MS spent 100 million dollars designing the X1 controller

100 million for almost that same controller that uses AA batteries. M$ are funny :lol:

[QUOTE="Ne-Plus-Ultra"]

[QUOTE="sts106mat"] way to completely miss the point. there are loads of third party controllers for the PS3 modeled on the design of the 360 pad, because its generally considered better.......there are no third party controllers for the 360 based on the PS3 controller, because there isn't the demand for it, due to the 360 controller just being better.....sts106mat

Really I missed the point, you just stated that there is NO demand for the PS3 controller on the 360, then I show you the proof, yet you still cannot except the fact that there is a demand. And once again why do you want a knockoff when you can get the real thing.

It's obvious that people don't want some fake, when there is a perfect version already available, this is why there is a market for adapters and not knockoffs.

Why is that so hard to understand.

I hate to be the one to tell you, but your opinion doesn't = fact, btw I mostly play FPS with guess what a DS3, also guess what, I have large hands and it works just fine.

Again what is your obsession with knockoff controllers, is it that the xbox controller just doesn't satisfy you?

I'm not saying that the xbox controller sucks, in fact I think it's the second best controller out there imo.

Seem like it's about a draw when it comes down to which one is best.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/26375541/dualshock-3-vs.-xbox-360-controller

nope, rechargables shouldn't be the number one choice for gear like games controllers. 3volts >>>>2.6volts.... once again, i buy good quality AA batteries for other stuff too.....cry more.sts106mat

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0029NZVZ0/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=1535523722&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B0029LHXG2&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0HKWS89YMJNPY8V6ZJC3

What about 3.2 >> 3.0

$4 dollars more than the charge and play kit,has 4 batteries and are 1.6 last even longer than disposable batteries...:lol:

Now what will be your excuse.?

Up to 1,000 charges...

 

 you seem a bit thick,  i am happy with the 360 controller,  i just pointed out that the PS3 controller isn't imitated, but the 360 one is and there is high demand for the shape and style on the PS3, so much so that there are numerous versions available from a multitude of companies.......check my link

argument = destroyed 

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=third+party+ps3+controller&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=7VQKUsnuCqy47Qa3pICwAQ&sqi=2&ved=0CHoQsAQ&biw=1920&bih=961

 

  -- LOL

sts106mat

The DS still is the most used controller for gaming,it has created the most rip off,and the xbox controllers actually exist because of it..:lol:

MS copy both the DC and PS controller make a hybrid and call it the best thing ever,funny how the new DS still has its analogues in a simetrical way yet now is even more love than the xbox controller,and basically every site say good things about it....:lol:

more voltage than the manufacturer reccommends in their electrical product??????? never a good idea brains.sts106mat

Hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa..................

My god the denial is strong on this one..:lol:

The batteries been 1.6 wll not harm in any way any device,just like operating under 2.6 doesn't hurt them either.

 

 LINK?  LINK?..:lol:

 LINK?,..:lol:

 

sts106mat

Links.? Are you fu**ing blind.?

What other controller had 2 analogues,what other controller had rumble build in.? Hell the xbox 360 controller has 4 shoulder buttons 2 triggers and the L and R..:lol:

Wait what about the number of buttons exactly the same..:lol:

The xbox controller is a rip off...:lol:

[QUOTE="Ne-Plus-Ultra"]

[QUOTE="sts106mat"] LOL, there is not enough demand for a third party company to manufacture a controller based on the DS3 design......FACT. there is plenty of demand for 360 modelled controllers on the PS3, because the DS3 controller isn't ergonomic for FPS games and the triggers suck......FACT. sts106mat

I hate to be the one to tell you, but your opinion doesn't = fact, btw I mostly play FPS with guess what a DS3, also guess what, I have large hands and it works just fine.

Again what is your obsession with knockoff controllers, is it that the xbox controller just doesn't satisfy you?

I'm not saying that the xbox controller sucks, in fact I think it's the second best controller out there imo.

