It is a game available on more than one platform; by definition it is multi-platform. No matter what one, or multiple people claim it to be. foxhound_foxlike GRAW?
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]They are, but it's all we got to determine hype of games. Unless someone wants to go through every hype thread and physically count posts.why are you even discussing the hype levels from a poll thread? those things are utterly useless. :|
Chutebox
we used to do that but people were dishonest even then.
They are, but it's all we got to determine hype of games. Unless someone wants to go through every hype thread and physically count posts.[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]
why are you even discussing the hype levels from a poll thread? those things are utterly useless. :|
CaseyWegner
we used to do that but people were dishonest even then.
You mean with counting posts?[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] They are, but it's all we got to determine hype of games. Unless someone wants to go through every hype thread and physically count posts.Chutebox
we used to do that but people were dishonest even then.
You mean with counting posts? underhyping gameslike GRAW?Giancar
so what did ODST do that made everything so original from other halo games?
it had the same old engine, mp, etc.
and it gets AAA, a $60 dollar expansion packwith 4 hours SP and yet GOW3 gets slammed for being too short(10hourSP) and being different than other GOW games on ps2.
maybe Santa Monica should of just ported the ps2 engine like what ms is doing with halo games and maybe it would of gotten a better score.
Okay cows, you can stop pretending you like baseball now. :lol:
I'm still buying it though, flop or not, I don't really care. This is still the best baseball game available. I don't know why everyone was hyping this so much anyway. You'd think this game was the final nail in Xbox 360's coffin from the way cows were talking.
[QUOTE="Giancar"] like GRAW?foxhound_fox
so what did ODST do that made everything so original from other halo games?
it had the same old engine, mp, etc.
and it gets AAA, a $60 dollar expansion packwith 4 hours SP and yet GOW3 gets slammed for being too short(10hourSP) and being different than other GOW games on ps2.
maybe Santa Monica should of just ported the ps2 engine like what ms is doing with halo games and maybe it would of gotten a better score.
ZoomZoom2490
Are you still hurt over the ODST review?? Seriously?? Dude! that was nearly half a year ago! move on!
Okay cows, you can stop pretending you like baseball now. :lol:
I'm still buying it though, flop or not, I don't really care. This is still the best baseball game available. I don't know why everyone was hyping this so much anyway. You'd think this game was the final nail in Xbox 360's coffin from the way cows were talking.
RawDeal_basic
PS3 has an AAA overrated game tooso what did ODST do that made everything so original from other halo games?
it had the same old engine, mp, etc.
and it gets AAA, a $60 dollar expansion packwith 4 hours SP and yet GOW3 gets slammed for being too short(10hourSP) and being different than other GOW games on ps2.
maybe Santa Monica should of just ported the ps2 engine like what ms is doing with halo games and maybe it would of gotten a better score.
ZoomZoom2490
so what did ODST do that made everything so original from other halo games?
it had the same old engine, mp, etc.
and it gets AAA, a $60 dollar expansion packwith 4 hours SP and yet GOW3 gets slammed for being too short(10hourSP) and being different than other GOW games on ps2.
maybe Santa Monica should of just ported the ps2 engine like what ms is doing with halo games and maybe it would of gotten a better score.
ZoomZoom2490
have you played the game you're questioning?
I agree on that, and that's my point. just the fact that a game shares the same name for different platforms doesn't make it multi by default. You have to look the concept and differences of those and compare each other to know if those are big enough to call it an exclusive or not. Some guy did it, and from what I read the differences were big enough to call it an exclusive (for a baseball game of course).Giancar
i am honestly getting tired of halo games getting high scores.
i feel that this game fell apart after Halo2 ,and i will admit, i still didnt get over ODST getting AAA here.
it just didnt deserve AAA for being a $60 dollar expansion pack with so little that it had to offer.
[QUOTE="Giancar"] I agree on that, and that's my point. just the fact that a game shares the same name for different platforms doesn't make it multi by default. You have to look the concept and differences of those and compare each other to know if those are big enough to call it an exclusive or not. Some guy did it, and from what I read the differences were big enough to call it an exclusive (for a baseball game of course).
foxhound_fox
Truth comes with this post. I don't go by polls since every fanboy derails the polls, but going from reading threads I can say allot of cows were hyping the game to be AAA since it was fought for to be an exclusive so heavily for the past games and with this one you even gave the "OK" A group of fanboys don't go around flailing their arms for exclusive unless they believe it's going to be another AAAwhy are you even discussing the hype levels from a poll thread? those things are utterly useless. :|
CaseyWegner
[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]
so what did ODST do that made everything so original from other halo games?
it had the same old engine, mp, etc.
and it gets AAA, a $60 dollar expansion packwith 4 hours SP and yet GOW3 gets slammed for being too short(10hourSP) and being different than other GOW games on ps2.
