MS "reintroducing" The X1 at a press event.

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#101 Jack-Burton
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Will still have the same shitty name.
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#102 AD216
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I doubt it'll be a price drop. The Kinect is probably the extra $100 so unless they make two bundles (one with Kinect for $500, one without Kinect for $400), they'd be taking a hit of $100 for each console sold (if they drop the price $100 but keep the Kinect). If they do drop Kinect though some one bundle, they'll lose a selling point. That's my guess.

They're probably going to reaffirm that they're not bringing back the DRM features/restrictions, they'll detail family sharing and explain how they'd like to incorporate this feature in the future, etc.

Only 3 more weeks until Gamescom. :D

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xbl profits with dwarf the hit they'd take. i honestly believe a price drop is coming
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#103 deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
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Lol so they acknowledged that it needs reintroducing.    Things must be pretty bad on the preorder front.

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#104 ManatuBeard
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Aside from 1st party, who will bother with Kinect??

I dont see the big 3rd party titles having extensive Kinect use.

Most of them will have NO use at all. I cant imagine Final Fantasy XV, Metal Gear Solid V, Battlefield 4, CoD Ghosts, etc even using Kinect at all, except to scroll menus with gestures, mainly because it supported by OS but its something that is not even using it for gaming.

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#105 ManatuBeard
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Lol so they acknowledged that it needs reintroducing.    Things must be pretty bad on the preorder front.

Crossel777

It needs to be redesigned!

No eSRAM, better GPU/CPU, no mandatory kinect.

Let Sony get this gen and start planning the next...

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#106 Sagemode87
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[QUOTE="DrRockso87"]

I doubt it'll be a price drop. The Kinect is probably the extra $100 so unless they make two bundles (one with Kinect for $500, one without Kinect for $400), they'd be taking a hit of $100 for each console sold (if they drop the price $100 but keep the Kinect). If they do drop Kinect though some one bundle, they'll lose a selling point. That's my guess.

They're probably going to reaffirm that they're not bringing back the DRM features/restrictions, they'll detail family sharing and explain how they'd like to incorporate this feature in the future, etc.

Only 3 more weeks until Gamescom. :D

AD216

xbl profits with dwarf the hit they'd take. i honestly believe a price drop is coming

Sorry, you're gonna be disappointed. Their preorders are selling out, why would they drop it when they haven't seen how sells will go yet. It's hilarious how Lems like you think the only reason PS4 is favored is the price. PS3 outsold or tied 360 while being at its worst in brand appeal and being more expensive. Xbox is just too western to have international appeal. It will never be a first place console. Sorry. 

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I figured out how MS can win: Step 1: Drop Price to $400 Step 2: Drop Kinect, make price $299 Step 3: Pack in Titanfall with every system. Step 4: Buy Naughty Dog from SCE Step 5: Kidnap Miyamoto, Decapitate Reggie Step 6: Announce Halo 7, developed by 343, Bungie, Naughty Dog, and Miyamoto Step 7: Buy Valve Step 8: Release Half Life 3 Step 9: Put Heisenberg in charge of Microsoft Step 10: Cure Cancer Step 11: Bring Peace to Middle East Step 12: Colonize Mars Step 13: Profit!!!
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#108 Zaibach
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"Guys the Xbone was a total dud... We need to copy everything from the PS4. That'll get everyone on our side!" I don't think it works that way ;)istuffedsunny

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#109 Ribnarak
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MS screwd up plain and simple. 

In this Press Event i hope i see ACTUAL usage of the "cloud" and how it can be implemented to increase graphics , etc or what ever it does. Lems have been hyping the cloud and I still haven't figured out why.

Are there any lems who could post videos showing us why the cloud is so amazing (in actual usage and not just text). If there are no videos, I don't believe any of this "cloud" optimism is worth it.

MS should show how and why their worse GPU and RAM are gonna be compensated by "X" features or the "cloud".

