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#551 GundamGuy0
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I didn't see guns, but to fly around on a jet like vehicle and not have a missle to use is kind of worthless if you ask me. Here is why I think Kazooie will be able to fly. 1...building a machine the way you want it at least will take time and resources. Using Kazooie to fly into certain places instead of making your own vehicle to do that will not only be faster, but perhaps easier too. I understand that vehicles are essential part of the game, but it seems though you don't understand that platforming is still very much there and to have many options isn't a bad thing at all.

Ilived

Seriously though most people are just assuming that platforming is a big aspect to this game... Rare hasn't show anything from it, execpt Banjo and Kazooie crossing a rope...

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#552 web966
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Just look at this level. Where is the platforming? Its the most boring level ever.

Ilived

Well jumping on blocks isn't considered fun anymore. At least not by the masses.

Mario Galaxy was all about jumpng and it got GOTY everywhere. So many people still must find it fun.

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#553 Ilived
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[QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="web966"]

Just look at this level. Where is the platforming? Its the most boring level ever.

web966

Well jumping on blocks isn't considered fun anymore. At least not by the masses.

Mario Galaxy was all about jumpng and it got GOTY everywhere. So many people still must find it fun.

Yeah your'e right about that, if it's done right it can still be fun...but usually it isn't anymore.

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#554 GundamGuy0
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When I say reach places that were unreachable I mean places that you couldn't reach on foot without Wings, also those Platforms that they could be talking about was that the Planes might be too big to land on the platform so you need Kazooie to reach them.Nintendo_Ownes7

The GS Preview made no mention of flying and only had one line about using Kazooies abilities... Which abilities remain to be seen, Claw Climb? Eggs? It's hard to tell.

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#555 justforlotr2004
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[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="web966"]

Just look at this level. Where is the platforming? Its the most boring level ever.

web966

Thats spiral mountain being built.

Yes, but its one thing in the middle of a huge empty level.

There is collectables all over that wall in the background, You will have to do platforming on that.

Its not like they are making all the parts laying on the floor and you just drive around grabing them.

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#556 GundamGuy0
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[QUOTE="web966"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="web966"]

Just look at this level. Where is the platforming? Its the most boring level ever.

Ilived

Well jumping on blocks isn't considered fun anymore. At least not by the masses.

Mario Galaxy was all about jumpng and it got GOTY everywhere. So many people still must find it fun.

Yeah your'e right about that, if it's done right it can still be fun...but usually it isn't anymore.

Which is why some people are really upset with this news. They were waiting on Banjo Kazooie to be the next one to do it right.

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#557 hurley_house
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[QUOTE="web966"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="web966"]

Just look at this level. Where is the platforming? Its the most boring level ever.

Ilived

Well jumping on blocks isn't considered fun anymore. At least not by the masses.

Mario Galaxy was all about jumpng and it got GOTY everywhere. So many people still must find it fun.

Yeah your'e right about that, if it's done right it can still be fun...but usually it isn't anymore.

but banjo was a prime example of an excellent platformer so it was a pretty given that if rare put effort into it they would make another excellent instalment in the franchise. not give us this spin off.. :|

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#558 Dante2710
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well im looking forward to banjo....but not as a platformer.....hopefully rare can pull this off
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#559 Ilived
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[QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="web966"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="web966"]

Just look at this level. Where is the platforming? Its the most boring level ever.

GundamGuy0

Well jumping on blocks isn't considered fun anymore. At least not by the masses.

Mario Galaxy was all about jumpng and it got GOTY everywhere. So many people still must find it fun.

Yeah your'e right about that, if it's done right it can still be fun...but usually it isn't anymore.

Which is why some people are really upset with this news. They were waiting on Banjo Kazooie to be the next one to do it right.

Literally though, Nintendo were running out of ideas and they had to make Mario in space. The only thing left really. I would appreciate the same ol platformer, but I don't hate this new feature at all.

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#560 web966
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[QUOTE="web966"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="web966"]

Just look at this level. Where is the platforming? Its the most boring level ever.

justforlotr2004

Thats spiral mountain being built.

Yes, but its one thing in the middle of a huge empty level.

There is collectables all over that wall in the background, You will have to do platforming on that.

Its not like they are making all the parts laying on the floor and you just drive around grabing them.

Im sure there will be some platforming, but this game was obviously built around vehicles.