Seem like it's about a draw when it comes down to which one is best.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/26375541/dualshock-3-vs.-xbox-360-controller

 you seem a bit thick,  i am happy with the 360 controller,  i just pointed out that the PS3 controller isn't imitated, but the 360 one is and there is high demand for the shape and style on the PS3, so much so that there are numerous versions available from a multitude of companies.......check my link

argument = destroyed 

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=third+party+ps3+controller&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=7VQKUsnuCqy47Qa3pICwAQ&sqi=2&ved=0CHoQsAQ&biw=1920&bih=961

  -- LOL

And why would you want to emulate something that is perfect just the way it is.

Here is an image of a PS3 controller that will work on a 360

you can keep trying to save face, but sorry I'm right. I don't know why you want to use a knockoff on the PS3, I thought you liked the 360 controller? If I was going to play on the 360 though I would want a real PS3 controller.

And why the name calling? You do know that's a sign of someone who's loosing.

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="legalize82"]and still AA batteries :lol:balfe1990

How does that negate the million other improvements already made to a largely perfect controller?

Yeah, it doesn't. A minor inconvenience.

So the controller was perfect... yet they were able to improve upon it in a million different ways?

Your logic is bulletproof :roll:

[QUOTE="Ne-Plus-Ultra"]

[QUOTE="sts106mat"] LOL, there is not enough demand for a third party company to manufacture a controller based on the DS3 design......FACT. there is plenty of demand for 360 modelled controllers on the PS3, because the DS3 controller isn't ergonomic for FPS games and the triggers suck......FACT. sts106mat

I hate to be the one to tell you, but your opinion doesn't = fact, btw I mostly play FPS with guess what a DS3, also guess what, I have large hands and it works just fine.

Again what is your obsession with knockoff controllers, is it that the xbox controller just doesn't satisfy you?

I'm not saying that the xbox controller sucks, in fact I think it's the second best controller out there imo.

Seem like it's about a draw when it comes down to which one is best.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/26375541/dualshock-3-vs.-xbox-360-controller

 you seem a bit thick,  i am happy with the 360 controller,  i just pointed out that the PS3 controller isn't imitated, but the 360 one is and there is high demand for the shape and style on the PS3, so much so that there are numerous versions available from a multitude of companies.......check my link

argument = destroyed 

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=third+party+ps3+controller&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=7VQKUsnuCqy47Qa3pICwAQ&sqi=2&ved=0CHoQsAQ&biw=1920&bih=961

  -- LOL

[QUOTE="sts106mat"]

[QUOTE="Ne-Plus-Ultra"]

I hate to be the one to tell you, but your opinion doesn't = fact, btw I mostly play FPS with guess what a DS3, also guess what, I have large hands and it works just fine.

Again what is your obsession with knockoff controllers, is it that the xbox controller just doesn't satisfy you?

I'm not saying that the xbox controller sucks, in fact I think it's the second best controller out there imo.

Seem like it's about a draw when it comes down to which one is best.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/26375541/dualshock-3-vs.-xbox-360-controller

Ne-Plus-Ultra

 you seem a bit thick,  i am happy with the 360 controller,  i just pointed out that the PS3 controller isn't imitated, but the 360 one is and there is high demand for the shape and style on the PS3, so much so that there are numerous versions available from a multitude of companies.......check my link

argument = destroyed 

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=third+party+ps3+controller&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=7VQKUsnuCqy47Qa3pICwAQ&sqi=2&ved=0CHoQsAQ&biw=1920&bih=961

  -- LOL

And why would you want to emulate something that is perfect just the way it is.

Here is an image of a PS3 controller that will work on a 360

you can keep trying to save face, but sorry I'm right. I don't know why you want to use a knockoff on the PS3, I thought you liked the 360 controller? If I was going to play on the 360 though I would want a real PS3 controller.

And why the name calling? You do know that's a sign of someone who's loosing.

If the Dualshock 3 is so perfect, why have Sony changed the Dualshock 4 to be more like the Xbox controller?

I saw you mentioned earlier that the size of the dualshock feels great in your hands. YET Sony have increased the size of the Dualshock 4 to something similar to the 360 controller LOL. They also completely reworked the ergonomics of the controller - the grips in particular looks strangely similar to the 360 controller :lol:

Sorry but the dualshock was far from perfect and Sony themselves have admitted that through striving to emulate the Xbox controller with the DS4.

