MS changing their Architecture for Next Box?

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#301 tormentos
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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Chozofication"]You're one crazy sob to be talking about things all the time of which you know nothing about...

Also your precious Uncharted is ugly as ****, hate to tell ya.

percuvius2

So much buthurt oh Uncharted look ugly sega is the best..:lol:

We already PROVED you have no 360 which is why you have NO ACHIEVEMENTS so your opinion is WORTHLESS.

Is that you clone01.? :lol:
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#302 clone01
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[QUOTE="percuvius2"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] So much buthurt oh Uncharted look ugly sega is the best..:lol:tormentos

We already PROVED you have no 360 which is why you have NO ACHIEVEMENTS so your opinion is WORTHLESS.

Is that you clone01.? :lol:

Nope...I'm not the only one who knows you're an idiot fakeboy, eltormo.
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#303 tormentos
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Didn't say anything about Sega, i've never owned a Sega console. 

Uncharted is a hideous mess on a mess of a console.  Actually, i've owned a PS3 longer than any other console this generation.  Ps4 will be the first Sony console i'll be glad to own, though, since PS1.

Chozofication

 

 

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So epic..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncharted_2:_Among_Thieves#Awards
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#304 tormentos
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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="percuvius2"]

We already PROVED you have no 360 which is why you have NO ACHIEVEMENTS so your opinion is WORTHLESS.

clone01
Is that you clone01.? :lol:

Nope...I'm not the only one who knows you're an idiot fakeboy, eltormo.

But but eltormo...:lol: still scratching your head on how did i get here before you did...
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#305 clone01
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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="tormentos"] Is that you clone01.? :lol:

Nope...I'm not the only one who knows you're an idiot fakeboy, eltormo.

But but eltormo...:lol: still scratching your head on how did i get here before you did...

What does join date have to do with being a fakeboy piece of sh*t like yourself, eltormo?
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#306 mane_basic
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Does not find it funny that we barely know anything about the ps4 which has been revealed but we know everything about the nexbox which hasn't... ok we know the bw of the ram but we don't know how much of that bw the cpu uses or the input devices uses(IE the new camera) u guys talk the bw like crazy yet there so much we DON'T know. just just how much mem will the cpu and cam use but how much of the bw do they eat up there no way the gpu will ever see the 176g/s max becuase it will alway be sharing the bus. just as we know the xbox will never see the max 170g/s. what we know with the xbox is it has a dedicated 102g/s bw from the esram and 38g/s to the main ram but a shared 30g/s thru the north brigde (shared with the cpu, camera, usb, and hdd) as seem here... http://www.vgleaks.com/durango-memory-system-overview/#comments...

i'm not saying the xbox will be stronger truth is i don't care i'm just saying no one on here have a clue of the total real spec of both system cause the offical full spec on the ps4 still isn't out yet we still going on off rumors which is fine it just when it gets to the point someone is calling someone else dumb for making a point but with no fact when the one calling him dumb has no facts himself is a bit crazy... the leaks for the xbox could be true but they also could be wrong hell there is rumors MS is making two xboxes this could be the weaker one who knows for sure i would like to see more explaining of pov. like i would like to hear about the latency vs bw cause MS went low latency over higher bw. also how will compression down to l1 while saving bw might hurt them else where. so of u guys on here use to be great at explaining these thing but lately all i read is about gddr5 and that not exciting at all..

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#307 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Chozofication"]You're one crazy sob to be talking about things all the time of which you know nothing about...

Also your precious Uncharted is ugly as ****, hate to tell ya.

Chozofication

So much buthurt oh Uncharted look ugly sega is the best..:lol:

Didn't say anything about Sega, i've never owned a Sega console. 

Uncharted is a hideous mess on a mess of a console.  Actually, i've owned a PS3 longer than any other console this generation.  Ps4 will be the first Sony console i'll be glad to own, though, since PS1.

Wait, weren't you talking up the Dreamcast? Or were you just messing about?

I have hundreds of games for my two Dreamcasts and I've played those DC titles hundreds of times. I was just curious how you formed your opinions about the DC vs. PS2 if you didn't own and play a DC...many times?

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#308 tormentos
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[QUOTE="clone01"] What does join date have to do with being a fakeboy piece of sh*t like yourself, eltormo?

Well at least i am not obsess with every single new poster nor care to know their gamercard or PSN id obsessively like you..:lol: Still mad because i prove your sorry ass wrong about not having a 360,but but is your friend 360 but but your gamercard..:lol:
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#309 blackace
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They can't beat 8GB GDDR5 no matter what, so it doesn't matter.

ImBatman-
Doesn't 12GB GDDR5 beat it? LOL!! Anything (and I mean anything) can be beaten. There's ALWAYS something better.
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#310 blackace
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[QUOTE="Chozofication"]

 

Didn't say anything about Sega, i've never owned a Sega console. 

Uncharted is a hideous mess on a mess of a console.  Actually, i've owned a PS3 longer than any other console this generation.  Ps4 will be the first Sony console i'll be glad to own, though, since PS1.

tormentos

 

 

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So epic..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncharted_2:_Among_Thieves#Awards

Every Cow on here needs to filling one of these out. Some need to fill it out a several times. lol!!
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#311 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"] What does join date have to do with being a fakeboy piece of sh*t like yourself, eltormo?tormentos
Well at least i am not obsess with every single new poster nor care to know their gamercard or PSN id obsessively like you..:lol: Still mad because i prove your sorry ass wrong about not having a 360,but but is your friend 360 but but your gamercard..:lol:

You didn't answer my question, eltormo.

And you're not denying that you're an idiot fakeboy?  Cool, glad we're on the same page.

