I really don't understand the point to the "Killzone has no color" argument... Seriously.. What are you getting at?So instead of gray and brown its now gray and white?
Rougehunter
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I really don't understand the point to the "Killzone has no color" argument... Seriously.. What are you getting at?[QUOTE="Rougehunter"]
So instead of gray and brown its now gray and white?
Rikusaki
i agree its a warzone. what do they expect you'll see some flowers and grass?
offtopic: love ur avatar i love toothless even my GF loves it. :p
http://media.vandal.net/m/12045/2010527202537_2.jpg
only super impressive one imho, the character models in it look fantastic.
the helghasts with jump packs reminds me of macross frontier. all they need now is to include bunch of mechs. GG should include mechs for online play. it'll be different and a blast. iwasgood2u
That mech in KZ2 was awesome. I hope KZ3 has something similar. And I'd love to see it in MP.
Looks ok but not as good as Gears of War on the PC.
Some people don't understand that with limited hardware capabilities games can only look so good.
They usually have to sacrifice something in order to get better visuals.
I think Killzone 3 will look about the same as the second one with a little more polish.
I agree. Except for the Crysis 2 part. All three will look excellent, then killzone 3 will blow them away. Crysis 2 will then come to claim the throne. You can't ignore the PC's abilities.I think that Reach, Crysis 2, and GeoW 3 will all look better than Killzone 2 in some way, then Killzone 3 will look better somehow. We'll keep playing these cat and mouse games as long as developers keep optimizing and learning to use their engines better.
AndyAlfredo
[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]Is this Killzone 2? I can't really tell..SwagSurf
Silly, the title says Killzone 3 and they are talking about it as well; too bad lemmings dont have a realistic game like KZ2 :(
I really wouldnt call Killzone 2 realistic...at all, its about as realistic as Gears just a little bit better graphically.
[QUOTE="SwagSurf"]
[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]Is this Killzone 2? I can't really tell..dragonfly110
Silly, the title says Killzone 3 and they are talking about it as well; too bad lemmings dont have a realistic game like KZ2 :(
I really wouldnt call Killzone 2 realistic...at all, its about as realistic as Gears just a little bit better graphically.
What makes Gears so realistic? Just curious because iv'e played both of them and the one I enjoyed the most was the first one.
[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]
[QUOTE="SwagSurf"]
Silly, the title says Killzone 3 and they are talking about it as well; too bad lemmings dont have a realistic game like KZ2 :(
SwagSurf
I really wouldnt call Killzone 2 realistic...at all, its about as realistic as Gears just a little bit better graphically.
What makes Gears so realistic? Just curious because iv'e played both of them and the one I enjoyed the most was the first one.
Probably referring to the weight of the guns.[QUOTE="Trinexxx"][QUOTE="Renjinrezo"]Gears and KZ have great art styles. UE3 is VERY versatile. Euphoria isn't a graphics engine. The only Frostbite games are BC, 1943, and BC2 so I don't see your point. You're right, you could use a Unreal 3.0 Engine and say it's the same as Gears. Both Gears and Killzone have terrible art styles. I don't know about you guys, but I've seen enough dark, gritty, and depressing games this generation. Examples of versatile graphics engines would be Frost Bite, Source, or even the Euphoria engine (along with the tweaks Rockstar have made).The gaming engine might have more capabilities than KZ lets us know. Also why would you make the co-relation between engine and art style is beyond me. If that were the case then we can use the most horrible looking unreal engine game and say that the art style of that game is the same as gears'.
Please never make a statement like Engine=art style if you're not joking or being sarcastic; it's ignorant and you're basically ignoring the works of designers that made the models and setting.
SparkyProtocol
Frost Bite has me sold, I really couldn't ask for more from Bad Company 2 - it makes the game so much more enjoyable. 1943 was cool to see that the engine can do a more tropical theme set in the Pacific. I know Rockstar's graphics engine isn't Euphoria, it was all I had on my mind but that still does change the physics which change how the visuals look in motion, but I know that it's RAGE. Red Dead Redemption and GTA 4 + expansions look great.
All of these 3 beat Killzone by miles in variety and functionality. Frost Bite has changed the way we play FPS's, finally a developer that doesn't promote camping. I'm avoiding Halo because I know so many will object to, but there's an easy 4th engine that beats it, IMHO.
[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]
[QUOTE="SwagSurf"]
Silly, the title says Killzone 3 and they are talking about it as well; too bad lemmings dont have a realistic game like KZ2 :(
SwagSurf
I really wouldnt call Killzone 2 realistic...at all, its about as realistic as Gears just a little bit better graphically.
What makes Gears so realistic? Just curious because iv'e played both of them and the one I enjoyed the most was the first one.
