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Sony's new PlayStation Network premium subscription service PlayStation Plus has had no effect on the continued evolution of rival online service Xbox Live, Microsoft has insisted.

Jerry Johnson, general manager of Xbox Live Studios, told Eurogamer at the Edinburgh Interactive Festival this afternoon that PlayStation Plus "hasn't changed" Microsoft's £40-a-year online gaming service.

"We're continuing to look forward at how we innovate and smartly invest our resources and our focus related to Live. We're definitely not backing off of it.

"When you look at what we're continuing to put at the forefront as we talk about transforming experiences, it's Kinect and it's Live."

PlayStation Plus, launched in June with a £40-a-year price tag, provides paying customers with early access to games, demos and exclusive content.

Johnson said Microsoft's plans for Xbox Live are closely tied to the November launch of motion sensing add-on Kinect.

A new Xbox 360 software update, scheduled for release around the same time as the £130 sensor, will make changes to the user interface and incorporate voice recognition control.

"There will be a software update, a system update and a UI update to release things like the Kinect hub, the ability to navigate with both gesture and voice, the ability to be in party mode and be able to talk to your TV without having to wear a headset, these are all things that will be part of this release."

Johnson described Kinect's voice recognition feature as "extremely powerful".

"We might think it's cool to wear that headset, like we're on the bridge of the Starship Enterprise or something. My wife, she'll be like, do not ever wear that when we have company.

"This whole idea of being able to talk to your TV we think is going to be an extremely powerful thing."

Johnson is set to deliver a presentation at the Edinburgh Interactive Festival tomorrow entitled "Xbox Live – Transforming Entertainment".

In it he will reveal "aha moments" Microsoft experienced throughout the evolution of the ground breaking online console gaming service.

Speaking to Eurogamer, Johnson said the current £40 Xbox Live Gold member subscription fee has allowed Microsoft to invest in and improve the service.

"I've enjoyed the ability to continue to invest in what we're doing," Johnson replied when asked whether charging for Xbox Live was a bold move.

"You have to find ways to monetise any type of business, and it's either going to come from advertising transactions or subscriptions in our world.

"What we've seen is people value what we've done with Live. The business model, the commercial model that was set up around this was based on subscriptions.

"We have a responsibility to continue to innovate on it. Part of that comes from what we owe to the consumer. Part of it comes down to the passion and the people I work with on a daily basis want to continue to innovate on this as well.

"We continue to innovate because we can and we know the consumer wants it."

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Very true. PSN is always a step behind XBL. If anything it's Xbox live that changed Sony.

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#2 Pug-Nasty
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Ah, their innovations to Live are focused on Kinect. Have fun with that, lol.

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In other news, MS will continue NOT announce any new exclusive titles despite fierce competition.
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#4 Sh4nk3r
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In other news, MS will continue NOT announce any new exclusive titles despite fierce competition.mystervj
Sad but true. :(
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#5 WilliamRLBaker
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I would hope so, the PSN+ launch and so far evolution has been lame and piss poor.

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#6 dercoo
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In other news, MS will continue NOT announce any new exclusive titles despite fierce competition.mystervj

But what about Kinect and its games.

Its da future!!!

;)

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[QUOTE="mystervj"]In other news, MS will continue NOT announce any new exclusive titles despite fierce competition.dercoo

But what about Kinect and its games.

Its da future!!!

;)

its the future of gameings death
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[QUOTE="mystervj"]In other news, MS will continue NOT announce any new exclusive titles despite fierce competition.dercoo

But what about Kinect and its games.

Its da future!!!

;)

o no, the future :(
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#10 shutdown_202
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I hope PSN+ stays as it is, discounts and other useless crap. Once it starts getting features is when i start to worry (as a standard user).

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#11 Gamtrix
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I would hope so, the PSN+ launch and so far evolution has been lame and piss poor.

WilliamRLBaker
1 month of PS+ has brought more value then 5 years of Xbox Live Gold.
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#12 Sh4nk3r
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

I would hope so, the PSN+ launch and so far evolution has been lame and piss poor.

