Ninja Gaiden II Receives 8.7 from IGN...

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They said the framerate also dropped whenever there was an explosion...And like they stated, it's beyond difficulty. It's just BS. These are the same guys who gave the original and Black a 9.4... It's not like they are NG n00bs
justforlotr2004

We dont know that for sure, we just know the review build has some issues. The final version very well could have the same problems, but we wont know untill its released.

lol I can see the lemmings using this a whole lot today if things dont level out.

[QUOTE="soulsofblayck"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="Couth_"]They docked it for frame rate btw, guys..Dreams-Visions

And I see they didn't do any better on the story. an 8.0 there is very unsuprising, yet we hoped for better.

They said "OUR review build" so the framerate might not be included within the final product.

[QUOTE="Taalon"][QUOTE="LordoftheVacas"]Only gamespot review counts here cows, but nice try thought..LordoftheVacas

oh plz u were one making fun of haze for its 4.5 from IGN till the GS score came out. so hahah eat it lems u have a great flop on your hands, ur mighty AAA title that was supposed to rival MGS4 has flopped!!! HAHAHA

[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="silentobi"]

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They said the framerate also dropped whenever there was an explosion...And like they stated, it's beyond difficulty. It's just BS. These are the same guys who gave the original and Black a 9.4... It's not like they are NG n00bs
silentobi

We dont know that for sure, we just know the review build has some issues. The final version very well could have the same problems, but we wont know untill its released.

yeah tell that to the guy who reviewed uncharted or DMC3 and how they docked it for being too hard....I always think that being hard can be fun to some extent but NG is infamous for its difficulty.

yeah tell that to the guy who reviewed uncharted or DMC3 and how they docked it for being too hard....I always think that being hard can be fun to some extent but NG is infamous for its difficulty.

XturnalS

im saying that reviewers have in the past taken into account difficulty in the scoring so having that in there as a neg shouldn't be surprising to anyone because not everyone wants a extremely hard game.XturnalS

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They said the framerate also dropped whenever there was an explosion...And like they stated, it's beyond difficulty. It's just BS. These are the same guys who gave the original and Black a 9.4... It's not like they are NG n00bs
silentobi

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They said the framerate also dropped whenever there was an explosion...And like they stated, it's beyond difficulty. It's just BS. These are the same guys who gave the original and Black a 9.4... It's not like they are NG n00bs
Taalon

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killzowned24

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It might be but no one knows for sure...silentobi

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silentobi

Somewhat dissapointing. Im hoping that the retail version really doesnt have the issues mentioned in the review, but i have to say, its very sloppy to send out a build for review, and then just expect everyone to wait for you to fix issues.

Still, Lost Oddyssey had similar issues, and whilst the review text changed, the scores tended not to.

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[QUOTE="silentobi"]It might be but no one knows for sure...Taalon

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looks like mgs 4 will get goty because there surely is no other game out now or coming soon that deserves that title.-Renegade

There are still games that are on the chopping block for GOTY.

OMG :roll:silentobi

looks like mgs 4 will get goty because there surely is no other game out now or coming soon that deserves that title.-Renegade

It will be annihilated by "Grand Theft Auto IV".

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]looks like mgs 4 will get goty because there surely is no other game out now or coming soon that deserves that title.ArisShadows

There are still games that are on the chopping block for GOTY.

[QUOTE="silentobi"] OMG :roll:Taalon

Playing Ninja Gaiden 2 is a very different experience to playing the majority of games. No other game I've ever played is as rewarding so often. Whether it's for simply beating a wave of blood-thirsty bats or for finally slaying a boss you've been tearing your hair out over for more than an hour, the sense of reward and gratification is practically unrivalled. For every level you beat you feel like you're becoming a better gamer and that's a feeling that very few games can claim to give. This is action gaming at its very best. 9/10

Seems pretty glowing to me.

[QUOTE="Taalon"][QUOTE="silentobi"] OMG :roll:Dreams-Visions

Playing Ninja Gaiden 2 is a very different experience to playing the majority of games. No other game I've ever played is as rewarding so often. Whether it's for simply beating a wave of blood-thirsty bats or for finally slaying a boss you've been tearing your hair out over for more than an hour, the sense of reward and gratification is practically unrivalled. For every level you beat you feel like you're becoming a better gamer and that's a feeling that very few games can claim to give. This is action gaming at its very best. 9/10

Seems pretty glowing to me.

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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]looks like mgs 4 will get goty because there surely is no other game out now or coming soon that deserves that title.Taalon

There are still games that are on the chopping block for GOTY.

Because 10s don't always wins, because there are still other games out there. Simple as that.

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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]looks like mgs 4 will get goty because there surely is no other game out now or coming soon that deserves that title.Taalon

There are still games that are on the chopping block for GOTY.

Well when giving that score they compare it to other games in the genre. They thought it excelled past the last iterations, but that doesn't mean they think its the best game of the year.

Well when giving that score they compare it to other games in the genre. They thought it excelled past the last iterations, but that doesn't mean they think its the best game of the year.

justforlotr2004

Let me repeat: GTAIV got 10/10. That's the best score a game is going to get this year. That clearly means it's the best game this year. There's no reason why it shouldn't get GOTY.Taalon

1. Games have gotten 10s in the past and weren't GOTY. Didn't I just say that.

2. We are on the month of may and aren't finish with the year, so how can it be declared.

3. Being 10 doesn't proclaim it being best, it being rated high. A game with a below rating can be a GOTY with reason. GTA4 could have broken ground in the sandbox genre, gaining it 10, but another game could be overall a better game of the year.

