MS spent 100 million dollars designing the X1 controller

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#1 balfe1990
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Microsoft has spent more than $100 million on designing the Xbox One controller. It sounds like an extraordinary sum, but that includes the design of hundreds of pad prototypes, thousands of hours of user research studies, and creating new tooling and construction facilities. The project dragged on for two-and-a-half years.

"The investments in redesigning a controller go into the hundreds of millions of dollars in tooling and R&D costs. Bearing in mind we started with something that people considered best-in-class, the pressure to do it right again was tremendous.

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What's widely considered the stand-out improvement, as detailed here, is the Impulse triggers. Alam and his team have shrunk rumble motors down to about one eighth of their previous size and scattered several of them across the pad, allowing for more subtle force feedback in localised parts of the controller.

In one FPS-style demo CVG played, firing a virtual pistol with the controller's right trigger resulted in simulated recoil occurring on just that part of the controller. In another demo, which had the same virtual hand magically spawn a fire ball, you could 'feel' the explosive projectile explode from the centre of the controller and out towards your fingers.


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More here.

It does look like a pretty perfect specimen, though I'm still quite baffled as to why they're using AAs instead of some fancy lithium solution. That would have rounded off any rough edges the controller has/had.

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I'll also say that MS have stated that the controller will be able to be used on PC "sometime in 2014".

A Microsoft spokesperson tells GamesBeat that while the Xbox One controller looks like the current Xbox 360 controller in many ways, the two dont share the same technology.

New wireless protocol, combined with the ability to work in wired mode, and the addition of features like Impulse triggers, means that new software has to be written and optimized for the PC, the Microsoft spokesperson says. There is also some work that we need to do to make sure that existing PC games that support the Xbox 360 controller will work with the Xbox One controller.

While it seems trivial, its actually quite a bit of dedicated work for all that to be seamless for the user.

The Xbox One controller reportedly has over 40 design improvements, including redesigned thumb sticks, remodeled triggers and bumpers, and the aforementioned impulse triggers that provide haptic feedback. It will work wirelessly, through standard AA batteries or rechargeables, or wired through a standard micro USB cable.

Microsoft says it expects PC compatibility will be functional sometime in 2014.

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#2 legalize82
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and still AA batteries :lol:
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#3 mems_1224
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Money well spent. From God's hands straight to ours. Thank you MS.
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#4 1080pOnly
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It does look amazing, can't wait to get one for my PC!

Sony really is playing catch-up in this department, although I'll reserve final judgement for when I've actually got them both in my hands.

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#5 lilnazar
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100 million just to make some small improvements? What a waste of money. 

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Will be usuable on PC sometime 2014? At least it's not that far away. 

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The controller looks absolutely brilliant and perfect.
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#8 1080pOnly
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and still AA batteries :lol:legalize82

Even better imo :)

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#9 balfe1990
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Will be usuable on PC sometime 2014? At least it's not that far away. 

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#10 Gargus
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100 million? Yeah right.

Oculus rift didnt cost that much to R&D and its a lot more advanced than simply taking an exsisting controller design and tweaking it.

Im guessing this is either 100% pure bullshit just meant to hype fanboys into running around having something to brag about, or someone shilled most of that money into their own production budget just to have capital to burn through.

Thats the problem with a lot of gaming companies. They just throw tons of cash at a problem expecting it to just be ok if they keep shovling money out, and in the end its the consumer who ends up paying for it.

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and still AA batteries :lol:legalize82
Good!
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#12 Snugenz
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It will probably be the best controller ever, for my PC :D

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and still AA batteries :lol:legalize82
i lol'd
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[QUOTE="legalize82"]and still AA batteries :lol:stereointegrity
i lol'd

How does that negate the million other improvements already made to a largely perfect controller?

Yeah, it doesn't. A minor inconvenience.

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#15 Mrmedia01
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LMAO and it almost looks like the original Xbox One controller. Money wasted confirmed.

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[QUOTE="Gamesbeat"]

 

Microsoft says it expects PC compatibility will be functional sometime in 2014.

balfe1990

Further linkage re: PC compatibility here.

:|

Why

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#17 balfe1990
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[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

 

[QUOTE="Gamesbeat"]

 

Microsoft says it expects PC compatibility will be functional sometime in 2014.

princeofshapeir

Further linkage re: PC compatibility here.

:|

Why

Can I help you.

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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

Further linkage re: PC compatibility here.

balfe1990

:|

Why

Can I help you.

Tell MS I'm mad
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[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="legalize82"]and still AA batteries :lol:balfe1990

i lol'd

How does that negate the million other improvements already made to a largely perfect controller?

Yeah, it doesn't. A minor inconvenience.

40 improvements to be exact.... and lol AA batteries what is this 2004
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#20 Trail_Mix
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Didn't they spend around a 100 mill on something else with the Xbone too?

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[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"] i lol'dstereointegrity

How does that negate the million other improvements already made to a largely perfect controller?

Yeah, it doesn't. A minor inconvenience.

40 improvements to be exact.... and lol AA batteries what is this 2004

Who cares, buy a third party rechargeable battery pack if you care that much
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What a waste, the 360 contoller was great for shooters, but almost every other genre was better with the dualshock.
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#23 APiranhaAteMyVa
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Looks awesome, also like that you can use a standard USB cable and turn it into a wired controller. Although I wish they included a decent sized USB cable in the box for that very purpose, unless they do, but I don't remember that being in the unboxing video.
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If only they had spent that on their GPU..

