New PSN Update Killing Older Consoles, Sony's Problems Mount

What does this mean for the very rare but reliable 40gig models?percech

sure pal :roll: and lol at you trying to use an incident from 6 years ago. i guess every positive of the last 6 years doesn't count because of that oneincident. which is strange with how some cows got over Sony's lies every day of PSN will be back on in 1 or 2 days, every day, for 3 weeks and 23 days lmao.

give it a rest...nothing but bias here. i'm writing off my experience with MS and 360 customer support...i'm sure ur talking based off nothing.LucidJubilation

Let me get this straight. You just want to ignore the RROD incident where MS lied multiple times about the RROD not just a passing "Naw we don't see evidence" but multiple reports being slung at them left and right and lawsuits starting to crop up at their feet. Then they decide to be "Generous" and extend the waranty. Sure lets forget all that ever happened and focus on the 6 amazing years MS has gave us.

-Price hike for services "under the guise of providing services not even related to gaming"

Lets also assume MS is giving us good will when they replace your system with a new 250g slim system, you are still stuck with a bricked system, possible data loss "Not sure can you hook a old HD to the slims?" and your waiting for 2-3 weeks "minimum" of receiving a new system in the mail. But it's allright it's forgivable I'll give you that, but what I wont give you that it's not an issue at all and Sony am suck at customer service.

PSN went down for a month "lets round it up" but you could still play your games, and you never actually payed for online services unlike Live. So Sony fixes the system adresses the issues that arise from it offer identity protection and give you 2(4 if you have a PSP account) full retail or downloadable games, and a month of their premium service PS+. Sounds like it evens itself out in terms of bad to good news. Sony never had the RROD floating over their heads or any real massive PR gaffs, sure you had YLOD but it was nowhere near as wide-spread of denied it was an issue for years.

But yeah I'm talking based off nothing, and MS gives the best customer service in the world. Honestly I should make sure to update my launch 360 and see if it bricks when the update comes out, I feel for people who don't have there systems hooked to the internet for MS to "Find" them and just one day update there system with a new game and be like "Ooops disc unreadable"

[QUOTE="LucidJubilation"]how about posting the full posts of each so it makes more sense to people why it makes no sense for you to be posting it this way. you even left the person i quoted out so it just looks like a blatant contradiction...smh. we were talking about two different things in two different categories and subjects. i mean, why have an agenda? be fair...the win will feel better, be better. shinrabanshou

In either case, the plural of anecdote is not data.

:o :P

I would have to agree, anecdotal evidence is still anecdotal evidence. :P

The new PSN Update DID NOT Kill my SNES. :evil::P

[QUOTE="percech"]What does this mean for the very rare but reliable 40gig models?Jynxzor

sure pal :roll: and lol at you trying to use an incident from 6 years ago. i guess every positive of the last 6 years doesn't count because of that oneincident. which is strange with how some cows got over Sony's lies every day of PSN will be back on in 1 or 2 days, every day, for 3 weeks and 23 days lmao.

give it a rest...nothing but bias here. i'm writing off my experience with MS and 360 customer support...i'm sure ur talking based off nothing.LucidJubilation

Let me get this straight. You just want to ignore the RROD incident where MS lied multiple times about the RROD not just a passing "Naw we don't see evidence" but multiple reports being slung at them left and right and lawsuits starting to crop up at their feet. Then they decide to be "Generous" and extend the waranty. Sure lets forget all that ever happened and focus on the 6 amazing years MS has gave us.

-Price hike for services "under the guise of providing services not even related to gaming"

Lets also assume MS is giving us good will when they replace your system with a new 250g slim system, you are still stuck with a bricked system, possible data loss "Not sure can you hook a old HD to the slims?" and your waiting for 2-3 weeks "minimum" of receiving a new system in the mail. But it's allright it's forgivable I'll give you that, but what I wont give you that it's not an issue at all and Sony am suck at customer service.

PSN went down for a month "lets round it up" but you could still play your games, and you never actually payed for online services unlike Live. So Sony fixes the system adresses the issues that arise from it offer identity protection and give you 2(4 if you have a PSP account) full retail or downloadable games, and a month of their premium service PS+. Sounds like it evens itself out in terms of bad to good news. Sony never had the RROD floating over their heads or any real massive PR gaffs, sure you had YLOD but it was nowhere near as wide-spread of denied it was an issue for years.

