Ninja Gaiden II Receives 8.7 from IGN...

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#51 silentobi
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I really do not know know what that guy was expecting. But 8.7 is a great score, the game's framerate drop when there was 100 + enemies on screen and they were all atacking. I'm waiting for the GS review.
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#52 xTHExJUICEx
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[QUOTE="Zoomin"]

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]looks like mgs 4 will get goty because there surely is no other game out now or coming soon that deserves that title.-Renegade

Except for GTA4 of course

It will be one sad day if that overrated garbage recieves GOTY.

Yea I would be pretty upset if GTA4 gets GOTY, I dont know I just was never blown away by the game.

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#53 Immortal_Evil
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[QUOTE="Zoomin"]

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]looks like mgs 4 will get goty because there surely is no other game out now or coming soon that deserves that title.-Renegade

Except for GTA4 of course

It will be one sad day if that overrated garbage recieves GOTY.

I agree, but why would you think NG would be the only other contender for GOTY?
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#54 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="Couth_"]They docked it for frame rate btw, guys..soulsofblayck

Shocking, to be honest. No NG iterration before this one has had framerate issues of any kind. I look forward to hearing more about this.

And I see they didn't do any better on the story. an 8.0 there is very unsuprising, yet we hoped for better.

They said "OUR review build" so the framerate might not be included within the final product.

Then they better make an offiical statement. Why they wouldn't give IGN a "gone gold" copy when the game is due out in only a couple weeks (which means mass-production has begun) is beyond me.
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#55 Couth_
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

and they say theres frame rate problems for their "review build".

justforlotr2004

Link to a review build controversy for NG2?

Hu? Im commenting from their review, and what has happened in the past. I have no idea if this is the same situation, and we wont know till the game is released.

They did state it was for their review build. Like lost Odyssey. but the final version of LO did suffer from frame rate problems, and long loading, just maybe not as bad. And I can't imagine the framerate being THAT improved from a review build to the final build, especially when its as bad as described.
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#56 Juggernaut140
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What was it hyped?
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#57 *zoomin
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[QUOTE="Zoomin"]

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]looks like mgs 4 will get goty because there surely is no other game out now or coming soon that deserves that title.-Renegade

Except for GTA4 of course

It will be one sad day if that overrated garbage recieves GOTY.

Well its such polished garbage that I guess a lot of people thought it deserved its score... yet somehow you know that MGS4 will be great and deserve it...

Anyway... another good action game... excellent

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#58 I_Helios_I
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Only gamespot review counts here cows, but nice try thought..LordoftheVacas

No one here has even put down Ninja Gaiden 2 lmfao everyone is actually surprised by it and are complimenting it so what the hell is anyone in this thread actually trying to pull off exactly?

Gamespot isn't the only review publication or site available on the mass hysteria that is the worldwide web you know. Their are plenty of others out there in my opinion that carry even more weight then the Gamespot review scores.

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#59 Dreams-Visions
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I guess...it's a flop huh? according to lemmings's logic.dkhw
No, that'll be according to System Wars logic.

And No because this is not a GameSpot score.

It was hyped AAA here. If it doesn't get AAA from GameSpot, it's a flop. IGN's score doesn't matter when it comes to a game flopping here or not.

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#60 jrpgliker
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well, a bit lower than expected, but still great , better than dmc4.
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#61 bayareahusla
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stigma 2 OTW

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#62 Dreams-Visions
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What was it hyped?Juggernaut140
AAA, of course. All of its predecessors (NG, Black, Sigma) were AAA.
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#63 AgentA-Mi6
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I expect a big fat 9.5 from gamespot.
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#64 silentobi
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What was it hyped?Juggernaut140
There wasn't a real hype thread but we were expecting AAA.
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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]

"The only trouble is that our review build had trouble maintaining a solid framerate throughout the adventure. Quite a few times when there were explosions on screen the game would start chugging. Late in the game when the levels toss huge numbers of enemies at you the game would crawl. Occasionally this was actually cool -- when things move a bit slower you can actually appreciate the artful movements on screen -- but more often it left me a bit disappointed that the framerate wasn't locked down."

