MW2 PC sold 290,000 copies, was pirated over 4 million times Ouch!

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#101 brandontwb
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="brandontwb"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] It isnt only steam there are numerous Digital Download services like that. Take into account that USA is behind in PC gaming from Europe or Asia those numbers are not legitimate at all. And who is that site anyway? People should report this thread for false information.

You can only download MW2 legally from Steam though.

Umm...Yeah? I'm saying that there are numerous services like Steam where you can buy your games, like Gamers Gate, Direct2Drive and more.

Well I thought we were talking about MW2 only.
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#102 p3anut
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Downloaded sales are not included like at Steam and D2D.

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#103 Brownesque
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http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Modern-Warfare-2-Boycotted-By-Direct2Drive-GamersGate-Impulse-20958.html

Headline: Modern Warfare 2 boycotted by Direct2Drive, Gamersgate, Impulse.

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#104 treedoor
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

Not that I am justifying piracy but... serves Activision right.

h575309

Not that I like Activision, but why? Just because PC gamers feel entitled? So because Activision charged $60 instead of $50, and didn't have dedicated servers, that gives 4 million people the right to steal their property? Two wrongs dont make a right, and this just perpetuates PC gaming's problems.

Specifically to make a point, I'm sure.

I heard of some people pirating it just to spite Activision, and inflate the piracy rates for the game.

I mean no other game comes close to the amount that this game was pirated. They did it because IW stabbed the fanbase in the back.

I'm with foxhound on this one. Serves them right. I wouldn't say that in any other circumstance.

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#105 Dataleak
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why would anyone Pirate such a horrible game?forza420

Why would anyone BUY such a horrible game? :lol:

[spoiler] Pwnt :P [/spoiler]

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#106 KungfuKitten
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If You want to show piracy numbers this is really the wrong game to use though. This is more a victory than a loss.

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#107 blizzle
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[QUOTE="forza420"]why would anyone Pirate such a horrible game?Dataleak

Why would anyone BUY such a horrible game? :lol:

Why would anyone waste even 5 minutes on this pos?

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#108 Kan0nF0dder
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[QUOTE="forza420"]why would anyone Pirate such a horrible game?Arach666
One can only wonder...

Atleast 1 million of those 4 did it just to kick activision in the balls. They probably hate the game too.
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#109 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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This numbers are wrong, I remember hearing Acti say they sold over a million within a few days of release. Hey look at BC2, it sold more on the pc then both consoles combined!
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#110 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

Not that I am justifying piracy but... serves Activision right.

treedoor

Not that I like Activision, but why? Just because PC gamers feel entitled? So because Activision charged $60 instead of $50, and didn't have dedicated servers, that gives 4 million people the right to steal their property? Two wrongs dont make a right, and this just perpetuates PC gaming's problems.

Specifically to make a point, I'm sure.

I heard of some people pirating it just to spite Activision, and inflate the piracy rates for the game.

I mean no other game comes close to the amount that this game was pirated. They did it because IW stabbed the fanbase in the back.

I'm with foxhound on this one. Serves them right. I wouldn't say that in any other circumstance.

Agreed. They pirated the game to make a point. And looking at the numbers on PC, I think they more than made it.
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#111 Silenthps
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sorry but this is a load of bull. Activision stated wayyyy back that MW2 PC outsold COD4 PC's total sales in a week. Its well into the millions by now, not 290k.
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#112 GTSaiyanjin2
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It has been the top selling game on steam for a few months now, so Im sure it has sold more than 290k. As of right now the Stimulus Package is #1 in steam, and #2 is MW2.

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#113 VendettaRed07
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Thats what they get for overcharging for dlc on pc.. and by that I mean charging more than zero dollars

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#114 Mr_Cumberdale
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Pretty sad. I think PC should not have any more games.
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#115 Birdy09
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[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="SamiRDuran"]thats impossible i've seen 200.000 active players at onceSLI_Gamer

it was pirated 4 million times, so yah

maybe he has seen them in infinity.net, without dedicated servers it shouldnt be possible.