But yeah I'm talking based off nothing, and MS gives the best customer service in the world. Honestly I should make sure to update my launch 360 and see if it bricks when the update comes out, I feel for people who don't have there systems hooked to the internet for MS to "Find" them and just one day update there system with a new game and be like "Ooops disc unreadable"

Great. :( I have an early 80 GB backwards compatable model with no warranty. I guess I just wont get the game.

[QUOTE="LucidJubilation"]how about posting the full posts of each so it makes more sense to people why it makes no sense for you to be posting it this way. you even left the person i quoted out so it just looks like a blatant contradiction...smh. we were talking about two different things in two different categories and subjects. i mean, why have an agenda? be fair...the win will feel better, be better. shinrabanshou

In either case, the plural of anecdote is not data.

jezuz, i got another stalker good lord....listen to me, if you win an argument against a cow, just close ur account and leave...because they'll stalk, harrass, and knit pick every lil thing you do from then on to try and get that win back lmao.

[QUOTE="percech"]What does this mean for the very rare but reliable 40gig models?Jynxzor

sure pal :roll: and lol at you trying to use an incident from 6 years ago. i guess every positive of the last 6 years doesn't count because of that oneincident. which is strange with how some cows got over Sony's lies every day of PSN will be back on in 1 or 2 days, every day, for 3 weeks and 23 days lmao.

give it a rest...nothing but bias here. i'm writing off my experience with MS and 360 customer support...i'm sure ur talking based off nothing.LucidJubilation

Let me get this straight. You just want to ignore the RROD incident where MS lied multiple times about the RROD not just a passing "Naw we don't see evidence" but multiple reports being slung at them left and right and lawsuits starting to crop up at their feet. Then they decide to be "Generous" and extend the waranty. Sure lets forget all that ever happened and focus on the 6 amazing years MS has gave us.

-Price hike for services "under the guise of providing services not even related to gaming"

Lets also assume MS is giving us good will when they replace your system with a new 250g slim system, you are still stuck with a bricked system, possible data loss "Not sure can you hook a old HD to the slims?" and your waiting for 2-3 weeks "minimum" of receiving a new system in the mail. But it's allright it's forgivable I'll give you that, but what I wont give you that it's not an issue at all and Sony am suck at customer service.

PSN went down for a month "lets round it up" but you could still play your games, and you never actually payed for online services unlike Live. So Sony fixes the system adresses the issues that arise from it offer identity protection and give you 2(4 if you have a PSP account) full retail or downloadable games, and a month of their premium service PS+. Sounds like it evens itself out in terms of bad to good news. Sony never had the RROD floating over their heads or any real massive PR gaffs, sure you had YLOD but it was nowhere near as wide-spread of denied it was an issue for years.

But yeah I'm talking based off nothing, and MS gives the best customer service in the world. Honestly I should make sure to update my launch 360 and see if it bricks when the update comes out, I feel for people who don't have there systems hooked to the internet for MS to "Find" them and just one day update there system with a new game and be like "Ooops disc unreadable"

[QUOTE="LucidJubilation"]how about posting the full posts of each so it makes more sense to people why it makes no sense for you to be posting it this way. you even left the person i quoted out so it just looks like a blatant contradiction...smh. we were talking about two different things in two different categories and subjects. i mean, why have an agenda? be fair...the win will feel better, be better. shinrabanshou

In either case, the plural of anecdote is not data.

[QUOTE="percech"]What does this mean for the very rare but reliable 40gig models?Jynxzor

sure pal :roll: and lol at you trying to use an incident from 6 years ago. i guess every positive of the last 6 years doesn't count because of that oneincident. which is strange with how some cows got over Sony's lies every day of PSN will be back on in 1 or 2 days, every day, for 3 weeks and 23 days lmao.

give it a rest...nothing but bias here. i'm writing off my experience with MS and 360 customer support...i'm sure ur talking based off nothing.LucidJubilation

Let me get this straight. You just want to ignore the RROD incident where MS lied multiple times about the RROD not just a passing "Naw we don't see evidence" but multiple reports being slung at them left and right and lawsuits starting to crop up at their feet. Then they decide to be "Generous" and extend the waranty. Sure lets forget all that ever happened and focus on the 6 amazing years MS has gave us.

