Name five things that consoles do better than pcs...

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[QUOTE="Cow4ever"] U see I winDarkBloodPrince

Also i think your argument about steams sales not being a good thing is silly. You dont have to buy games that you arent going to play, thats your choice you cant call it a con. I bought

i agree mods are awesome sometimes it is better than the DLC the devoloper gives us

Also look at what mods gave us. Counter strike, Team fortress, Day of defeat, and DOTA just to name a few

Pretty much everything except graphics.

slipknot0129

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1. They work
2. Nintendo
3. No keyboard & mouse
4. Not succeptable to virus'
5. They don't piss me off

Your a gamer. The rivalry is sweet and all but it really can be limiting if you want to experience a wide berth of games. Nintendo has a ton of great "non serious" games that are fun to pick up and play. The PS3 and 360 are really just two brothers, the may have a few individual quirks but generally ofter the same type of experience. That being said they both have a good number of games that are not available on PC that are well worth the price of admission.

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Basically, consoles don't need to do something better, they need to offer games, which they do.designer-

wow that is just wow :o

dood your AWESOME

Local multiplayer

Instant play - less issues like driver incompatibility

Lower hardware cost for consumers

Standardized hardware - software can be optimized for specific hardware

Standard controllers - games are designed with specific controllers in mind, which are functional and ergonomic

[QUOTE="Cow4ever"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

Cool story bro.

jettpack

Also i think your argument about steams sales not being a good thing is silly. You dont have to buy games that you arent going to play, thats your choice you cant call it a con. I once saw over 50 games for 50 dollars in a bundle on sale once on steam. TELL ME THAT ISNT AMAZING.

Also i would argue PCs exclusives are better (we definately have 10X more of them) but who has the best exclusives is really about personal taste.

Local multiplayer

Instant play - less issues like driver incompatibility

Lower hardware cost for consumers

Standardized hardware - software can be optimized for specific hardware

Standard controllers - games are designed with specific controllers in mind, which are functional and ergonomic

ActionRemix

And is "functional and ergonomic" meant to be used as a pro for console controllers over PC controls? Do you think keyboard/mouse isn't functional or ergonomic? If not then why don't the hundreds of thousands of businesses in the world use Xbox 360 controllers to conduct their business?Ly_the_Fairy

console is cheaper, plug and play, more splitscreen games, motion controllers.. well that was at least four. saying games would be silly lol

Local multiplayer, nuff said. Yes, you can go LAN on the PC, but nothing beats the feeling of trash talking friends playing in the same room together.hiphops_savior

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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

So,by playing on a console you think the society doesn´t see you as a nerd as well?

It´s sad to see gamers saying stuff like this tbh.

Arach666

Not if you are saying I play CoD :D.

1) Cheaper hardware

2) Easy

3) Exclusives

Sorry can only name 3 :/

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What kind of game isn't designed with a specific controller in mind? And is "functional and ergonomic" meant to be used as a pro for console controllers over PC controls? Do you think keyboard/mouse isn't functional or ergonomic? If not then why don't the hundreds of thousands of businesses in the world use Xbox 360 controllers to conduct their business?Ly_the_Fairy

Gamepads were designed for playing games in mind. Keyboards were designed for typing. You need to play on a table to use a keyboard/mouse. A gamepad can be carried around. Altogether, keyboard/mouse is way less comfortable for extended play than a gamepad.

The mouse is okay, but if you're using a normal mouse, your right hand only has access to two or three buttons versus the seven accessable to each hand on a gamepad (eight counting start/select). On a keyboard, the majority of buttons are delegated to the left hand, which causes ergonomic problems. You shouldn't have to twist the fingers of your left hand to reach inputs.

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"] The argument is about being keyboard/mouse being "functional and ergonomic". My example proves 100% that a keyboard/mouse are functional and ergonomic.designer-

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Anyway, your welcome to your viewpoint, if you honestly think consoles are some inferior life form to PC gaming, then all power to you. I really don't think I will feel any different one way or another..

Well, they certainly are not better or as good as PC gaming. (as a whole for those that will use their windows ME PCs as ammo heh) They don't even win in portability anymore.

