MS spent 100 million dollars designing the X1 controller

[QUOTE="Granny_Spanked"]What a waste, the 360 contoller was great for shooters, but almost every other genre was better with the dualshock.balfe1990

Yeah but.. you're in the minority there.

Because they put $100 million into it's development doesn't mean it's going to be the greatest controller. As of now, that title is for the DS3... Opinions, ya know?

lowkey254

I'm truly sorry you feel that way buddy :(

As of now, that title is for the DS3... Opinions, ya know?

lowkey254

Thats one helluva an opinion right there

[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

[QUOTE="Granny_Spanked"]What a waste, the 360 contoller was great for shooters, but almost every other genre was better with the dualshock.Granny_Spanked

Yeah but.. you're in the minority there.

Shall I tell it again?

This is really stupid. I mean, who the hell spends 100 million dollars to make a controller? That amount of money is like 50% off the money M$ has in total. 

This is really stupid. I mean, who the hell spends 100 million dollars to make a controller? That amount of money is like 50% off the money M$ has in total. 

lilnazar

They spend 8,000,000,000+ in R&D across all departments each year. So, yeah.

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

How does that negate the million other improvements already made to a largely perfect controller?

Yeah, it doesn't. A minor inconvenience.

balfe1990

if it were 'perfect' it wouldnt need improvements

and come on, still using AA batteries in 2013? 

dont be an apologist

Durr, I'm not being an apologist, I already addressed the AA battery situation in the OP. I figured that was enough moaning and it was time to move on and/or to identify ways around it. It's inconvenient but I think it's safe to say it can be overlooked in the face of the plethora of improvements. Use a USB cable. Buy a good set of rechargeable AAs. Buy a cheap third party play and charge. Yeah, you shouldn't have to, but you do.

So maybe try and focus on the many things they've built upon in the controller. Every journo who's had hands on time with the controller has expressed excitement. Talking about AA batteries is a bit boring now.

Is it really a big issue for you? Really?

You claim that the 360 controller was perfect and then go to great lenghts to pontificate about the 'plethora' of improvements, my advice, pick a rhetoric and stick with it.

I really like the Xbone controller I plan to get it for a PC if ever hould I decide to get into PC gaming.

Honestly I am not 100% clear on the MS direction with the batteries, if you have other options thats great, either way you look at it, spending 100 million on R&D for a controller is psychotic

This is really stupid. I mean, who the hell spends 100 million dollars to make a controller? That amount of money is like 50% off the money M$ has in total. 

lilnazar

 

You claim that the 360 controller was perfect and then go to great lenghts to pontificate about the 'plethora' of improvements, my advice, pick a rhetoric and stick with it.

I really like the Xbone controller I plan to get it for a PC if ever hould I decide to get into PC gaming.

Honestly I am not 100% clear on the MS direction with the batteries, if you have other options thats great, either way you look at it, spending 100 million on R&D for a controller is psychotic

 

 

Zaibach

lol, in fairness I was using the word perfect a bit lightly. Obviously there will always be areas to be improved upon.

What I meant is that it's difficult to find fault with the 360 controller, aside from the two elephants(D-Pad and AA batts). Everything else is quite flawless, and the Xbox One controller has built upon the 360 pad, not just ironed out problems (because there were few). You can improve upon perfection.

either way you look at it, spending 100 million on R&D for a controller is psychotic

Zaibach

I wouldn't say that. You underestimate the value of a good controller. I know people that choose the 360 over PS3 only because they liked the controller more for games like CoD which kinda explains the popularity of CoD in that console. In the end that game sold a lot of consoles for MS, more then their own exclusives. 

Maybe 100 million is too much, especially for an iterative controller but they spent 9.2 billion in R&D in 2012. They're the kind of company that "wastes" money on R&D.

Before I say anything I need to know how much Sony Spent. If Sony spent only a fraction of what Microsoft spent and word going around is the PS4 controller is more comfortable, That guy that decided to spend that much needs to fired, quick.

100 million and still uses aa batteries :lol:

Remember when cows predicted the next Xbox wouldn't ship with a controller, just Kinect.

Yeah, owned.

:cool:

[QUOTE="lilnazar"]

This is really stupid. I mean, who the hell spends 100 million dollars to make a controller? That amount of money is like 50% off the money M$ has in total. 

R3FURBISHED

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

either way you look at it, spending 100 million on R&D for a controller is psychotic

edidili

I wouldn't say that. You underestimate the value of a good controller. I know people that choose the 360 over PS3 only because they liked the controller more for games like CoD which kinda explains the popularity of CoD in that console. In the end that game sold a lot of consoles for MS, more then their own exclusives. 

Maybe 100 million is too much, especially for an iterative controller but they spent 9.2 billion in R&D in 2012. They're the kind of company that "wastes" money on R&D.

anecdotal evidence, etc

but it is psychotic, most corporations are. 

The 360 was a fine controller spending 100 million to 'perfect' it is ridiculous,

sony also used all the money they could afford to put a crack team together for the dualshock.