-Price hike for services "under the guise of providing services not even related to gaming"

Lets also assume MS is giving us good will when they replace your system with a new 250g slim system, you are still stuck with a bricked system, possible data loss "Not sure can you hook a old HD to the slims?" and your waiting for 2-3 weeks "minimum" of receiving a new system in the mail. But it's allright it's forgivable I'll give you that, but what I wont give you that it's not an issue at all and Sony am suck at customer service.

PSN went down for a month "lets round it up" but you could still play your games, and you never actually payed for online services unlike Live. So Sony fixes the system adresses the issues that arise from it offer identity protection and give you 2(4 if you have a PSP account) full retail or downloadable games, and a month of their premium service PS+. Sounds like it evens itself out in terms of bad to good news. Sony never had the RROD floating over their heads or any real massive PR gaffs, sure you had YLOD but it was nowhere near as wide-spread of denied it was an issue for years.

But yeah I'm talking based off nothing, and MS gives the best customer service in the world. Honestly I should make sure to update my launch 360 and see if it bricks when the update comes out, I feel for people who don't have there systems hooked to the internet for MS to "Find" them and just one day update there system with a new game and be like "Ooops disc unreadable"

This sucks for those who own the systems. It's just one thing after another for Sony.

Sony Playstation 3. It only does:

-offline play

-hacked personal info

-RROD

[QUOTE="percech"]What does this mean for the very rare but reliable 40gig models?Jynxzor

sure pal :roll: and lol at you trying to use an incident from 6 years ago. i guess every positive of the last 6 years doesn't count because of that oneincident. which is strange with how some cows got over Sony's lies every day of PSN will be back on in 1 or 2 days, every day, for 3 weeks and 23 days lmao.

give it a rest...nothing but bias here. i'm writing off my experience with MS and 360 customer support...i'm sure ur talking based off nothing.LucidJubilation

Let me get this straight. You just want to ignore the RROD incident where MS lied multiple times about the RROD not just a passing "Naw we don't see evidence" but multiple reports being slung at them left and right and lawsuits starting to crop up at their feet. Then they decide to be "Generous" and extend the waranty. Sure lets forget all that ever happened and focus on the 6 amazing years MS has gave us.

-Price hike for services "under the guise of providing services not even related to gaming"

Lets also assume MS is giving us good will when they replace your system with a new 250g slim system, you are still stuck with a bricked system, possible data loss "Not sure can you hook a old HD to the slims?" and your waiting for 2-3 weeks "minimum" of receiving a new system in the mail. But it's allright it's forgivable I'll give you that, but what I wont give you that it's not an issue at all and Sony am suck at customer service.

PSN went down for a month "lets round it up" but you could still play your games, and you never actually payed for online services unlike Live. So Sony fixes the system adresses the issues that arise from it offer identity protection and give you 2(4 if you have a PSP account) full retail or downloadable games, and a month of their premium service PS+. Sounds like it evens itself out in terms of bad to good news. Sony never had the RROD floating over their heads or any real massive PR gaffs, sure you had YLOD but it was nowhere near as wide-spread of denied it was an issue for years.

But yeah I'm talking based off nothing, and MS gives the best customer service in the world. Honestly I should make sure to update my launch 360 and see if it bricks when the update comes out, I feel for people who don't have there systems hooked to the internet for MS to "Find" them and just one day update there system with a new game and be like "Ooops disc unreadable"

Yes we got the memo years ago, Sony gets benefit of the doubt on everything, MS gets benefit of the doubt on nothing and multiple cases of Identity Theft are better then hardware issues. Do cows actually believe everything they post?

[QUOTE="Jynxzor"]

[QUOTE="percech"] I would avoid LA Noir for a week or two to see what Rockstar has to say about the situation, or if Sony pipes up it being an issue on their end. Right now like always we have no evidence to go on either side aside from Rockstar deleting accusing posts.

