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#201 Skittles_McGee
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...an obvious flop, yet cows trying to deny it, anyways keeps SW fun,

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Did you actually read any of the posts or just decide that it scored an 8, it must have been hyped higher, flop. Read the posts. Its not an "obvious" flop :| Yet lemmings are trying to deny it. Keeps SW fun.
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#202 Seabas989
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I'll admit I'm surprised as well. Solid score for those that like baseball games. But I think now we will see less MLB the Show exclusive or not exclusive topics hopefully.

I guess it's a flop.

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#203 GiveMeSomething
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[QUOTE="ethanradd"]

...an obvious flop, yet cows trying to deny it, anyways keeps SW fun,

Skittles_McGee

Did you actually read any of the posts or just decide that it scored an 8, it must have been hyped higher, flop. Read the posts. Its not an "obvious" flop :| Yet lemmings are trying to deny it. Keeps SW fun.

Dude, it's a flop, period. No excuses.

The thing is, no one cares about this game, not even ps3 owners LOL.

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#204 liberty71441
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="ethanradd"]

...an obvious flop, yet cows trying to deny it, anyways keeps SW fun,

GiveMeSomething

Did you actually read any of the posts or just decide that it scored an 8, it must have been hyped higher, flop. Read the posts. Its not an "obvious" flop :| Yet lemmings are trying to deny it. Keeps SW fun.

Dude, it's a flop, period. No excuses.

The thing is, no one cares about this game, not even ps3 owners LOL.

cows are in damage control.

another flop for the ps3

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#205 ethanradd
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[QUOTE="GiveMeSomething"]

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"] Did you actually read any of the posts or just decide that it scored an 8, it must have been hyped higher, flop. Read the posts. Its not an "obvious" flop :| Yet lemmings are trying to deny it. Keeps SW fun.liberty71441

Dude, it's a flop, period. No excuses.

The thing is, no one cares about this game, not even ps3 owners LOL.

cows are in damage control.

another flop for the ps3

..indeed,

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#206 Skittles_McGee
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cows are in damage control.

another flop for the ps3

liberty71441

I'm not even a cow and I can see this isn't damage control. There wasn't a flop. There is literally ZERO evidence that its a flop. The rules don't change when it suits you better. Its not a flop, stop YOUR damage control.

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#207 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]

Lets just outline this real quick. Tangible evidence of AA hype:

-Previously mentioned thread

-Poll

Tangible evidence of AAA hype:

-Some unseen posts

However, one could reasonably argue the thread for AA hype wasn't official. And it goes without saying that 'I saw some posts saying AAAE' means absolutely nothing as well. Which leaves us with utterly nothing. No hype. Without hype there cannot be a flop. So lets review. We can only have two scenarios here, due to evidence:

-AA Hype

-No Hype

Either scenario dictates the game isn't a flop. Pick whichever tickles your fancy but thats all we have to go on. So until there's some amazingly convincing evidence to the contrary can we call it a night and consider this....

...Not A Flop

SolidTy

This is correct. There is not much else to say.

Seriously guys. Read this. Everyone's just walking in here and calling "flop" and "damage control" and the reality is much different.
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#208 mistablair
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From the review it sounds like the reviewer should probably be playing on Rookie difficulty, or at least stop throwing predictable pitches. It's not really fair to punish a simulation game for not being arcade-y enough.
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#209 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Seriously guys. Read this. Everyone's just walking in here and calling "flop" and "damage control" and the reality is much different.Skittles_McGee
I think it's fairly obvious that the review did not meet anyone's expectations -- I don't recall anyone saying low AA for the hype. I can easily see what people mean when they say this game is a SW flop, since it obviously didn't meet expectations. This is just one of those odd situations where we didn't have a hype thread that has a solid foundation (and lasted a long while as well) -- and the hype thread that I did link only had a few posts within it.
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#210 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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I'll clear things up for you by letting you know I meant those games as AAA titles by the Industries definition not SWs.

