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[QUOTE="SambaLele"]
It's probably new price ($400) and more RAM.
ManatuBeard
More RAM wont make a difference with that GPU.
It needs a better GPU. The RAM is more than enough.
This. And GDDR5 RAM inside PS4 is miles better than DDR3 RAM inside Xbox One, as DDR3 RAM is slow as molasses.
Plus PS4 has a much better GPU than the Xbox One does.
Maybe they'll have a compelling launch game or Q1 game to announce this time around. The least they could do is announce something on the level of Killzownage to come early in the system's life. I don't expect a megaton like inFAMOUS Second Son or anything , but do something for the struggling 180.
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[QUOTE="SambaLele"]
It's probably new price ($400) and more RAM.
Shinobi120
More RAM wont make a difference with that GPU.
It needs a better GPU. The RAM is more than enough.
This. And GDDR5 RAM inside PS4 is miles better than DDR3 RAM inside Xbox One, as DDR3 RAM is slow as molasses.
Plus PS4 has a much better GPU than the Xbox One does.
indeed. :cool:[QUOTE="Badosh"]Drop kinect, and I will buy day one, dumbsoft. AD216lies. if they drop the price to $400 you'll get it with or without kinect Well the 2 sort of go hand in hand, dont u think? :P
Damn the cow DC is hilarious, guess they're scared MS will beat them once again :cool:RR360DD
Microsoft hosting this conference is blatant damage control.
[QUOTE="shellcase86"]If it's changing for the better, why is changing a problem? I gotta agree with you. Yeah it looks bad that MS keeps flip flopping, but Im just grateful that they took their head out of their collective ass and are starting to wake up and take care of the glaring problems. Should we praise them to high heaven? No, cause this should never have even been an issue, but to continuously bash on them for trying to rectify an issue isnt the appropriate response either.Tragedy. More 180s. I don't see why anyone would stick to an ever-changing console platform.
meetroid8
[QUOTE="meetroid8"][QUOTE="shellcase86"]If it's changing for the better, why is changing a problem? I gotta agree with you. Yeah it looks bad that MS keeps flip flopping, but Im just grateful that they took their head out of their collective ass and are starting to wake up and take care of the glaring problems. Should we praise them to high heaven? No, cause this should never have even been an issue, but to continuously bash on them for trying to rectify an issue isnt the appropriate response either.Yeah, now they just need to do the same with their other products. People are switching to Apple and Linux left and right because Microsoft removed the taskbar and start menu from Windows. I keep seeing it happen. Our neighbor got an Apple recently, and my friend who games on consoles switched to Linux...Tragedy. More 180s. I don't see why anyone would stick to an ever-changing console platform.
II_Seraphim_II
[QUOTE="SambaLele"]
It's probably new price ($400) and more RAM.
ManatuBeard
More RAM wont make a difference with that GPU.
It needs a better GPU. The RAM is more than enough.
Who said the purpose would be to actually better the competition's hardware?
They'd do that because it'd cause the impression that they're ahead of the PS4. Just for marketing purposes. 12 GB vs. 8. Equal price. And we give you a Kinect in the bundle.
The hardware is good enough for gaming and it's other features, they don't need to invest more in that, so why spend more on another GPU? This seems a lot more coherent to recent MS' business practices.
lol...basically Msoft wants to reintroduce the XB1 because the first introduction was terrible :lol::lol::lol::lol:
[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="meetroid8"] If it's changing for the better, why is changing a problem?superclockedI gotta agree with you. Yeah it looks bad that MS keeps flip flopping, but Im just grateful that they took their head out of their collective ass and are starting to wake up and take care of the glaring problems. Should we praise them to high heaven? No, cause this should never have even been an issue, but to continuously bash on them for trying to rectify an issue isnt the appropriate response either.Yeah, now they just need to do the same with their other products. People are switching to Apple and Linux left and right because Microsoft removed the taskbar and start menu from Windows. I keep seeing it happen. Our neighbor got an Apple recently, and my friend who games on consoles switched to Linux...
windows 8.1 has the taskbar.
[QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]
[QUOTE="SambaLele"]
It's probably new price ($400) and more RAM.
SambaLele
More RAM wont make a difference with that GPU.
It needs a better GPU. The RAM is more than enough.
Who said the purpose would be to actually better the competition's hardware?