[QUOTE="LucidJubilation"]sure pal :roll: and lol at you trying to use an incident from 6 years ago. i guess every positive of the last 6 years doesn't count because of that oneincident. which is strange with how some cows got over Sony's lies every day of PSN will be back on in 1 or 2 days, every day, for 3 weeks and 23 days lmao.

give it a rest...nothing but bias here. i'm writing off my experience with MS and 360 customer support...i'm sure ur talking based off nothing.KevinnButlerNPK

Let me get this straight. You just want to ignore the RROD incident where MS lied multiple times about the RROD not just a passing "Naw we don't see evidence" but multiple reports being slung at them left and right and lawsuits starting to crop up at their feet. Then they decide to be "Generous" and extend the waranty. Sure lets forget all that ever happened and focus on the 6 amazing years MS has gave us.

-Price hike for services "under the guise of providing services not even related to gaming"

Lets also assume MS is giving us good will when they replace your system with a new 250g slim system, you are still stuck with a bricked system, possible data loss "Not sure can you hook a old HD to the slims?" and your waiting for 2-3 weeks "minimum" of receiving a new system in the mail. But it's allright it's forgivable I'll give you that, but what I wont give you that it's not an issue at all and Sony am suck at customer service.

PSN went down for a month "lets round it up" but you could still play your games, and you never actually payed for online services unlike Live. So Sony fixes the system adresses the issues that arise from it offer identity protection and give you 2(4 if you have a PSP account) full retail or downloadable games, and a month of their premium service PS+. Sounds like it evens itself out in terms of bad to good news. Sony never had the RROD floating over their heads or any real massive PR gaffs, sure you had YLOD but it was nowhere near as wide-spread of denied it was an issue for years.

But yeah I'm talking based off nothing, and MS gives the best customer service in the world. Honestly I should make sure to update my launch 360 and see if it bricks when the update comes out, I feel for people who don't have there systems hooked to the internet for MS to "Find" them and just one day update there system with a new game and be like "Ooops disc unreadable"

Yes we got the memo years ago, Sony gets benefit of the doubt on everything, MS gets benefit of the doubt on nothing and multiple cases of Identity Theft are better then hardware issues. Do cows actually believe everything they post?

Oh dear Sony :lol:

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"] wow people still havent put up a good rebuttal to jynxs postKevinnButlerNPK

Supporting Sony after being misled proves my point.

also...u still kept out the users posts you quoted my posts from lol smh...wth man, let it go. if ur going to prove this so called point fully, put a clear picture out there. put the post i was writing to up there against what i wrote. ur a smart guy with time...go head and do that for me. fix it....give a clear picture and stop the petty mess you've been on lately. a clean win will feel better, i promise. LucidJubilation

But you "win" the internet. Have fun with that.

Why would you remake the same thread and still say that consoles are dying when all the written info says that PS3s are freezing? There's a big difference. And why are you linking to Rockstar's site if only registered users can see it? And why are you making another thread about this after Rockstar took that off information? So many questions.

Why would you remake the same thread and still say that consoles are dying when all the written info says that PS3s are freezing? There's a big difference. And why are you linking to Rockstar's site if only registered users can see it? And why are you making another thread about this after Rockstar took that off information? So many questions.

RogueShodown

Some people can't be reasoned withby facts or logic. Some people just want to watch the boards burn

[QUOTE="KevinnButlerNPK"]

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"] wow people still havent put up a good rebuttal to jynxs post1stPlaceWinner

Supporting Sony after being misled proves my point.

[QUOTE="Utensilman"]Don't worry! Sony offers a trade in policy. your old 60g w backwards compatibility that you paid 600 dollars for plus an additional 125 dollars in exchange for a PS3 slim! gj Sony. hopefully fanboys learn a lesson here, I wouldn't count on it though.ultraking

[QUOTE="ultraking"][QUOTE="Utensilman"]Don't worry! Sony offers a trade in policy. your old 60g w backwards compatibility that you paid 600 dollars for plus an additional 125 dollars in exchange for a PS3 slim! gj Sony. hopefully fanboys learn a lesson here, I wouldn't count on it though.KevinnButlerNPK

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"][QUOTE="KevinnButlerNPK"] There isn't any argument so there is no need for rebuttal, The bllind will continue to be blind and those with no insight will continue to provide no insight. Your opinion is just as meaningless.