W1NGMAN-

lulz. I'm sure you did. :P

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#211 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]Seriously guys. Read this. Everyone's just walking in here and calling "flop" and "damage control" and the reality is much different.Stevo_the_gamer
I think it's fairly obvious that the review did not meet anyone's expectations -- I don't recall anyone saying low AA for the hype. I can easily see what people mean when they say this game is a SW flop, since it obviously didn't meet expectations. This is just one of those odd situations where we didn't have a hype thread that has a solid foundation (and lasted a long while as well) -- and the hype thread that I did link only had a few posts within it.

But since when do we call flop on no foundation? That doesn't make any sense.
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#212 jeffmonster
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[QUOTE="DanteSuikoden"]

[QUOTE="GiveMeSomething"]

Very interesting flop. I never really liked the game nor the sport itself. I wouldn't even look at the boxart, I loathe baseball for some reason. May be it's because it's a half baked sport.

GiveMeSomething

how so?

If u compare it to soccer, tennis, or football; baseball is not really very demanding physically. The level required, the speed that u play at, is quite different from the sports I just mentioned. Even some professional baseball players have bellys, do u think that's very athletic? I don't think so.

They say hitting a baseball is the hardest thing to do in all of pro sports. But I guess you have a point, it's pretty much just hand eye coordination. I saw a picture of a shirtless Manny in si........not good

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#213 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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But since when do we call flop on no foundation? That doesn't make any sense.Skittles_McGee
That's why it's hard to completely put your finger on it. You can still throw mud at the wall, but this time it ain't sticking. I can understand why the mud is being thrown though -- expectations for MLB 10 were not low. At all. Anyone saying otherwise is fooling themselves!
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#214 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]But since when do we call flop on no foundation? That doesn't make any sense.Stevo_the_gamer
That's why it's hard to completely put your finger on it. You can still throw mud at the wall, but this time it ain't sticking. I can understand why the mud is being thrown though -- expectations for MLB 10 were not low. At all. Anyone saying otherwise is fooling themselves!

AA isn't "low". Point being though, we never allowed anything but tangible evidence of hype before. This should be no different, for any reason.
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#215 killerfist
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Meh, baseball.
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#216 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]AA isn't "low". Point being though, we never allowed anything but tangible evidence of hype before. This should be no different, for any reason.

No one was hyping this game low AA or was predicting an 8.0. In MLB the Show threads, you would find nothing but praise regarding this game. Someone could easily assume this game didn't meet expectations.
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#217 jeffmonster
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8.0 is too low - I like it better than 09 - for some reason I can see balls & strikes better - that alone makes it superior in my book. (using the wide batting view) The pitching meter blows though....that's gotta change. I just use classic and hope for the best.

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#218 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]AA isn't "low". Point being though, we never allowed anything but tangible evidence of hype before. This should be no different, for any reason.

No one was hyping this game low AA or was predicting an 8.0. In MLB the Show threads, you would find nothing but praise regarding this game. Someone could easily assume this game didn't meet expectations.

The only actual evidence we have says otherwise, does it not? If you're not going to count that though, then you count nothing. Either way this isn't a flop and we shouldn't be spinning the rules to make it one. Play fair, we've applied these rules to other games, it applies to this one too.
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#219 shinrabanshou
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]Seriously guys. Read this. Everyone's just walking in here and calling "flop" and "damage control" and the reality is much different.Stevo_the_gamer
I think it's fairly obvious that the review did not meet anyone's expectations -- I don't recall anyone saying low AA for the hype. I can easily see what people mean when they say this game is a SW flop, since it obviously didn't meet expectations. This is just one of those odd situations where we didn't have a hype thread that has a solid foundation (and lasted a long while as well) -- and the hype thread that I did link only had a few posts within it.

Like I said earlier. I both expected it to score well, but then thought it was equally likely to score lower than 2009, despite being a better game. Essentially this was a toss-up. Also there was essentially no hype for this, due to it being such a niche game.

-----

IMHO, this game has been underrated here.

I've only played 09, but I can't see how 10 has failed to live up to 09 or failed to improve on it enough to warrant such a disparity in score. Or that this game doesn't even match up to 08. It does a disservice to both the developer's efforts and as a consumer quality reference really.

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I'm wondering if anyone has played 08 and whether the improvements 09 offered are more than the improvements 10 offers on 09?

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#220 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"] The only actual evidence we have says otherwise, does it not? If you're not going to count that though, then you count nothing. Either way this isn't a flop and we shouldn't be spinning the rules to make it one. Play fair, we've applied these rules to other games, it applies to this one too.

