Morgan Webb slams Zelda: SS for cartoony graphics, praises UC3 for "Adults&

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#251 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Who the f*** cares what G4 thinks?

DarkLink77

When they attack Nintendo and praise teh hardcore games, SW apparently.

No one should ever care what they think, with the exception of Adam Sessler. G4 is a giant joke.

No, even Sessler isn't that trust worthy.
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#252 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

When they attack Nintendo and praise teh hardcore games, SW apparently.

nintendoboy16

No one should ever care what they think, with the exception of Adam Sessler. G4 is a giant joke.

No, even Sessler isn't that trust worthy.

His "F*** MetaCritic" speech made him one of my favorite people for a while.

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#253 madsnakehhh
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

When they attack Nintendo and praise teh hardcore games, SW apparently.

nintendoboy16

No one should ever care what they think, with the exception of Adam Sessler. G4 is a giant joke.

No, even Sessler isn't that trust worthy.

He has some moments, but yeah, G4 its kind of like the Perez Hilton of video games.

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#254 Pegalamp
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] And in spite of that, you fail to see the point. :| Did The Wind Waker teach you nothing? Graphics don't matter jack, it's all about game design and mechanics, and Zelda has that on lock, it's always immaculate. There is literally no other game series that survives ONLY on the basis of pure and sheer level design like Zelda does. Graphics, especially in the case of Zelda, are a means to an end, the end being communicating said game design to the player.charizard1605

I 100% disagree. Graphics matter just as much as everything else. It's just as much a part of the experience as the gameplay. Humans after all are extremely visual animals.

False. A game like A Link to the Past holds up better than most modern games, simply BECAUSE of its level design. Same with Ocarina of Time. Same with Wind Waker. I am sorry that your opinion means that you will end up missing out on what promises to be a great, great game, but please stop passing it off as fact. Also, if I may ask, since you seem to have an issue with Nintendo's cartoony art styIe in particular, why did you not play the hyper realistic looking Twilight Princess?

OoT? So you say Zelda holds up because of repetitive and balnd level desing? This is SW and I think I am allowed to say your opinion is wrong.

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#255 Lucianu
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So i googled some pics of this irrelevant dudette i've never heard before, and i swear, man, she is ugly as if she's the female version of He-Man.. What ya'll see in her, i have no idea.

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#256 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] I 100% disagree. Graphics matter just as much as everything else. It's just as much a part of the experience as the gameplay. Humans after all are extremely visual animals.

Pegalamp

False. A game like A Link to the Past holds up better than most modern games, simply BECAUSE of its level design. Same with Ocarina of Time. Same with Wind Waker. I am sorry that your opinion means that you will end up missing out on what promises to be a great, great game, but please stop passing it off as fact. Also, if I may ask, since you seem to have an issue with Nintendo's cartoony art styIe in particular, why did you not play the hyper realistic looking Twilight Princess?

OoT? So you say Zelda holds up because of repetitive and balnd level desing? This is SW and I think I am allowed to say your opinion is wrong.

I would hardly say that OoT has bland and repetitive level design.
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#257 Lto_thaG
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G4 its kind of like the Perez Hilton of video games.

madsnakehhh


We can all hope Morgan makes the same mistake as Paris.Forgetting to turn off the camera during sexy time.

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#258 _BlueDuck_
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My hypothesis about Morgan Webb is that she gets bent out of shape whenever a child-friendly games (ie most Nintendo games) get high praise and attention, because she is uncomfortable with the fact that the industry she works in is predominantly targetted towards teenagers and children. Anything acknowledging this fact (for example, Mario or other cartoony characters being the face of the industry) is met with opposition.

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#259 Renegade_Fury
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So i googled some pics of this irrelevant dudette i've never heard before, and i swear, man, she is ugly as if she's the female version of He-Man.. What ya'll see in her, i have no idea.

Lucianu

She's a woman on a game show, so standards are instantly met. I've always thought she looks like a man with a wig on, kind of like Dana Jacobson from ESPN First Take. Though in her defense, Jacobson is actually worth listening to.

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#260 DJ_Headshot
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She only speaks the truth.
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#261 Lucianu
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She's a woman on a game show, so standards are instantly met. I've always thought she looks like a man with a wig on, kind of like Dana Jacobson from ESPN First Take.