If you loved the DS3, thats too bad. You're gonna have to put up with a bigger controller on the PS4. Its even bigger than the XOne controller.

:cool:

[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"] i lol'dmoistsandwich

How does that negate the million other improvements already made to a largely perfect controller?

Yeah, it doesn't. A minor inconvenience.

So the controller was perfect... yet they were able to improve upon it in a million different ways?

Your logic is bulletproof :roll:

Hahaha funny guy

[QUOTE="Ne-Plus-Ultra"]

[QUOTE="sts106mat"]

 you seem a bit thick,  i am happy with the 360 controller,  i just pointed out that the PS3 controller isn't imitated, but the 360 one is and there is high demand for the shape and style on the PS3, so much so that there are numerous versions available from a multitude of companies.......check my link

argument = destroyed 

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=third+party+ps3+controller&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=7VQKUsnuCqy47Qa3pICwAQ&sqi=2&ved=0CHoQsAQ&biw=1920&bih=961

 

  -- LOL

 

 

RR360DD

And why would you want to emulate something that is perfect just the way it is.

Here is an image of a PS3 controller that will work on a 360

you can keep trying to save face, but sorry I'm right. I don't know why you want to use a knockoff on the PS3, I thought you liked the 360 controller? If I was going to play on the 360 though I would want a real PS3 controller.

And why the name calling? You do know that's a sign of someone who's loosing.

If the Dualshock 3 is so perfect, why have Sony changed the Dualshock 4 to be more like the Xbox controller?

I saw you mentioned earlier that the size of the dualshock feels great in your hands. YET Sony have increased the size of the Dualshock 4 to something similar to the 360 controller LOL. They also completely reworked the ergonomics of the controller - the grips in particular looks strangely similar to the 360 controller :lol:

Sorry but the dualshock was far from perfect and Sony themselves have admitted that through striving to emulate the Xbox controller with the DS4.

If you loved the DS3, thats too bad. You're gonna have to put up with a bigger controller on the PS4. Its even bigger than the XOne controller.

:cool:

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="sts106mat"]

 

 LINK?  LINK?..:lol:

 LINK?,..:lol:

 

sts106mat

Links.? Are you fu**ing blind.?

What other controller had 2 analogues,what other controller had rumble build in.? Hell the xbox 360 controller has 4 shoulder buttons 2 triggers and the L and R..:lol:

Wait what about the number of buttons exactly the same..:lol:

The xbox controller is a rip off...:lol:

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="sts106mat"] pathetic dude.sts106mat

Cute push poll.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="sts106mat"] how else are you supposed to do it? Games were being developed as multiplats back then, a very different control scheme would be big mistake when you main competitor is 100 million strong. i liked the ds2 when i played on my ps2, and thought the original xbox controller was a lump. but times move on and things get better.

sts106mat

[QUOTE="Ne-Plus-Ultra"]

[QUOTE="sts106mat"]

 you seem a bit thick,  i am happy with the 360 controller,  i just pointed out that the PS3 controller isn't imitated, but the 360 one is and there is high demand for the shape and style on the PS3, so much so that there are numerous versions available from a multitude of companies.......check my link

argument = destroyed 

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=third+party+ps3+controller&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=7VQKUsnuCqy47Qa3pICwAQ&sqi=2&ved=0CHoQsAQ&biw=1920&bih=961

 

  -- LOL

 

 

sts106mat

And why would you want to emulate something that is perfect just the way it is.

Here is an image of a PS3 controller that will work on a 360

you can keep trying to save face, but sorry I'm right. I don't know why you want to use a knockoff on the PS3, I thought you liked the 360 controller? If I was going to play on the 360 though I would want a real PS3 controller.

And why the name calling? You do know that's a sign of someone who's loosing.

EDIT - and lol at the URL on that picture "community redesign"  hahaha

Once again your opinions don't = facts, I don't know why lems have such a hard time with that one.

The community redesign picture is a real PS3 controller that's attached to an article about different design schemes. It would've been funny though if it was a knockoff.

Plus I still don't see how you think that multiple devices manufactured to allow DS3 to be used on xbox at the cost of real money from multiple corporations = no demand.

