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#401 88mphSlayer
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i thought it was gonna be AAAE :(

i figured maybe a 9.0

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#402 hkmp5a2
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[QUOTE="hkmp5a2"]

I'll say it again. the mod who allowed the game to be exclusive said himself the polls are pretty much Bull..the system was so over abused.

Threads created every day by a cow, lemming, or what ever boasting about said game being AAA > a poll being put together. The game has ben boasted since MLB 9 came out that this would be another AAA.

Chutebox

I know they're bull, but your deciding a game's hype solely on what only fanboys say and completely disregarding everyone else.

That's no way to determine a game's hype.

It sure is a way. That's what happens in SW. As soon as the game became an Exclusive it was in the hands of the cows, the cows took it to far. I'm sorry, but it's the truth.

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#403 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="hkmp5a2"]

I'll say it again. the mod who allowed the game to be exclusive said himself the polls are pretty much Bull..the system was so over abused.

Threads created every day by a cow, lemming, or what ever boasting about said game being AAA > a poll being put together. The game has ben boasted since MLB 9 came out that this would be another AAA.

hkmp5a2

I know they're bull, but your deciding a game's hype solely on what only fanboys say and completely disregarding everyone else.

That's no way to determine a game's hype.

It sure is a way. That's what happens in SW. As soon as the game became an Exclusive it was in the hands of the cows, the cows took it to far. I'm sorry, but it's the truth.

Lol, no truth. Sure some cows hyped it AAA, but cows aren't SW. Sorry to burst your bubble. Off to school! :(

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#404 hkmp5a2
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[QUOTE="hkmp5a2"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

I know they're bull, but your deciding a game's hype solely on what only fanboys say and completely disregarding everyone else.

That's no way to determine a game's hype.

Chutebox

It sure is a way. That's what happens in SW. As soon as the game became an Exclusive it was in the hands of the cows, the cows took it to far. I'm sorry, but it's the truth.

Lol, no truth. Sure some cows hyped it AAA, but cows aren't SW. Sorry to burst your bubble. Off to school! :(

What is your definition of SW then. Mine was was System Wars is about who has the best system and games.. Not lets all sit together and talk about said game while enjoying some tea. I keep saying it, "cows" had the ball in their court and ran with it, they dropped the ball. This is the first time I'm ever hearing this about the entire "SW" has to determine what a games hype is when it's the fanboys job to do so. A multiplat game is different though since it falls out of the spirit of SW.
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#405 Anjunaddict
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:lol: After all the AAA hype, and the whining and crying to get it to count exclusive, and it turns out AA. If cows had of known this would be AA, no way would they have cried so much to get it to count as an exclusive lol.
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#406 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Jeez, we're still arguing this? I thought my post last night would clear it up a bit. Guess not :?

Skittles_McGee
And I'll reiterate, it's fairly easy to see why some will consider this a flop. It's obvious it didn't meet expectations.
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#407 SpideR_CentS
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yeah 8.0 - 8.5 seems about right. I played a full 162 game season last year (plus more) and its too much of the same. If it didn't have all the bugs, if they fixed loading in RTTS mode and they added a bunch of new commintary I would have said 9.0-9.5.

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#408 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]

Jeez, we're still arguing this? I thought my post last night would clear it up a bit. Guess not :?

Stevo_the_gamer

And I'll reiterate, it's fairly easy to see why some will consider this a flop. It's obvious it didn't meet expectations.

and I'll reiterate, people will consider and argue in SW for almost any game as a flop, especially those games that score less than AAA.

Doesn't mean they are right either.

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#409 carlisledavid79
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Points to Yakuaz 3 review thread. Thats another AAE right there, so thats four for the year already. :p
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#410 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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and I'll reiterate, people will consider and argue in SW for almost any game as a flop, especially those games that score less than AAA.

Doesn't mean they are right either.

SolidTy

Sure, only for this game they have a considerable basis to declare such. I'd be shocked if someone said they predicted the game would get an 8.0; only a mere .5 above MLB 2k10.

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#411 Aboogie5
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gamespot is getting really funny now.. the computer is too good? or is it just ur not good at playing the game.

They say problems with pitching mechanics, i played 3 games with my friend, what problems? The only thing that i see mlb series having problems with is online.

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#412 shinrabanshou
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]

Jeez, we're still arguing this? I thought my post last night would clear it up a bit. Guess not :?