Renegade_Fury

By the way, now that i remember, make up, clothing, the angle of the shot, all that can make a giant difference. If you get a good photograph, with all the trims and all that, any average Joe can look like the hottest thing ever. I've seen some pics of this female on google.

But that 'Dolph Lundgren' type a face she's got going on cannot be hidden.

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#262 Luxen90
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But that 'Dolph Lundgren' type a face she's got going on cannot be hidden.

Lucianu

hahaha, you are amazing.

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#263 Renegade_Fury
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[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

She's a woman on a game show, so standards are instantly met. I've always thought she looks like a man with a wig on, kind of like Dana Jacobson from ESPN First Take.

Lucianu

By the way, now that i remember, make up, clothing, the angle of the shot, all that can make a giant difference. If you get a good photograph, with all the trims and all that, any average Joe can look like the hottest thing ever. I've seen some pics of this female on google.

But that 'Dolph Lundgren' type a face she's got going on cannot be hidden.

LOL, that's so cold, and yet so right! :lol:

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#264 LastRambo341
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She only speaks the truth.DJ_Headshot
Ya sure, a modern gamer that plays modern games like shooter speaks the truth. Aha
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#265 eboyishere
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morgan webb isnt a ps3 fangirl....shes far from it, i remember she bashed the ps3 for 3 years lol

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#266 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

G4 its kind of like the Perez Hilton of video games.

Lto_thaG


We can all hope Morgan makes the same mistake as Paris.Forgetting to turn off the camera during sexy time.

yeah, right, "forgetting".

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#267 deactivated-5f26ed7cf0697
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:lol: she didn't even slam LoZSS. Not to the point of: "Zelda SUCKS, it's so damn kiddy!!1"

Some of you guys are so touchy when it comes Wii graphics.

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#268 xLittlekillx
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I would definitely rather play a new zelda game than a new uncharted game. Which is ironic and depressing because I sold my wii to get a ps3.

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#270 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="VERTIGO47"]

:lol: she didn't even slam LoZSS. Not to the point of: "Zelda SUCKS, it's so damn kiddy!!1"

Some of you guys are so touchy when it comes Wii graphics.

SRTtoZ

Nintendo or should I say Zelda fanboys are theee most sensitive type. You gotta go easy on em sometimes becauuse they take offense very easily...very passive aggressive everytime I try to have a logical discussion.

If you think that is true then you have a LOT of research to do
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#271 eboyishere
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:lol: she didn't even slam LoZSS. Not to the point of: "Zelda SUCKS, it's so damn kiddy!!1"

Some of you guys are so touchy when it comes Wii graphics.

VERTIGO47

naw they get touchy when it comes to anything nintendo :roll:

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#272 xLittlekillx
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[QUOTE="VERTIGO47"]

:lol: she didn't even slam LoZSS. Not to the point of: "Zelda SUCKS, it's so damn kiddy!!1"

Some of you guys are so touchy when it comes Wii graphics.

eboyishere

naw they get touchy when it comes to anything nintendo :roll:

Just to play the devil's advocate here, this "Morgan Webb says something bad about a nintendo game and something good about a PS3 game!" topic was posted in system wars, so I'd think you should expect people to respond as if morgan webb is attacking one console while supporting the other.

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#273 SRTtoZ
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[QUOTE="eboyishere"]

[QUOTE="VERTIGO47"]

:lol: she didn't even slam LoZSS. Not to the point of: "Zelda SUCKS, it's so damn kiddy!!1"

Some of you guys are so touchy when it comes Wii graphics.

xLittlekillx

naw they get touchy when it comes to anything nintendo :roll:

Just to play the devil's advocate here, this "Morgan Webb says something bad about a nintendo game and something good about a PS3 game!" topic was posted in system wars, so I'd think you should expect people to respond as if morgan webb is attacking one console while supporting the other.

True, but if people actually watch the video you will see she backs up her opinion with facts. She doesnt just say "Zelda is bad, la la la la la laaaa" she or I should say THEY explain why they feel the way they do. It makes total sense to some of us...others dont want to see behind the curtain and will choose not to believe it, and thats ok but dont act like she doesnt make a few good points. Believe it or not Adam Sessler is a hardcore gamer so I would choose to take his opinion over the bunch of nobodies on this forum who spout at the mouth without backing anything up.

