Morgan Webb slams Zelda: SS for cartoony graphics, praises UC3 for "Adults&

so what was so wrong with what she said? Zelda is boring now and I've played them all since the first one.hiryu3

They talked about how the Assassin's Creed games bring new features and new mechanics with each new iteration that comes out. What do they think that the Zelda games have been doing? The only difference is the last one (Twilight Princess) felt a lot more like Ocarina of Time than the other two that came out after Ocarina of Time (Majora's Mask and Wind Waker). Also considering they're in the games journalism business, I figure they should know that Skyward Sword is suppose to have an all new structure to it than the traditional 3D Zelda games.

All this video showed me is that they're misinformed and since they have a voice on TV they're misinforming other people who watch their show.

She said the same thing about SMG2. Kiddy graphics.

Idk, I play Zelda games because I love puzzle solving, Zelda dungeons are amazing for that. I don't play them for "the sense of adventure". Zelda games are all about high quality puzzles. SS' new combat system makes enemies themselves be small puzzles and the overworld itself being a dungeon makes it my most hyped game this year, as well as 'dungeons within dungeons' and Metroid-style backtracking. My hype is in the form of potential right now, granted, because we know very little of the game.

And I play Mario games because they have incredible level designs. What makes these things possible is the fact that they consistently introduce new gameplay mechanics to make the formulas feel fresh most of the time.

I have no interest in Uncharted 3 despite my love for 2, because it's literally the same game to me. A focus on stereo 3D (too expensive) and MP (I'm a SP guy) doesn't help its situation.

See, nowhere in my discussion did I mention terms like graphics or art direction! You can do it too!

The funny part about this is that Skyward Swords visuals are some of the most adult visuals to come out this gen.

G4 still exists?

someone needs to go back to the kitchen or get slapped

painguy1

The funny part about this is that Skyward Swords visuals are some of the most adult visuals to come out this gen.

Heirren

I wonder what her opinion is of Majora's Mask, had that game released on 3DS with OoT 3D's graphics update. I don't get it, is it the use of colors, non realistic characters or the actual nature of the game? Cuz MM is one of the most adult/dark/serious games I've ever played, despite being cartoony.

it is kinda true. i dont like how SS is trying to revert back to a ocarina of time style instead of trying to push foward with a more realistic look. it looks graphically and visually inferior to twilight princess and that was released 5 years ago.

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

The funny part about this is that Skyward Swords visuals are some of the most adult visuals to come out this gen.

SuperFlakeman

I wonder what her opinion is of Majora's Mask, had that game released on 3DS with OoT 3D's graphics update. I don't get it, is it the use of colors, non realistic characters or the actual nature of the game? Cuz MM is one of the most adult/dark/serious games I've ever played, despite being cartoony.

There's a huge misconception here. Cartoony does not make something immature. For example, if one were to take a screen grab of Mario Galaxy and Gears of War into a shape/color theory class, the Mario Galaxy shot would be considered the more "mature" image because of its masterful use of shape and color. SSs visuals were made to mimic a painting. How do people turn that into being immature?

it is kinda true. i dont like how SS is trying to revert back to a ocarina of time style instead of trying to push foward with a more realistic look. it looks graphically and visually inferior to twilight princess and that was released 5 years ago.

arbitor365

it is kinda true. i dont like how SS is trying to revert back to a ocarina of time style instead of trying to push foward with a more realistic look. it looks graphically and visually inferior to twilight princess and that was released 5 years ago.

arbitor365

By that analysis, MadWorld must be a kids game. Because cartoon graphics=immaturity, right?

[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

it is kinda true. i dont like how SS is trying to revert back to a ocarina of time style instead of trying to push foward with a more realistic look. it looks graphically and visually inferior to twilight princess and that was released 5 years ago.

Haziqonfire

Because looking realistic is the only way anyone takes anything seriously. Artistic design and flair? Kiddy. Has to be. :|

instead of trying to push foward with a more realistic look.arbitor365

It's common knowledge that Morgan Webb doesn't love Nintendo games. It's her god given right to like whatever she wants, leave her alone. Your opinion isn't any more important than hers. Bread_or_Decide

Of course it is, especially given what her profession is covering. She should be knowledgeable of the subject, but clearly isn't. Just like a sports announcer should understand the aspects of the game being covered, someone within the game business should understand the criteria from which they are made. That comment is rather disrespectful to the game artists.