Supporting Sony after being misled proves my point.

KevinnButlerNPK

Yes we got the memo years ago, Sony gets benefit of the doubt on everything, MS gets benefit of the doubt on nothing and multiple cases of Identity Theft are better then hardware issues. Do cows actually believe everything they post?KevinnButlerNPK

[QUOTE="KevinnButlerNPK"]Yes we got the memo years ago, Sony gets benefit of the doubt on everything, MS gets benefit of the doubt on nothing and multiple cases of Identity Theft are better then hardware issues. Do cows actually believe everything they post?Jynxzor

Err... you mean the myriad of problem?

Disc scratching would be one of them

Mysterious price hike in price of Live

and now firmware making some older systems useless.

You think the RROD issue was handled well? let me just get this out of the way.

Neither consol has come out squeaky clean in the whole "Our system always works" debacle.

Err... you mean the myriad of problem?

Disc scratching would be one of them

Mysterious price hike in price of Live

and now firmware making some older systems useless.

You think the RROD issue was handled well? let me just get this out of the way.

Neither consol has come out squeaky clean in the whole "Our system always works" debacle.

Jynxzor

[QUOTE="bri360"]

An unexpected issue with an update, guess what people its not uncommon, it will be fixed soon.

Everyone is so quick to judge sony for the PSN downtime and now this. At least sony does something when things go wrong unlike microsoft that denies their problems until 2/3 years later. RROD is still the biggest fail this gen in terms of console failure.

KevinnButlerNPK

RROD was a fail, but fixed by MS. My day one purchase Xbox went in 1 time for repairs. It was smooth and got an Xbox back within 7 days. Is Sony offering to replace these overheating PS3s? I doubt they will, I recall the hassle I got with my disc problems on my PS2. I am MUCH more worried about the Identity Theft issue that their fail network put me in. Cancelling and re-ordering credit cards, not to mention these hackers could very well sell my information....here comes MORE junk mail (physical and electronical).

Ok I see what this is now, have fun with your non existant problems then IMHO the network thing never happened just like the moon landing.Jynxzor

Isn't the newest 360 update hurting itself as well?

Ragnarok1051

[QUOTE="KevinnButlerNPK"]

[QUOTE="bri360"]

An unexpected issue with an update, guess what people its not uncommon, it will be fixed soon.

Everyone is so quick to judge sony for the PSN downtime and now this. At least sony does something when things go wrong unlike microsoft that denies their problems until 2/3 years later. RROD is still the biggest fail this gen in terms of console failure.

Deevoshun

RROD was a fail, but fixed by MS. My day one purchase Xbox went in 1 time for repairs. It was smooth and got an Xbox back within 7 days. Is Sony offering to replace these overheating PS3s? I doubt they will, I recall the hassle I got with my disc problems on my PS2. I am MUCH more worried about the Identity Theft issue that their fail network put me in. Cancelling and re-ordering credit cards, not to mention these hackers could very well sell my information....here comes MORE junk mail (physical and electronical).

[QUOTE="LucidJubilation"]also...u still kept out the users posts you quoted my posts from lol smh...wth man, let it go. if ur going to prove this so called point fully, put a clear picture out there. put the post i was writing to up there against what i wrote. ur a smart guy with time...go head and do that for me. fix it....give a clear picture and stop the petty mess you've been on lately. a clean win will feel better, i promise. shinrabanshou

But you "win" the internet. Have fun with that.

Probably just the old POS phat ps3s nuking themselves like they do on there own anyways, and they were playing the game for lengths of time, increasing the odds. Glad I have a slim.LakersFan1982

Err... you mean the myriad of problem?

Disc scratching would be one of them

Mysterious price hike in price of Live

and now firmware making some older systems useless.

You think the RROD issue was handled well? let me just get this out of the way.

Neither consol has come out squeaky clean in the whole "Our system always works" debacle.

Jynxzor

I'm really glad I was patient and waited for the Slim to release before picking up my PS3. There is no way I'm buying a nex gen console at launch ever again after this gen's shoddy hardware problems.getyeryayasout