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Well when giving that score they compare it to other games in the genre. They thought it excelled past the last iterations, but that doesn't mean they think its the best game of the year.

Taalon

Yeah don't get me wrong I don't think really see a 8 or below getting GOTY since it was most likely not even the best game in its genre. Though a game thats 9 or 9.5 could definatly take the cake when it comes to GOTY, not because of the score but because its one of the top games in the genre. Thats why comparing game scores are really hard, especially when its broken down into sub catogories with games like Gears and KZ2. Gears and KZ2 are both shooters but they are in different sub-genre's making the comparison inevitable, but not practical.

[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

Well when giving that score they compare it to other games in the genre. They thought it excelled past the last iterations, but that doesn't mean they think its the best game of the year.

Taalon

Basically the builds we got (as well as the same builds other sites got) were early builds that arrived a couple weeks back. Typically we don't get builds for review that early. I'm guessing this time around, they wanted us to have ample time to really play through the game. Knowing the higher level of difficulty involved with the Ninja Gaiden series, a little extra time to play is a good idea...however this meant that the builds we got were a little earlier than what's supposed to show up on the retail builds.

In the note we got with the review builds, this was mentioned, and recently (Friday) we also got note that the framerate/load times were most notably a result of the builds not being final.

so the final, retail version should be more optimized and so forth...

In most cases, we get a review build a week or so before the game's release, so the code is usually identical to retail code. This time, it came almost a month before the game's release, which meant they were made with not so final code...

The problem is, there are sites out there now basing their score on this...and some are pointing out these issues that should hopefully be addressed.

The dilemma for us was to either hit the embargo, and cash in on all the page views and attention we'd get for getting the review up ASAP, or get it up later, after many other sites post theirs...we choose the later in order to ensure a more accurate review.

...

It's a crapy postion for us because sure we'd love to have our review up now, but we want to make sure our review well reflects the game's final performance. Sure we are going to lose some of the wind in the sails by holding it and not having it up right now along with the rest of the sites that went ahead and posted theirs, but oh well...

Still, it does somewhat burn my chaps to see it up elsewhere while we are still sitting on it...because of something that was out of our control.Shockwave

Link.Link2.

surely someone would want to see this info. lol.

surely someone would want to see this info. lol.

Dreams-Visions

We have seen it, your posting the same damage control across multiple threads.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

surely someone would want to see this info. lol.

tenaka2

We have seen it, your posting the same damage control across multiple threads.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

surely someone would want to see this info. lol.

tenaka2

We have seen it, your posting the same damage control across multiple threads.

And you are posting the same uneducated comments across multiple threads. Point being?

[QUOTE="Shockwave"]Basically the builds we got (as well as the same builds other sites got) were early builds that arrived a couple weeks back. Typically we don't get builds for review that early. I'm guessing this time around, they wanted us to have ample time to really play through the game. Knowing the higher level of difficulty involved with the Ninja Gaiden series, a little extra time to play is a good idea...however this meant that the builds we got were a little earlier than what's supposed to show up on the retail builds.

In the note we got with the review builds, this was mentioned, and recently (Friday) we also got note that the framerate/load times were most notably a result of the builds not being final.

so the final, retail version should be more optimized and so forth...

In most cases, we get a review build a week or so before the game's release, so the code is usually identical to retail code. This time, it came almost a month before the game's release, which meant they were made with not so final code...

The problem is, there are sites out there now basing their score on this...and some are pointing out these issues that should hopefully be addressed.

The dilemma for us was to either hit the embargo, and cash in on all the page views and attention we'd get for getting the review up ASAP, or get it up later, after many other sites post theirs...we choose the later in order to ensure a more accurate review.

...

It's a crapy postion for us because sure we'd love to have our review up now, but we want to make sure our review well reflects the game's final performance. Sure we are going to lose some of the wind in the sails by holding it and not having it up right now along with the rest of the sites that went ahead and posted theirs, but oh well...

Still, it does somewhat burn my chaps to see it up elsewhere while we are still sitting on it...because of something that was out of our control.Dreams-Visions

Link.Link2.

surely someone would want to see this info. lol.

That's a relief. NG is not the kind of game where you would want the frame rate bogging down when you're in the middle of concentrating on something. Hopefully it will be really solid when it's released.

looks like mgs 4 will get goty because there surely is no other game out now or coming soon that deserves that title.-Renegade

Whos forgot about GTA 4 ??

[QUOTE="silentobi"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]

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where is the demo,Haze has a online co-op demo.killzowned24

Why are reviews coming out based on old builds that have frame rate problems?, they were told to wait for retail copies of the game as these issues are fixed.

I just can't take reviews seriously anymore, it's like they are done by children who are running as fast as they can to win da race. Just pathetic.

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angelkimne

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according to IGN, Devil May Cry 4 is on paar, if not better than NG2, and Sigma has outscored NG2. Funny how Itagaki was bashing NGS :lol: What comes around goes around

Why are reviews coming out based on old builds that have frame rate problems?, they were told to wait for retail copies of the game as these issues are fixed.

I just can't take reviews seriously anymore, it's like they are done by children who are running as fast as they can to win da race. Just pathetic.

Nick_D7

Not as pathetic as a reputable developer sending out old and buggy builds for review, and then expecting everyone to drop everything and wait for them while they fix it.