N64 has better Nintendo games than Wii? BULL

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

[QUOTE="Eponique"] Is this the only argument SMG lovers have? The argument was only a few pages back; there are plenty of reasons to like SM64 over SMG and nostalgia has very little to do with it.

VendettaRed07

Both the controls andcamera are incredibly unwieldy

idk about that.. Those were the only two things that I think SM64 did better than Galaxy. I don't like galaxys camera because it takes away from the platforming. Having the character be larger on the screen makes the jumping feel better, and more immersive.. I feel like I am jumping along with mario, where as in Galaxy I am just watching mario hop around... And the levels in mario 64 are pretty open so there wasn't any points other than just the few that took place in really small areas where I had camera issues...

And idk, I thought the controls were some of the best ever in Mario 64.. I mean after playing it for so long I could literally fly through every level backwards without breaking a sweat.. The momentum system that changed your jumping was awesome... I loved just running back and forth and doings summersaults and backflips jumping off of walls.. I loved how loose it was, I always felt in total control of mario.. Where in Super Mario Galaxy the controls are a bit too tight and restrictive. Marios max running speed is a bit slow, and I feel I have to try too hard do flips.. Like I will only be able to do a summersault 3/5 times I try to do it because its so strict about the timing. Plus I wasn't really a big fan of the mid air spin, in a game about platforming it made it waaayy too easy.. But without using it the controls feel too tight and restrictive..

The level design is so much better that I am ok with it but if Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 had the focused camera and loose controls of Mario 64 it would pretty much be the best game ever.

That's not why SM64 was difficult for me :? I naturally found the enemies harder and it was easier to die. And SMG's motion controls are just as much of a problem. Eponique

[QUOTE="p4s2p0"]N64 wasn't' on top in graphics back then xbox was.Eponique

[QUOTE="p4s2p0"]N64 wasn't' on top in graphics back then xbox was.Eponique

Hahaha, I read this post and was like "wait... what?". Then I read the quoted text and I lol'ed.

I agree with TC, the Wii got its fair share of outstanding games. It tends to get bad press on these forums due to the 360 and PS3 fans who're so proud of their so-called "HD".. OF course, when you bring up PC graphics, suddenly the same idiots say graphics don't matter...

To end this SMG vs SM64 debate you have , even i never was an owner of any nintendo system since atari 2600 where i became an active gamer , and be honest here ill tell you this.

SM64 was a REVOLUTIONARY 3D platform game when SMG was a solid platform game. Who wins between 2?

I go with the revolutionary/evolutionary/innovative , whatever you call it game which is easily SM64. I hope most of gamers debating about which game is better to actually be old gamers and know what they talking about.

As far as third party support? --> N64

As far as controller innovation --> N64

As far as hardware capabilities --> N64

As far as overall scoring ---> N64 too many AAA games compared to Wii.

And ofcourse we cant compare directly N64 vs Wii... N64 is 2 generations older than Wii. So we need to compare what the one offered more than the other at its time and VS competition. And N64 destroys Wii is almost everything i can think of except internet play and lack of CD/DvD. Nothing more.

To end this SMG vs SM64 debate you have , even i never was an owner of any nintendo system since atari 2600 where i became an active gamer , and be honest here ill tell you this.

SM64 was a REVOLUTIONARY 3D platform game when SMG was a solid platform game. Who wins between 2?

I go with the revolutionary/evolutionary/innovative , whatever you call it game which is easily SM64. I hope most of gamers debating about which game is better to actually be old gamers and know what they talking about.

As far as third party support? --> N64

As far as controller innovation --> N64

As far as hardware capabilities --> N64

As far as overall scoring ---> N64 too many AAA games compared to Wii.

And ofcourse we cant compare directly N64 vs Wii... N64 is 2 generations older than Wii. So we need to compare what the one offered more than the other at its time and VS competition. And N64 destroys Wii is almost everything i can think of except internet play and lack of CD/DvD. Nothing more.

AzatiS

Wii is their worst system by far in 3 gens, if it's the best than that says alot of bad things about their past systems.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

You do realize you're comparing a 15 year old game that ran on much worse hardware to a modern game, rite?

For it's time, SM64 was a revolution whereas SMG, altho an excellent platformer, is just an evolution.