They really need to prove that Kinect is a real thing and not just B-S like kinect 1.0. I wanna see actual GAMEPLAY usage of Kinect 2.0 in action which isn't just geared towards dancing, and little party games.

 

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#111 always_explicit
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I think its actually going to work in the favour of MS

The media have jumped on the bandwagon massively with the negativity towards the X1, its reached almost every major news outlet and their is no doubt some magazines and websites have sensationalised the bungled X1 reveal to sell more copies and get more hits.

Now the media have perfect ammunition to create further sensationalist headlines if MS get this "reintroduction" right.

Cue    " RETURN OF THE XBOX HEADLINES"

 

Im not batting for against the X1 in this post btw but from a marketing standpoint a total reintroduction is a smart move if they get it right.

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Are they gonna rename it Playstation 3.5? :lol:

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[QUOTE="Handytips"]

 

Microsoft will reintroduce the Xbox One in a live press event that is intended as a fresh start in their relationship with the media and consumers. They will directly address the concerns about the Xbox One and start generating positive momentum in time for the November launch.

 

According to an inside source after the E3 conference there was a massive and frantic internal review of every aspect of the Xbox One compared to Sonys direction with PlayStation.

The 24 hour check-in and disc-DRM policy was reversed to prevent the negative press becoming so widespread that it damaged the Xbox brand. Every other criticism has also been examined to see if it can be improved. Multiple changes have been made and Microsoft feel confident in a product they know the public will respond well to.

There have been discussions about creating price parity between Xbox One and PlayStation 4 by reducing the Xbox One price to $399/399. Conversation has centred on bigger losses per unit sold versus loss of sales traction.

Microsoft will make public their plans for Gamescom later this week. Its expected they will be hosting a press event presented by Phil Spencer, the vice president of Microsoft Game Studios and Phil Harrison, the corporate vice president of Interactive Entertainment.

 

clyde46

 

http://www.handytips.info/1372/microsoft-will-reintroduce-the-xbox-one-at-press-event/

 

 

Excellent! :D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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It's amazing how bad the X1 sucks. I'm still shocked by the fact that MS let sony beat them in specs :|
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[QUOTE="TheDidact"]I figured out how MS can win: Step 1: Drop Price to $400 Step 2: Drop Kinect, make price $299 Step 3: Pack in Titanfall with every system. Step 4: Buy Naughty Dog from SCE Step 5: Kidnap Miyamoto, Decapitate Reggie Step 6: Announce Halo 7, developed by 343, Bungie, Naughty Dog, and Miyamoto Step 7: Buy Valve Step 8: Release Half Life 3 Step 9: Put Heisenberg in charge of Microsoft Step 10: Cure Cancer Step 11: Bring Peace to Middle East Step 12: Colonize Mars Step 13: Profit!!!

You should've been the one to replace Mattrick.
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#116 Chutebox
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Gotta give them credit for making the effort, unlike Sony who just sat on the PS3 trainwreck at launch and did nothing RR360DD
What could have Sony done?
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#117 HaRmLeSS_RaGe
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Are they gonna rename it Playstation 3.5? :lol:

NathanDrakeSwag

 

They already have a product for that, it's called the Xbox 360 :cool:

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[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

Are they gonna rename it Playstation 3.5? :lol:

HaRmLeSS_RaGe

 

They already have a product for that, it's called the Xbox 360 :cool:

By the time M$ is done doing 180's they are gonna be left with a 50% weaker PS4 :lol:

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I don't give a care, Ballmer.

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#120 RR360DD
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Damn theres been like 10 posts in this thread alone by shew

:lol:

cow meltdown confirmed

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You know you fvcked up bad when you have to reintroduce your console after a release event and E3. :lol: :
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#122 always_explicit
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It's amazing how bad the X1 sucks. I'm still shocked by the fact that MS let sony beat them in specs :|Kaszilla
Erm the wii wants to have a chat with you about specifications and winning console wars
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guys we present to you the microsoft xbox 180! because they caught us with our pants down when ps4 was presented.