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#561 marcuskickass
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http://gamevideos.com/video/id/18831

Haters watch this video, Bam , the vehicles seem to work really well in this game and looks to be a sh**load of fun to play

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#562 justforlotr2004
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Im am so possitive that most collecatbles will make you platform that I challenge you to find one part in that debut trailer where you collect a piece via vehicle. Not to say you cant collect parts with vehicles, but in that footage you only see him getting it by hand.
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#563 Nintendo_Ownes7
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Im am so possitive that most collecatbles will make you platform that I challenge you to find one part in that debut trailer where you collect a piece via vehicle. Not to say you cant collect parts with vehicles, but in that footage you only see him getting it by hand.justforlotr2004
Actually in one part Kazooie had a tool that made the Puzzle peice fall onto the vehicle then they moved it to a vacuum where the vacuum sucked it up.
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#564 Dante2710
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^^^ thanks for the vid :lol: the part where they destroy the mario thing was pretty funny
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#565 justforlotr2004
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[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]Im am so possitive that most collecatbles will make you platform that I challenge you to find one part in that debut trailer where you collect a piece via vehicle. Not to say you cant collect parts with vehicles, but in that footage you only see him getting it by hand.Nintendo_Ownes7
Actually in one part Kazooie had a tool that made the Puzzle peice fall onto the vehicle then they moved it to a vacuum where the vacuum sucked it up.

Thats not collecting the piece with the car though, thats transporting it... If anything that shows how they integrated the vehicles with the platforming part.

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#566 Shinobishyguy
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you callin' mario galaxy ancient :?

last time I checked it gave the genre a glimmer of hope

ZeldaMaster32

Mario Galaxy is great but it didn't do anything really new. It was unique in level design and the influence of gravity, but it still played like 64.

and how is banjo introducing a bunch of elements that were in previous other games snd genres (twisted metal, Jak 3 anyone?) make it any more fresh?
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Am i the only one who thinks the vehicle bit looks .. kind of dumb? Im not going to really judge it now until i get a chance to play it myself, but i just dont understand why its there, doesnt seem like its that great of an idea. The video only showed like 4 parts that were actually platforming too, the rest was making/driving the vehicles.

I want to see more of the platforming aspects.
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#568 justforlotr2004
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For those complaining.

*lol Mature content warming*

[spoiler] [/spoiler]

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[QUOTE="web966"]

Just look at this level. Where is the platforming? Its the most boring level ever.

Ilived

Well jumping on blocks isn't considered fun anymore. At least not by the masses.

I know, just look at this screen, I mean it looks totally boring yet somehow this turd, looking soooo boring gets 2007 GOTY. :roll:

Super Mario Galaxy Screenshot

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#570 Dante2710
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For those complaining.

*lol Mature content warming*

justforlotr2004
is that gears of war? :o
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#571 justforlotr2004
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[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

For those complaining.

*lol Mature content warming*

Dante2710

is that gears of war? :o

Yeah its a small new clip from Gears 2.

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those look pretty good.
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and how is banjo introducing a bunch of elements that were in previous other games snd genres (twisted metal, Jak 3 anyone?) make it any more fresh?Shinobishyguy

From Game Informer:

RARE showed them a vehicle that was a monster truck that was able to detach its chasis to become a mini bike. When the bike ramped off a cliff it revealed collapsible glider wings and started flying.

When did Jak or Twisted Metal do that?

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#574 Dante2710
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[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

For those complaining.

*lol Mature content warming*

justforlotr2004

is that gears of war? :o

Yeah its a small new clip from Gears 2.

:o ohh snap, im saving that gif.....i wonder if u`ll be able to do that in MP :twisted:
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]and how is banjo introducing a bunch of elements that were in previous other games snd genres (twisted metal, Jak 3 anyone?) make it any more fresh?ZeldaMaster32

From Game Informer:

RARE showed them a vehicle that was a monster truck that was able to detach its chasis to become a mini bike. When the bike ramp

When did Jak or Twisted do that?ed off a cliff it revealed collapsible glider wings and started flying.

I stand corrected. Still...SMG is recongnised as a breth of fresh air ofr the genre becasue of it's insane levels.

I just hope Banjo can do the same.

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#576 web966
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Am i the only one who thinks the vehicle bit looks .. kind of dumb? Im not going to really judge it now until i get a chance to play it myself, but i just dont understand why its there, doesnt seem like its that great of an idea. The video only showed like 4 parts that were actually platforming too, the rest was making/driving the vehicles.

I want to see more of the platforming aspects.
Haziqonfire

I agree. Making vehicles just doesnt sound very fun to me.

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#577 web966
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]and how is banjo introducing a bunch of elements that were in previous other games snd genres (twisted metal, Jak 3 anyone?) make it any more fresh?ZeldaMaster32

From Game Informer:

RARE showed them a vehicle that was a monster truck that was able to detach its chasis to become a mini bike. When the bike ramp

When did Jak or Twisted do that?ed off a cliff it revealed collapsible glider wings and started flying.

That Spy hunter game on the PS2 did that. When you were driving a car it would turn into a boat when you drove into the water.