Stevo_the_gamer

And I'll reiterate, it's fairly easy to see why some will consider this a flop. It's obvious it didn't meet expectations.

Then why was everyone so happy to consider Heavy Rain a flop based on a poll? Rather than the bulk of expectations posted, which I recall being more along the lines of a cautious AA, since it was a new IP with a unique gameplay style that may not lend itself to everyone's favor.

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#413 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]

Jeez, we're still arguing this? I thought my post last night would clear it up a bit. Guess not :?

shinrabanshou

And I'll reiterate, it's fairly easy to see why some will consider this a flop. It's obvious it didn't meet expectations.

Then why was everyone so happy to consider Heavy Rain a flop based on a poll? Rather than the bulk of expectations posted, which I recall being more along the lines of a cautious AA, since it was a new IP with a unique gameplay style that may not lend itself to everyone's favor.

Because the hype was overwhelmingly AAA, but from what I saw, that was in due part because cows and other folks changed their hype once reviews flooded in that showcased AAA was the clear score being shown.
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#414 shinrabanshou
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[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]And I'll reiterate, it's fairly easy to see why some will consider this a flop. It's obvious it didn't meet expectations.Stevo_the_gamer

Then why was everyone so happy to consider Heavy Rain a flop based on a poll? Rather than the bulk of expectations posted, which I recall being more along the lines of a cautious AA, since it was a new IP with a unique gameplay style that may not lend itself to everyone's favor.

Because the hype was overwhelmingly AAA, but from what I saw, that was in due part because cows and other folks changed their hype once reviews flooded in that showcased AAA was the clear score being shown.

It's been a while since that thread but I recall most of the people who actually posted their expectations, since that seems to be the standard by which MLB10 is to be judged instead of the only poll that was conducted, were expecting a score around 8.5.

Also when does hype become official in this metagame, doesn't it need to be locked in before reviews start coming in to influence it? It seems kind of pointless if something is hyped AAA for months and then after some negative reviews come in before Gamespot's it falls to AA, or vice versa as seems to be the case for Heavy Rain.

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#415 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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It's been a while since that thread but I recall most of the people who actually posted their expectations, since that seems to be the standard by which MLB10 is to be judged instead of the only poll that was conducted, were expecting a score around 8.5.

Also when does hype become official in this metagame, doesn't it need to be locked in before reviews start coming in to influence it? It seems kind of pointless if something is hyped AAA for months and then after some negative reviews come in before Gamespot's it falls to AA, or vice versa as seems to be the case for Heavy Rain.

shinrabanshou

There is no "official" way of doing it. The only official way we did have was banned (not sure when exactly it was banned though). The problem rests with multiple and multiple threads popping up regarding hype even very late in the window -- where as a hype thread could pop up before, as in a day or whatever, before it's even reviewed. I sort of wish we'd go back to having just one "official" thread and go off that but hey, that in of itself was an issue as well back in the day which lead to its banning.

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#416 powerman91
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Ok Im sure someone already pointed this out but did I actually read in the review that its too much like its predecessor? Its baseball! How do you change the gameplay of baseball?

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#417 DeadMagazines
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Ok Im sure someone already pointed this out but did I actually read in the review that its too much like its predecessor? Its baseball! How do you change the gameplay of baseball?

powerman91
If Madden and NHL games can make improvements why can't a MLB game?
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#418 MizFitAwesome
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Ok Im sure someone already pointed this out but did I actually read in the review that its too much like its predecessor? Its baseball! How do you change the gameplay of baseball?

powerman91

Make it interesting to watch. Nevermind, that's impossible...

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#419 powerman91
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[QUOTE="powerman91"]

Ok Im sure someone already pointed this out but did I actually read in the review that its too much like its predecessor? Its baseball! How do you change the gameplay of baseball?

DeadMagazines
If Madden and NHL games can make improvements why can't a MLB game?

I didnt say it couldnt make improvements, just that in the review they said the gameplay was the same. As far as I know theres only one way to play baseball so i dont know what they mean.
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#420 GrandJury
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Tempted to play this even though I don't even like baseball.
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#421 W1NGMAN-
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Finally got my hands on MLB 10 The Show, and even though it's not a huge leap like 08 was to 07 ... there's still a good amount of changes to the animation work and presentation that make it worth a purchase if you're a baseball fan.

