Morgan Webb slams Zelda: SS for cartoony graphics, praises UC3 for "Adults&

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#51 nintendoboy16
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Why doesn't she just quit her job? She obviously sucks at it.Sgt_Crow
That's like asking Irate Gamer to quit reviewing.
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#52 TH1Sx1SxSPARTA
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Why doesn't she just quit her job? She obviously sucks at it.Sgt_Crow
cuz she gets paid??
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#53 Epak_
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Pffft, what does she know... :P

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#54 deactivated-58085ca3415e8
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Not going to bother watching the video, but did she really say Uncharted 3 and AC Revelations are innovative? LMAO what a joke.Wanderer5

The better question is did she really say Mario Galaxy wasn't innovative? If she did then she needs to look up the definition of the word and get out of the job. Innovation means to use new ideas. Mario Galaxy has done that for platformers. It used a lot of original ideas which are unique to the platforming genre. Uncharted and Assasin's Creed do nothing new. They just build on the previous installment.

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#55 Sgt_Crow
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[QUOTE="Sgt_Crow"]Why doesn't she just quit her job? She obviously sucks at it.TH1Sx1SxSPARTA
cuz she gets paid??

Are you sure? Who wants to pay her for her videogame-critic skills...? Nah it must be something else they pay her for.
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#56 anshul89
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I personally can't go near a wii because of how terrible the graphics are.

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#57 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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I personally can't go near a wii because of how terrible the graphics are.

anshul89
I'm sorry you missed out on some great games then.
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#58 D3dr0_0
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G4 still shows X-Play? I thought they only showed Cops and Cheaters.

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#59 dercoo
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I sort of agree.

I loved TP dark, LotR esc art sty le

I loved Windwakers styIe art cell shading (even more than ^)

SS, just looks:?, go for hot or cold, never aim for luk warm

That goes for art styIe too. Go for full cartoon or realistic, not a weid mix

Honestly which of these looks worse artistically

Glitchspot won't let me post another pic(of WW):(

But still, I believe WW & TP artstyIe>>>>>>SS

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#61 caryslan2
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G4 lost all relevance as a viable source of Video game news and opinion when they merged with Tech TV, killed off most of their shows, and became a poor-man's Spike TV. Back in 2002 or 2003, I would have take G4's opinion more seriously.

While we're on the subject, I have never liked X-Play. I never liked the hosts, I never liked their reviewers, and I never liked the show in general.

I find it funny how G4 still thinks they are revelant when it comes to video games after they went to all the trouble to cancel most of their Video Game shows and portray themselves as yet another "man's network."

Since the Tech TV merger, the only new show that I really enjoyed on their network was Code Monkeys. And even that got canceled after two seasons!

Maybe I'll be willing to listen to what G4 has to say in regards to video games when they again offer shows like Judgement Day, Arena, Cheat, Portal, Pulse and Icons.

Until then, I could care less about their opinions when it comes to video games.

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#62 FastEddie2121
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Oh my. I'd recommend she enter the witness protection program. Good thing she didn't explain that there is not a Zelda timeline and that until Link gets voice acting, Zelda games will always be stuck in the past afraid to try new things; no point in pouring gasoline over the fire.

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#63 Lucianu
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Oh my. I'd recommend she enter the witness protection program. Good thing she didn't explain that there is not a Zelda timeline and that until Link gets voice acting, Zelda games will always be stuck in the past afraid to try new things.FastEddie2121

Having no voice acting is a choice of st yle, not a requirement. Games aren't movies, they are games.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] All except for Twilight and Skyward. i5750at4Ghz

And in spite of that, you fail to see the point. :| Did The Wind Waker teach you nothing? Graphics don't matter jack, it's all about game design and mechanics, and Zelda has that on lock, it's always immaculate. There is literally no other game series that survives ONLY on the basis of pure and sheer level design like Zelda does. Graphics, especially in the case of Zelda, are a means to an end, the end being communicating said game design to the player.