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#578 justforlotr2004
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[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

For those complaining.

*lol Mature content warming*

Dante2710

is that gears of war? :o

Yeah its a small new clip from Gears 2.

:o ohh snap, im saving that gif.....i wonder if u`ll be able to do that in MP :twisted:

http://gamerscoreblog.com/team/default.aspx

Its from that.

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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]and how is banjo introducing a bunch of elements that were in previous other games snd genres (twisted metal, Jak 3 anyone?) make it any more fresh?ZeldaMaster32

From Game Informer:

RARE showed them a vehicle that was a monster truck that was able to detach its chasis to become a mini bike. When the bike ramped off a cliff it revealed collapsible glider wings and started flying.

When did Jak or Twisted Metal do that?

Oh wow that's amazing:o

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#580 xxastrocreepxx
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Well the only good platformer we got this gen was SMG. Could rare really follow up with a good one as well?
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#581 Vis-a-Vis
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Bk 3 looks amazing. If they can properly and flawlessly introduce vehicle elements into traditional platforming/adventure gameplay, then im sure it will be amazing.

I also hear there are 1,600 different vehicle parts. Not to mention building vehicles looks so...Innovative and fun, reminds me of lego, but sooo much cooler.

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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]Am i the only one who thinks the vehicle bit looks .. kind of dumb? Im not going to really judge it now until i get a chance to play it myself, but i just dont understand why its there, doesnt seem like its that great of an idea. The video only showed like 4 parts that were actually platforming too, the rest was making/driving the vehicles.

I want to see more of the platforming aspects.
web966

I agree. Making vehicles just doesnt sound very fun to me.


Yeah i was really excited to see this trailer. Finally, banjo is back.

but now looking at the video -- it seems vehicles are a huge focus of the gameplay and for some reason, it feels like it doesnt fit the banjo world at all.
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#583 Dante2710
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[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

For those complaining.

*lol Mature content warming*

justforlotr2004

is that gears of war? :o

Yeah its a small new clip from Gears 2.

:o ohh snap, im saving that gif.....i wonder if u`ll be able to do that in MP :twisted:

http://gamerscoreblog.com/team/default.aspx

Its from that.

:twisted: shwweeet... my hype from gears of war 2 just grew alot :P anyone knows i there is any videos on xbl? for banjo?
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Wow, just watched this, the vehicles to me are.....dis-heartening. I actually might be anticipating Too Human more than this now after watching both of their trailers that just came out.
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Wow, just watched this, the vehicles to me are.....dis-heartening. I actually might be anticipating Too Human more than this now after watching both of their trailers that just came out.MikeE21286

dude we already know you love PS3, and stop bashing Xbox 360 games.

Video: most of the video was multiplayer but the vehicles thing should be a huge bonus in the single player.

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#586 Mamba_Negra
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Well the only good platformer we got this gen was SMG. Could rare really follow up with a good one as well? xxastrocreepxx

that should be the case if you ask me, the real RARE ideas never dissapoint.

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#587 astiop
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]and how is banjo introducing a bunch of elements that were in previous other games snd genres (twisted metal, Jak 3 anyone?) make it any more fresh?ZeldaMaster32

From Game Informer:

RARE showed them a vehicle that was a monster truck that was able to detach its chasis to become a mini bike. When the bike ramped off a cliff it revealed collapsible glider wings and started flying.

When did Jak or Twisted Metal do that?

I mean even if you don't like the vehicle idea... you really have to admit that at least their not doing a half assed job at it... it seems pretty deep.

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#588 Vis-a-Vis
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[QUOTE="ZeldaMaster32"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]and how is banjo introducing a bunch of elements that were in previous other games snd genres (twisted metal, Jak 3 anyone?) make it any more fresh?astiop

From Game Informer:

RARE showed them a vehicle that was a monster truck that was able to detach its chasis to become a mini bike. When the bike ramped off a cliff it revealed collapsible glider wings and started flying.

When did Jak or Twisted Metal do that?

I mean even if you don't like the vehicle idea... you really have to admit that at least their not doing a half assed job at it... it seems pretty deep.

Surprisingly deep. Just reading about some of the vehicles, looking at the stats, and knowing there are 1,600 different parts makes me excited.

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Surprisingly deep. Just reading about some of the vehicles, looking at the stats, and knowing there are 1,600 different parts makes me excited.

Vis-a-Vis
:o That's a lot of parts! I hope they don't stray too much from the original formula, though. I never played it, but I've heard enough about it to know it was pretty fantastic. I'd like to experience that fantastic-ness.
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#590 ZeldaMaster32
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That Spy hunter game on the PS2 did that. When you were driving a car it would turn into a boat when you drove into the water.web966

Was Spy Hunter a plaformer or something like 007? Because I thought we were talking about platformers.:|

Anything Spy related has stuff like that.

