed but slowly into the gc gen shooters became reptitive, so no , , sir mw2 especally ,, thats a rushed project , seeing a cod every year is like madden ,, may i say more but i enjoyed my wii iwata so dont go there
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[QUOTE="IgorAntunov"]"exactly isnt this the guy who said he could have made halo? that made me laugh so hard " Considering he has created far better games, and multiple games far better at that, what he said is true, he could have created halo, and it would have been better no doubt.PSP107
Miymato has no range. You saw what happen with Wii Music.

if miyamoto has no range then you havent played n64, or snes, youll see hes done more then any 1 in this industry , hes the first to come up with 3d gaming -n64 -the first definition hes the first to come up with using sensing-wii 4 controller ports-64 analog-64 rumble-64 and 3d 2nd definition-on handhelds , 3ds -tentative name ,, as well as camera and touch screens for ds
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[QUOTE="IgorAntunov"]"exactly isnt this the guy who said he could have made halo? that made me laugh so hard " Considering he has created far better games, and multiple games far better at that, what he said is true, he could have created halo, and it would have been better no doubt.PSP107
Miymato has no range. You saw what happen with Wii Music.

From platformers to adventure to strategy games and he helped in Super Mario RPG also