They'd do that because it'd cause the impression that they're ahead of the PS4. Just for marketing purposes. 12 GB vs. 8. Equal price. And we give you a Kinect in the bundle.
The hardware is good enough for gaming and it's other features, they don't need to invest more in that, so why spend more on another GPU? This seems a lot more coherent to recent MS' business practices.
So, Microsoft should treat the average consumer like an idiot?
[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="AD216"] lies. if they drop the price to $400 you'll get it with or without kinectAD216Well the 2 sort of go hand in hand, dont u think? :P not really. they need kinect
kinect is going to differenciate it from the competition. Microsoft is betting alot on it. I think its going to wow the public when they get hands on.
"Guys the Xbone was a total dud... We need to copy everything from the PS4. That'll get everyone on our side!" I don't think it works that way ;)istuffedsunnyexactly :lol:
Relaunching before system launching. This is biggest version of damage control in history of gaming. TLHBOMr-Kutaragi
[QUOTE="meetroid8"][QUOTE="shellcase86"]If it's changing for the better, why is changing a problem? I gotta agree with you. Yeah it looks bad that MS keeps flip flopping, but Im just grateful that they took their head out of their collective ass and are starting to wake up and take care of the glaring problems. Should we praise them to high heaven? No, cause this should never have even been an issue, but to continuously bash on them for trying to rectify an issue isnt the appropriate response either. to be honest you can thank Sony for Microsoft changing their minds, because Sony realized that Msofts original way was absolutely not the way to go at ALL, to be honest Sony saved the console game industryTragedy. More 180s. I don't see why anyone would stick to an ever-changing console platform.
II_Seraphim_II
[QUOTE="AD216"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]I really hope they don't ditch Kinect. It would make the XOne almost as boring as the PS4RR360DDi wouldnt get it at all if they dropped kinectI almost thought that, but then I remembered about the Xbox's superior online and controller. Can't give them up :cool: so good that you forgot about it in your post before.... LOL :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Relaunching before system launching. This is biggest version of damage control in history of gaming. TLHBOMr-KutaragiROFL...
[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="meetroid8"] If it's changing for the better, why is changing a problem?xboxiphoneps3I gotta agree with you. Yeah it looks bad that MS keeps flip flopping, but Im just grateful that they took their head out of their collective ass and are starting to wake up and take care of the glaring problems. Should we praise them to high heaven? No, cause this should never have even been an issue, but to continuously bash on them for trying to rectify an issue isnt the appropriate response either. to be honest you can thank Sony for Microsoft changing their minds, because Sony realized that Msofts original way was absolutely not the way to go at ALL, to be honest Sony saved the console game industry
or they had no games and knew it would be a slamdunk judging by what was an obvious shitstorm brewing? They afterall were the one getting Patents for DRM.
to be honest you can thank Sony for Microsoft changing their minds, because Sony realized that Msofts original way was absolutely not the way to go at ALL, to be honest Sony saved the console game industry[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"] I gotta agree with you. Yeah it looks bad that MS keeps flip flopping, but Im just grateful that they took their head out of their collective ass and are starting to wake up and take care of the glaring problems. Should we praise them to high heaven? No, cause this should never have even been an issue, but to continuously bash on them for trying to rectify an issue isnt the appropriate response either.XBOunity
or they had no games and knew it would be a slamdunk judging by what was an obvious shitstorm brewing? They afterall were the one getting Patents for DRM.
getting patents for something doesnt mean youll do something with it, Sony saved the console game industry, and Microsoft realized they couldnt go the route they wanted to go... stop trying to spin this in lemming way... for real bro learn when your wrong its getting **** annoying with all these delusional lemmings saying nonsense...
say thank you Sony for Microsoft reversal of basically everything they said... it was for the MUCH better... im very glad Msoft didnt go the route they originally intended to go
[QUOTE="XBOunity"]
[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"] to be honest you can thank Sony for Microsoft changing their minds, because Sony realized that Msofts original way was absolutely not the way to go at ALL, to be honest Sony saved the console game industry xboxiphoneps3
or they had no games and knew it would be a slamdunk judging by what was an obvious shitstorm brewing? They afterall were the one getting Patents for DRM.
getting patents for something doesnt mean youll do something with it, Sony saved the console game industry, and Microsoft realized they couldnt go the route they wanted to go... stop trying to spin this in lemming way... for real bro learn when your wrong its getting **** annoying with all these delusional lemmings saying nonsense...
say thank you Sony for Microsoft reversal of basically everything they said... it was for the MUCH better... im very glad Msoft didnt go the route they originally intended to go
lol yes and enjoy paying for PS plus, if you dont think digital is the future you really arent that smart. For real bro, stop misinforming and try and not be such an insecure cow.
