Ninja Gaiden Sigma and Ninja Gaiden Black Same Game?(POLL) They Are Results here

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#101 Timstuff
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[QUOTE="Timstuff"]This poll really isn't fair since it's two factions against one. The sheep and lemmings do not want to admit that there's any reason to own a PS3 at this point, so does anyone honestly think that the majority of voters will vote NGS as an exclusive? I refuse to aknowledge the results of this poll in any future arguments.CaseyWegner

just acknowledge logic behind the non-fanboys who voted yes.

And what about the non-fanboys who voted no? Uh-oh, see what I just did? :o

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#102 Timstuff
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Yes. It's like REmake. Sure, it's fantastic, it looks great, and the gameplay has been tweaked to perfection, but I'm still essentially playing the original Resident Evil.Michael85

REmake was a GC exclusive. There's no way around it.

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#103 Timstuff
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[QUOTE="D3monchicken"]This is the worst use of a sticky that i have possibly ever seen. All system wars mods should be ashamed of themselves.CaseyWegner

heaven forbid we make an attempt to resolve a long standing, controversial issue. :o

That's like in the south when they had a bunch of racist white guys vote not to give black people voting rights. The wrong people are making the descision.

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#104 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]This poll really isn't fair since it's two factions against one. The sheep and lemmings do not want to admit that there's any reason to own a PS3 at this point, so does anyone honestly think that the majority of voters will vote NGS as an exclusive? I refuse to aknowledge the results of this poll in any future arguments.Timstuff

just acknowledge logic behind the non-fanboys who voted yes.

And what about the non-fanboys who voted no? Uh-oh, see what I just did? :o

don't listen to them. :|

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#105 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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I voted 'yes'.

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#106 Timstuff
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Whatever. It's not like some dumb poll is gonna change wether or not Ninja Gaiden Sigma is an awesome game and a good reason to buy a PS3.
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#107 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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Whatever. It's not like some dumb poll is gonna change wether or not Ninja Gaiden Sigma is an awesome game and a good reason to buy a PS3.Timstuff
True. Awesome game - check.

Reason to buy a PS3? HAH!

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#108 Timstuff
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[QUOTE="Timstuff"]Whatever. It's not like some dumb poll is gonna change wether or not Ninja Gaiden Sigma is an awesome game and a good reason to buy a PS3.Jandurin

True. Awesome game - check.

Reason to buy a PS3? HAH!

Anyone who buys a system just for one game is cheating themself. But when you've got NGS, Resistance, and the slew of solid exclusives coming this fall, that's incentive. Like I said, NGS is a reason, not the reason.

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#109 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]Whatever. It's not like some dumb poll is gonna change wether or not Ninja Gaiden Sigma is an awesome game and a good reason to buy a PS3.Timstuff

True. Awesome game - check.

Reason to buy a PS3? HAH!

Anyone who buys a system just for one game is cheating themself. But when you've got NGS, Resistance, and the slew of solid exclusives coming this fall, that's incentive. Like I said, NGS is a reason, not the reason.

Fair enough. I would call it 'something to buy once you already HAVE a PS3' not 'a reason to get one', but that's close enough.
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#110 solidgamer
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i voted yes
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#111 -Spock-
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They are both pretty much the same game, bar the extra PS3 exclusive content and better graphics. There was even some stuff taken out of Sigma. Ninja Gaiden Sigma is exclusive in name alone.

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#112 jonny2x4
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Sigma is an expansion in the same way that Black was; Sigma is exclusive content, not an exclusive game. A rose by any other name is still a rose. Or at least I think rose should be in there >_>
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#113 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="D3monchicken"]This is the worst use of a sticky that i have possibly ever seen. All system wars mods should be ashamed of themselves.Timstuff

heaven forbid we make an attempt to resolve a long standing, controversial issue. :o

That's like in the south when they had a bunch of racist white guys vote not to give black people voting rights. The wrong people are making the descision.

That is the worst analogy ever used on the boards.