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#25 balfe1990
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Tell MS I'm mad princeofshapeir

About what, the timeframe?

40 improvements to be exact.... and lol AA batteries what is this 2004stereointegrity

If it really gets your knickers in a twist, then use a standard USB cable and make it wired, then you'll never need to worry about AAs or AAAs or lithiums ever again.

Granted, the battery situation isn't ideal, but I think it may be drowned out by the fact you're getting one of the most awesome controllers to ever grace the planet. It's a tiny fly in a giant f*cking bucket of ointment.

 

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I really have a hard time believing that. Like HOW do you spend that much on a controller? It's not even brand new it's just an iteration or upgrade

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Does look like an amazing controller. 

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#28 Snugenz
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"] Tell MS I'm mad balfe1990

About what, the timeframe?

40 improvements to be exact.... and lol AA batteries what is this 2004stereointegrity

If it really gets your knickers in a twist, then use a standard USB cable and make it wired, then you'll never need to worry about AAs or AAAs or lithiums ever again.

Granted, the battery situation isn't ideal, but I think it may be drowned out by the fact you're getting one of the most awesome controllers to ever grace the planet. It's a tiny fly in a giant f*cking bucket of ointment.

 

Indeed and if it is a totally standard micro-usb to usb cable that's needed, he can just use his PS3 one :P

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#29 balfe1990
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What a waste, the 360 contoller was great for shooters, but almost every other genre was better with the dualshock.Granny_Spanked

Yeah but.. you're in the minority there.

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and still AA batteries :lol:legalize82
10/10 But seriously, it better have a half-decent Dpad this time around.
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#31 balfe1990
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I really have a hard time believing that. Like HOW do you spend that much on a controller? It's not even brand new it's just an iteration or upgrade

seanmcloughlin

Wasn't sure myself when I posted it. Was sort of thinking the engineer bloke in the interview was just being flippant when he threw out a number and CVG took it as gospel. Posted anyway for the sensationalist thread title.

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[QUOTE="legalize82"]and still AA batteries :lol:stereointegrity
i lol'd

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Xbox one about to be one huge flop ps4 is taking back America and the world might be a wii u type of struggle or worst for xbox one some might think I'm tripping that flop is coming original xbox type number or a little better but a big drop off from xbox 360
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#34 edidili
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Looks like a big number although I'm not surprised. MS is known for throwing a lot of money in R&D.

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#35 Ribnarak
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doubt its a 100 million. but regardless, AA batteries LOL. 

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Xbox one about to be one huge flop ps4 is taking back America and the world might be a wii u type of struggle or worst for xbox one some might think I'm tripping that flop is coming original xbox type number or a little better but a big drop off from xbox 360rell84

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#37 Snugenz
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If only they had spent that on their GPU..

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are lemmings trolling, or are they really really really are so stupid, to defend xbox one?

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#39 rell84
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Ps4 sell 100 mill xbox one 40-50 mill
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Xbox one about to be one huge flop ps4 is taking back America and the world might be a wii u type of struggle or worst for xbox one some might think I'm tripping that flop is coming original xbox type number or a little better but a big drop off from xbox 360rell84
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#41 balfe1990
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or are they really really really are so stupid?

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#42 Zaibach
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[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="legalize82"]and still AA batteries :lol:balfe1990

i lol'd

How does that negate the million other improvements already made to a largely perfect controller?

Yeah, it doesn't. A minor inconvenience.

 

if it were 'perfect' it wouldnt need improvements

 

and come on, still using AA batteries in 2013? 

 

dont be an apologist

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that's funny, ms pissed away more money on the controller than sony has made in profit for the last 8 years.

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$200 million? They could have saved money if they just went the Sony route with PS3 and just used their current gen controller. :lol:
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#45 Snugenz
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[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"] i lol'dZaibach

How does that negate the million other improvements already made to a largely perfect controller?

Yeah, it doesn't. A minor inconvenience.

 

if it were 'perfect' it wouldnt need improvements

 

and come on, still using AA batteries in 2013? 

 

dont be an apologist

I wish my DS3 had the option to use AA batteries, if it did i would'nt have to replace or buy a new battery online for the one that just died.

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Thats why their controllers are epic -- that is an extraordinary sum, though
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#47 balfe1990
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[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"] i lol'dZaibach

How does that negate the million other improvements already made to a largely perfect controller?

Yeah, it doesn't. A minor inconvenience.

 

if it were 'perfect' it wouldnt need improvements

 

and come on, still using AA batteries in 2013? 

 

dont be an apologist

Durr, I'm not being an apologist, I already addressed the AA battery situation in the OP. I figured that was enough moaning and it was time to move on and/or to identify ways around it. It's inconvenient but I think it's safe to say it can be overlooked in the face of the plethora of improvements. Use a USB cable. Buy a good set of rechargeable AAs. Buy a cheap third party play and charge. Yeah, you shouldn't have to, but you do.

So maybe try and focus on the many things they've built upon in the controller. Every journo who's had hands on time with the controller has expressed excitement. Talking about AA batteries is a bit boring now.

Is it really a big issue for you? Really?

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#48 lowkey254
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Because they put $100 million into it's development doesn't mean it's going to be the greatest controller. As of now, that title is for the DS3... Opinions, ya know?

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[QUOTE="legalize82"]and still AA batteries :lol:1080pOnly

Even better imo :)

same.
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#50 rell84
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Microsoft have always sucked at gaming that year head start and price helped them big time Microsoft rushed out they forgot hdmi and wifi no year head start no price advantage is a lost for them going head to head with Sony