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#591 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="astiop"][QUOTE="ZeldaMaster32"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]and how is banjo introducing a bunch of elements that were in previous other games snd genres (twisted metal, Jak 3 anyone?) make it any more fresh?Vis-a-Vis

From Game Informer:

RARE showed them a vehicle that was a monster truck that was able to detach its chasis to become a mini bike. When the bike ramped off a cliff it revealed collapsible glider wings and started flying.

When did Jak or Twisted Metal do that?

I mean even if you don't like the vehicle idea... you really have to admit that at least their not doing a half assed job at it... it seems pretty deep.

Surprisingly deep. Just reading about some of the vehicles, looking at the stats, and knowing there are 1,600 different parts makes me excited.

deep =/= good.

remember building gummi ships in kingdom hearts. Not really fun...

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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]Wow, just watched this, the vehicles to me are.....dis-heartening. I actually might be anticipating Too Human more than this now after watching both of their trailers that just came out.Mamba_Negra

dude we already know you love PS3, and stop bashing Xbox 360 games.

Video: most of the video was multiplayer but the vehicles thing should be a huge bonus in the single player.

You act as if I'm the only one displeased with it......look around the net.

Also: I don't root for bad 360 games. I own one.

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#593 shadowcat2576
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We've waited 8 years for the return of a great platformer, only to find that it's no longer a platformer. If you like what they've introduced, that's great for you, but I don't see how this game as they're presenting it now is supposed to appeal to the BK fans out there. Saying, "Well Rare said it wasn't going to be a traditional platformer" and "It still has platforming elements" does not change the fact that what we've been shown is not nearly the game we were wanting. If they show us an equal amount of platforming I'll reconsider this game.

When people give examples of changing other popluar games like Gears or Halo, we're told "That's not a good example." Why not? Would you rather play Starfox or Starfox Adventures, Halo or Halo Wars, Final Fantasy X or FF:CC? All of these changed the major gameplay of the game and most fans don't care for those changes.

For those saying platformers are dead or boring or don't stand up to todays games. Who's fault is that? The developers. THere were plenty of bad platformers back in the day but there were some stand outs, BK was one. How do platformers evolve and set the bar to become good, entertaining characters, tricky puzzles and boss fights, and great areas to explore. I don't see why some people think these can't be done on a level to be interesting on current gen systems. Have they become so jaded that it's now "Oh how boring I have to collect jiggies again" instead of "I wonder what I'll have to do to get the jiggies this time"

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#594 Adrian_Cloud
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So much hype for such an average looking game. Hopefully it makes it to this year.
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#595 GundamGuy0
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We've waited 8 years for the return of a great platformer, only to find that it's no longer a platformer. If you like what they've introduced, that's great for you, but I don't see how this game as they're presenting it now is supposed to appeal to the BK fans out there. Saying, "Well Rare said it wasn't going to be a traditional platformer" and "It still has platforming elements" does not change the fact that what we've been shown is not nearly the game we were wanting. If they show us an equal amount of platforming I'll reconsider this game.

When people give examples of changing other popluar games like Gears or Halo, we're told "That's not a good example." Why not? Would you rather play Starfox or Starfox Adventures, Halo or Halo Wars, Final Fantasy X or FF:CC? All of these changed the major gameplay of the game and most fans don't care for those changes.

For those saying platformers are dead or boring or don't stand up to todays games. Who's fault is that? The developers. THere were plenty of bad platformers back in the day but there were some stand outs, BK was one. How do platformers evolve and set the bar to become good, entertaining characters, tricky puzzles and boss fights, and great areas to explore. I don't see why some people think these can't be done on a level to be interesting on current gen systems. Have they become so jaded that it's now "Oh how boring I have to collect jiggies again" instead of "I wonder what I'll have to do to get the jiggies this time"

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I 100% agree with this post.

This game might be great, but it's not going to appeal to fans of the original games...and that's not what they were going for either apparently.

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#596 Mamba_Negra
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new opinions are always welcome.

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#597 ZeldaMaster32
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I 100% agree with this post.

This game might be great, but it's not going to appeal to fans of the original games...and that's not what they were going for either apparently.

GundamGuy0

So...do I debunk that statement? >_>

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#598 MagnuzGuerra
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Just watched the new video... :lol:
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#599 Mamba_Negra
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So much hype for such an average looking game. Hopefully it makes it to this year.Adrian_Cloud

yet another PS3 fanboy bashing, if you look at its posting history you will agree.

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#600 Shinobishyguy
Member since 2006 • 22928 Posts
is it so much to just ask for a balance between the vehicle segments and the platforming?