That depends if you want to actually dig through the plethora of threads that had MLB 10 hype within it. The thread I linked had 13 replies to it -- every single one said AAA or "POSSIBLY" an 8.5; in many other threads you have nothing but constant praise of MLB 10 and how it's improved over MLB 09. Am I calling it a flop? I haven't ... yet, but I can easily see why other folks would call it such. It's really not that hard to see that MLB 10 didn't meet expectations; the surprise within this thread is evident enough for me.
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#221 todd2r
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i have it and if you like baseball, its great. the review score was quite surprising. its the lowest score given by a reviewer yet. i think IGN gave it like an 8.9 or a 9, im not sure but thats quite a difference. anyways, if youre a baseball fan, its great. but i will say its sad that everyone is arguing about a baseball game review. seriously. has system wars gotten that bad?!? everyone is arguing over MLB the Show?!?

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#222 Cherokee_Jack
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Guys, guys. It's not a flop. Cows weren't really hyping it, so no one really got owned.

It's just funny that they put so much effort into getting exclusivity for MLB 10, all the while assuming that it was AAA (though maybe not saying as much), and this is their reward.

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#223 killerfist
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Guys, guys. It's not a flop. Cows weren't really hyping it, so no one really got owned.Cherokee_Jack
This. There was far far less talk about MLB10 compared to the previous one..which was discussed to death.
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#224 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]Guys, guys. It's not a flop. Cows weren't really hyping it, so no one really got owned.killerfist
This. There was far far less talk about MLB10 compared to the previous one..which was discussed to death.

Though I think everyone knows that cows and most others expected AAA. They didn't talk about it enough to set up a real hype train, but the unspoken assumption was that it would repeat the success of the last game. In that sense there's some element of ownage here, but calling it a flop isn't fair.
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#225 W1NGMAN-
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[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]Guys, guys. It's not a flop. Cows weren't really hyping it, so no one really got owned.Cherokee_Jack
This. There was far far less talk about MLB10 compared to the previous one..which was discussed to death.

Though I think everyone knows that cows and most others expected AAA. They didn't talk about it enough to set up a real hype train, but the unspoken assumption was that it would repeat the success of the last game. In that sense there's some element of ownage here, but calling it a flop isn't fair.

Just got back from a fantastic workout:) ... anywho, there's quiet a difference between "expecting" and "hoping" ...

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#226 zarshack
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This doesnt make much sense.. isnt this meant to be better then the one from last year? (which got a 9.0)

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#227 killerfist
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[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]Guys, guys. It's not a flop. Cows weren't really hyping it, so no one really got owned.Cherokee_Jack
This. There was far far less talk about MLB10 compared to the previous one..which was discussed to death.

Though I think everyone knows that cows and most others expected AAA. They didn't talk about it enough to set up a real hype train, but the unspoken assumption was that it would repeat the success of the last game. In that sense there's some element of ownage here, but calling it a flop isn't fair.

That is probably true. This isn't one that should be in the books. Heck, usually I would have prepared something to mock the cows with this..but I simply don't care enough:P Besides, this should still be a great game for the people that like baseball..that, and it looks superb.
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#228 kozzy1234
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This doesnt make much sense.. isnt this meant to be better then the one from last year? (which got a 9.0)

zarshack

Its better then last years in nearly every way, this score makes me SMH to be honest.

Im loving the game and I hate baseball haha, go figure :P

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#229 shinrabanshou
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This doesnt make much sense.. isnt this meant to be better then the one from last year? (which got a 9.0)

zarshack

Which was better than the year before's rendition that got an 8.5.... :\

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#230 LOXO7
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Uh oh. Someone called it exclusive on the chart.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pc5oLqpenpT78W87pMfgvBA&gid=2

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#231 Phazevariance
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I suppose that's not bad, any lower and it'd be in the 7's which are boarderline crappy... Also, FLOP compared to the hype cows pushed it up to.