If this game was released on PS3 this issue would not have happpened. Ninja Gaiden Sigma ran flawlessly on PS3 @60 fps and in 1080p!

Dreams-Visions

NG: Sigma is 720p upscaled. and I see no reason to make any assumptions about what would or would not have happened on another platform.

Oh I am for sure within the next year or so we will find out for sure. :D

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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]

"The only trouble is that our review build had trouble maintaining a solid framerate throughout the adventure. Quite a few times when there were explosions on screen the game would start chugging. Late in the game when the levels toss huge numbers of enemies at you the game would crawl. Occasionally this was actually cool -- when things move a bit slower you can actually appreciate the artful movements on screen -- but more often it left me a bit disappointed that the framerate wasn't locked down."

If this game was released on PS3 this issue would not have happpened. Ninja Gaiden Sigma ran flawlessly on PS3 @60 fps and in 1080p!

LordoftheVacas



False, NG sigma is 720 and it doesnt even look near as good as NG2,but nice try cow.

edit : you forgot to add '' frame rate problems for their "review build".''

Yeah I was about to say, there is no way that NG Sigma runs at native 1080p at 60 fps.

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#67 yellowandmushy
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http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/ninja-gaiden-ii/review/ninja-gaiden-2/a-20080525223739365094/g-20070820115628554022/p-3

Gamesradar review.

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well, a bit lower than expected, but still great , better than dmc4.jrpgliker
it's actually the same score they gave DMC4
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#69 MikeE21286
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wow, surprised at that score.......kinda disappointed. Normally NG gets AAA at IGN as well as GS.
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#70 jbz7890
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looks like mgs 4 will get goty because there surely is no other game out now or coming soon that deserves that title.-Renegade

This makes no sense. MGS4 isn't even out yet and GTA4 already got a 10. MGS4 may flop just like NG2.

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#71 Couth_
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http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/ninja-gaiden-ii/review/ninja-gaiden-2/a-20080525223739365094/g-20070820115628554022/p-3

Gamesradar review.

yellowandmushy
That's ouch... a 7? :?
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"The only trouble is that our review build had trouble maintaining a solid framerate throughout the adventure. Quite a few times when there were explosions on screen the game would start chugging. Late in the game when the levels toss huge numbers of enemies at you the game would crawl. Occasionally this was actually cool -- when things move a bit slower you can actually appreciate the artful movements on screen -- but more often it left me a bit disappointed that the framerate wasn't locked down."

If this game was released on PS3 this issue would not have happpened. Ninja Gaiden Sigma ran flawlessly on PS3 @60 fps and in 1080p!

-Renegade
sigma was 720p, and i love how u dont even mention where the reviewer says that the game had frame rate issues when there were about 100 enemies on the screen :|
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Gamesradar review.

yellowandmushy

7?! :?

WTF is up with this game. Scores are definitely lower than I expected.

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[QUOTE="soulsofblayck"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="Couth_"]They docked it for frame rate btw, guys..Dreams-Visions

Shocking, to be honest. No NG iterration before this one has had framerate issues of any kind. I look forward to hearing more about this.

And I see they didn't do any better on the story. an 8.0 there is very unsuprising, yet we hoped for better.

They said "OUR review build" so the framerate might not be included within the final product.

Then they better make an offiical statement. Why they wouldn't give IGN a "gone gold" copy when the game is due out in only a couple weeks (which means mass-production has begun) is beyond me.

The same thing happend to Lost Odessy. The reviews said the load times were some times up to 30 seconds or longer, but in the retail copy they were only 5-10 seconds at most.

"I haven't seen this many loading screens since I played the first Resident Evil. And I'm not trying to be funny. The framerate also has a bad habit of falling off during some of the picture-in-picture cut-scenes. And, for whatever reason, the framerate is always at its worst during combat intros."