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#274 ActionRemix
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What? She didn't say anything objectionable. It's true that Zelda has little hype this year.
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#275 xLittlekillx
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Adam Sessler is one of the reasons I sold my wii for a ps3. He said Uncharted 2 was the best single player gaming experience he's ever had. I got bored a few hours in and never played it again. And now I can't play the new zelda game. Thank god for the blu ray player and infamous 2.

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#276 TrapJak
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Adam Sessler is one of the reasons I sold my wii for a ps3. He said Uncharted 2 was the best single player gaming experience he's ever had. I got bored a few hours in and never played it again. And now I can't play the new zelda game. Thank god for the blu ray player and infamous 2.

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#277 ActionRemix
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Is Uncharted 2 any better than Uncharted 1? UC1 was mostly a bore-fest for me.
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#278 madsnakehhh
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[QUOTE="xLittlekillx"]

[QUOTE="eboyishere"]

naw they get touchy when it comes to anything nintendo :roll:

SRTtoZ

Just to play the devil's advocate here, this "Morgan Webb says something bad about a nintendo game and something good about a PS3 game!" topic was posted in system wars, so I'd think you should expect people to respond as if morgan webb is attacking one console while supporting the other.

True, but if people actually watch the video you will see she backs up her opinion with facts. She doesnt just say "Zelda is bad, la la la la la laaaa" she or I should say THEY explain why they feel the way they do. It makes total sense to some of us...others dont want to see behind the curtain and will choose not to believe it, and thats ok but dont act like she doesnt make a few good points. Believe it or not Adam Sessler is a hardcore gamer so I would choose to take his opinion over the bunch of nobodies on this forum who spout at the mouth without backing anything up.

And yet they called Uncharted 3 innovative...while calling Zelda stale just saying.

And no, Adam Sessler is not a hardcore gamer...

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#279 T_REX305
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Is Uncharted 2 any better than Uncharted 1? UC1 was mostly a bore-fest for me. ActionRemix

IMO yes. Though I thought UC1 had a bit better story then UC2. But the story in UC2 was also great. Everything else was a massive upgrade.

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#280 bbkkristian
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G4 is full of people like this:

Not real gamers, just fads.

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#281 deactivated-5ef52b89b6fd0
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I agree, I would love if nintendo brought there games out of the 90's era nd made them modern like everything else. This is part of the reason I cant stand nintendo anymore, they seem to be riding on past accomplishments. Wake me up when they become revelant to people over 12 years old.

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#282 madsnakehhh
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I agree, I would love if nintendo brought there games out of the 90's era nd made them modern like everything else. This is part of the reason I cant stand nintendo anymore, they seem to be riding on past accomplishments. Wake me up when they become revelant to people over 12 years old.

Advid-Gamer

Hey dude, wake up, its about time :)

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#283 Marka1700
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Coulorfull graphics are for the kiddies is a pretty childish attitude.
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#284 deactivated-5ef52b89b6fd0
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Coulorfull graphics are for the kiddies is a pretty childish attitude.Marka1700
Gears and uncharted are colorful, colors is not what makes it kiddy, is the art style and the over all look of the game. I was a huge zelda fan back in the day, but I have to say this one looks very childish. I dont even know why people bother to deny it, look its right there.
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#285 bobcheeseball
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I agree, I would love if nintendo brought there games out of the 90's era nd made them modern like everything else. This is part of the reason I cant stand nintendo anymore, they seem to be riding on past accomplishments. Wake me up when they become revelant to people over 12 years old.

Advid-Gamer
I'm over 12 years old...:) At least I think I am.
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#286 bbkkristian
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[QUOTE="Marka1700"]Coulorfull graphics are for the kiddies is a pretty childish attitude.Advid-Gamer
Gears and uncharted are colorful, colors is not what makes it kiddy, is the art style and the over all look of the game. I was a huge zelda fan back in the day, but I have to say this one looks very childish. I dont even know why people bother to deny it, look its right there.

Please, don't make me bring up the C.S. Lewis quote about "kiddy." :x

EDIT: Nevermind, Too late:

Critics who treat adult as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up. " CS Lewis

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#287 mitu123
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Is Uncharted 2 any better than Uncharted 1? UC1 was mostly a bore-fest for me. ActionRemix
Uncharted 2 is way better, the 1st is overrated and flawed.