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The Playstation 360 is pretty awesome, I wish it had good games though.
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#124 ShoTTyMcNaDeS
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Umm, XBOX ONE goes to $399 and its GAME OVER for the PS4! While the PS4 may well be technically superior as far as games go, I'm betting it will be atleast two years before that advantage becomes readily apparent and that will only be on first party games for the most part. MS is making sure that Kinect is an integral part of all games, not just the "Wii-esque" party games. Developers will force PS4 owners to buy the PSEye in order to fully enjoy a lot of games. Also, MS billions of dollars invested in Cloud processing/gaming will pay off in a big way. The bottom line here is that Sony better hope MS doesn't match their $399 price point with the Kinect packed in and with huge games like Titanfall, Quantum Break and Halo all coming in 2014! Bring on davekeeh and nathandrakeswag!!! They are both going to need a bunch oh tissue and Preperation H.
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Price drop coming? I got a itchy trigga finga!
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#126 AD216
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Price drop coming? I got a itchy trigga finga!FoxbatAlpha
right. now i let sw talk me into believing a price drop is coming and shit. i'll be mad af if it turns out to be something stupid :lol:
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Umm, XBOX ONE goes to $399 and its GAME OVER for the PS4! While the PS4 may well be technically superior as far as games go, I'm betting it will be atleast two years before that advantage becomes readily apparent and that will only be on first party games for the most part. MS is making sure that Kinect is an integral part of all games, not just the "Wii-esque" party games. Developers will force PS4 owners to buy the PSEye in order to fully enjoy a lot of games. Also, MS billions of dollars invested in Cloud processing/gaming will pay off in a big way. The bottom line here is that Sony better hope MS doesn't match their $399 price point with the Kinect packed in and with huge games like Titanfall, Quantum Break and Halo all coming in 2014! Bring on davekeeh and nathandrakeswag!!! They are both going to need a bunch oh tissue and Preperation H.ShoTTyMcNaDeS

Please tell me how MS is making the Kinect essential for Battlefield 4, Watch Dogs, Assassins Creed 4, Final Fantasy XV, COD GHOSTS, Kingdom Hearts 3, The Division and Metal Gear Solid V. Because these are the main games people want to buy.

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[QUOTE="Heil68"]You know you fvcked up bad when you have to reintroduce your console after a release event and E3. :lol: :

:lol: So sad and true.
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expecting lots of meltdowns and butthurts after this :cool:Tessellation
Sorry, but meltdown and butthurt is EXACTLY what happened and spread through the MS corporation that inspired them to even conjure this idea.

 

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Umm, XBOX ONE goes to $399 and its GAME OVER for the PS4! While the PS4 may well be technically superior as far as games go, I'm betting it will be atleast two years before that advantage becomes readily apparent and that will only be on first party games for the most part. MS is making sure that Kinect is an integral part of all games, not just the "Wii-esque" party games. Developers will force PS4 owners to buy the PSEye in order to fully enjoy a lot of games. Also, MS billions of dollars invested in Cloud processing/gaming will pay off in a big way. The bottom line here is that Sony better hope MS doesn't match their $399 price point with the Kinect packed in and with huge games like Titanfall, Quantum Break and Halo all coming in 2014!

Bring on davekeeh and nathandrakeswag!!! They are both going to need a bunch oh tissue and Preperation H.ShoTTyMcNaDeS

LMAO, can't tell if serious. 

Also, the original Xbox has barely beat Gamecube for 2nd place, & the Xbox 360 was in 2nd place for most of this generation & then slipped to 3rd place these past few months. What makes you sure that the Xbox One would easily mop the floor with PS4, especially with both Europe & Japan going for PS4?

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I really hope they don't ditch Kinect. It would make the XOne almost as boring as the PS4
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I really hope they don't ditch Kinect. It would make the XOne almost as boring as the PS4RR360DD
i wouldnt get it at all if they dropped kinect
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You know you fvcked up bad when you have to reintroduce your console after a release event and E3. :lol: :Heil68

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$399 you say?

