Ninja Gaiden II Receives 8.7 from IGN...

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#201 Pro_wrestler
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Why are reviews coming out based on old builds that have frame rate problems?, they were told to wait for retail copies of the game as these issues are fixed.

I just can't take reviews seriously anymore, it's like they are done by children who are running as fast as they can to win da race. Just pathetic.

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They have review builds that they recieve well before the game releases. I don't see the reasoning behind Team Ninja's decision on sending a buggy build, like someone said you'll want the best representation possible for your product.

On another note though, its up the the publication to deliver the most precise review possible so that no damage is done to your reputation if your known for citing unapplicable errors with whatever game you reviewing.

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#203 therealmcc0y
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Dont ever compare this game to the brilliance that is MGS4

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#204 carljohnson3456
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ZOmG!!! DiS WAZ SUpoZEd TO Be AAA!!!! EPhIc FAiL!!!! - if you work with fanboy logic :)

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I fixed it for ya, lol. All fanboys do it man.

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#205 NinjaMunkey01
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[QUOTE="LordoftheVacas"][QUOTE="Taalon"][QUOTE="LordoftheVacas"]Only gamespot review counts here cows, but nice try thought..XturnalS



Damage control already? The game isn't even out yet :|

Sorry, but if the game gets a 1/10 everywhere but Gamespot, it won't matter. Gamespot isn't the only thing that counts here.



Gamespot forums = gamespot reviews only counts,follow the rule,or otherwise go post somewhere else cow.

oh plz u were one making fun of haze for its 4.5 from IGN till the GS score came out. so hahah eat it lems u have a great flop on your hands, ur mighty AAA title that was supposed to rival MGS4 has flopped!!! HAHAHA

exactly, if 360 fanboys are going to use IGN reviews for games they must accept that the ps3 fanboys will too.

Fact is this game was hyped to be amazing, it got 8.5, which is still great.

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#206 ZimpanX
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If this game was released on PS3 this issue would not have happpened. Ninja Gaiden Sigma ran flawlessly on PS3 @60 fps and in 1080p!

-Renegade

Wrong, It runs at 720p and it does have slowdown, it doesn't happen often but still, and sometimes even mid-fight loading. I also heard that the framerate and loading issues might be fixed in the retail version of NG2.

But back to topic, expected a little higher but that's a great score, can't wait. :)

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#207 etbny22
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[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="Taalon"][QUOTE="silentobi"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]

IGN

NG2-8.7

Sigma-9.3:)

RazMaTaz-1

It doesn't work like that..



Why not? PS3 port of an Xbox game gets a better score than a brand new Xbox 360 game of the same franchise...

IGN =/= Gamepot or maybe the first one was just better for its time than the second one.

according to IGN, Devil May Cry 4 is on paar, if not better than NG2, and Sigma has outscored NG2. Funny how Itagaki was bashing NGS :lol: What comes around goes around

why are we comparing the first games score to the 2nd game......thats like doing this IGN Scores: NG(xbox): 9.4 NG Sigma(PS3): 9.3 Oh snap an xbox games scored higher than the ps3 version!
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#208 therealmcc0y
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[QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"][QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="Taalon"][QUOTE="silentobi"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]

IGN

NG2-8.7

Sigma-9.3:)

etbny22

It doesn't work like that..



Why not? PS3 port of an Xbox game gets a better score than a brand new Xbox 360 game of the same franchise...

IGN =/= Gamepot or maybe the first one was just better for its time than the second one.

according to IGN, Devil May Cry 4 is on paar, if not better than NG2, and Sigma has outscored NG2. Funny how Itagaki was bashing NGS :lol: What comes around goes around

why are we comparing the first games score to the 2nd game......thats like doing this IGN Scores: NG(xbox): 9.4 NG Sigma(PS3): 9.3 Oh snap an xbox games scored higher than the ps3 version!

Its a remake isnt it?