I wouldnt call either of them realistic, that was more the point I was trying to get across.
edit:oooh your talking gameplay wise arent you? I thought you meant as far as graphics went, sorry thats my bad there.
Ok so we got better character models, Better lighting, better dust and smoke physics, better bullet effects, AA and 720p. How is this not impressive to you? Oh wait... Where did I say it was not impressive? go ahead take your time, look for it. Better lighting is bs, it's a subjective judgment based on how lighting is handled. Both games run at 720p, but KZ2 doesn't use AA, it uses QAA. And what the hell is better character model suppose to mean?[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="themyth01"] Their other reason was the collision of bullets with the environment which produce dust, yes dust, how freaking impressive is dust from shooting things, that's it.
themyth01
Wasn't too hard to find. You make it sound like that's the only thing KZ2 has going for it and it's not at all impressive. Better lighting is BS? Tell that to Alan Wake fans. And lighting is not subjective. You either have crappy baked lighting like gears or real lighting light KZ2. I find that you're trying to dismiss the faults of Gears 2 yet ignore the triumphs of KZ2.
QAA is still an AA technique that delivers similar AA to 2xMSAA with a blur filter.
Character modes are everything. Would you like Master chief to look like a smoother pile of cylyders or a proportional super soldier with definitive armor and design? What kind of question is that?
I hear it's for a 2010 release. I guess they're gonna show that it doesn't take them long at all to make games. The holiday reall wont be that far off from their 2 year birthday.This looks hot.
But I wish they would not show so many damn images with the release date (most likely) sooooo far away.
Over-saturation = bad.
Chutebox
Damn hoping to play as the Helghans to be honest. What are we going to wipe them out compltely this time i mean hell there home planet was taken during Killzone 2. Plus the main character and his mates really GRATED on my in Killzone 2 Rico and that guy with the heavy machine gun just need to be put to rest immediately.
The game is shaping up nicely, look forward to GG releasing more info / gameplay vids about the game... Its surely my most anticipated fps game :)
The gears screens i've seen so far are close ups on the characters. I saw one which had a terrible 2D backdrop. My guess is that they have the models ready but not the levels. Like always though, I hate just seeing pics. I wanna see some gameplay videos from both.the gears 3 screens look better and seems like a better game too.
KBFloYd
Funny they seem to be split. Some say It looks exactly like KZ2, others say bullshot. So some people are obviously in denial.Whats with people saying these are bullshots? they obviously arent :|
zarshack
[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]Is this Killzone 2? I can't really tell..ChuteboxCome on, you can make a better attempt then that! I could, but didn't feel like it. But on a serious note, if I were to put some K2 images next to these I doubt you could notice any differences graphically.
[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]Is this Killzone 2? I can't really tell..xsubtownerxCome on, you can make a better attempt then that! I could, but didn't feel like it. But on a serious note, if I were to put some K2 images next to these I doubt you could notice any differences graphically. It's hard to tell with pics. We need to see what ign saw.
[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]
Looks outdated for consoles... So many low res textures...
One of the best looking console games is outdated on its own platform? How does that make any sense? There is almost no difference between the visuals of this and Killzone 2...aside from the addition of 3D, and Killzone 2 came out a year ago. Not to mention other titles such as Uncharted 2 and GOW3 have released.One of the best looking console games is outdated on its own platform? How does that make any sense?[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]
Looks outdated for consoles... So many low res textures...
zarshack
you forgot that KZ3 is a PS3 exclusive and sequel so authomatically some people will find say it looks exactly like KZ2 and looks 'ugly'..
People forget that :-
1) The game is like 11 months away from release so still time to sharpen more the visuals (Still not expecting KZ3 to be 5x better looking than KZ2)
2) We only saw a small part of a level with a structure similar to what was shown in KZ2.. GG said there will be much more variety in locations, so who knows maybe with a little bit colour & some Trees/leaves thrown in some levels it will please more haters :)
3) People didnt notice that Guns/Charaters/Enemies are much more detailed and already look better..
4) People didnt notice the game is already being praised for its better cover system, shooting mechanics,melee attacks, AI and sound :) (apparently those dont count when judging if a sequel is better)
One of the best looking console games is outdated on its own platform? How does that make any sense?[QUOTE="zarshack"]
[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]
Looks outdated for consoles... So many low res textures...
Malta_1980
you forgot that KZ3 is a PS3 exclusive and sequel so authomatically some people will find say it looks exactly like KZ2 and looks 'ugly'..
People forget that :-
1) The game is like 11 months away from release so still time to sharpen more the visuals (Still not expecting KZ3 to be 5x better looking than KZ2)
2) We only saw a small part of a level with a structure similar to what was shown in KZ2.. GG said there will be much more variety in locations, so who knows maybe with a little bit colour & some Trees/leaves thrown in some levels it will please more haters :)
3) People didnt notice that Guns/Charaters/Enemies are much more detailed and already look better..