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#312 tormentos
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Does not find it funny that we barely know anything about the ps4 which has been revealed but we know everything about the nexbox which hasn't... ok we know the bw of the ram but we don't know how much of that bw the cpu uses or the input devices uses(IE the new camera) u guys talk the bw like crazy yet there so much we DON'T know. just just how much mem will the cpu and cam use but how much of the bw do they eat up there no way the gpu will ever see the 176g/s max becuase it will alway be sharing the bus. just as we know the xbox will never see the max 170g/s. what we know with the xbox is it has a dedicated 102g/s bw from the esram and 38g/s to the main ram but a shared 30g/s thru the north brigde (shared with the cpu, camera, usb, and hdd) as seem here... http://www.vgleaks.com/durango-memory-system-overview/#comments...

i'm not saying the xbox will be stronger truth is i don't care i'm just saying no one on here have a clue of the total real spec of both system cause the offical full spec on the ps4 still isn't out yet we still going on off rumors which is fine it just when it gets to the point someone is calling someone else dumb for making a point but with no fact when the one calling him dumb has no facts himself is a bit crazy... the leaks for the xbox could be true but they also could be wrong hell there is rumors MS is making two xboxes this could be the weaker one who knows for sure i would like to see more explaining of pov. like i would like to hear about the latency vs bw cause MS went low latency over higher bw. also how will compression down to l1 while saving bw might hurt them else where. so of u guys on here use to be great at explaining these thing but lately all i read is about gddr5 and that not exciting at all..

mane_basic
The leaks had be virtually spot on.. We also knew about the PS4 before it was reveal,the only changes were 8GB of memory and CU been unified,sort of like gpgpu. The xbox 720 make incredible sense when you put them together. 7770 GPU that alone explain why MS chose DDR3 and not GDDR5,alto GDDR5 is used very well for some years now,still is more expensive that DDR3. The 7770 GPU has a bandwidth of 72GB/s,for MS it probably did not make sense to use GDDR5 72GB/s or more because the 7770 would not be able to take full advantage of it,so they chose DDR3 and put in place several things to help if bandwidth problems should occur. DDR3 also has higher latency than DDR2 that did not stop PC from moving forward.
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#313 tormentos
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 You didn't answer my question, eltormo.

And you're not denying that you're an idiot fakeboy?  Cool, glad we're on the same page.

clone01

 

 

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But but your friend 360..

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#314 clone01
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But but your friend 360..tormentos
You haven't answered my question, eltormo. And you're still not denying that you're an idiot fakeboy, I see. Glad we could agree.
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#315 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="clone01"]

 You didn't answer my question, eltormo.

And you're not denying that you're an idiot fakeboy?  Cool, glad we're on the same page.

tormentos

 

 

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But but your friend 360..

:lol:

X-Files, I think? :P

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#316 Speedzilla
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[QUOTE="clone01"]

 You didn't answer my question, eltormo.

And you're not denying that you're an idiot fakeboy?  Cool, glad we're on the same page.

tormentos

 

 

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But but your friend 360..

:lol: :lol:

Never gets old.

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#317 clone01
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[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="clone01"]

 You didn't answer my question, eltormo.

And you're not denying that you're an idiot fakeboy?  Cool, glad we're on the same page.

Speedzilla

 

 

wuf134.jpg

 

But but your friend 360..

:lol: :lol:

Never gets old.

Why isn't eltormo answering my question?
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#318 clone01
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[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="clone01"]

 You didn't answer my question, eltormo.

And you're not denying that you're an idiot fakeboy?  Cool, glad we're on the same page.

SolidTy

 

 

wuf134.jpg

 

But but your friend 360..

:lol:

X-Files, I think? :P

Notice eltormo won't answer my question, and resorts to posting pics when he gets called out.
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#319 nextgenjoke
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pc gaming is the only true gaming legend and bows before no casuals.

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#327 trollhunter2
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They can't beat 8GB GDDR5 no matter what, so it doesn't matter.

ImBatman-

if they do, that would cause a delay for MS which isnt good at all

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#329 nextgenjoke
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Wii Sports

The game was first released in North America along with the Wii on November 19, 2006, and was released in Japan, Australia, and Europe the following month. It was included as a pack-in game with the Wii console in all territories except Japan

 

LOL it came with the system proof casuals dont buy games.

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#330 nextgenjoke
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Untill a casual game sells sells 80 million as a game sold seperately i dont think you should care about trying to capturing that market.

 

Because there is no market.

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#331 nextgenjoke
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 80 million casuals bought wii they bought it because it came with wii sports pretty much after they get bored with wii sports the console just sits there as a decoration in their house and they dont buy games lol.

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#332 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="ImBatman-"]

They can't beat 8GB GDDR5 no matter what, so it doesn't matter.

trollhunter2

if they do, that would cause a delay for MS which isnt good at all

Why the delay?

The shared GDDR5 and DDR4 SODIMM for the PC was in the pipeline during 2012

GDDR5_M_SODIMM.jpg

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#333 Shielder7
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Do you think MS (assuming the rumors were true like the PS 4) could change their  Architecture to beef up their system to match or far pass the PS 4?  It's no secreat that MS has a bigger bank roll than Sony and Nintendo and could beat them in pricing, but the utter silence from MS after the PS 4 revile makes me wonder if they're tweaking the Next Box  a bit or do you think it would be too late?

 

And before anyone says anything I'm no Lem, I'm probably going PS 4 unless Sony does something really stupid like charge for online.

FoxbatAlpha
Uhh they are charging for online for the PS4. Just you wait.

I don't think they will be that stupid, I can see them adding features to PSN + but as for charging like MS does for live I don't see it happening.