I never had anywhere close to the problems described here in Lost Odessy.

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#75 xTHExJUICEx
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Gamesradar review.

yellowandmushy

Yea you can tell that reviewer couldnt stand the difficulty.

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#76 NAPK1NS
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[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"]Called it!Immortal_Evil
What did you call?

The score. :|

Nice job connecting the dots there.

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#77 yellowandmushy
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[QUOTE="yellowandmushy"]

Gamesradar review.

MikeE21286

7?! :?

WTF is up with this game. Scores are definitely lower than I expected.

They gave it a 7 beacuse it was hard. :? WTF! That makes no sense. :|
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#78 Immortal_Evil
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[QUOTE="Immortal_Evil"][QUOTE="NAPK1NS"]Called it!NAPK1NS

What did you call?

The score. :|

Nice job connecting the dots there.

You called the IGN score? Umm wow, congratulations.
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#79 justforlotr2004
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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="yellowandmushy"]

Gamesradar review.

yellowandmushy

7?! :?

WTF is up with this game. Scores are definitely lower than I expected.

They gave it a 7 beacuse it was hard. :? WTF! That makes no sense. :|

Yeah I dont understand that either, didn't he even add an easier level than any NG before it? Why not play it on the easiest level if your having problems with the difficulty.

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#80 LordoftheVacas
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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="yellowandmushy"]

Gamesradar review.

yellowandmushy

7?! :?

WTF is up with this game. Scores are definitely lower than I expected.

They gave it a 7 beacuse it was hard. :? WTF! That makes no sense. :|



I agree those reviewers should dedicate their time reviewing games like cooking mama and crap like that.. bu bu the game is so hard :cry: ..
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#81 Couth_
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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="yellowandmushy"]

Gamesradar review.

yellowandmushy

7?! :?

WTF is up with this game. Scores are definitely lower than I expected.

They gave it a 7 beacuse it was hard. :? WTF! That makes no sense. :|

The IGN review said it knocked it for difficulty too. Stating there is a boss battle where he unexpectadly explodes and if your not ready you will die too, so even if you beat him you might have to fight him several times for that fact. That's not even challenging, that's just BS...
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#82 xTHExJUICEx
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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="yellowandmushy"]

Gamesradar review.

yellowandmushy

7?! :?

WTF is up with this game. Scores are definitely lower than I expected.

They gave it a 7 beacuse it was hard. :? WTF! That makes no sense. :|

Personally it makes sense to me, I couldnt stand playing or at least trying to play DMC3 and Sigma because of the difficulty.

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#83 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

lemmings will not have a happy holiday today. this news will make GameSpot AAA that seemed so sure so...unsure.

xTHExJUICEx

I think you should put the popcorn away, its already really late and I dont think you're gonna see many 10 year olds up right now complaining about the score.

Bro, I've got 3 bags in the cabinet. all waiting to be popped.
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#84 gohan2710
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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="yellowandmushy"]

Gamesradar review.

yellowandmushy

7?! :?

WTF is up with this game. Scores are definitely lower than I expected.

They gave it a 7 beacuse it was hard. :? WTF! That makes no sense. :|

:lol: why are u surprised? this is nothing new, specially knowing that most people find the game too difficult
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#85 justforlotr2004
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[QUOTE="yellowandmushy"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="yellowandmushy"]

Gamesradar review.

Couth_

7?! :?

WTF is up with this game. Scores are definitely lower than I expected.

They gave it a 7 beacuse it was hard. :? WTF! That makes no sense. :|

The IGN review said it knocked it for difficulty too. Stating there is a boss battle where he unexpectadly explodes and if your not ready you will die too, so even if you beat him you might have to fight him several times for that fact. That's not even challenging, that's just BS...

lol yeah that does sound a bit over the top.

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#86 Malta_1980
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am not a fan of the NG seriesm but hey 8.7 is a great score.... In my opinion 10/10 scores are in a way ridiculous since no game deserves a perfect score...