I 100% disagree. Graphics matter just as much as everything else. It's just as much a part of the experience as the gameplay. Humans after all are extremely visual animals.

dude, your playing counter strike source and you have the nerves to talk about graphics? lol
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#65 Bigboi500
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Oh my. I'd recommend she enter the witness protection program. Good thing she didn't explain that there is not a Zelda timeline and that until Link gets voice acting, Zelda games will always be stuck in the past afraid to try new things; no point in pouring gasoline over the fire.

FastEddie2121

You know all about SS because you've clearly beaten it already? So Link doesn't have crappy voice acting...big whoop. As far as being "stuck in the past", that's pretty common with a lot of games still, so why pick on Zelda for doing the same thing other franchises continue to do to this day?

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#66 Lucianu
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You know all about SS because you've clearly beaten it already? So Link doesn't have crappy voice acting...big whoop. As far as being "stuck in the past", that's pretty common with a lot of games still, so why pick on Zelda for doing the same thing other franchises continue to do to this day?

Bigboi500

Yeah, i bet reading books is also a ancient practice that shouldn't exist for these guys.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="NaveedLife"] Super Metroid was much better, IMO, and also Yoshi's Island, but if we are talking top down views, then yes, I agree with you. [QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] TP doesn't look realistic at all..... I won't be missing anything. If I want to play a Zelda game I can simply fire up the N64.i5750at4Ghz

Really? Looks more realistic to me than Fable and stuff. And fine, you can play old Zelda games. We're gonna have fun with the new one, which potentially might be better than the N64 ones.

Me and you both know it won't be.

I thought Wind Waker was better than the N64 Zelda titles SS also has the chance to suceed them as well.

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#68 FastEddie2121
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[QUOTE="FastEddie2121"]Oh my. I'd recommend she enter the witness protection program. Good thing she didn't explain that there is not a Zelda timeline and that until Link gets voice acting, Zelda games will always be stuck in the past afraid to try new things.Lucianu

Having no voice acting is a choice of st yle, not a requirement. Games aren't movies, they are games.

I'm only putting these ideas forward as if they were her opinions, not mine.
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#69 jasonharris48
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Could Morgan Webb act anymore like Chris Bores (Irate Gamer)? He bashed Kirby's Epic Yarn for the same thing.nintendoboy16
Did he really do so? It's a freaking Kirby game what did he expect? lol

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#70 Lucianu
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I'm only putting these ideas forward as if they were her opinions, not mine. FastEddie2121

My bad, Eddie, though since i'm in a mood i'm also going to stress out for anyone els about it that voice acted and non-voice acted games co-existed since like the early 90s (before the PS1 by the way)., it's a choice of st yle.

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#71 DJ-Lafleur
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]Could Morgan Webb act anymore like Chris Bores (Irate Gamer)? He bashed Kirby's Epic Yarn for the same thing.jasonharris48

Did he really do so? It's a freaking Kirby game what did he expect? lol

Chris Bores isn't someone I'd go to for gaming info anyways, so he can say whatever crap he wants. Same with Morgan, I stopped caring about G4 after how it spiraled down to garbage, so she can say silly stuff as welll for all I care.

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#72 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]Could Morgan Webb act anymore like Chris Bores (Irate Gamer)? He bashed Kirby's Epic Yarn for the same thing.jasonharris48

Did he really do so? It's a freaking Kirby game what did he expect? lol

He pegged down the entire game for being kiddie. Really, these two are so much alike.
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#73 commonfate
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Who is Morgan Webb and why should I care about his opinion?

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#74 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Who is Morgan Webb and why should I care about his opinion?

commonfate
Well, for starters, Morgan Webb's a she... :P
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#75 MetalMajorWolf
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Haha. I got my joke of the day.

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#76 D1zzyCriminal
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The only thing I can nitpick at SS is the mammoth HUD. I mean look at it!

Im bored of realistic looking games, games like Borderlands, Deus Ex: HR, Torchlight hold my attention longer because its appealing to look at and stumulates things deeper that "Wow, that door REALLY looks like a door". Boo Hoo if you dont like the art style, become a photographer if you want to look at realistic pictures.

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#77 hakanakumono
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You can always tell when people are just trying to hate on something for the sake of hating on it when they're unable to pick up on the actual flaws of what they're discussing, and instead rely on non-issues.