Eponique

So what? Why are people so caught up in how "revoltuionary" something is over how well it played and how good it was. I never thought SM64 was a great game and especially now I know I wasn't wrong. SMG is not going to age so poorly, it is a genuinely good game. Frankly 64 and sunshine are the weakest titles in the Mario series. The original has aged better than those 2 games and their 25 years old. In this day and age I care about great games, not landmarks or revolutions.

Uh no you can't, SMG has superior controls, a superior camera and more fluid gameplay. If you prefer M64 that's cool but the 2 games are leaps and bounds apart when it comes to how poorly mechanics will age ad which game has no mechanical flaws that make it a chore. You can argue differences between like and dislike, you can't sit here and try to tell me that SM64 is up the standard in terms of controls and camera vs the galaxy games or platformer in general from the last 10 years. Its not and if you remove your nostalgia glasses you'll realize its pretty damn annoying.

To end this SMG vs SM64 debate you have , even i never was an owner of any nintendo system since atari 2600 where i became an active gamer , and be honest here ill tell you this.

SM64 was a REVOLUTIONARY 3D platform game when SMG was a solid platform game. Who wins between 2?

AzatiS

The one that hasn't aged like crap?

Has everyone forgotten that the TC is talking about 1st party games and 1st party games alone? Why are yall bringing up the entire library?

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"] you're the only idiot who's laughing here.

Anyone who doesn't have their nostalgia goggles on max settings can see that SMG/SMG2 are superior in almost every category.Eponique

Its not about like here, you can prefer w/e you want, no one is telling you to change your opinion. But in this day and age the N64 titles especially SM64 are behind the times and not up to the standard of other titles from the last 10 years. Its not even an age thing because you can take a 2D game like Sonic and Knuckles, Ristar, Yoshi's Island, Chrono Trigger etc and find that they are still not being completely outclassed in terms of design and mechanics to their newer counterparts in this decade. You have your Super Meat boys and your Limbos but there aren't doing anything to degrade how well those games were designed and most important how well they stand up mechanically and control wise. Anyone who has played SMG realizes SM64 plays like ass.

I never really cared for SM64, Though I absolutely love SMG 1 and 2.

[QUOTE="AzatiS"]

To end this SMG vs SM64 debate you have , even i never was an owner of any nintendo system since atari 2600 where i became an active gamer , and be honest here ill tell you this.

SM64 was a REVOLUTIONARY 3D platform game when SMG was a solid platform game. Who wins between 2?

Shinobishyguy

The one that hasn't aged like crap?

To end this SMG vs SM64 debate you have , even i never was an owner of any nintendo system since atari 2600 where i became an active gamer , and be honest here ill tell you this.

SM64 was a REVOLUTIONARY 3D platform game when SMG was a solid platform game. Who wins between 2?

I go with the revolutionary/evolutionary/innovative , whatever you call it game which is easily SM64. I hope most of gamers debating about which game is better to actually be old gamers and know what they talking about.

As far as third party support? --> N64

As far as controller innovation --> N64

As far as hardware capabilities --> N64

As far as overall scoring ---> N64 too many AAA games compared to Wii.

And ofcourse we cant compare directly N64 vs Wii... N64 is 2 generations older than Wii. So we need to compare what the one offered more than the other at its time and VS competition. And N64 destroys Wii is almost everything i can think of except internet play and lack of CD/DvD. Nothing more.

AzatiS

It was a revolution but it wasn't very good. As someone who started gaming on the SNES (as in no I'm not an ancient all wise gamer who has been there from the start), playing SM64 after all my tight as hell genesis and SNES platformer found SM64 to be a HUGE step BACKWARDS from everything I wanted from a platformer.

Anyway as far as this thread is concerned its strictly first party offering in which the Wii has a pretty clear advantage in games that both play well and will age well.

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

[QUOTE="AzatiS"]

To end this SMG vs SM64 debate you have , even i never was an owner of any nintendo system since atari 2600 where i became an active gamer , and be honest here ill tell you this.

SM64 was a REVOLUTIONARY 3D platform game when SMG was a solid platform game. Who wins between 2?

nintendoboy16

The one that hasn't aged like crap?

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

The one that hasn't aged like crap?

Shinobishyguy

Games like Spyro and Crash Bandicoot aged better. A lot better. Same with Klonoa. You don't even need to use the galaxy games to win this debate.