Lems keep telling themselves that Kinect is needed, no it doesn't, as far as GAMING goes. Just because MS' trying to shoehorn that POS to their system, doesn't mean it is necessary, making the system different also doesn't mean it will do well either. History has shown that the winning system is the one that has the best library in combined with perfect pricing, great devs support and good policies.rjdofu
25 millions kinects sold.... open dat mind, people love the kinect, and this Kinect is 10x's better than the original.
XBOX ONE at E3:
Xbox ONE at launch:
:lol:
Douevenlift_bro
i don't think it's going to start making sense no matter how many times you post that.
[QUOTE="rjdofu"]Lems keep telling themselves that Kinect is needed, no it doesn't, as far as GAMING goes. Just because MS' trying to shoehorn that POS to their system, doesn't mean it is necessary, making the system different also doesn't mean it will do well either. History has shown that the winning system is the one that has the best library in combined with perfect pricing, great devs support and good policies.XBOunity
25 millions kinects sold.... open dat mind, people love the kinect, and this Kinect is 10x's better than the original.
People loved it because it's a gimmick, and the thing with casual is that once they bought something new and gimmicky, they won't do it again. They don't give a shit about how this one will be better either, it will just do the same thing, tracking their movement. Just look at the Wii and the Wii U.getting patents for something doesnt mean youll do something with it, Sony saved the console game industry, and Microsoft realized they couldnt go the route they wanted to go... stop trying to spin this in lemming way... for real bro learn when your wrong its getting **** annoying with all these delusional lemmings saying nonsense...[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"]
[QUOTE="XBOunity"]
or they had no games and knew it would be a slamdunk judging by what was an obvious shitstorm brewing? They afterall were the one getting Patents for DRM.
XBOunity
say thank you Sony for Microsoft reversal of basically everything they said... it was for the MUCH better... im very glad Msoft didnt go the route they originally intended to go
lol yes and enjoy paying for PS plus, if you dont think digital is the future you really arent that smart. For real bro, stop misinforming and try and not be such an insecure cow.
LOL YOU SEE THIS GUY? i guess he liked the 24 hour online check in and the terrible DRM policies they had in place... ignorant ass lemming... and ill be more then glad to play 5 bucks a month for PS Plus, ...and i guess enjoy paying for more expensive Xbox live? LOL...:lol: :roll: Sony saved the console game industry, and you cant admit it... what a shame
what am i saying thats misinforming or incorrect LOL? yeah thats right you cant even list it because your talking out your ass again... cant even admit when your blatantly wrong just stop it bro its ridicolous what your doing.. grow up :roll:
[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]
XBOX ONE at E3:
Xbox ONE at launch:
:lol:
CaseyWegner
i don't think it's going to start making sense no matter how many times you post that.
Sure it does.You're just of the opinion that MS is backpedalling to what the 360 was, not what the PS4 is.Either way you slice it, it's turning into a weaker PS4 ;)
[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]
[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]
XBOX ONE at E3:
Xbox ONE at launch:
:lol:
Douevenlift_bro
i don't think it's going to start making sense no matter how many times you post that.
Sure it does.You're just of the opinion that MS is backpedalling to what the 360 was, not what the PS4 is.Either way you slice it, it's turning into a weaker PS4 ;)
how is that?
[QUOTE="XBOunity"]
[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"] getting patents for something doesnt mean youll do something with it, Sony saved the console game industry, and Microsoft realized they couldnt go the route they wanted to go... stop trying to spin this in lemming way... for real bro learn when your wrong its getting **** annoying with all these delusional lemmings saying nonsense...
say thank you Sony for Microsoft reversal of basically everything they said... it was for the MUCH better... im very glad Msoft didnt go the route they originally intended to go
xboxiphoneps3
lol yes and enjoy paying for PS plus, if you dont think digital is the future you really arent that smart. For real bro, stop misinforming and try and not be such an insecure cow.