But it is, (NO NOT PROMOTING LEAVE ME ALONE ! :P) .... one of the few FPS you can playo n official servers without a legit CD Key.... because IW.net was the biggest failure in existance.
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#116 rcignoni
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Good, it deserved it. Of course, that probably doesn't include Steam sales, which were probably the bulk of the sales.
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#117 RogueShodown
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You are an idiot if you were one of the millions who complained about the game and still pirated it. I'd rather look like a hypocrite by buying the game after bashing it rather than looking like an ass and a hypocrite. Of course, I'm happy that at least Activision didn't get much money out of this.
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#118 GeneralShowzer
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Pretty sad. I think PC should not have any more games.Mr_Cumberdale
That's why PC is getting the most exclusives with the highest budgets.
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#119 Mystic-G
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People complain about DRM, this is why it exist.

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So it can not stop piracy?
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#120 Arach666
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Pretty sad. I think PC should not have any more games.Mr_Cumberdale
Your hubris is appaling.
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#121 GeneralShowzer
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You are completely missing the point here? USA retail numbers mean ****. Activision were very happy with PC sales, and it's still in steams top ten. Maybe it's not ten million like Xbox version but it's somewhere arround two million which are pretty good numbers.

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#122 Teuf_
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[QUOTE="brandontwb"][QUOTE="muscleserge"]Thats retail, in US. I just checked STEAM and it is at the #2 spot in the top seller list, and has been in the top sellers since release, I bet it sold way more than that in US if one were to include DD sales into that figure.GeneralShowzer
This.... It also said RETAIL purchases, I doubt Steam DLs counted.

It isnt only steam there are numerous Digital Download services like that. Take into account that USA is behind in PC gaming from Europe or Asia those numbers are not legitimate at all. And who is that site anyway? People should report this thread for false information.



Calm down. The thread title just points out the information in the article. If you want to point out that there's other sources of sales then go ahead, but leave it at that.

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#123 telefanatic
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="brandontwb"]This.... It also said RETAIL purchases, I doubt Steam DLs counted.Teufelhuhn

It isnt only steam there are numerous Digital Download services like that. Take into account that USA is behind in PC gaming from Europe or Asia those numbers are not legitimate at all. And who is that site anyway? People should report this thread for false information.



Calm down. The thread title just points out the information in the article. If you want to point out that there's other sources of sales then go ahead, but leave it at that.

I like your Mass Effect 2 sig where did you get it ? On topic, Im sure the game has sold 2+ million on PC by now. Its probably some fanboy site reporting those fake numbers of retail only and not stating about DD sales. The game is horrible i bought it the retail version since i like to collect and own the boxes and what a waste of money it is.

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#124 deactivated-5ef52b89b6fd0
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Also...stumbled across this earlier http://www.joystiq.com/2010/05/10/one-quarter-of-humble-indie-bundle-downloads-were-pirated/Ravensmash

:lol: they have no shame at all!!!!! Stealing from charities.:lol:

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#125 -ArchAngeL-777-
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Funny how the bad guys are the ones enforcing DRM or Sony removing other OS. You look at the money lost here and realize that piracy is a much bigger problem.
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#126 deactivated-5ef52b89b6fd0
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You are completely missing the point here? USA retail numbers mean ****. Activision were very happy with PC sales, and it's still in steams top ten. Maybe it's not ten million like Xbox version but it's somewhere arround two million which are pretty good numbers.

GeneralShowzer

Not going to bother reading back pages, but are you defending or downplaying piraiting, after arguing all day yesterday about mp having a activation code that will hurt used game sales?

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#127 Arach666
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="brandontwb"]This.... It also said RETAIL purchases, I doubt Steam DLs counted.Teufelhuhn

It isnt only steam there are numerous Digital Download services like that. Take into account that USA is behind in PC gaming from Europe or Asia those numbers are not legitimate at all. And who is that site anyway? People should report this thread for false information.