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#209 Adrian_Cloud
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Shockwave"]Basically the builds we got (as well as the same builds other sites got) were early builds that arrived a couple weeks back. Typically we don't get builds for review that early. I'm guessing this time around, they wanted us to have ample time to really play through the game. Knowing the higher level of difficulty involved with the Ninja Gaiden series, a little extra time to play is a good idea...however this meant that the builds we got were a little earlier than what's supposed to show up on the retail builds.

In the note we got with the review builds, this was mentioned, and recently (Friday) we also got note that the framerate/load times were most notably a result of the builds not being final.

so the final, retail version should be more optimized and so forth...

In most cases, we get a review build a week or so before the game's release, so the code is usually identical to retail code. This time, it came almost a month before the game's release, which meant they were made with not so final code...

The problem is, there are sites out there now basing their score on this...and some are pointing out these issues that should hopefully be addressed.


The dilemma for us was to either hit the embargo, and cash in on all the page views and attention we'd get for getting the review up ASAP, or get it up later, after many other sites post theirs...we choose the later in order to ensure a more accurate review.

...

It's a crapy postion for us because sure we'd love to have our review up now, but we want to make sure our review well reflects the game's final performance. Sure we are going to lose some of the wind in the sails by holding it and not having it up right now along with the rest of the sites that went ahead and posted theirs, but oh well...

Still, it does somewhat burn my chaps to see it up elsewhere while we are still sitting on it...because of something that was out of our control.tubbyc

Link.Link2.

surely someone would want to see this info. lol.

That's a relief. NG is not the kind of game where you would want the frame rate bogging down when you're in the middle of concentrating on something. Hopefully it will be really solid when it's released.

dude read the IGN review...it RARELY happens. So it wouldn't make that much difference in a review.

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#210 LordoftheVacas
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[QUOTE="tubbyc"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Shockwave"]Basically the builds we got (as well as the same builds other sites got) were early builds that arrived a couple weeks back. Typically we don't get builds for review that early. I'm guessing this time around, they wanted us to have ample time to really play through the game. Knowing the higher level of difficulty involved with the Ninja Gaiden series, a little extra time to play is a good idea...however this meant that the builds we got were a little earlier than what's supposed to show up on the retail builds.

In the note we got with the review builds, this was mentioned, and recently (Friday) we also got note that the framerate/load times were most notably a result of the builds not being final.

so the final, retail version should be more optimized and so forth...

In most cases, we get a review build a week or so before the game's release, so the code is usually identical to retail code. This time, it came almost a month before the game's release, which meant they were made with not so final code...

The problem is, there are sites out there now basing their score on this...and some are pointing out these issues that should hopefully be addressed.


The dilemma for us was to either hit the embargo, and cash in on all the page views and attention we'd get for getting the review up ASAP, or get it up later, after many other sites post theirs...we choose the later in order to ensure a more accurate review.

...

It's a crapy postion for us because sure we'd love to have our review up now, but we want to make sure our review well reflects the game's final performance. Sure we are going to lose some of the wind in the sails by holding it and not having it up right now along with the rest of the sites that went ahead and posted theirs, but oh well...

Still, it does somewhat burn my chaps to see it up elsewhere while we are still sitting on it...because of something that was out of our control.Adrian_Cloud

Link.Link2.

surely someone would want to see this info. lol.

That's a relief. NG is not the kind of game where you would want the frame rate bogging down when you're in the middle of concentrating on something. Hopefully it will be really solid when it's released.

dude read the IGN review...it RARELY happens. So it wouldn't make that much difference in a review.



No, they used a flawed disc, i will wait for the review that counts in this forum and thats gamespot review, u can take you IGN REVIEW somewhere else.
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#211 Supafly1
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looks like mgs 4 will get goty because there surely is no other game out now or coming soon that deserves that title.-Renegade

What about GTA IV?

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#212 -Karmum-
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looks like mgs 4 will get goty because there surely is no other game out now or coming soon that deserves that title.-Renegade

Good score, but it will or was never considered GOTY by many, except hardcore NG fans.

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#214 sdu_1111
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This will be rather contrasting ... IGN giving NG2 a 8.7 ... what will IGN give MGS4 then? (rmb ign was invited to japan, they were indeed impressed by mgs4)

anyway, kinda stupid of the developers to give an unfinish built to IGN ..