maybe Santa Monica should of just ported the ps2 engine like what ms is doing with halo games and maybe it would of gotten a better score.
have you played the game you're questioning?
have you played it the way i did? what i mean is forgetting the name Halo on the game cover. i think once you take that name and put it behind you it is then when you find out that the game doesnt even come close being AAA.[QUOTE="Giancar"] like GRAW?foxhound_fox
But it tells me GRAW is also available on PC,PS2 and Xbox ? Just because show10 is a sports game, doesnt mean it cant be counted exclusive if enough differences are shown than other platforms. You can do things in the PS3 version of show10 then in the psp and ps2 games of the same name. Its not fair to discount one genre, as at the end of the day its still a video game.
maybe the fact that it improved alot of things? i think "The Show 2010" devs should of kept everything the same like what ms doing with Halo games. Maybe then it would of received a higher score. i think these days you cant improve games or that becomes a negative.Why does Gamespot do this? I dont understand....FIFA 10 made the same sort of improvements and got a 9
Zaibach
[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]
so what did ODST do that made everything so original from other halo games?
it had the same old engine, mp, etc.
and it gets AAA, a $60 dollar expansion packwith 4 hours SP and yet GOW3 gets slammed for being too short(10hourSP) and being different than other GOW games on ps2.
maybe Santa Monica should of just ported the ps2 engine like what ms is doing with halo games and maybe it would of gotten a better score.
ZoomZoom2490
have you played the game you're questioning?
have you played it the way i did? what i mean is forgetting the name Halo on the game cover. i think once you take that name and put it behind you it is then when you find out that the game doesnt even come close being AAA.there's more than the main campaign.
[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]Truth comes with this post. I don't go by polls since every fanboy derails the polls, but going from reading threads I can say allot of cows were hyping the game to be AAA since it was fought for to be an exclusive so heavily for the past games and with this one you even gave the "OK" A group of fanboys don't go around flailing their arms for exclusive unless they believe it's going to be another AAAI disagree.why are you even discussing the hype levels from a poll thread? those things are utterly useless. :|
hkmp5a2
Dida lot of cowsthink it had a chance at a AAA score ? Sure. Did most ps3 owners and non-owners it had a great shot at AA at least? The obvious answer is yes.Cows fought heavily because they felt they had a AAe in the bag , possibly a AAAe. All ps3 exclusives aren't MGS4 , Uncharted 2 , of God of War III level of wow. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be excited about games like Heavy Rain , MLB The Show , Resistance 2 that may have a good chance at a AAA score ...... or even games on a smaller hype scale that have a chance at AA(MAG , ModNation , WKC)
The fact is , MLB is another AAe for the ps3 .... there's no way to downplay that eventhough people seem tobe trying. I'm not sure why people are so amused that it ONLY got AA like now we shouldn't want it as an ps3 excluisve or should have hyped it as one.That is absurd.
[QUOTE="Giancar"] like GRAW?foxhound_fox
Truth comes with this post. I don't go by polls since every fanboy derails the polls, but going from reading threads I can say allot of cows were hyping the game to be AAA since it was fought for to be an exclusive so heavily for the past games and with this one you even gave the "OK" A group of fanboys don't go around flailing their arms for exclusive unless they believe it's going to be another AAAI disagree.[QUOTE="hkmp5a2"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]
why are you even discussing the hype levels from a poll thread? those things are utterly useless. :|
Nike_Air
Dida lot of cowsthink it had a chance at a AAA score ? Sure. Did most ps3 owners and non-owners it had a great shot at AA at least? The obvious answer is yes.Cows fought heavily because they felt they had a AAe in the bag, possibly a AAAe. All ps3 exclusives aren't MGS4 , Uncharted 2 , of God of War III level of wow. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be excited about games like Heavy Rain , MLB The Show , Resistance 2 that may have a good chance at a AAA score ...... or even games on a smaller hype scale that have a chance at AA(MAG , ModNation , WKC)
The fact is , MLB is another AAe for the ps3 .... there's no way to downplay that eventhough people seem tobe trying. I'm not sure why people are so amused that it ONLY got AA like now we shouldn't want it as an ps3 excluisve or should have hyped it as one.That is absurd.
I disagree
This is the reason
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/sports/mlb09theshow/index.html
To downplay that and what happened when cows were going crazy when they were told that was not an exclusive. Cows thought this was going to be another AAA game so they pretty much gave a great presentation as to why it should be exclusive and they got it. It's just not what they wanted at the end though..I'm not calling it a bad game, it's still an AAE, but it's still a flop.