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#78 commonfate
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[QUOTE="commonfate"]

Who is Morgan Webb and why should I care about his opinion?

charizard1605

Well, for starters, Morgan Webb's a she... :P

Okay. Read through some of the thread and it sounds like she is one of the hosts of that gaming channel, G4.

Do people actually hear other people's opinions and just think, "oh yeah that's right because she said so"?

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#79 anshul89
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[QUOTE="anshul89"]

I personally can't go near a wii because of how terrible the graphics are.

charizard1605

I'm sorry you missed out on some great games then.

*yawn* I've missed many games on my PC, PS3, 360 and psp. The last thing I need is having a backlog of blurry sd games.

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#80 ManicAce
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Meh, was just playing Plants vs Zombies and it's a better game than Uncharted 2, mainstream gaming media has a pretty narrow view on games. That being said I don't like the new Zelda's graphics either, if it's cartoony it should be vibrant too, it just looks kinda bland.
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#81 jun_aka_pekto
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What's wrong with a game looking cartoonish? It's a freaking game.

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#82 TrapJak
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This is the same people who gave Zelda:WW praise for its cartoon graphics.

Something smells fishy here...

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#83 -Snooze-
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Uncharted looks cartoony too. Zelda would look nice with Uncharted bart direction, and power. A linear mess, but still nice.

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#84 Chemical_Viking
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You can always tell when people are just trying to hate on something for the sake of hating on it when they're unable to pick up on the actual flaws of what they're discussing, and instead rely on non-issues.

hakanakumono
I agree. People hating on Morgan Webb on this very thread do indeed display these characteristics.
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#85 IndianaPwns39
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You shouldn't trash one or the other, you should praise the industry for offering different styles. Can you imagine if everything was CoD? FPS fans are already suffering :P

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#86 Lto_thaG
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So what?

Did you see what they said about TR?
Those 2 are insufferable oafs.

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#87 silversix_
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G4 sucks but so does SS's art style.
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#88 drinkerofjuice
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I honestly don't care about SS having cartoony graphics. I care it about it looking unimpressive compared to other Zelda titles.

But they said a few other things in that video that just made me scratch my head.

I don't wanna go around and start calling people idiots. But man, in this occasion, it's hard not to.

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#89 Krelian-co
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couldn't care less, i love zelda

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#90 hiryu3
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so what was so wrong with what she said? Zelda is boring now and I've played them all since the first one.
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#91 Lto_thaG
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"Tomb Raider.The same game is being done in games like Uncharted"

Dear God...

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#92 chocolate1325
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This is a laugh calling Uncharted innovative what did it do that was innovative. It didn't perfect over the shoulder gameplay or climbing mechanics it stole them off Tomb Raider. Also I like the cartoony design it adds a bit more character to the series of Zelda because Wind Waker beat Ocarina of Time for me and Skyward Sword is looking very intresting.

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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] And in spite of that, you fail to see the point. :| Did The Wind Waker teach you nothing? Graphics don't matter jack, it's all about game design and mechanics, and Zelda has that on lock, it's always immaculate. There is literally no other game series that survives ONLY on the basis of pure and sheer level design like Zelda does. Graphics, especially in the case of Zelda, are a means to an end, the end being communicating said game design to the player.i3DS

I 100% disagree. Graphics matter just as much as everything else. It's just as much a part of the experience as the gameplay. Humans after all are extremely visual animals.

that is sooo true.

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#94 TGM_basic
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I see nothing wrong with saying facts, Zelda is indeed cartoonish looking game

finalstar2007

Which is one of the things that actually works in its favor.

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#95 BrunoBRS
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this is how it worked on the other thread (the one on the wii board) for me: *sees link* *reads G4* :lol: *walks away*
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#96 rzepak
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Who is Morgan Webb?
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#97 Heil68
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Who is Morgan Webb?
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#98 Iantheone
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Who is Morgan Webb?rzepak
Who is Morgan Webb?Heil68
Some hot woman they put on the program to appeal to basement dwelling gamers.
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#99 Ratchet_Fan8
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her oppinion. cartoon games ftw im not even buying UC3 :) instead going for cartoony ratchet and clank A40 :) And my next years most anticipated game?Another cartoony game Sly 4 :D