Haha, there'll be threads on whos playing better exclusives !!!

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#215 Eltroz
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looks like mgs 4 will get goty because there surely is no other game out now or coming soon that deserves that title.-Renegade
Oh sweet you have played the game. tell us about it since the game is not even out. I mean you must have played it already to know it is better then any other game comming out this year. Oh also what was Gears 2 or Spore or starcraft or all the other games like since a lot of the goty maybe games are not out yet?

See how fanboyish it is to say a game that is not even out is already the goty winner?

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#216 therealmcc0y
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This will be rather contrasting ... IGN giving NG2 a 8.7 ... what will IGN give MGS4 then? (rmb ign was invited to japan, they were indeed impressed by mgs4)

anyway, kinda stupid of the developers to give an unfinish built to IGN ..

Haha, there'll be threads on whos playing better exclusives !!!

sdu_1111

They will give MGS4 9.5+

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#217 dgsag
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What a DIRTY FLOP. LEMMINGS were hyping this AAA.
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#219 thegoldenpoo
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What a DIRTY FLOP. LEMMINGS were hyping this AAA.dgsag

the gamespot reveiw aint come out yet. IGN tends to be pretty harsh when it wants to. it gave NMH a 7.5 when GS gave it 9.0 so it could still be AAA. 8.7 is VERY close

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#220 mingo123
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i smell flop :D
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As far as I can tell this is away for the Ps3 folks to get their pride back for Haze. Sure NG2 didn't get a 9 but is better than just about three fourths of a PS3 games. So back off .
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#222 Arjdagr8
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its a good score and everything but the reviews sounds like it should be at least a 9. what the hell is this lack of flavour thing they talk about?
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#223 Zeliard9
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Well, Eurogamer just gave it a 7, docking points almost exclusively because they feel the difficulty is too high and the camera is poor. If a high difficulty and camera problems are really the only complaints reviewers have about NG2, that's something I can live with.
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#224 thrones
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Hmm.... I was expecting an AAA, and quietly realising this may outscore MGS4...

Ah well..

*phew*

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#225 cosmostein77
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looks like mgs 4 will get goty because there surely is no other game out now or coming soon that deserves that title.-Renegade

GTA IV FTW

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#226 cosmostein77
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As far as I can tell this is away for the Ps3 folks to get their pride back for Haze. Sure NG2 didn't get a 9 but is better than just about three fourths of a PS3 games. So back off .360ru13r

If it scores an 8.5 at GS, (in theory)

PS3 will only have one exclusive title that will have outscored it, they are still waiting for their Kameo killer.

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#227 vicmackey39
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flopping to the left and flopping to the right

will this be a flop? it just might

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#228 thrones
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[QUOTE="360ru13r"]As far as I can tell this is away for the Ps3 folks to get their pride back for Haze. Sure NG2 didn't get a 9 but is better than just about three fourths of a PS3 games. So back off .cosmostein77

If it scores an 8.5 at GS, (in theory)

PS3 will only have one exclusive title that will have outscored it, they are still waiting for their Kameo killer.

It's still a flop by System Wars standards.

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#229 d-suhiti
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looks like mgs 4 will get goty because there surely is no other game out now or coming soon that deserves that title.-Renegade

Grand Theft Auto IV

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#230 manny280
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Sigma=9.3

NG2=8.7

NG2 is the same thing but with more stuff added to it and better graphics :|

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looks like mgs 4 will get goty because there surely is no other game out now or coming soon that deserves that title.-Renegade

Spore?

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#232 bstarter29
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Still a very solid score, but due to AAA hype, it flopped.

I think that 8.5 here for NG2 is much more of a reality now.

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#233 thepwninator
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looks like mgs 4 will get goty because there surely is no other game out now or coming soon that deserves that title.-Renegade

Haha. Spore and Starcraft 2 come to mind...

You, BTW, have been added to "the list"...

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#234 GUNpoint_
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Great score. Really want to check it out.m_machine024


yeah, great score.. if it was any other game :|
seriously, i expected a 9.5 from this game..