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] I thought SM64 aged well.ActicEdge

Games like Spyro and Crash Bandicoot aged better. A lot better. Same with Klonoa. You don't even need to use the galaxy games to win this debate.

Besides Mario 64 being awesome I also wanted to add that Banjo-Kazooie and Tooie were also really great and better then Galaxy 1 and 2.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"] Better than most 3d games from that time period, but that's not really saying much. it may have been the first really good game in 3d, but if you pair them together the galaxy games wipe the floor with it in terms of polish and level creativity.mitu123

Games like Spyro and Crash Bandicoot aged better. A lot better. Same with Klonoa. You don't even need to use the galaxy games to win this debate.

I adore Spyro, the second one was my favourite platformer from that generation (collectathons be damned).

Uh no you can't, SMG has superior controls, a superior camera and more fluid gameplay. If you prefer M64 that's cool but the 2 games are leaps and bounds apart when it comes to how poorly mechanics will age ad which game has no mechanical flaws that make it a chore. You can argue differences between like and dislike, you can't sit here and try to tell me that SM64 is up the standard in terms of controls and camera vs the galaxy games or platformer in general from the last 10 years. Its not and if you remove your nostalgia glasses you'll realize its pretty damn annoying.

ActicEdge

I'd argue that SM64 hate has more to do with "nostalgia" because it sounds like a lot of you haven't played the game recently. It's aged terrifically and it's still very fun to play. There aren't many 3D platformers like it.

Has everyone forgotten that the TC is talking about 1st party games and 1st party games alone? Why are yall bringing up the entire library?

Ragnarok1051

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Uh no you can't, SMG has superior controls, a superior camera and more fluid gameplay. If you prefer M64 that's cool but the 2 games are leaps and bounds apart when it comes to how poorly mechanics will age ad which game has no mechanical flaws that make it a chore. You can argue differences between like and dislike, you can't sit here and try to tell me that SM64 is up the standard in terms of controls and camera vs the galaxy games or platformer in general from the last 10 years. Its not and if you remove your nostalgia glasses you'll realize its pretty damn annoying.

Eponique

I'd argue that SM64 hate has more to do with "nostalgia" because it sounds like a lot of you haven't played the game recently. It's aged terrifically and it's still very fun to play. There aren't many 3D platformers like it.

I'm not exagerating, I don't exagerate since I can generally play through anything. That camera sucks and the controls suck too. everyone's experience with the motion in Galaxy varies so I won't say you're right or wrong. I'll just say I didn't find the motion in Galaxy awful, it was pretty simple to use and it worked for me. I know some people had trouble with it but meh, I don't suck at tilting a controller I suppose.

Anyway, in this day and age I refuse to play SM64, its not fun and its not up to the standard of games in this time frame. I'm not gonna break out a game I don't like just so it can underwhelm me more.

I love how incredibly polite everything remains in here, nobody saying cuss words, no insults, no personal attacks, nothing. I expected this place to be turned upside down immediately after the changes in the terms of use but everything has been kept the way it was before, it appears. Lovely, i expected things to heat up fast in this thread but i was wrong :)

I found SMG's camera to be annoying at times. I definitely felt nauseated throughout a good amount of my play time. While I don't think the N64 tops the Wii in first party games (I disliked OoT and there was no Metroid or Fire Emblem on the N64), I definitely think the GameCube does (even though the Wii has Xenoblade). I had way more fun with Melee, Wind Waker, Path of Radiance, and the first 2 Prime's than their respective Wii counterparts.

I love how incredibly polite everything remains in here, nobody saying cuss words, no insults, no personal attacks, nothing. I expected this place to be turned upside down immediately after the changes in the terms of use but everything has been kept the way it was before, it appears. Lovely, i expected things to heat up fast in this thread but i was wrong :)

AgentA-Mi6

Rofl you've been gone too long. This place has become a pool for ignorance more so than before.

The good thing about all these is that you can buy many N64 games via Wii's VC and see for yourself whether the N64 era was really better or not.