Calm down. The thread title just points out the information in the article. If you want to point out that there's other sources of sales then go ahead, but leave it at that.

This thread was created to bash the PC and focus only on a very small number of sales report while blatantly omiting every other possible sales source(DD and retail on all other countries in the world) just for ownage.

But that´s not trolling?

Bah,I´ve been moded for much less than this.

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#129 Teuf_
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This thread was created to bash the PC and focus only on a very small number of sales report while blatantly omiting every other possible sales source(DD and retail on all other countries in the world) just for ownage.

But that´s not trolling?

Bah,I´ve been moded for much less than this.

Arach666



He posted an article, which quoted the only sales statistic we have for the PC version of Modern Warfare 2. It wasn't even from a non-name website, it was from Wired magazine.

I don't even see how he's bashing the PC, he even said "Get ready to see a lot more DRM and anti-piracy efforts in the next generation of console and PC games".

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#130 Killfox
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I summarize why this thread fails. First of this is 'retail sales' I havent bought a game at retail stores in years. Second, this isnt worldwide. Stop trying to make it sound like its worldwide when its clearly not. Third, these sales are, again, 'retail sales' this does not include steam or any other DD service which is where a majority of PC sales come from. And no im not condoning piracy.
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#131 ogvampire
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Funny how the bad guys are the ones enforcing DRM or Sony removing other OS. You look at the money lost here and realize that piracy is a much bigger problem.-ArchAngeL-777-

true, but DRM is a TERRIBLE (especially from Ubisoft) idea... all it does it create hassles for legit buyers and gives the publisher WAY too much control of the product you lawfully bought

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#132 Mark36111
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I thought PC gaming was supposed to be cheaper than console gaming. Why don't PC gamers have enough of teh monies to buy MW2 for $60 instead of pirating it?
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#133 lundy86_4
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I thought PC gaming was supposed to be cheaper than console gaming. Why don't PC gamers have enough of teh monies to buy MW2 for $60 instead of pirating it?Mark36111

Many bought it through direct download (Steam etc), which isn't reflected in the total sales figures.

Also, those download numbers do not equal total sales lost, ie, a full 4 million.

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#134 GioVela2010
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Wow that is horrible! PC Gaming dies a little more every day, and we have nobody to blame but ourselves

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[QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"]Funny how the bad guys are the ones enforcing DRM or Sony removing other OS. You look at the money lost here and realize that piracy is a much bigger problem.ogvampire

true, but DRM is a TERRIBLE (especially from Ubisoft) idea... all it does it create hassles for legit buyers and gives the publisher WAY too much control of the product you lawfully bought

I agree completely, but what else are the developers supposed to do? They are not the ones stealing the games the public are, they have to do something, sucks us legit buyers get punished for it but thats how it is. At work if some dumb*** steals company time or tools or wreaks something, WE ALL GET PUNISHED as a whole by corporate, by new rules that are put in place to try and make sure it dosent happen again.

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#136 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"]Funny how the bad guys are the ones enforcing DRM or Sony removing other OS. You look at the money lost here and realize that piracy is a much bigger problem.Advid-Gamer

true, but DRM is a TERRIBLE (especially from Ubisoft) idea... all it does it create hassles for legit buyers and gives the publisher WAY too much control of the product you lawfully bought

I agree completely, but what else are the developers supposed to do? They are not the ones stealing the games the public are, they have to do something, sucks us legit buyers get punished for it but thats how it is. At work if some dumb*** steals company time or tools or wreaks something, WE ALL GET PUNISHED as a whole by corporate, by new rules that are put in place to try and make sure it dosent happen again.

what are companies supposed to do? i dont know, if they put me on the payroll i would try to figure something out instead of this 'draconian' (as pc gamer puts it) DRM that they have installed in PC games

its so bad, that PC gamer magazine does not recommend ANY game that has Ubisoft's DRM

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#137 forza420
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[QUOTE="forza420"]why would anyone Pirate such a horrible game?Dataleak

Why would anyone BUY such a horrible game? :lol:

lol good point. :lol:

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#138 InfinityMugen
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PC gaming isn't dying.