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MS innovating by trying to redo the first impression.
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[QUOTE="ShoTTyMcNaDeS"]Umm, XBOX ONE goes to $399 and its GAME OVER for the PS4! While the PS4 may well be technically superior as far as games go, I'm betting it will be atleast two years before that advantage becomes readily apparent and that will only be on first party games for the most part. MS is making sure that Kinect is an integral part of all games, not just the "Wii-esque" party games. Developers will force PS4 owners to buy the PSEye in order to fully enjoy a lot of games. Also, MS billions of dollars invested in Cloud processing/gaming will pay off in a big way. The bottom line here is that Sony better hope MS doesn't match their $399 price point with the Kinect packed in and with huge games like Titanfall, Quantum Break and Halo all coming in 2014!

Bring on davekeeh and nathandrakeswag!!! They are both going to need a bunch oh tissue and Preperation H.Shinobi120

LMAO, can't tell if serious.

The original Xbox has barely beat Gamecube for 2nd place, & the Xbox 360 was in 2nd place for most of this generation & then slipped to 3rd place these past few months. What makes you sure that the Xbox One would easily mop the floor with PS4, especially with both Europe & Japan going for PS4?

If the consoles are matched price point for price point, then it simply comes down to games and system capabilities beyond the games. The Cloud is bigger than you all want to admit and because Kinect is an integral part of the XBOX ONE, devs will be making games that put it to full use thus forcing PS4 owners to buy the PSEye to experience the games the way they are meant to!
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[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

guys we present to you the microsoft xbox 180! because they caught us with our pants down when ps4 was presented.

mems_1224

The Playstation 360 is pretty awesome, I wish it had good games though.

 

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[QUOTE="Shinobi120"]

[QUOTE="ShoTTyMcNaDeS"]Umm, XBOX ONE goes to $399 and its GAME OVER for the PS4! While the PS4 may well be technically superior as far as games go, I'm betting it will be atleast two years before that advantage becomes readily apparent and that will only be on first party games for the most part. MS is making sure that Kinect is an integral part of all games, not just the "Wii-esque" party games. Developers will force PS4 owners to buy the PSEye in order to fully enjoy a lot of games. Also, MS billions of dollars invested in Cloud processing/gaming will pay off in a big way. The bottom line here is that Sony better hope MS doesn't match their $399 price point with the Kinect packed in and with huge games like Titanfall, Quantum Break and Halo all coming in 2014!

Bring on davekeeh and nathandrakeswag!!! They are both going to need a bunch oh tissue and Preperation H.ShoTTyMcNaDeS

LMAO, can't tell if serious.

The original Xbox has barely beat Gamecube for 2nd place, & the Xbox 360 was in 2nd place for most of this generation & then slipped to 3rd place these past few months. What makes you sure that the Xbox One would easily mop the floor with PS4, especially with both Europe & Japan going for PS4?

If the consoles are matched price point for price point, then it simply comes down to games and system capabilities beyond the games. The Cloud is bigger than you all want to admit and because Kinect is an integral part of the XBOX ONE, devs will be making games that put it to full use thus forcing PS4 owners to buy the PSEye to experience the games the way they are meant to!

Again, please tell me how MS is making the Kinect essential for Battlefield 4, Watch Dogs, Assassins Creed 4, Final Fantasy XV, COD GHOSTS, Kingdom Hearts 3, The Division and Metal Gear Solid V. Because these are the main games people want to buy.

Having a console without mandatory camera is the only excuse devs need to NOT make camera features for both consoles, something that would just cost them more money and time.