Ng2 got a great score and fans of the series should be happy and just enjoy the game... I'll do the same with MGSIV even if it gets an 8/10 score or less... afterall we play games not for the scores reviewers give to games but for pure personal fun...

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EGM gave this game a A,A-, A-...i'll take them over lamesradar opinion
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looks like mgs 4 will get goty because there surely is no other game out now or coming soon that deserves that title.-Renegade

:lol:

Unless MGS4 scores a 10 (Which I doubt) GOTY will go to GTAIV.

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#89 silentobi
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[QUOTE="yellowandmushy"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="yellowandmushy"]

Gamesradar review.

justforlotr2004

7?! :?

WTF is up with this game. Scores are definitely lower than I expected.

They gave it a 7 beacuse it was hard. :? WTF! That makes no sense. :|

Yeah I dont understand that either, didn't he even add an easier level than any NG before it? Why not play it on the easiest level if your having problems with the difficulty.

Why even review it if you can't even do NORMAL MODE? :?
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#90 justforlotr2004
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[QUOTE="yellowandmushy"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="yellowandmushy"]

Gamesradar review.

xTHExJUICEx

7?! :?

WTF is up with this game. Scores are definitely lower than I expected.

They gave it a 7 beacuse it was hard. :? WTF! That makes no sense. :|

Personally it makes sense to me, I couldnt stand playing or at least trying to play DMC3 and Sigma because of the difficulty.

As long as its done in a challanging way I don't think it should effect the score in a negative way, but if the AI uses cheap tactics that you have no way to counter I could understand.

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#91 killerfist
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SW flop confirmed

btw gamesradar 7.0 wtf??

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Personally it makes sense to me, I couldnt stand playing or at least trying to play DMC3 and Sigma because of the difficulty.

xTHExJUICEx
and this is why games nowadays are to easy, cuz of people like you......thats why i always loved arcade games since they were alot more challenging than next gen games
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#94 NAPK1NS
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[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"]

[QUOTE="Immortal_Evil"][QUOTE="NAPK1NS"]Called it!Immortal_Evil

What did you call?

The score. :|

Nice job connecting the dots there.

You called the IGN score? Umm wow, congratulations.

... thanks..?

Weirdo.

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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]looks like mgs 4 will get goty because there surely is no other game out now or coming soon that deserves that title.SpinoRaptor

:lol:

Unless MGS4 scores a 10 (Which I doubt) GOTY will go to GTAIV.

I believe in what you doubt, Mgs4 can easily win the goty :wink:
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#96 silentobi
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[QUOTE="yellowandmushy"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="yellowandmushy"]

Gamesradar review.

Couth_

7?! :?

WTF is up with this game. Scores are definitely lower than I expected.

They gave it a 7 beacuse it was hard. :? WTF! That makes no sense. :|

The IGN review said it knocked it for difficulty too. Stating there is a boss battle where he unexpectadly explodes and if your not ready you will die too, so even if you beat him you might have to fight him several times for that fact. That's not even challenging, that's just BS...

Yeah that's BS, but is that enough reason to knock down a game's score? I'm ok with the score but seriously...
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Good Score loved the first one and I will be buying a 360 to play this game along with the oh\ther great titles coming out this year.
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I guess my prediction came true. :( NG2 is being knocked down for being "too hard" just like another PS3 exclusive...
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#99 xTHExJUICEx
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[QUOTE="xTHExJUICEx"]

Personally it makes sense to me, I couldnt stand playing or at least trying to play DMC3 and Sigma because of the difficulty.

gohan2710

and this is why games nowadays are to easy, cuz of people like you......thats why i always loved arcade games since they were alot more challenging than next gen games

Must be why Im loving this gen so much :D

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#100 SHuN_G0Ku
Member since 2008 • 480 Posts

if NG2 flops here at Gamespot does that mean...

"This gen will start with MGS4" - Rob Smith = TRUE??