You also don't have analog control of movement on a keyboard, something that is very important in a lot of games.

You also don't have analog control of movement on a keyboard, something that is very important in a lot of games.

ActionRemix

1) Cheaper hardware

2) Easy

3) Exclusives

Sorry can only name 3 :/

commonfate

Many people keep listing exclusives as something consoles do better than pc.

Do you realise PC has way more?

[QUOTE="commonfate"]

1) Cheaper hardware

2) Easy

3) Exclusives

Sorry can only name 3 :/

Jankarcop

Many people keep listing exclusives as something consoles do better than pc.

Do you realise PC has way more?

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="commonfate"]

1) Cheaper hardware

2) Easy

3) Exclusives

Sorry can only name 3 :/

soulitane

Many people keep listing exclusives as something consoles do better than pc.

Do you realise PC has way more?

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]

You also don't have analog control of movement on a keyboard, something that is very important in a lot of games.

SparkyProtocol

Most games that don't utilize analog movement would benefit from it. Little Big Planet or any 3D platformer will play much better with analog movement than with a DPad, or **** WASD.

I was responding to a guy that said keyboard/mouse control > gamepad which is only true in a few genres, most of which have no business on console anyway.

Do you realise PC has way more?

Jankarcop

The only PC exclusives I would ever care about will run on my laptop. Consoles have exclusives that I enjoy. Then again, I play all console games other than the current generation on my laptop.

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="ActionRemix"]

You also don't have analog control of movement on a keyboard, something that is very important in a lot of games.

ActionRemix

Most games that don't utilize analog movement would benefit from it. Little Big Planet or any 3D platformer will play much better with analog movement than with a DPad, or **** WASD.

I was responding to a guy that said keyboard/mouse control > gamepad which is only true in a few genres, most of which have no business on console anyway.

But disregarding which is better PC wins by being able to use both and more so IDK why there was an argument.

1) It has its own exclusives

2) It has its own exclusives

3) It has its own exclusives

4) It has its own exclusives

5) It has its own exclusives

Thats the only reason to own a console. Its the only thing that keeps consoles afloat. Everything else the PC can do way better (it even has a larger exclusive library :D ).

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[QUOTE="commonfate"]

1) Cheaper hardware

2) Easy

3) Exclusives

Sorry can only name 3 :/

soulitane

Many people keep listing exclusives as something consoles do better than pc.

Do you realise PC has way more?

[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

Many people keep listing exclusives as something consoles do better than pc.

Do you realise PC has way more?

SparkyProtocol

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="soulitane"] More=/= better and better is subjective. People might like what the consoles has to offer more.soulitane

It very well seems to be true in most genres save fighters and racers that M/KB is the best. Not only in faster response times and more movement via mouse but in the sheer numbers of options in some cases. Some games have too many commands to work well or at all on gamepads. And for you final statement we all know RTS has no business on consoles but that's irrelevant really.

But disregarding which is better PC wins by being able to use both and more so IDK why there was an argument.

SparkyProtocol

Consoles could just as well use keyboard/mouse but developers decide not to support those controls, although some do.

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"]

It very well seems to be true in most genres save fighters and racers that M/KB is the best. Not only in faster response times and more movement via mouse but in the sheer numbers of options in some cases. Some games have too many commands to work well or at all on gamepads. And for you final statement we all know RTS has no business on consoles but that's irrelevant really.

But disregarding which is better PC wins by being able to use both and more so IDK why there was an argument.

ActionRemix

Consoles could just as well use keyboard/mouse but developers decide not to support those controls, although some do.

[QUOTE="soulitane"]

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"] So? What's the point of the thread if people can ignore everything just because of preference? I think JRPGs are horrible but I won't count them out.SparkyProtocol

@EDIT Considering the opening post specifies next to nothing, we can interpret it in our own ways :P

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="soulitane"] It's got more sure, but which one does them better is completely subjective, and that's what this thread is about doing something better than the other. It all comes down to personal preference.

soulitane

Did someone just say consoles have better racing games? maybe dumb action racing games but racing sims? i dont think so...

sami117

[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"] Duh but since this forum is around ratings and graphics... (and longevity of MP games aka KZ is dead?) But all of this in the thread does not come down to preference.SparkyProtocol

1. Price

2. Plug & Play

3. JRPGs

4. Platformers

5. Social Acceptability :P

Challenge accepted:

1) ease of use

2) cheaper HW

3) splitscreen coop

4) motion controlls

5) more blockbuster games

Wow, that was eeeeazy. What did I win?