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#139 dontshackzmii
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just because you dont like what they did to the game gives pc gamers no right to steal peoples hard work. if you dont like what they did dont buy it. if you hate it so bad why are you stealing it?

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#140 GeneralShowzer
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just because you dont like what they did to the game gives pc gamers no right to steal peoples hard work. if you dont like what they did dont buy it. if you hate it so bad why are you stealing it?

dontshackzmii
People who pirate it don't hate it. MW2 was insanely popular. Sales were very high, and so was piracy. On PC and on the 360 too. 260, 000 is an NPD number which has zero credibility when it comes to PC gaming.
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#142 WilliamRLBaker
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Not that I am justifying piracy but... serves Activision right.

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why is that?
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#143 Arach666
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

Not that I am justifying piracy but... serves Activision right.

WilliamRLBaker

why is that?

If you have to ask,then it´s because you don´t know much about PC gaming.

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#144 Dataleak
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just because you dont like what they did to the game gives pc gamers no right to steal peoples hard work. if you dont like what they did dont buy it. if you hate it so bad why are you stealing it?

dontshackzmii

360 owners stole almost 1 million copies. I really wish people would also include the DS, Wii and 360 when discussing piracy.

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#145 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"] If you have to ask,then it´s because you don´t know much about PC gaming.

Arach666
or you could just answer instead of skirting around it. why do they deserve it?

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

just because you dont like what they did to the game gives pc gamers no right to steal peoples hard work. if you dont like what they did dont buy it. if you hate it so bad why are you stealing it?

Dataleak

360 owners stole almost 1 million copies. I really wish people would also include the DS, Wii and 360 when discussing piracy.

proof to that affect?
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#146 Dataleak
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] or you could just answer instead of skirting around it. why do they deserve it? [QUOTE="Dataleak"]

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

just because you dont like what they did to the game gives pc gamers no right to steal peoples hard work. if you dont like what they did dont buy it. if you hate it so bad why are you stealing it?

WilliamRLBaker

360 owners stole almost 1 million copies. I really wish people would also include the DS, Wii and 360 when discussing piracy.

proof to that affect?

Quoted from the website the OP posted.

MicrosoftMethod of attack: Hackers remove the Xbox 360's DVD drive and tweak the OS to permit the use of "backup copies." For PC titles, they circumvent copy protections and share them on torrent sites.
Most-pirated titles:Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (PC), 4.1 million copies; (Xbox 360), 970,000 copies

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#147 lundy86_4
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proof to that affect?WilliamRLBaker

Link

This is similar to what Torrentfreak used with the PC version, by just counting # of copies downloaded. 360 version topped it's list with 970,000.

Neither offers solid numbers of piracy rates.

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#148 mo0ksi
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While Activision should have considered the backlash with the PC community, that is a pretty pitiful ratio.
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#149 Dataleak
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While Activision should have considered the backlash with the PC community, that is a pretty pitiful ratio.mo0ksi

It is shameful, but it's pretty obvious that half of those pirated were due to spite Activision and IW due to lack of dedicated servers. What's even more shameful is that 970,000 Xbox 360 users pirated it for no apparent reason other then being selfish ****s.

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#150 Arach666
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or you could just answer instead of skirting around it.
why do they deserve it?

WilliamRLBaker

You mean a game that was stripped down of most of it´s features just so it could be equal to the inferior version?

When you do that,that´s what happens. When you do a proper PC game(Crysis for instance,sold around 2 million copies retail ONLY,and it´s not even close to the PC best sellers...)things like this don´t happen,never at this scale.