........yea i stopped watchin g4 a while back they are utter jokes. i also stop watchin xplay when they went primetime and the episodes got cut to 30 mins.....they honestly dont even review games on the show anymore

but yea sessler is still pretty cool

It's always about the graphics with these "expert reviewers", g4 is a joke.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]It's common knowledge that Morgan Webb doesn't love Nintendo games. It's her god given right to like whatever she wants, leave her alone. Your opinion isn't any more important than hers. Heirren

Of course it is, especially given what her profession is covering. She should be knowledgeable of the subject, but clearly isn't. Just like a sports announcer should understand the aspects of the game being covered, someone within the game business should understand the criteria from which they are made. That comment is rather disrespectful to the game artists.

It's always about the graphics with these "expert reviewers", g4 is a joke.

lbjkurono23

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]It's common knowledge that Morgan Webb doesn't love Nintendo games. It's her god given right to like whatever she wants, leave her alone. Your opinion isn't any more important than hers. Bread_or_Decide

Of course it is, especially given what her profession is covering. She should be knowledgeable of the subject, but clearly isn't. Just like a sports announcer should understand the aspects of the game being covered, someone within the game business should understand the criteria from which they are made. That comment is rather disrespectful to the game artists.

But it wasn't made for the GC. It was made for the Wii, and it took Nintendo six years to do so. Why harp on what is done instead of enjoy what is to come?

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]It's common knowledge that Morgan Webb doesn't love Nintendo games. It's her god given right to like whatever she wants, leave her alone. Your opinion isn't any more important than hers. Bread_or_Decide

Of course it is, especially given what her profession is covering. She should be knowledgeable of the subject, but clearly isn't. Just like a sports announcer should understand the aspects of the game being covered, someone within the game business should understand the criteria from which they are made. That comment is rather disrespectful to the game artists.

I'm pretty this game was developed with motion controls in mind, from the ground up. I do agree with you that it should have been released already--I would not doubt if it was held off to maximize wii sales.

Nintendo needs a swift kick in the butt for taking six years to release THIS game which could have been done on the gamecube for goodness sakes. Bread_or_Decide

The Wii has motion controls and the GameCube doesn't.

The game was build around the Wii's MotionPlus, from enemies to puzzles to dungeons.

Also development changed throughout the cycle of the game, initially starting without MotionPlus until they realized it's better to use MotionPlus after Wii Sports Resort's sword dueling. From there on out the whole game and it's mechanics were designed around MotionPlus.

So really this whole point is moot.

Edit: Also, considering the position Morgan Webb is, she shouldn't try to show how bias she is. This rarely is acceptable in other mediums, why is it okay in ours?

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="Heirren"]

Of course it is, especially given what her profession is covering. She should be knowledgeable of the subject, but clearly isn't. Just like a sports announcer should understand the aspects of the game being covered, someone within the game business should understand the criteria from which they are made. That comment is rather disrespectful to the game artists.

Heirren

I'm pretty this game was developed with motion controls in mind, from the ground up. I do agree with you that it should have been released already--I would not doubt if it was held off to maximize wii sales.

[QUOTE="lbjkurono23"]

It's always about the graphics with these "expert reviewers", g4 is a joke.

Bread_or_Decide

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] Nintendo needs a swift kick in the butt for taking six years to release THIS game which could have been done on the gamecube for goodness sakes. Bread_or_Decide

I'm pretty this game was developed with motion controls in mind, from the ground up. I do agree with you that it should have been released already--I would not doubt if it was held off to maximize wii sales.

What exactly is your problem with NIntendo? I don't even own a wii, but most of the best games of this gen are on that platform. Also, I've played wii sports resort and the Motion control in that is rather impressive.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]Nintendo needs a swift kick in the butt for taking six years to release THIS game which could have been done on the gamecube for goodness sakes. Haziqonfire

The Wii has motion controls and the GameCube doesn't.

The game was build around the Wii's MotionPlus, from enemies to puzzles to dungeons.

Also development changed throughout the cycle of the game, initially starting without MotionPlus until they realized it's better to use MotionPlus after Wii Sports Resort's sword dueling. From there on out the whole game and it's mechanics were designed around MotionPlus.