I disagree.[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]
[QUOTE="hkmp5a2"] Truth comes with this post. I don't go by polls since every fanboy derails the polls, but going from reading threads I can say allot of cows were hyping the game to be AAA since it was fought for to be an exclusive so heavily for the past games and with this one you even gave the "OK" A group of fanboys don't go around flailing their arms for exclusive unless they believe it's going to be another AAAhkmp5a2
Dida lot of cowsthink it had a chance at a AAA score ? Sure. Did most ps3 owners and non-owners it had a great shot at AA at least? The obvious answer is yes.Cows fought heavily because they felt they had a AAe in the bag, possibly a AAAe. All ps3 exclusives aren't MGS4 , Uncharted 2 , of God of War III level of wow. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be excited about games like Heavy Rain , MLB The Show , Resistance 2 that may have a good chance at a AAA score ...... or even games on a smaller hype scale that have a chance at AA(MAG , ModNation , WKC)
The fact is , MLB is another AAe for the ps3 .... there's no way to downplay that eventhough people seem tobe trying. I'm not sure why people are so amused that it ONLY got AA like now we shouldn't want it as an ps3 excluisve or should have hyped it as one.That is absurd.
I disagree
This is the reason
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/sports/mlb09theshow/index.html
To downplay that and what happened when cows were going crazy when they were told that was not an exclusive. Cows thought this was going to be another AAA game so they pretty much gave a great presentation as to why it should be exclusive and they got it. It's just not what they wanted at the end though..I'm not calling it a bad game, it's still an AAE, but it's still a flop.
Cow thought it was a "potential" AAAE title ... but like I have said, many new it would be a for sure AAe. Didn't think it score anything lower than 8.5 however.Where's the official hype thread so I can check if it's really a flop?
789shadow
Check the beginning of the thread, it was AA. Then Stevo posted the link to the thread, and fanboys tinkered with it to make it look AAA or to even tie the score of AAA to AA, since then that poll has been messed with, but originally, it was AA hype.
LINK. (It's still AA Hype, but I expect me posting it for you will now create the fanboy problem. I also know the tally, so I'm looking forward to your vote in that MLB10:The Show thread.)
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Skittles_McGee :
Let us just outline this real quick. Tangible evidence of AA hype:
-Previously mentioned thread
-Poll
Tangible evidence of AAA hype:
-Some unseen posts
However, one could reasonably argue the thread for AA hype wasn't official. And it goes without saying that 'I saw some posts saying AAAE' means absolutely nothing as well. Which leaves us with utterly nothing. No hype. Without hype there cannot be a flop. So lets review. We can only have two scenarios here, due to evidence:
-AA Hype
-No Hype
Either scenario dictates the game isn't a flop. Pick whichever tickles your fancy but thats all we have to go on. So until there's some amazingly convincing evidence to the contrary can we call it a night and consider this....
...Not A Flop
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Also, I provided that link and proof for tampering and deleted posts at SWM, you never got back to me. At least you know I was right. ;)
I hope you enjoy that I posted a link, and a quote for just for you, despite your harsh treatment of me in your PMs. See, I'm a nice guy.:)
EDIT : :shock: I just checked, now the "AAA" vote went up by one! :o I guess posting that link might have been a mistake! :P
Can we stop playing this "hype" game many of you seem to be caught up in and start discussing what was up with that review. I didn't realize how much worse MLB 10 was to 09. Does the author recommend people buy that version instead?mistablairThat's not how reviews work. Better sequels a lot of the time score less.
[QUOTE="mistablair"]Can we stop playing this "hype" game many of you seem to be caught up in and start discussing what was up with that review. I didn't realize how much worse MLB 10 was to 09. Does the author recommend people buy that version instead?SaltyMeatballsThat's not how reviews work. Better sequels a lot of the time score less. I can understand the passing of time, but over one year the reviewer appears to have a big change of heart. So, Sony's MLB10 is .5 better than the MLB 2K10 360 game, which is .5 better than the PS3 2k10 version. It just doesn't seem right that minor changes equal a .5 difference and The Show is only a little better 2K. Is 2K10 as good as the Show 09?
I disagree.[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]
[QUOTE="hkmp5a2"] Truth comes with this post. I don't go by polls since every fanboy derails the polls, but going from reading threads I can say allot of cows were hyping the game to be AAA since it was fought for to be an exclusive so heavily for the past games and with this one you even gave the "OK" A group of fanboys don't go around flailing their arms for exclusive unless they believe it's going to be another AAAhkmp5a2
Dida lot of cowsthink it had a chance at a AAA score ? Sure. Did most ps3 owners and non-owners it had a great shot at AA at least? The obvious answer is yes.Cows fought heavily because they felt they had a AAe in the bag, possibly a AAAe. All ps3 exclusives aren't MGS4 , Uncharted 2 , of God of War III level of wow. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be excited about games like Heavy Rain , MLB The Show , Resistance 2 that may have a good chance at a AAA score ...... or even games on a smaller hype scale that have a chance at AA(MAG , ModNation , WKC)
The fact is , MLB is another AAe for the ps3 .... there's no way to downplay that eventhough people seem tobe trying. I'm not sure why people are so amused that it ONLY got AA like now we shouldn't want it as an ps3 excluisve or should have hyped it as one.That is absurd.