4) People didnt notice the game is already being praised for its better cover system, shooting mechanics,melee attacks, AI and sound :) (apparently those dont count when judging if a sequel is better)
I agree with you definitely but i would like to say that i dont mind people saying its the same.In those pictures textures and characters look bit better then KZ2 but there is no dark so lightning cant come to full impression so it looks bit bland.Just like these 2 Crysis 2 shoots.What we need to see is game in motion,it will definitely look great.
BTW,very few people say it looks the same,its generally high praise in comparison with Gears 3 or Reach where ALOT of cows said they look exactly the same as games before while they dont look remotely like them :)
[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]
you forgot that KZ3 is a PS3 exclusive and sequel so authomatically some people will find say it looks exactly like KZ2 and looks 'ugly'..
People forget that :-
1) The game is like 11 months away from release so still time to sharpen more the visuals (Still not expecting KZ3 to be 5x better looking than KZ2)
2) We only saw a small part of a level with a structure similar to what was shown in KZ2.. GG said there will be much more variety in locations, so who knows maybe with a little bit colour & some Trees/leaves thrown in some levels it will please more haters :)
3) People didnt notice that Guns/Charaters/Enemies are much more detailed and already look better..
4) People didnt notice the game is already being praised for its better cover system, shooting mechanics,melee attacks, AI and sound :) (apparently those dont count when judging if a sequel is better)
Bus-A-Bus
I agree with you definitely but i would like to say that i dont mind people saying its the same.In those pictures textures and characters look bit better then KZ2 but there is no dark so lightning cant come to full impression so it looks bit bland.Just like these 2 Crysis 2 shoots.What we need to see is game in motion,it will definitely look great.
BTW,very few people say it looks the same,its generally high praise in comparison with Gears 3 or Reach where ALOT of cows said they look exactly the same as games before while they dont look remotely like them :)
well obviously what i said about KZ3 applies to all games including Halo3 & Geow3... unfortunately when talking about consoles we cannot expect always to see a significant improvement over visuals with every sequel.. Its not like we can increase RAM or change the video Card for PS3 & 360, so its harder for devs to make sequels look much better.
As regards KZ3 its also being stated by devs that levels will be larger with bigger open areas, so that is also another thing to keep in mind... :)
One of the best looking console games is outdated on its own platform? How does that make any sense?[QUOTE="zarshack"]
[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]
Looks outdated for consoles... So many low res textures...
Malta_1980
you forgot that KZ3 is a PS3 exclusive and sequel so authomatically some people will find say it looks exactly like KZ2 and looks 'ugly'..
People forget that :-
1) The game is like 11 months away from release so still time to sharpen more the visuals (Still not expecting KZ3 to be 5x better looking than KZ2)
I don't see them improving thing like textures very much in that time.
2) We only saw a small part of a level with a structure similar to what was shown in KZ2.. GG said there will be much more variety in locations, so who knows maybe with a little bit colour & some Trees/leaves thrown in some levels it will please more haters :)
Not visuals related
3) People didnt notice that Guns/Charaters/Enemies are much more detailed and already look better..
They don't look better... or more detailed...
4) People didnt notice the game is already being praised for its better cover system, shooting mechanics,melee attacks, AI and sound :) (apparently those dont count when judging if a sequel is better)
Again not visuals related
Also your right I must haveforgot the fact its a PS3 exclusive and therefore it mustautomatically be"Teh Graphics Kingz!!"[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]
[QUOTE="zarshack"]One of the best looking console games is outdated on its own platform? How does that make any sense?
NVIDIATI
you forgot that KZ3 is a PS3 exclusive and sequel so authomatically some people will find say it looks exactly like KZ2 and looks 'ugly'..
People forget that :-
1) The game is like 11 months away from release so still time to sharpen more the visuals (Still not expecting KZ3 to be 5x better looking than KZ2)
I don't see them improving thing like textures very much in that time.
2) We only saw a small part of a level with a structure similar to what was shown in KZ2.. GG said there will be much more variety in locations, so who knows maybe with a little bit colour & some Trees/leaves thrown in some levels it will please more haters :)
Not visuals related
3) People didnt notice that Guns/Charaters/Enemies are much more detailed and already look better..
They don't look better... or more detailed...
4) People didnt notice the game is already being praised for its better cover system, shooting mechanics,melee attacks, AI and sound :) (apparently those dont count when judging if a sequel is better)
Again not visuals related
Also your right I must haveforgot the fact its a PS3 exclusive and therefore it mustautomatically be"Teh Graphics Kingz!!"if you saw nothing from the things i mentioned than its not even worth discussing KZ3 with you.. you keep your thoughts and i keep mine...
I guess we both are somehow biased in an opposite way :) we'll eventually see who was right once the final game gets released...
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