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I agree, I would love if nintendo brought there games out of the 90's era nd made them modern like everything else. This is part of the reason I cant stand nintendo anymore, they seem to be riding on past accomplishments. Wake me up when they become revelant to people over 12 years old.

Advid-Gamer

I hear this way too often, can someone go into detail what this means?




Please dont say HD.

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#289 eboyishere
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[QUOTE="xLittlekillx"]

[QUOTE="eboyishere"]

naw they get touchy when it comes to anything nintendo :roll:

SRTtoZ

Just to play the devil's advocate here, this "Morgan Webb says something bad about a nintendo game and something good about a PS3 game!" topic was posted in system wars, so I'd think you should expect people to respond as if morgan webb is attacking one console while supporting the other.

True, but if people actually watch the video you will see she backs up her opinion with facts. She doesnt just say "Zelda is bad, la la la la la laaaa" she or I should say THEY explain why they feel the way they do. It makes total sense to some of us...others dont want to see behind the curtain and will choose not to believe it, and thats ok but dont act like she doesnt make a few good points. Believe it or not Adam Sessler is a hardcore gamer so I would choose to take his opinion over the bunch of nobodies on this forum who spout at the mouth without backing anything up.

sessler definitely is a HC gamer

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A Nobody.

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#293 layton2012
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At least she didnt praise COD in comparison to zelda becauses its for adults, she is still completely wrong though my 25 year old brother hates M games the last game he played was uncharted though but he is still cant wait for LOZSS and cant wait for a day where people stop stereotyping what age group a game is for just because im 20 doesnt mean I hate zelda and love UC I actually love both :)

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#294 xLittlekillx
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At least she didnt praise COD in comparison to zelda becauses its for adults, she is still completely wrong though my 25 year old brother hates M games the last game he played was uncharted though but he is still cant wait for LOZSS and cant wait for a day where people stop stereotyping what age group a game is for just because im 20 doesnt mean I hate zelda and love UC I actually love both :)

layton2012

Sounds like she's ashamed to be associated with the stereotype that games are for kids, so she wants to distance herself from games that can be enjoyed by kids.

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#295 finalstar2007
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Wow 15 pages just because someone said a nintendo game looks cartnoony? so what? it does look cartoony why so mad? i dont get it :P. so defensive wow

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#296 The_Djoker
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I don't get fanboys? what did she exactly say? ok she was being ignorant about the graphics but the gamepaly comment is fair. Zelda looks underwhelming as ****. This is coming from a bigger Zelda fan than most of you people...Uncharted looks ridiculous, i went to eurogamer last week and saw a conference with Nolan north and they showed some more new stuff..the game is mindblowingly good. I played SS at the event too..grea.t.nothing amazing. Seriously, is the argument here what she said about the graphics or the uncharted comparison? because you'd have tp be a massive zelda fanboy to say zelda SS looks better than Uncharted 3.
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#297 TrapJak
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Wow 15 pages just because someone said a nintendo game looks cartnoony? so what? it does look cartoony why so mad? i dont get it :P. so defensive wow

finalstar2007

I think the main thing that's enraging people is how she called Uncharted innovative.

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#298 The_Djoker
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Wow 15 pages just because someone said a nintendo game looks cartnoony? so what? it does look cartoony why so mad? i dont get it :P. so defensive wow

finalstar2007
Zelda fanbase we're talking about. Teh same fanbase that RAG'd when Jeff gave TP a deserved 8.8 I would say Jeff overrated that mess big time. Zelda hasn't been "great" since MM/OoT. The GBC games were amazing and WW was decent but since then they have been the same stuff, least evolving franchise ever.
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#299 bbkkristian
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Wow 15 pages just because someone said a nintendo game looks cartnoony? so what? it does look cartoony why so mad? i dont get it :P. so defensive wow

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She didn't say it looked cartoony, she said that it doesn't compare to Uncharted 3 graphically, which I think the two games are in two completely different ballparks. SS is more artistic while Uncharted is more realistic.
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#300 The_Djoker
Member since 2011 • 210 Posts

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Wow 15 pages just because someone said a nintendo game looks cartnoony? so what? it does look cartoony why so mad? i dont get it :P. so defensive wow

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I think the main thing that's enraging people is how she called Uncharted innovative.

Where? not in that clip.