I've owned multiple businesses, and I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that these devices would not be on the market if there was no demand.

I guess you just don't want to except the fact that people want to use PS3 controllers on the 360. I gave you the proof, yet you still want to act like there is no proof, at this point you're looking like you're in serious denial and or damage control.

Plus originally you wanted an explanation on why there are so many 360 type controllers for the PS3, in reality we'll never know for a fact, I'd guess that lems looking to play something descent wanted to keep their controller type, while cows really don't have the need to play much on the 360.

I will tell you one thing that is definitely a fact, the PS3 has many more players, this is obvious, considering that the PS3 has sold somewhere around the same numbers as the 360, (in less time I might add) yet the 360 had a 23.7-33% failure rate up until 2009, gameinformer even put the failure rate at 52.4%, yet the PS3 had a 3%-10% failure rate. So considering that the market was flooded with 360s because of the failure rate, it would only be logical that there are more working PS3s out there then 360s, now I know some people and lems use an xbox style controller with the PS3, but when you consider that there are many more PS3s out there then 360s you would have to be nuts to think that more people use 360 controllers then PS3 controllers. Considering everything, I would have to agree with the poll that you ignored, It's about 50-50.

Sorry it's taking me so long to post, but work must be done.   

Now I bet you'll reiterate your repetitive discourse for the umpteenth time to make yourself feel like you accomplished something, when in reality you've been spinning your wheels for quite some time now, but hay, whatever helps you sleep at night.

sony wonders how any company can spend 15 years worth of profit on controller r&d.

:shock:

Riverwolf007

[QUOTE="Ne-Plus-Ultra"]

[QUOTE="sts106mat"] nope, you lost the argument, because you have been unable to show why there are oodles of 360 modeled controllers for the PS3, yet none based on the DS3 for the 360. a quick google search shows the demand is pretty much a one way street, the 360 controller is great, the DS3....not so much. you can and may prefer it, but the facts don't lie.

EDIT - and lol at the URL on that picture "community redesign" hahaha

sts106mat

Once again your opinions don't = facts, I don't know why lems have such a hard time with that one.

The community redesign picture is a real PS3 controller that's attached to an article about different design schemes. It would've been funny though if it was a knockoff.

Plus I still don't see how you think that multiple devices manufactured to allow DS3 to be used on xbox at the cost of real money from multiple corporations = no demand.

I've owned multiple businesses, and I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that these devices would not be on the market if there was no demand.

I guess you just don't want to except the fact that people want to use PS3 controllers on the 360. I gave you the proof, yet you still want to act like there is no proof, at this point you're looking like you're in serious denial and or damage control.

Plus originally you wanted an explanation on why there are so many 360 type controllers for the PS3, in reality we'll never know for a fact, I'd guess that lems looking to play something descent wanted to keep their controller type, while cows really don't have the need to play much on the 360.

I will tell you one thing that is definitely a fact, the PS3 has many more players, this is obvious, considering that the PS3 has sold somewhere around the same numbers as the 360, (in less time I might add) yet the 360 had a 23.7-33% failure rate up until 2009, gameinformer even put the failure rate at 52.4%, yet the PS3 had a 3%-10% failure rate. So considering that the market was flooded with 360s because of the failure rate, it would only be logical that there are more working PS3s out there then 360s, now I know some people and lems use an xbox style controller with the PS3, but when you consider that there are many more PS3s out there then 360s you would have to be nuts to think that more people use 360 controllers then PS3 controllers. Considering everything, I would have to agree with the poll that you ignored, It's about 50-50.

Sorry it's taking me so long to post, but work must be done.

Now I bet you'll reiterate your repetitive discourse for the umpteenth time to make yourself feel like you accomplished something, when in reality you've been spinning your wheels for quite some time now, but hay, whatever helps you sleep at night.

you cannot and have not proven me wrong, you say my wheels are spinning, but your tyres must be fully worn out after that post.

you claim to have owned "multiple" businesses, if that's true, either you are a failed owner or a successfull one. whichever, you should certainly know that if there is a gap in the market, someone will try and fill it, yet the demand for ds3 shaped controllers isn't there on 360

indeed sony have altered the ds4 considerably to be bigger than the current 360 one, which makes all you posts even more lol worthy. thanks for big post but you failed hours ago.