Consoles could also game at 60fps with 1080p and offer more freedom. The thing is they don't.SparkyProtocol

I don't think most people can even tell the difference between 30 and 60 fps unless they're side by side. As far as 1080p goes, DVD's sell more than Blu-rays. DVD overcame VHS mainly because of portability, not because of picture quality. Most people aren't that picky. Yes, 60 fps and 1080p are better than 30 fps and upscaled 604p, but most people would rather give that up than the benefits of consoles, which do exist despite rhetoric here.

The PC provides some things that consoles don't, but don't overvalue those strengths while undervaluing the benefits of consoles.

Challenge accepted:

1) ease of use

2) cheaper HW

3) splitscreen coop

4) motion controlls

5) more blockbuster games

Wow, that was eeeeazy. What did I win?

BlbecekBobecek

I love how consolites bring up some reasons which dont make sense. Standardization across hardware?!!! All friend on one online service? Retail support is easier? Ease of use ? Full controller support? I mean , come on!! We said to say things that consoles do better than PC , not SAME AS PC. You can do better.AzatiS

how is standardisation a bad thing, we a buy a game we know we can run it out the box and just throw it in sit down with a nice cold beer and get on with it.

Plug in and play, if your building a rig from scratch that aint the case you've got to build it,install windows,get everything working, then download steam, install games etc etc consoles have an upper hand there unbox connect scart/hdmi and set the time make a little silly profile 10min later boom gaming time.

Retail support is larger for console games as DD is more prevelant on the PC nowadays.

All friends on the same service is down to there only being one service.

I do consider plug in and play and standardisation good points to be honest, as there are some dopey folks on this planet who couldnt setup a desktop or know what their system specs were.

1. Price

2. Plug & Play

3. JRPGs

4. Platformers

5. Social Acceptability :P

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

1. Price

2. Plug & Play

3. JRPGs

4. Platformers

5. Social Acceptability :P

AzatiS

how many are going to be ready for gaming and how many are actually going to be used for gaming, PC's are much a commodity and necessity like a house phone is in this day and age as life has become more online centric over the past decade its pretty ill thought out arguement you have there champ.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

1. Price

2. Plug & Play

3. JRPGs

4. Platformers

5. Social Acceptability :P

AzatiS

That's like asking to name five things the VHS does better than DVD players.

That's like asking to name five things the VHS does better than DVD players.

Lucianu

build quality? :P

I disagree with the last. 150Million PC , in china and US ALONE , will be sold only in 2011!!! Thats not social acceptability? 150M in a year in only 2 big countries is more than all 3 consoles sold whole gen. Now add all other PCs sold globally and here it is...social acceplability.AzatiS

Very few of those are powerful enough to run hardware-pushing PC exclusive games. Even fewer have users that want to play hardware-pushing PC exclusive games. I think when he says social acceptability he means purchasing a dedicated gaming machine. Most people get computers for other reasons and if they play games, they run in their browser.

[QUOTE="AzatiS"]I love how consolites bring up some reasons which dont make sense. Standardization across hardware?!!! All friend on one online service? Retail support is easier? Ease of use ? Full controller support? I mean , come on!! We said to say things that consoles do better than PC , not SAME AS PC. You can do better.razgriz_101

how is standardisation a bad thing, we a buy a game we know we can run it out the box and just throw it in sit down with a nice cold beer and get on with it.

Plug in and play, if your building a rig from scratch that aint the case you've got to build it,install windows,get everything working, then download steam, install games etc etc consoles have an upper hand there unbox connect scart/hdmi and set the time make a little silly profile 10min later boom gaming time.

Retail support is larger for console games as DD is more prevelant on the PC nowadays.

All friends on the same service is down to there only being one service.