I disagree
This is the reason
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/sports/mlb09theshow/index.html
To downplay that and what happened when cows were going crazy when they were told that was not an exclusive. Cows thought this was going to be another AAA game so they pretty much gave a great presentation as to why it should be exclusive and they got it. It's just not what they wanted at the end though..I'm not calling it a bad game, it's still an AAE, but it's still a flop.
No it's not, cows aren't the only ones that were hyping the game.[QUOTE="hkmp5a2"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]I disagree.
Dida lot of cowsthink it had a chance at a AAA score ? Sure. Did most ps3 owners and non-owners it had a great shot at AA at least? The obvious answer is yes.Cows fought heavily because they felt they had a AAe in the bag, possibly a AAAe. All ps3 exclusives aren't MGS4 , Uncharted 2 , of God of War III level of wow. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be excited about games like Heavy Rain , MLB The Show , Resistance 2 that may have a good chance at a AAA score ...... or even games on a smaller hype scale that have a chance at AA(MAG , ModNation , WKC)
The fact is , MLB is another AAe for the ps3 .... there's no way to downplay that eventhough people seem tobe trying. I'm not sure why people are so amused that it ONLY got AA like now we shouldn't want it as an ps3 excluisve or should have hyped it as one.That is absurd.
Chutebox
I disagree
This is the reason
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/sports/mlb09theshow/index.html
To downplay that and what happened when cows were going crazy when they were told that was not an exclusive. Cows thought this was going to be another AAA game so they pretty much gave a great presentation as to why it should be exclusive and they got it. It's just not what they wanted at the end though..I'm not calling it a bad game, it's still an AAE, but it's still a flop.
No it's not, cows aren't the only ones that were hyping the game. I believe it is. Like casey has said before about why do we even go by polls for hype. It's always been abused both ways, under rated then over rated. I, and many other users tend to go by threads, When you see threads saying how the ps3 will get the first AAAEof the year because of GOD3 or MLB 10 and like I said before with last years game scoring 9.0 with cows going nuts because it didn't count as being exclusive, cows..or just hard core fanboys need to man up and accept they fought pretty hard for an exclusive to be made out of this game for it to flop....they can't now back down and try to play it off claiming the hype was really only AA.[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="hkmp5a2"]No it's not, cows aren't the only ones that were hyping the game. I believe it is. Like casey has said before about why do we even go by polls for hype. It's always been abused both ways, under rated then over rated. I, and many other users tend to go by threads, When you see threads saying how the ps3 will get the first AAAEof the year because of GOD3 or MLB 10 and like I said before with last years game scoring 9.0 with cows going nuts because it didn't count as being exclusive, cows..or just hard core fanboys need to man up and accept they fought pretty hard for an exclusive to be made out of this game for it to flop....they can't now back down and try to play it off claiming the hype was really only AA. Maybe those cows were hyping it AAA, but that doesn't mean all of SW were. Some cows don't completely dictate what a game's hype is. Like the poll show before the review was released, hype was still at AA.I disagree
This is the reason
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/sports/mlb09theshow/index.html
To downplay that and what happened when cows were going crazy when they were told that was not an exclusive. Cows thought this was going to be another AAA game so they pretty much gave a great presentation as to why it should be exclusive and they got it. It's just not what they wanted at the end though..I'm not calling it a bad game, it's still an AAE, but it's still a flop.
hkmp5a2
And just because a poster intellignetly proved that a game should be exclusive doesn't mean he did it for the AAA. AA is an awesome score too.
Now if it got a A, then people could say it flopped. But as it stands, nah.
I'll say it again. the mod who allowed the game to be exclusive said himself the polls are pretty much Bull..the system was so over abused.
Threads created every day by a cow, lemming, or what ever boasting about said game being AAA > a poll being put together. The game has ben boasted since MLB 9 came out that this would be another AAA.
also SW has nothing to do with the hype of the game since it's an entire group..it's the fanboys cows, lems, hermits, sheeps that make thier games on thier systems reach a certain hype.. And I would say it was clear from the cows this would be an AAAE
I'll say it again. the mod who allowed the game to be exclusive said himself the polls are pretty much Bull..the system was so over abused.
Threads created every day by a cow, lemming, or what ever boasting about said game being AAA > a poll being put together. The game has ben boasted since MLB 9 came out that this would be another AAA.
hkmp5a2
I know they're bull, but your deciding a game's hype solely on what only fanboys say and completely disregarding everyone else.
That's no way to determine a game's hype.
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