Yet you keep saying the same thing over and over after I proved you wrong.

You wanted proof that there are PS3 shaped controllers on the 360, and I proved it.

I have actually posted the proof that fills that gap in the market, but you cant even bring one ounce of proof yourself.

All you do is talk talk talk with no walk.

Once again you try to deflect by trying to insult me, but you still failed to answer why there's a market for PS3 controllers working on 360s when you keep saying there's not.

You are obviously a sad delusional troll that seriously needs psychological help.

You've been proved wrong time and time again, yet for some reason you can't except the truth.

Now you try to bring up the PS4 controller, which I never mentioned, obviously it looks to be the best controller this gen, which is perfect since it will be with the obviously best console, and it will be the best on PCs also.

Wow you are going down hard, trying to grab anything along the way, I never said once that the DS3 was great because it was smaller, what I did say was that I have large hands, and it works just fine, I'm sorry people like yourself have fragile weak hands that can't handle it (and obviously a weak mind also.) You know you really need to work on your reading comprehension.

Btw oh smart educated one, "tyres" is spelled tires, "successfull" is spelled successful, and "sony have altered" should be Sony has altered. 

Maybe you should be at school, instead of trolling with educated 38 year old's.

Wow you really seem to be butthurt that I've owned multiple businesses, is that because with your mentality you'd have a hard time getting a job flipping burgers.

I come over to the computer every once and a while and there you are, I post a reply and before I leave you have already responded. You do know it's Tuesday, you know a workday? Are you just sitting there all day staring at SW? You are a lem, why aren't you gaming, what no games on the 360 worth playing? Are you just one of those people who milk others and do nothing? Are you in your mommy's basement right now, mad at the world for being such an obvious pathetic loser that you're making yourself out to be?

Your starting to make me feel sorry for you, it's like I'm beating up a crippled little baby. You must be a special kind of dumbass, because I never participate in this kind of crap

Don't worry, I bet someday you'll be loved, then you can learn about honesty, compromise, sacrifice, humility, and when to quit before it all blows up in your face, taking all your pride with it, then shriveling up your ego like the tinny muscles in your fragile hands. It'll be alright.

I guess I'm going to have to keep this up till the thread is locked, because insecure kids like yourself need to know that you can't win everytime you lose an argument by saying the same BS over and over till the other person quits

Is this where I have a little false ego victory dance like an immature, insecure little kid, and write stuff like 'complete ownage', 'you failed', 'lmfao at your total failure'.

[QUOTE="CVG"]

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[QUOTE="CVG"]

What's widely considered the stand-out improvement, as detailed here, is the Impulse triggers. Alam and his team have shrunk rumble motors down to about one eighth of their previous size and scattered several of them across the pad, allowing for more subtle force feedback in localised parts of the controller.

In one FPS-style demo CVG played, firing a virtual pistol with the controller's right trigger resulted in simulated recoil occurring on just that part of the controller. In another demo, which had the same virtual hand magically spawn a fire ball, you could 'feel' the explosive projectile explode from the centre of the controller and out towards your fingers.

balfe1990

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More here.

It does look like a pretty perfect specimen, though I'm still quite baffled as to why they're using AAs instead of some fancy lithium solution. That would have rounded off any rough edges the controller has/had.

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I'll also say that MS have stated that the controller will be able to be used on PC "sometime in 2014".

A Microsoft spokesperson tells GamesBeat that while the Xbox One controller looks like the current Xbox 360 controller in many ways, the two dont share the same technology.

New wireless protocol, combined with the ability to work in wired mode, and the addition of features like Impulse triggers, means that new software has to be written and optimized for the PC, the Microsoft spokesperson says. There is also some work that we need to do to make sure that existing PC games that support the Xbox 360 controller will work with the Xbox One controller.

While it seems trivial, its actually quite a bit of dedicated work for all that to be seamless for the user.

The Xbox One controller reportedly has over 40 design improvements, including redesigned thumb sticks, remodeled triggers and bumpers, and the aforementioned impulse triggers that provide haptic feedback. It will work wirelessly, through standard AA batteries or rechargeables, or wired through a standard micro USB cable.