Gamtrix
1 month of PS+ has brought more value then 5 years of Xbox Live Gold.

LOL... I bet you you're not even paying for it.
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I hope PSN+ stays as it is, discounts and other useless crap. Once it starts getting features is when i start to worry (as a standard user).

shutdown_202
Sony has already said that Cross Game Chat will be for PSN+ users only and if they ever get around to a Party System you can bet it'll be the same.
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System wars really needs to raise the level limit for stopping low level users of making threds. :?

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#15 LegatoSkyheart
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why should it Microsoft? You're forcing people to pay to play their Games online.

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#16 emorainbo
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Well if MS doesnt care... Then why did they release this statement??? dur hur dur hur :P

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[QUOTE="dercoo"]

[QUOTE="mystervj"]In other news, MS will continue NOT announce any new exclusive titles despite fierce competition.jsh020

But what about Kinect and its games.

Its da future!!!

;)

its the future of gameings death

Shockingly everyone said the same thing about Kinect
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I love being able toi go into the store and be given discounts. However what I love the most is being able to pay games I would have never other wise tried. (critter crunch, age of zombies, wipeout)

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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

I would hope so, the PSN+ launch and so far evolution has been lame and piss poor.

Gamtrix
1 month of PS+ has brought more value then 5 years of Xbox Live Gold.

Then your idea of Value if very different from the rest of us
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[QUOTE="Gamtrix"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

I would hope so, the PSN+ launch and so far evolution has been lame and piss poor.

KaoSXFACTOR

1 month of PS+ has brought more value then 5 years of Xbox Live Gold.

Love how you lie to make yourself feel better.

Who are you to tell him how he feels.
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[QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

why should it Microsoft? You're forcing people to pay to play their Games online.

And Sony forced people to use a garbage service.

Yeah, actually buy a PS3 and use the service before talking. Unless you have one and a PSN ID?
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

I would hope so, the PSN+ launch and so far evolution has been lame and piss poor.

Gamtrix

1 month of PS+ has brought more value then 5 years of Xbox Live Gold.

This is why I can't take you seriously. You just outright lie to everyone as well as yourself.

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[QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

why should it Microsoft? You're forcing people to pay to play their Games online.

FlamesOfGrey

And Sony forced people to use a garbage service.

Yeah, actually buy a PS3 and use the service before talking. Unless you have one and a PSN ID?

Funny thing is I do have a PSN id. And no. I will not give it out again to prove anything like I've done before. All I ended up getting was spam messages from a bunch of sensitive PS3 fanboys from SW's.

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#27 Gamtrix
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[QUOTE="Gamtrix"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

I would hope so, the PSN+ launch and so far evolution has been lame and piss poor.

93soccer
1 month of PS+ has brought more value then 5 years of Xbox Live Gold.

Then your idea of Value if very different from the rest of us

You pay money you get something. For PS+. Xbox Live you pay for something that's already yours. Universal logic me thinks.
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

And Sony forced people to use a garbage service.

KaoSXFACTOR

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

why should it Microsoft? You're forcing people to pay to play their Games online.

KaoSXFACTOR

And Sony forced people to use a garbage service.

Like microsoft has people pay 50 bux a year to get the full game :lol:
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

why should it Microsoft? You're forcing people to pay to play their Games online.

KaoSXFACTOR

And Sony forced people to use a garbage service.

Forced? lol Sony aint forcing anybody with PSN+ To play online on XBL on the other hand...
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#30 FIipMode
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[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

And Sony forced people to use a garbage service.

KaoSXFACTOR

Yeah, actually buy a PS3 and use the service before talking. Unless you have one and a PSN ID?

Funny thing is I do have a PSN id. And no. I will not give it out again to prove anything like I've done before. All I ended up getting was spam messages from a bunch of sensitive PS3 fanboys from SW's.

Then PM him your iD if you really have one.

OT: I didn't expect PS+ to change MS.

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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

I would hope so, the PSN+ launch and so far evolution has been lame and piss poor.