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#139 Heil68
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Drop Kinect(lol) and I would maybe buy one at launch. Price is irrelevant.
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]I really hope they don't ditch Kinect. It would make the XOne almost as boring as the PS4AD216
i wouldnt get it at all if they dropped kinect

I almost thought that, but then I remembered about the Xbox's superior online and controller. Can't give them up :cool:
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#141 Shinobi120
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[QUOTE="Shinobi120"]

[QUOTE="ShoTTyMcNaDeS"]Umm, XBOX ONE goes to $399 and its GAME OVER for the PS4! While the PS4 may well be technically superior as far as games go, I'm betting it will be atleast two years before that advantage becomes readily apparent and that will only be on first party games for the most part. MS is making sure that Kinect is an integral part of all games, not just the "Wii-esque" party games. Developers will force PS4 owners to buy the PSEye in order to fully enjoy a lot of games. Also, MS billions of dollars invested in Cloud processing/gaming will pay off in a big way. The bottom line here is that Sony better hope MS doesn't match their $399 price point with the Kinect packed in and with huge games like Titanfall, Quantum Break and Halo all coming in 2014!

Bring on davekeeh and nathandrakeswag!!! They are both going to need a bunch oh tissue and Preperation H.ShoTTyMcNaDeS

LMAO, can't tell if serious.

The original Xbox has barely beat Gamecube for 2nd place, & the Xbox 360 was in 2nd place for most of this generation & then slipped to 3rd place these past few months. What makes you sure that the Xbox One would easily mop the floor with PS4, especially with both Europe & Japan going for PS4?

If the consoles are matched price point for price point, then it simply comes down to games and system capabilities beyond the games. The Cloud is bigger than you all want to admit and because Kinect is an integral part of the XBOX ONE, devs will be making games that put it to full use thus forcing PS4 owners to buy the PSEye to experience the games the way they are meant to!

You blind or something? Kinect is a fad just like the Wii was. Most casual consumers/non-gamers aren't going to drop $500 on a console just for Kinect 2. Heck, most of the games on Kinect flopped in sales for Xbox 360, & 3rd party publishers/developers aren't going to waste their time & more money implementing many PS Eye & Kinect features on their games for either Xbox One or PS4. 

Also, CoD has beaten Halo in popularity, & having cloud certainly doesn't make games look better. 

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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]I really hope they don't ditch Kinect. It would make the XOne almost as boring as the PS4AD216
i wouldnt get it at all if they dropped kinect

You lazy fatasses do need kinect so power to you :)
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[QUOTE="Heil68"]You know you fvcked up bad when you have to reintroduce your console after a release event and E3. :lol: :

so true. LOL look at this lems crying.
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#144 AD216
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[QUOTE="AD216"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]I really hope they don't ditch Kinect. It would make the XOne almost as boring as the PS4RR360DD
i wouldnt get it at all if they dropped kinect

I almost thought that, but then I remembered about the Xbox's superior online and controller. Can't give them up :cool:

the online is definitely years ahead of psn but from what i've seen, they made the ps4 controller bigger. it's not for lil kids anymore. although until i hold it, i will give the x1's the advantage.
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#145 SambaLele
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It's probably new price ($400) and more RAM.

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#146 bodde1972
Member since 2013 • 117 Posts

WTF...Reintroduce ? They just introduced the damn thing in may.....

 

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#147 AD216
Member since 2008 • 1719 Posts
[QUOTE="AD216"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]I really hope they don't ditch Kinect. It would make the XOne almost as boring as the PS4BlessedChill
i wouldnt get it at all if they dropped kinect

You lazy fatasses do need kinect so power to you :)

lazy and fat? lmao bruh u better go check my ig, fb, twitter or anything else.
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#148 Kaz_Son
Member since 2013 • 1389 Posts
It must be really hard being a Lemming right now. It's so hard defending M$ when they keep owning themselves every time like this.
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#149 ManatuBeard
Member since 2012 • 1121 Posts

It's probably new price ($400) and more RAM.

SambaLele

More RAM wont make a difference with that GPU.

It needs a better GPU. The RAM is more than enough.

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#150 Xplode_games
Member since 2011 • 2540 Posts

If they drop the price to $399 I will buy it at launch.