I do consider plug in and play and standardisation good points to be honest, as there are some dopey folks on this planet who couldnt setup a desktop or know what their system specs were.

Because you playing with the PC myths here.

Im gaming since 2001 with PCs. I was a console user only before that. I never , EVER , had a problem with a game. How you can say PC games isnt sure that running. If you play on Pentium 4 still and trying to play Crysis 1 , yeah you might got big issues. But its the same as you trying to play Crysis 2 on PS2.

Plug and play is really subjective. Most people buy ready machines. Do you know consoles have their own OS to run games do you? Same as windows. As for Install , i prefer have almost none existant loading screens , than waiting almost 30sec-1min every loading screen ( no install ). I prefer to install for 10min and no loading. Yeah i do.

Who said that? I buy all my PC games as easy as consoles ones. Same shops selling consoles as PC games as well. All my PC games are hard copies. How you saying this? DD is just a plus way to buy games for PC which is one more option for PCs ofc. Is not that lacks retail support.

You talking like PC cant have all people under one online service...come on!!!!!

I can see some valid points but overall i dont see how these points making consoles better than PCs. Really

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"]

Consoles could also game at 60fps with 1080p and offer more freedom. The thing is they don't.ActionRemix

I don't think most people can even tell the difference between 30 and 60 fps unless they're side by side. As far as 1080p goes, DVD's sell more than Blu-rays. DVD overcame VHS mainly because of portability, not because of picture quality. Most people aren't that picky. Yes, 60 fps and 1080p are better than 30 fps and upscaled 604p, but most people would rather give that up than the benefits of consoles, which do exist despite rhetoric here.

The PC provides some things that consoles don't, but don't overvalue those strengths while undervaluing the benefits of consoles.

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="AzatiS"]I love how consolites bring up some reasons which dont make sense. Standardization across hardware?!!! All friend on one online service? Retail support is easier? Ease of use ? Full controller support? I mean , come on!! We said to say things that consoles do better than PC , not SAME AS PC. You can do better.AzatiS

how is standardisation a bad thing, we a buy a game we know we can run it out the box and just throw it in sit down with a nice cold beer and get on with it.

Plug in and play, if your building a rig from scratch that aint the case you've got to build it,install windows,get everything working, then download steam, install games etc etc consoles have an upper hand there unbox connect scart/hdmi and set the time make a little silly profile 10min later boom gaming time.

Retail support is larger for console games as DD is more prevelant on the PC nowadays.

All friends on the same service is down to there only being one service.

I do consider plug in and play and standardisation good points to be honest, as there are some dopey folks on this planet who couldnt setup a desktop or know what their system specs were.

Because you playing with the PC myths here.

Im gaming since 2001 with PCs. I was a console user only before that. I never , EVER , had a problem with a game. How you can say PC games isnt sure that running. If you play on Pentium 4 still and trying to play Crysis 1 , yeah you might got big issues. But its the same as you trying to play Crysis 2 on PS2.

Plug and play is really subjective. Most people buy ready machines. Do you know consoles have their own OS to run games do you? Same as windows. As for Install , i prefer have almost none existant loading screens , than waiting almost 30sec-1min every loading screen ( no install ). I prefer to install for 10min and no loading. Yeah i do.

Who said that? I buy all my PC games as easy as consoles ones. Same shops selling consoles as PC games as well. All my PC games are hard copies. How you saying this? DD is just a plus way to buy games for PC which is one more option for PCs ofc. Is not that lacks retail support.

You talking like PC cant have all people under one online service...come on!!!!!

I can see some valid points but overall i dont see how these points making consoles better than PCs. Really

and about 90% of those PC's wont run up to date games that great try harder champ i know your really trying but getting the best out of PC gaming and games running decently requires decent hardware aswell.

And the way your acting irrationally bout PC gaming its pointless arguing with you as your literally grasping at straws especially oh but i install and threes no loads yeah that might be the case for OLD games now but i could tell you it would still take a good 20-30 seconds to load a BC2 map on PC on a decent spec PC.

Also the retail thing is more centric to where i live where the PC now has literally a minimal prescense and the PS2 even out does it in shelf space.