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#232 siddhu33
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Uh oh. Someone called it exclusive on the chart.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pc5oLqpenpT78W87pMfgvBA&gid=2

LOXO7

That's because Mr. Casey Wagner said so!! (in childish voice)

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#233 yokofox33
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Little surprising, but still a solid score. I'm gonna try to pick this title up when it hopefully drops in price by a bit. Can't really afford it right now both in the monetary and time sense.

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#234 W1NGMAN-
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Uh oh. Someone called it exclusive on the chart.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pc5oLqpenpT78W87pMfgvBA&gid=2

LOXO7

Once again TC gotta edit that title, it should show "AAE"

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#235 DanteSuikoden
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I play semi-professional tennis. thank you very much. I serve at 100 mph+

GiveMeSomething

Do the same with an instrument not as wide as a racket and hitting a ball that doesn't lose velocity from hitting the ground beforehand.

(Don't get me wrong, your feat is amazing nontheless:P)

Besides, like the other poster said, we are only talking about the skill you need to bat which in my experience is HELLA easier than pitching.

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#236 xhawk27
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Strike Three........You are Out!

FLOP!

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#237 Sollet
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lol flop, still the best baseball series around.
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#238 xhawk27
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lol flop, still the best baseball series around.Sollet

Yeah they are getting better than before. Even 2K sports is better this year.

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#239 NukePistols
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[QUOTE="Sollet"]lol flop, still the best baseball series around.xhawk27

Yeah they are getting better than before. Even 2K sports is better this year.

It's a 9.0 at metacritic.com.

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/mlb10theshow?q=mlb

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#240 Fizzman
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flppity flop. Baseball games blow though so I dont think anyone cares.

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#241 Doolz2024
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MLB 10: The Flop :P

Seriously though, great score. Hopefully they can get a patch released soon to fix all or most of the problems!

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#242 karsa-orlong
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wow gs seems to be on the lower end of scores this year. was pretty sure it wouldnt be AAAE but a 8 is surprising considering its actually better than last years game. and a .5 diff from 2k10 when metas diff is 1.5 difference is pretty big. calling a 7-7.5 for yakuza 3.

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#243 BigBoss154
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For a sports game, that's actually pretty good.

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#244 SaltyMeatballs
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Good score, but definitely a flop. So much about whether it was exclusive or not, and it didn't even score AAA.
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#245 nethernova
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Dude, it's a flop, period. No excuses.

The thing is, no one cares about this game, not even ps3 owners LOL.

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How can it be a flop when no one cares about it? Do you even know what flop means? A flop occurs when a game doesn't match the hype. No one cares = no hype = no flop. It's not that hard to understand. You're contradicting yourself. Anyway, I'd rather play Mario Super Sluggers.
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#246 Ratchet_Fan8
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i wanted to post that MLB10 would be straight AAE yesterday,but i thought that people would scream "Old" so yeah.....Fop
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#247 Fios4Gaming
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Its a great game but I agree with the score. They didnt expand too much on a great AAA game last year. I think they could of done more, id give the game 8.5, but understand 8.0 AAE nonetheless.
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#248 akira2465
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I'll admit that I thought it was going to be AAA but I didn't vote in polls or hype the game. I have played the game and it seems more refined then last years game. It's not harder than last year's game. I haven't tried online yet , I spend most of my time on Road to the show so far.

I don't see the negatives the reviewer saw and how it justifies a score lower than last years game. He said it's more of the same, but they have adding more training games for Road to the Show, ability to call a game from the catcher position which is better than just catching pop ups/throwing out runners in last year's game, better presentation etc.

Some of the negatives are , they recycled some of the commentary from last year's game and also some of the animations from last year's game.

I'll take the ownage though, hopefully next year's game bring's the series back to where it deserves to be, AAA

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#249 Revolution316
Member since 2009 • 2877 Posts

[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

8.5 was my prediction but I sure as heck didn't expect an 8.0

Stevo_the_gamer

Series?

In this thread... you said...

I'm in AAA heaven this month, seriously!

  • MLB 10 The Show
  • BC2
  • GoW3

Best month of the year so far :shock:

W1NGMAN-

lol ouch

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#250 carlisledavid79
Member since 2006 • 10522 Posts
Flop or not (it really isnt) thats another exclusive on the spreadheet and the 3rd AAE this year already on the PS3. That puts it at 34 A+ exclusives so far this year.