[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]

I love how incredibly polite everything remains in here, nobody saying cuss words, no insults, no personal attacks, nothing. I expected this place to be turned upside down immediately after the changes in the terms of use but everything has been kept the way it was before, it appears. Lovely, i expected things to heat up fast in this thread but i was wrong :)

ActicEdge

Rofl you've been gone too long. This place has become a pool for ignorance more so than before.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]

I love how incredibly polite everything remains in here, nobody saying cuss words, no insults, no personal attacks, nothing. I expected this place to be turned upside down immediately after the changes in the terms of use but everything has been kept the way it was before, it appears. Lovely, i expected things to heat up fast in this thread but i was wrong :)

nintendoboy16

Rofl you've been gone too long. This place has become a pool for ignorance more so than before.

Very possible. Ya never know these days though.

[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]

I love how incredibly polite everything remains in here, nobody saying cuss words, no insults, no personal attacks, nothing. I expected this place to be turned upside down immediately after the changes in the terms of use but everything has been kept the way it was before, it appears. Lovely, i expected things to heat up fast in this thread but i was wrong :)

ActicEdge

Rofl you've been gone too long. This place has become a pool for ignorance more so than before.

[QUOTE="Eponique"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Uh no you can't, SMG has superior controls, a superior camera and more fluid gameplay. If you prefer M64 that's cool but the 2 games are leaps and bounds apart when it comes to how poorly mechanics will age ad which game has no mechanical flaws that make it a chore. You can argue differences between like and dislike, you can't sit here and try to tell me that SM64 is up the standard in terms of controls and camera vs the galaxy games or platformer in general from the last 10 years. Its not and if you remove your nostalgia glasses you'll realize its pretty damn annoying.

ActicEdge

I'd argue that SM64 hate has more to do with "nostalgia" because it sounds like a lot of you haven't played the game recently. It's aged terrifically and it's still very fun to play. There aren't many 3D platformers like it.

I'm not exagerating, I don't exagerate since I can generally play through anything. That camera sucks and the controls suck too. everyone's experience with the motion in Galaxy varies so I won't say you're right or wrong. I'll just say I didn't find the motion in Galaxy awful, it was pretty simple to use and it worked for me. I know some people had trouble with it but meh, I don't suck at tilting a controller I suppose.

Anyway, in this day and age I refuse to play SM64, its not fun and its not up to the standard of games in this time frame. I'm not gonna break out a game I don't like just so it can underwhelm me more.

I don't think that Galaxies controls are all that great. I hate how there is no momentum in mario's runs and jumps. Its so restrictive. I'll only be able to do a summersault or a long jump 3/5 times I try to do them because it is so finicky about the timing of it, where as just by the position of mario's body and because he builds up speed when he runs I the move I try to do every single time. When you jump in Galaxy, the second he hits the ground the speed and movement from his previous jump is completely forgotten and you have to start over again which makes platforming more restrictive. I mean, Nintendo knew this thats why they put in that mid air spin move, which completely breaks it as a platformer almost.. Because platforming is all about percising timing and good direction, which you don't need in galaxy because if your jump was off or miss timed you can spin the controller and it is crazy how much it allows you to redirect yourself..

Also I like the camera in 64 because it captures the action better, I feel like I am jumping with mario rather than watching him jump around.. My favorite level in Galaxy 2 is the level where you slide down the wooden tree because I feel sucked into it because the camera is right in there, close on the action. I wish the whole game atleast gave you the option to have that viewpoint. Yeah, in 64, it occasionally got lost in tight places but it isn't like it made the game unplayable.. I'd prefer it being close on the character, and it getting a bit lost every now and then, rather than it being zoomed really far out to the point where I have a difficult time being immersed in the action.

I still think Galaxy 2 is the over all better game than 64 but these are things that I prefered how Mario 64 did it.

Yeh plus backwards compatability to play Gamecube games.

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

Why do people always jump to this? Nobody is denying what SM64 was for its time. We are simply comparing two games as they are today. If we are talking about how important Mario games are for their time then original SMB>>>>>all.

Wiimotefan

Well comparing them side to side is kinda unfair, don't you agree? One is 15 years old and runs on considerably worse hardware while the other is a modern, full-priced game. But if you want to play that card - SM64 has more exploration and more open worlds than SMG does.

Of course its unfair, but I'm not the one that brought this argument to the table. If someone is going to tell me that SM64 is better than SMG/SMG2 I'm going to tell them what I think. The discussion was not "which game had more impact for its time".