Microsoft says it expects PC compatibility will be functional sometime in 2014.

Gamesbeat

Further linkage re: PC compatibility here.

trigger impluse, GODLY.    cannot wait to get my hands on this beast.

LMAO and it almost looks like the original Xbox One controller. Money wasted confirmed.

Mrmedia01

to the people saying its "ridiculous" and "psychotic" and "just plain stupid" to spend 100 million on a controller, I have three things to say:

1: How can you say its stupid to spend that much money on something that when all you have to look at is the spending they do per year on R&D. its 9 billion dollars! you think MS cares about 100 million??? are you that dumb?

2: Even if xbox one sells 10 million consoles in the lifespan (which it will sell more obv) it has already made 5 billion dollars in sales?! so 100 mill really didnt "go to waste"

3: its not like YOU'RE spending 100 million on a controller, so why would you even care?

It looks about the same. :|

[QUOTE="sts106mat"]

[QUOTE="Ne-Plus-Ultra"]

And why would you want to emulate something that is perfect just the way it is.

Here is an image of a PS3 controller that will work on a 360

you can keep trying to save face, but sorry I'm right. I don't know why you want to use a knockoff on the PS3, I thought you liked the 360 controller? If I was going to play on the 360 though I would want a real PS3 controller.

And why the name calling? You do know that's a sign of someone who's loosing.

Ne-Plus-Ultra

EDIT - and lol at the URL on that picture "community redesign"  hahaha

Once again your opinions don't = facts, I don't know why lems have such a hard time with that one.

The community redesign picture is a real PS3 controller that's attached to an article about different design schemes. It would've been funny though if it was a knockoff.

Plus I still don't see how you think that multiple devices manufactured to allow DS3 to be used on xbox at the cost of real money from multiple corporations = no demand.

I've owned multiple businesses, and I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that these devices would not be on the market if there was no demand.

I guess you just don't want to except the fact that people want to use PS3 controllers on the 360. I gave you the proof, yet you still want to act like there is no proof, at this point you're looking like you're in serious denial and or damage control.

Plus originally you wanted an explanation on why there are so many 360 type controllers for the PS3, in reality we'll never know for a fact, I'd guess that lems looking to play something descent wanted to keep their controller type, while cows really don't have the need to play much on the 360.

I will tell you one thing that is definitely a fact, the PS3 has many more players, this is obvious, considering that the PS3 has sold somewhere around the same numbers as the 360, (in less time I might add) yet the 360 had a 23.7-33% failure rate up until 2009, gameinformer even put the failure rate at 52.4%, yet the PS3 had a 3%-10% failure rate. So considering that the market was flooded with 360s because of the failure rate, it would only be logical that there are more working PS3s out there then 360s, now I know some people and lems use an xbox style controller with the PS3, but when you consider that there are many more PS3s out there then 360s you would have to be nuts to think that more people use 360 controllers then PS3 controllers. Considering everything, I would have to agree with the poll that you ignored, It's about 50-50.

Sorry it's taking me so long to post, but work must be done.   

Now I bet you'll reiterate your repetitive discourse for the umpteenth time to make yourself feel like you accomplished something, when in reality you've been spinning your wheels for quite some time now, but hay, whatever helps you sleep at night.

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="sts106mat"] pathetic dude.sts106mat

 even more long winded replies with nothing of substance.. you still failed to prove me wrong....there are no PS3 style controllers on 360 manufactured for retail by third parties...yet there are quite a few available for the PS3, based on the 360 design.    an adapter and "fan made" controllers, obviously dont count.   if you cannot accept that what i originally said is correct, fine.  

PS you are wrong once more http://grammarist.com/spelling/tire-tyre/

i don't really worry about my spelling or grammar, particularly when using my smartphone (which i was when i posted the above)

sts106mat

Heres you go.

Also,Sony's patent on the DS3 will run out in 2028, so anyone who wants to make a PS style controller will have to get approval from Sony and pay licensing fees. 

https://www.google.com/patents/US20100311504?dq=sony+dualshock+3&hl=en&sa=X&ei=DigMUpveGar1iwKUvoDoBg&ved=0CEEQ6AEwAjgU