I've only played two games so far, and of course I think it's AAA all the way BUT if I reviewed it the way GS does I would go with an 8.5 just because it didn't make enough significant changes from 09 AND the online still seems to be an issue.

Best baseball game ever made? If were talking about replicating the game as close as possible, nothing comes close to MLB 10 The Show.

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#422 W1NGMAN-
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Tempted to play this even though I don't even like baseball.GrandJury

The demo is available but it's a big one, almost 3gigs.

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#423 kozzy1234
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Tempted to play this even though I don't even like baseball.GrandJury

Im the same way bud, I dont like baseball much at all, but this game is just fantastic.

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#424 oo10fold888oo
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in my opinion, i thought 09 should have scored a 8-8.5 because as solid as a game it is, no baseball game should be released without the home run derby mode in it. its like sunny without frank. still great, but smthn was missing... 10 should have gotten the 9

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#425 santoron
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[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

I'm both surprised and not surprised.

I could see this happening, but I don't see why it happened since by most other accounts so far this year's game is an improvement on last year's. It's not really logical.

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Also their was no official hype.

ActicEdge

Improving on an old formula doesn't necessarily mean you should score the same. The standards raise with yearly installment games to keep delivering unexpected and excellent features. Being a better game doesn't alway mean deserving a better score.

Except with baseball games, the Show IS the standard, and the reviewer states as much to lead off his review. I'd see your point if 2k came out and blew away the competition with new features... but it's the same old broken MLB2K. When you do everything as well or better than you've ever done them before, it's hard to justify the incongruent reviews, and judging by the scores from other sites, I'd say this review is solidly in the minority.

But whatever. As a baseball fan I'll say that The Show 10 met all my expectations and exceeded a few. And after how great 09 was, it's saying something when you can still impress. The new drills for RTTS are great, the Catcher mode and HR derby are welcome new additions, and the game looks beautiful.

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#426 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

I'm both surprised and not surprised.

I could see this happening, but I don't see why it happened since by most other accounts so far this year's game is an improvement on last year's. It's not really logical.

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Also their was no official hype.

santoron

Improving on an old formula doesn't necessarily mean you should score the same. The standards raise with yearly installment games to keep delivering unexpected and excellent features. Being a better game doesn't alway mean deserving a better score.

Except with baseball games, the Show IS the standard, and the reviewer states as much to lead off his review. I'd see your point if 2k came out and blew away the competition with new features... but it's the same old broken MLB2K. When you do everything as well or better than you've ever done them before, it's hard to justify the incongruent reviews, and judging by the scores from other sites, I'd say this review is solidly in the minority.

But whatever. As a baseball fan I'll say that The Show 10 met all my expectations and exceeded a few. And after how great 09 was, it's saying something when you can still impress. The new drills for RTTS are great, the Catcher mode and HR derby are welcome new additions, and the game looks beautiful.

I don't see a problem. Leading the pack still doesn't mean your exempt from the standards you impose on yourself by being leader. The best FPS could be miles ahead of everything else and still be an 8. The point of the review isn't to give you a better score for beingbetter game, its entirely about how well you maintain the experience each year. There is nothing logically wrong with this score. I'm not going to play it though because I don't like baseball so that's about where my comments on the score end.

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#427 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

It's been a while since that thread but I recall most of the people who actually posted their expectations, since that seems to be the standard by which MLB10 is to be judged instead of the only poll that was conducted, were expecting a score around 8.5.

Also when does hype become official in this metagame, doesn't it need to be locked in before reviews start coming in to influence it? It seems kind of pointless if something is hyped AAA for months and then after some negative reviews come in before Gamespot's it falls to AA, or vice versa as seems to be the case for Heavy Rain.

Stevo_the_gamer

There is no "official" way of doing it. The only official way we did have was banned (not sure when exactly it was banned though). The problem rests with multiple and multiple threads popping up regarding hype even very late in the window -- where as a hype thread could pop up before, as in a day or whatever, before it's even reviewed. I sort of wish we'd go back to having just one "official" thread and go off that but hey, that in of itself was an issue as well back in the day which lead to its banning.

discontinued would be a better word than banned.

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#428 cainetao11
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how could the hype for this not be AAA? after all the crying about it should count on spreadsheets last year, this is major floppage! however I will be buying it because I love baseballl, and 8 = great, not solid. wow we are fickle, aren't we?