Gamtrix

1 month of PS+ has brought more value then 5 years of Xbox Live Gold.

  1. I seriously doubt you have xbox 360
  2. Nice lie!
  3. Your posting history doesnt help
  4. On-topic: I dont care. Can MS bring some decent new IPs for once? All those timed exclusive deals (GTA IV DLC) could of funded a new IP...
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PSN+ is actually a service, you get discounts, freebies and other features.

XBL is making you pay to play the "online" mode of the game you already bought.

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#33 KaoSXFACTOR
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[QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

why should it Microsoft? You're forcing people to pay to play their Games online.

def_mode

And Sony forced people to use a garbage service.

Forced? lol Sony aint forcing anybody with PSN+ To play online on XBL on the other hand...

Oh boo hoo! $50 a year! If Sony did the same thing when the PS3 launched you wouldn't have said anything. If PSN+ required it as well guess what you would have said.....

"Well MS does it, so it's fine!"

I actually LMAO at cows who complain about Live's$50 a year GAMING SERVICE that offers more than PSN+ which is what really? Core? HAHAHA!

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#34 FlamesOfGrey
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[QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

And Sony forced people to use a garbage service.

Yeah, actually buy a PS3 and use the service before talking. Unless you have one and a PSN ID?

Funny thing is I do have a PSN id. And no. I will not give it out again to prove anything like I've done before. All I ended up getting was spam messages from a bunch of sensitive PS3 fanboys from SW's.

Sure you did. Well maybe you should tone down the fanboyism and you wouldn't get spammed. I don't believe you anyway considering how much PS3 bashing you do, I doubt you would waste your money on a system with a "garbage service"..
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#35 DroidPhysX
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PSN+ is actually a service, you get discounts, freebies and other features.

XBL is making you pay to play the "online" mode of the game you already bought.

def_mode

Its FlipMode's evil twin!:P

On-topic: You know you get more than the "online mode" with XBL...

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#36 Gamtrix
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PSN+ is actually a service, you get discounts, freebies and other features.

XBL is making you pay to play the "online" mode of the game you already bought.

def_mode
Exactly. The first month gave users like 80 something dollars worth of goods, 11 months left, Xbox Live RETURNS you online play. This is universal, PS+ brings you more value for your money. You just NEED Live because theres no other way to play online.
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#37 KaoSXFACTOR
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PSN+ is actually a service, you get discounts, freebies and other features.

XBL is making you pay to play the "online" mode of the game you already bought.

def_mode

Yeah Live never offers any kind of discounts...... Whether its for its yearly service or its games, you pay full price for everything you do. :roll:

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#38 EdenProxy
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.......psn = xbl

cost 0 50

All PS plus does is push PSN over.

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#39 KaoSXFACTOR
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[QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"] Yeah, actually buy a PS3 and use the service before talking. Unless you have one and a PSN ID?FlamesOfGrey

Funny thing is I do have a PSN id. And no. I will not give it out again to prove anything like I've done before. All I ended up getting was spam messages from a bunch of sensitive PS3 fanboys from SW's.

Sure you did. Well maybe you should tone down the fanboyism and you wouldn't get spammed. I don't believe you anyway considering how much PS3 bashing you do, I doubt you would waste your money on a system with a "garbage service"..

Bought it at launch actually, and didn't know what I was getting into. Nice try though.

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#40 EdenProxy
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[QUOTE="def_mode"]

PSN+ is actually a service, you get discounts, freebies and other features.

XBL is making you pay to play the "online" mode of the game you already bought.

KaoSXFACTOR

Yeah Live never offers any kind of discounts...... Whether its for its yearly service or its games, you pay full price for everything you do. :roll:

The regular psn also has discounts however both cant compare to PS plus Discounts
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[QUOTE="def_mode"]

PSN+ is actually a service, you get discounts, freebies and other features.

XBL is making you pay to play the "online" mode of the game you already bought.

Gamtrix

Exactly. The first month gave users like 80 something dollars worth of goods, 11 months left, Xbox Live RETURNS you online play. This is universal, PS+ brings you more value for your money. You just NEED Live because theres no other way to play online.