LOL YOU SEE THIS GUY? i guess he liked the 24 hour online check in and the terrible DRM policies they had in place... ignorant ass lemming... and ill be more then glad to play 5 bucks a month for PS Plus, ...and i guess enjoy paying for more expensive Xbox live? LOL...:lol: :roll: Sony saved the console game industry, and you cant admit it... what a shame
what am i saying thats misinforming or incorrect LOL? yeah thats right you cant even list it because your talking out your ass again... cant even admit when your blatantly wrong just stop it bro its ridicolous what your doing.. grow up :roll:
you have misinformed before with your fanboy antics, and stop getting so angry at the truth :roll: I will not read your 5 paragraph responses. Keep it down and I might read. dat 1.1 tflop to 1.84 tflops.
Sure it does.You're just of the opinion that MS is backpedalling to what the 360 was, not what the PS4 is.[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]
[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]
i don't think it's going to start making sense no matter how many times you post that.
CaseyWegner
Either way you slice it, it's turning into a weaker PS4 ;)
how is that?
It is how it is.You can't ask all the questions but never have any answers. So you tell me how its not?
to be honest im gonna laugh my ass off when they take Kinect 2.0 out the Xbox One and make the XB1 $399... maybe it will happen maybe it will not but that would be HILARIOUS xboxiphoneps3
see a post like this i will read :roll:... and i hope so i will save 100 on my day 1 edition.
LOL YOU SEE THIS GUY? i guess he liked the 24 hour online check in and the terrible DRM policies they had in place... ignorant ass lemming... and ill be more then glad to play 5 bucks a month for PS Plus, ...and i guess enjoy paying for more expensive Xbox live? LOL...:lol: :roll: Sony saved the console game industry, and you cant admit it... what a shame[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"]
[QUOTE="XBOunity"]
lol yes and enjoy paying for PS plus, if you dont think digital is the future you really arent that smart. For real bro, stop misinforming and try and not be such an insecure cow.
XBOunity
what am i saying thats misinforming or incorrect LOL? yeah thats right you cant even list it because your talking out your ass again... cant even admit when your blatantly wrong just stop it bro its ridicolous what your doing.. grow up :roll:
you have misinformed before with your fanboy antics, and stop getting so angry at the truth :roll: I will not read your 5 paragraph responses. Keep it down and I might read. dat 1.1 tflop to 1.84 tflops.
oh, but i thought i was just misinforming before? what happened to that? cant prove i was misinforming? and thats exactly what the tflop rating is right now because we know for a fact that 10% of GPU power is reserved for Xbox OS, so 10% of 1.24 is 1.1 teraflops... as of now we heard absolutely nothing on the PS4 gpu reserving GPU power for its OS, when that information comes out i will be more then glad to adjust the tflop ratings verses each console. but this is what we know thats concrete right now. and okay bro ignore the truth once again... that damage control... i posted links and facts and you say its fanboy antics. OK BRO, FANBOY ANTICS... dont take a plastic box that plays games too seriously ... step outside and catch some fresh air[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]
[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]Sure it does.You're just of the opinion that MS is backpedalling to what the 360 was, not what the PS4 is.
Either way you slice it, it's turning into a weaker PS4 ;)
Douevenlift_bro
how is that?
It is how it is.You can't ask all the questions but never have any answers. So you tell me how its not?
because there's nothing revolutionary about it. let's say somebody behind me in a line at mcdonald's orders a big mac after i order a big mac. are they copying me?
[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"]to be honest im gonna laugh my ass off when they take Kinect 2.0 out the Xbox One and make the XB1 $399... maybe it will happen maybe it will not but that would be HILARIOUS XBOunity
see a post like this i will read :roll:... and i hope so i will save 100 on my day 1 edition.
i would be glad if they took out Kinect 2.0 from the Xbox One, to make it $100 cheaper, and let them include a headset in the Xbox One packaging and call it a day.
you hope so? but i thought you did all that bragging on how Kinect 2.0 is awesome and that PS4 sux because it doesnt have it..."DAT BODY TRACKING BRO I CAN PLACE MY FULL BODY INTO A GAME WITH KINECT 2.0 BRO CAN YOU DO THAT WITH PS4?? NO"
my my how things have changed so fast.....:lol:
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