So really this whole point is moot.

Edit: Also, considering the position Morgan Webb is, she shouldn't try to show how bias she is. This rarely is acceptable in other mediums, why is it okay in ours?

Does anyone care about motion controls anymore? The game STILL doesn't deliver on the one to one motion Nintendo promised on launch day. Turning every tiny battle into a mini puzzle on where to slash is going to get real old real fast. And after playing Red Steel I got real tired of swining my damn hand around playing it. Motion sucks. Bread_or_Decide

What promise?

If you don't like Motion Control then really, too bad.

Also, surprised you're trying this hard to dismiss the game.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="Heirren"]

I'm pretty this game was developed with motion controls in mind, from the ground up. I do agree with you that it should have been released already--I would not doubt if it was held off to maximize wii sales.

Heirren

What exactly is your problem with NIntendo? I don't even own a wii, but most of the best games of this gen are on that platform. Also, I've played wii sports resort and the Motion control in that is rather impressive.

God I am more surprised Adam sessler let her get away without trying to damage control or disagreeing. Xplay wtf they were G4s only good show.

[QUOTE="rzepak"]Who is Morgan Webb?Iantheone

Who is Morgan Webb?Heil68

shes not hot

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]Does anyone care about motion controls anymore? The game STILL doesn't deliver on the one to one motion Nintendo promised on launch day. Turning every tiny battle into a mini puzzle on where to slash is going to get real old real fast. And after playing Red Steel I got real tired of swining my damn hand around playing it. Motion sucks. Haziqonfire

What promise?

If you don't like Motion Control then really, too bad.

Also, surprised you're trying this hard to dismiss the game.

[QUOTE="Iantheone"][QUOTE="rzepak"] [QUOTE="Heil68"]Who is Morgan Webb?Mario1331

shes not hot

[QUOTE="Iantheone"][QUOTE="rzepak"] [QUOTE="Heil68"]Who is Morgan Webb?Mario1331

shes not hot

She's a very attractive woman.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]Does anyone care about motion controls anymore? The game STILL doesn't deliver on the one to one motion Nintendo promised on launch day. Turning every tiny battle into a mini puzzle on where to slash is going to get real old real fast. And after playing Red Steel I got real tired of swining my damn hand around playing it. Motion sucks. Bread_or_Decide

What promise?

If you don't like Motion Control then really, too bad.

Also, surprised you're trying this hard to dismiss the game.

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="Iantheone"] Some hot woman they put on the program to appeal to basement dwelling gamers. Heirren

shes not hot

She's a very attractive woman.

I had to look her up...

I'd do her.

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

shes not hot

mmmwksil

She's a very attractive woman.

I had to look her up...

I'd do her.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]Nintendo needs a swift kick in the butt for taking six years to release THIS game which could have been done on the gamecube for goodness sakes. Bread_or_Decide

The Wii has motion controls and the GameCube doesn't.

The game was build around the Wii's MotionPlus, from enemies to puzzles to dungeons.

Also development changed throughout the cycle of the game, initially starting without MotionPlus until they realized it's better to use MotionPlus after Wii Sports Resort's sword dueling. From there on out the whole game and it's mechanics were designed around MotionPlus.

So really this whole point is moot.

Edit: Also, considering the position Morgan Webb is, she shouldn't try to show how bias she is. This rarely is acceptable in other mediums, why is it okay in ours?

wow......

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="Iantheone"] Some hot woman they put on the program to appeal to basement dwelling gamers. Bread_or_Decide

shes not hot

she really isnt she looks better when she first started but by all means not hot

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

shes not hot

mmmwksil

She's a very attractive woman.

I had to look her up...

I'd do her.

jessica albas hot, mila kunis is hot, olivia munn is hot

if your saying morgan stacks up with them i pray for you

[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

She's a very attractive woman.

Lto_thaG

I had to look her up...

I'd do her.

id do her but shes not all that to me

What G4 wants Zelda to be like:

What G4 wants Zelda to be like:

i3DS

MY EYES!

What G4 wants Zelda to be like:

i3DS

[QUOTE="lbjkurono23"]

It's always about the graphics with these "expert reviewers", g4 is a joke.

Bread_or_Decide