I don't even know what you're getting at with exploration and openness in SM64. Are you trying to say that makes it a better game? I can list games from the NES with more openness and exploration than SM64, but that doesn't make them any better or worse.

What if he, you know, simply likes SM64 better? After all, game quality is debatable ;)

And yea, the NES surely had many open-world 3D games :P

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Well comparing them side to side is kinda unfair, don't you agree? One is 15 years old and runs on considerably worse hardware while the other is a modern, full-priced game. But if you want to play that card - SM64 has more exploration and more open worlds than SMG does.

nameless12345

Of course its unfair, but I'm not the one that brought this argument to the table. If someone is going to tell me that SM64 is better than SMG/SMG2 I'm going to tell them what I think. The discussion was not "which game had more impact for its time".

I don't even know what you're getting at with exploration and openness in SM64. Are you trying to say that makes it a better game? I can list games from the NES with more openness and exploration than SM64, but that doesn't make them any better or worse.

What if he, you know, simply likes SM64 better? After all, game quality is debatable ;)

And yea, the NES surely had many open-world 3D games :P

There is nothing wrong with liking a game more. I like Final Fantasy IV more than Final Fantasy XIII, but I know without a doubt that Final Fantasy XIII is a much better game. Quality is only debate-able to a certain extent. In cases like this were the difference is painfully obvious, it is not. Would you say that there is room for debate comparing MK1 to MK9? Bubsy 3d and Banjo Tooie? Hell no.

And again, you are just being random on your second point. Please clarify. You never mentioned 3d in your previous post, so how should I know? You made a random statement that supports nothing and has nothing to do with the discussion.

"Well comparing them side to side is kinda unfair, don't you agree? One is 15 years old and runs on considerably worse hardware while the other is a modern, full-priced game. But if you want to play that card - SM64 has more exploration and more open worlds thanSMGdoes."

Please tell me what that has to do with anything?

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

Of course its unfair, but I'm not the one that brought this argument to the table. If someone is going to tell me that SM64 is better than SMG/SMG2 I'm going to tell them what I think. The discussion was not "which game had more impact for its time".

I don't even know what you're getting at with exploration and openness in SM64. Are you trying to say that makes it a better game? I can list games from the NES with more openness and exploration than SM64, but that doesn't make them any better or worse.

Wiimotefan

What if he, you know, simply likes SM64 better? After all, game quality is debatable ;)

And yea, the NES surely had many open-world 3D games :P

There is nothing wrong with liking a game more. I like Final Fantasy IV more than Final Fantasy XIII, but I know without a doubt that Final Fantasy XIII is a much better game. Quality is only debate-able to a certain extent. In cases like this were the difference is painfully obvious, it is not. Would you say that there is room for debate comparing MK1 to MK9? Bubsy 3d and Banjo Tooie? Hell no.

Well yes, if you really wanted so you could compare MK1 to MK9 and Bubsy 3D to B-T. There is no objective truth when it comes to game quality. You might consider MK1 to be vastly inferior to MK9 and Bubsy 3D vastly better than B-T but it's your perspective in the end.

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

What if he, you know, simply likes SM64 better? After all, game quality is debatable ;)

And yea, the NES surely had many open-world 3D games :P

nameless12345

There is nothing wrong with liking a game more. I like Final Fantasy IV more than Final Fantasy XIII, but I know without a doubt that Final Fantasy XIII is a much better game. Quality is only debate-able to a certain extent. In cases like this were the difference is painfully obvious, it is not. Would you say that there is room for debate comparing MK1 to MK9? Bubsy 3d and Banjo Tooie? Hell no.

Well yes, if you really wanted so you could compare MK1 to MK9 and Bubsy 3D to B-T. There is no objective truth when it comes to game quality. You might consider MK1 to be vastly inferior to MK9 and Bubsy 3D vastly better than B-T but it's your perspective in the end.

lol ok.

ET on the 2600 is the best game ever made.

/thread.

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AgentA-Mi6

Whatever you say dumbass

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

There is nothing wrong with liking a game more. I like Final Fantasy IV more than Final Fantasy XIII, but I know without a doubt that Final Fantasy XIII is a much better game. Quality is only debate-able to a certain extent. In cases like this were the difference is painfully obvious, it is not. Would you say that there is room for debate comparing MK1 to MK9? Bubsy 3d and Banjo Tooie? Hell no.