Cool. I got all the Fallout DLC and the Borderlands DLC for half off on XBL..thats a savings of like ~$40? There, I just made up a years worth of Live with that savings...Essentially I got a year of Live for free...but wait. I only use XBL to play games online....sorry...

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[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

Funny thing is I do have a PSN id. And no. I will not give it out again to prove anything like I've done before. All I ended up getting was spam messages from a bunch of sensitive PS3 fanboys from SW's.

KaoSXFACTOR

Sure you did. Well maybe you should tone down the fanboyism and you wouldn't get spammed. I don't believe you anyway considering how much PS3 bashing you do, I doubt you would waste your money on a system with a "garbage service"..

Bought it at launch actually, and didn't know what I was getting into. Nice try though.

Thing is no one will believe a thing you say without an iD or picture, its really just meaningless words.

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#43 omho88
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Sony needs to work more on PSN+, may be one year from now, MS will draw this statment by cutting the live price.

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[QUOTE="def_mode"]

PSN+ is actually a service, you get discounts, freebies and other features.

XBL is making you pay to play the "online" mode of the game you already bought.

KaoSXFACTOR

Yeah Live never offers any kind of discounts...... Whether its for its yearly service or its games, you pay full price for everything you do. :roll:

You have no argument for buying a game for $60 with the online locked unless you pony up $50 a year to Microsoft because there isn't one. PS3 plays those same games online for free for just the $60 you pay for the game like every other platform except the 360.

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#45 DroidPhysX
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Sony needs to work more on PSN+, may be one year from now, MS will draw this statment by cutting the live price.

omho88

Thats as likely as Kojima porting MGS4 to the 360....MS might do the opposite and raise the price...

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#47 FlamesOfGrey
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[QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

Funny thing is I do have a PSN id. And no. I will not give it out again to prove anything like I've done before. All I ended up getting was spam messages from a bunch of sensitive PS3 fanboys from SW's.

Sure you did. Well maybe you should tone down the fanboyism and you wouldn't get spammed. I don't believe you anyway considering how much PS3 bashing you do, I doubt you would waste your money on a system with a "garbage service"..

Bought it at launch actually, and didn't know what I was getting into. Nice try though.

Until you give up that ID my try went just fine. I have nothing to hide my ID's are right in the sig. heh.
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#49 DroidPhysX
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"] Exactly. The first month gave users like 80 something dollars worth of goods, 11 months left, Xbox Live RETURNS you online play. This is universal, PS+ brings you more value for your money. You just NEED Live because theres no other way to play online. Gamtrix

Cool. I got all the Fallout DLC and the Borderlands DLC for half off on XBL..thats a savings of like ~$40? There, I just made up a years worth of Live with that savings...Essentially I got a year of Live for free...but wait. I only use XBL to play games online....sorry...

LOL Discounts don't count, normal free PSN has discounts, PS+ has extended discounts. I'm talking about actuall games, Arcade titles, PS1 titles, minis, even PS3 games. Plus DLC, themes and other content. Nice damage control.

Damage control? Dude, Im not the one praising the PS3 in almost every post, while defending (or should I say damage controlling) it at the same time, also your sig is laughable, i seriouslu doubt you own a 360.How are these discounts when you're paying for them? $50 =/= free discounts, minis, DLC, themes, and other content...Im not going to continue this conversation...I have my opinion and you have yours....

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#50 KaoSXFACTOR
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[QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

[QUOTE="def_mode"]

PSN+ is actually a service, you get discounts, freebies and other features.

XBL is making you pay to play the "online" mode of the game you already bought.

FlamesOfGrey

Yeah Live never offers any kind of discounts...... Whether its for its yearly service or its games, you pay full price for everything you do. :roll:

You have no argument for buying a game for $60 with the online locked unless you pony up $50 a year to Microsoft because there isn't one. PS3 plays those same games online for free for just the $60 you pay for the game like every other platform except the 360.

You really have no argument paying $50 a year for PSN+ which right now is CORE