$100 million could easily be the cost of retoolign the dies for even the slightest of changes.  But since we know that they added rumble everywhere and chagned the look, its 100% a new tool die (and they don't use just one die in one plant).  I'm sure the research portion was hardly 1 million worth of employee costs and equipment.

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

How does that negate the million other improvements already made to a largely perfect controller?

Yeah, it doesn't. A minor inconvenience.

Snugenz

if it were 'perfect' it wouldnt need improvements

and come on, still using AA batteries in 2013? 

dont be an apologist

I wish my DS3 had the option to use AA batteries, if it did i would'nt have to replace or buy a new battery online for the one that just died.

And it still uses AA batteries :lol:

The controller looks really nice. The rumble feature sounds really cool. Just too much money to spend though :/

100 million and still uses aa batteries :lol:

Krelian-co

The controller looks really nice. The rumble feature sounds really cool. Just too much money to spend though :/

AmayaPapaya

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

 

if it were 'perfect' it wouldnt need improvements

 

and come on, still using AA batteries in 2013? 

 

dont be an apologist

II_Seraphim_II

I wish my DS3 had the option to use AA batteries, if it did i would'nt have to replace or buy a new battery online for the one that just died.

Dont worry, you'll be hearing a lot of whataboutery coming from a lot of apologists in coming months

And still uses AA batteries :lol:

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="Snugenz"]

I wish my DS3 had the option to use AA batteries, if it did i would'nt have to replace or buy a new battery online for the one that just died.

Zaibach

Dont worry, you'll be hearing a lot of whataboutery coming from a lot of apologists in coming months

Yeah he must have been mistaken, the ds3 is made with nuclear power, it's clinically impossible for the battery to die. Oh and making a big deal about batteries even though you could buy ( or most likley already own) rechargable ones.

I have a feeling we'll be hearing a lot more grasping in the coming months.

$100 million dollars to add rumble to triggers :lol:

$100 million dollars to add rumble to triggers :lol:

Douevenlift_bro

[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

$100 million dollars to add rumble to triggers :lol:

Kaz_Son

:lol:

[ You are officially the first person I know of, who's DS3 battery died. I bought my PS3 launch day, still have the sixaxis from then and it works like a charm.II_Seraphim_II

Was watching Netflix on my PS3, the battery light was flashing (needed a recharge) i fell asleep, went to use the PS3 the next day and the controller would'nt power on, even with the USB cable attached.

Dont worry, you'll be hearing a lot of whataboutery coming from a lot of apologists in coming months

Zaibach

Yeah i apologize that my DS3 died, my bad...

[QUOTE="Kaz_Son"][QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

$100 million dollars to add rumble to triggers :lol:

Douevenlift_bro

:lol:

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"] You are officially the first person I know of, who's DS3 battery died. I bought my PS3 launch day, still have the sixaxis from then and it works like a charm.deangallop

Dont worry, you'll be hearing a lot of whataboutery coming from a lot of apologists in coming months

Yeah he must have been mistaken, the ds3 is made with nuclear power, it's clinically impossible for the battery to die. Oh and making a big deal about batteries even though you could buy ( or most likley already own) rechargable ones.

I have a feeling we'll be hearing a lot more grasping in the coming months.

I love a hyperbole as much as the next guy, because if other controllers dont use AA batteries they must be powered uranium right?

though I dont recall ever saying anything lasts forever, I like the little jab with 'grasping at straws' It really punctuates the irony in your post

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][ You are officially the first person I know of, who's DS3 battery died. I bought my PS3 launch day, still have the sixaxis from then and it works like a charm.Snugenz

Was watching Netflix on my PS3, the battery light was flashing (needed a recharge) i fell asleep, went to use the PS3 the next day and the controller would'nt power on, even with the USB cable attached.

Dont worry, you'll be hearing a lot of whataboutery coming from a lot of apologists in coming months

Zaibach

Yeah i apologize that my DS3 died, my bad...

Tragedy.

They spent that much and they still felt compelled to release a product that requires AA batteries. The other features seem neat, but what other "cutting-edge" consumer electronic device requires AA batteries? 180 waiting to happen.

Perfection.

and still AA batteries :lol:legalize82

and still AA batteries :lol:legalize82

common and easy to find.

They could have saved $100,000,000 and changed the font of the button letters and the logo on the home button and been done with it.  

:lol: at the desperation from the cows to try and make the battery non-issue and issue. This is why I don't tell people that I own a PS3 too often. I wish the PS4 was going to be using AA batteries so that I don't have to take my WIRELESS controller and turn it into a WIRED controller just to charge it. Would much rather just swap out the rechargeable batteries for a fully charged set while the game is pause instead of having to sit close to the TV with a wire hanging from my controller than somebody could trip over, which any gamer knows is a common thing to have happen when playing with a wired controller.AmazonTreeBoa

my only gripe about the ps3 controller is how short the wire is. the controller becomes useless for me if i need to charge it while playing something.