Wiimotefan

Well yes, if you really wanted so you could compare MK1 to MK9 and Bubsy 3D to B-T. There is no objective truth when it comes to game quality. You might consider MK1 to be vastly inferior to MK9 and Bubsy 3D vastly better than B-T but it's your perspective in the end.

lol ok.

ET on the 2600 is the best game ever made.

/thread.

If you say so :P

Rares old games > any Nintendo 1st party game.Banjo_Kongfooie

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]Rares old games > any Nintendo 1st party game.AgentA-Mi6

Nah the N64 had a way bigger & superior library. You named like 6 titles. Just look at the list for the entire N64 library. Look on Youtube for videos of huge N64 collections. You have forgotten every other great title that existed on N64. Almostevery single game on the n64 is a classic. Ican think of 1 miillion great games& only one bad game on the 64 (Superman).

Just look over the list of games on the 64 & maybeyou will remember how many of those games were good. There has never been a libarary of titles as good as the 64s. Period.

Favorite Nintendo 64 games that comes to mind...

Jet Force Gemini,

StarFox 64

Mario 64

Diddy Kong Racing

Golden Eye 007

Perfect Dark

Zelda OOT

Zelda MM

Mario Kart 64

Banjo Tooie

Banjo Kazooie

Kirby 64

F-zero X

Yoshi Story

and of course, StarCraft 64

[QUOTE="Aquaunitpatrol"][QUOTE="heeeeeeeeeweeee"] The N64 easily had more than 15 great games. :|DarkLink77

Majora's Mask

Ocarina of Time

Star Wars: Rogue Squadron

Star Wars: Episode 1 Racer

Star Fox 64

Super Mario 64

Pokemon Stadium

Pokemon Stadium 2

Conker's Bad Fur Day

Banjo Kazooie

Banjo Tooie

Donkey Kong 64

Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards

1080 Snowboarding

Wave Race 64

Super Smash Brothers

Mario Kart 64

Paper Mario

F-Zero X

More than fifteen, and I didn't list GoldenEye or Perfect Dark or Turok or Shadows of the Empire or any number of great games that the system had. Admittedly, GoldenEye and Perfect Dark suck now because of the controls, but FPS games that hold up more than a decade after release are rare anyway.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="Aquaunitpatrol"] That you can't list. I will probably see the sameeneric 8 on every other N64 list and see people scrounge the barrel for the other 7.Aquaunitpatrol

Majora's Mask

Ocarina of Time

Star Wars: Rogue Squadron

Star Wars: Episode 1 Racer

Star Fox 64

Super Mario 64

Pokemon Stadium

Pokemon Stadium 2

Conker's Bad Fur Day

Banjo Kazooie

Banjo Tooie

Donkey Kong 64

Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards

1080 Snowboarding

Wave Race 64

Super Smash Brothers

Mario Kart 64

Paper Mario

F-Zero X

More than fifteen, and I didn't list GoldenEye or Perfect Dark or Turok or Shadows of the Empire or any number of great games that the system had. Admittedly, GoldenEye and Perfect Dark suck now because of the controls, but FPS games that hold up more than a decade after release are rare anyway.

Somebody get this child to an elementary school English class quick!

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="Aquaunitpatrol"] That you can't list. I will probably see the sameeneric 8 on every other N64 list and see people scrounge the barrel for the other 7.Aquaunitpatrol

Majora's Mask

Ocarina of Time

Star Wars: Rogue Squadron

Star Wars: Episode 1 Racer

Star Fox 64

Super Mario 64

Pokemon Stadium

Pokemon Stadium 2

Conker's Bad Fur Day

Banjo Kazooie

Banjo Tooie

Donkey Kong 64

Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards

1080 Snowboarding

Wave Race 64

Super Smash Brothers

Mario Kart 64

Paper Mario

F-Zero X

More than fifteen, and I didn't list GoldenEye or Perfect Dark or Turok or Shadows of the Empire or any number of great games that the system had. Admittedly, GoldenEye and Perfect Dark suck now because of the controls, but FPS games that hold up more than a decade after release are rare anyway.

star wars shadows of the empire on n64 was one of the best star wars game ever was amazing as **** seeing it the first time.

1080 isnt a bad snowboarding game.