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#114 ironcreed
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I cannot believe that we are still having this debate, lol. Is it really so hard to understand that Sigma is a remake with exclusive content? So in that sense, it is not entirely the same game as Black, but it is not an exclusive either. It is just an enhanced remake of Black that also has PS3 exclusive content. That's it....end of story.
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#115 istreakforfood
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="D3monchicken"]This is the worst use of a sticky that i have possibly ever seen. All system wars mods should be ashamed of themselves.Timstuff

heaven forbid we make an attempt to resolve a long standing, controversial issue. :o

That's like in the south when they had a bunch of racist white guys vote not to give black people voting rights. The wrong people are making the descision.

wow i cant believe u said that. horrible analogy. i also find it offensive you compared inequality/prejudice african americans had to endure in the past to whether sigma is exclusive or not.

its the same game with added extras. Sigma didnt get some stuff that were on ng/ngb as well, but nonetheless its the same game. i bet you havent even played them.

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#116 jeoung91
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let me guess...

Cows are picking No, It's a PS3 exclusive

Lems are picking Yes, I think they're the same

and Sheeps will pick I never played NG/Don't like it

Anyways +1 to PS3 Exclusive

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#117 CaseyWegner
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let me guess...

Cows are picking No, It's a PS3 exclusive

Lems are picking Yes, I think they're the same

and Sheeps will pick I never played NG/Don't like it

Anyways +1 to PS3 Exclusive

jeoung91

it would actually be in the lemming's best interest to vote exclusive. i guess they're finally being objective, though.

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#118 The_Game21x
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I think they are the same game. Last generation RE 1 was remade for the Gamecube, rebuilt completely from the ground up for the Gamecube with extra content, and more and it was not considered exclusive. Well, the same thing applies to NGS and now those same folks who said the REmake wasn't exclusive have double standards.

We can't change the rules now. Hell, if we start inventing new variations on the word "exclusive" which in this case would be "remake exclusive" or something like that then what's to stop people from using the term console exclusive?

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#119 astiop
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[QUOTE="jeoung91"]

let me guess...

Cows are picking No, It's a PS3 exclusive

Lems are picking Yes, I think they're the same

and Sheeps will pick I never played NG/Don't like it

Anyways +1 to PS3 Exclusive

CaseyWegner

it would actually be in the lemming's best interest to vote exclusive. i guess they're finally being objective, though.

Thank you, that's what Ive bin trying to say in my last post in this thread.

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#120 DeadMan1290
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I think they are the same game. Last generation RE 1 was remade for the Gamecube, rebuilt completely from the ground up for the Gamecube with extra content, and more and it was not considered exclusive. Well, the same thing applies to NGS and and now those same folks who said the REmake wasn't exclusive have double standards.

We can't change the rules now. Hell, if we start inventing new variations on the word "eclusive" which in this case would be "remake exclusive" or something like that then what's to stop people from using the term console exclusive?

The_Game21x

That's what many people hace been trying to tell Cows, but they're so stubborn that they still actually say that NGS is a PS3 exclusive because it has the word Sigma written on it...Is that logical??

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#121 DeadMan1290
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let me guess...

Cows are picking No, It's a PS3 exclusive

Lems are picking Yes, I think they're the same

and Sheeps will pick I never played NG/Don't like it

Anyways +1 to PS3 Exclusive

jeoung91

In what way, shape or form is NGS a PS3 exclusive???

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#122 D0013ER
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[QUOTE="jeoung91"]

let me guess...

Cows are picking No, It's a PS3 exclusive

Lems are picking Yes, I think they're the same

and Sheeps will pick I never played NG/Don't like it

Anyways +1 to PS3 Exclusive

DeadMan1290

In what way, shape or form is NGS a PS3 exclusive???

Because he just said so!? GAWL!...

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#123 DeadMan1290
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[QUOTE="DeadMan1290"][QUOTE="jeoung91"]

let me guess...

Cows are picking No, It's a PS3 exclusive

Lems are picking Yes, I think they're the same

and Sheeps will pick I never played NG/Don't like it

Anyways +1 to PS3 Exclusive

D0013ER

In what way, shape or form is NGS a PS3 exclusive???

Because he just said so!? GAWL!...

Lol....That's a nice way of explaining your opinion...

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#124 ski11buzz
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but then again. NGS is a BETTER experience than black. you could definalty say that sigma helps justify the purchase of a ps3 due to the fact that it is a great game. theyre same game, but different experiences imo
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#125 terdoo
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Ya its just the same game with a few extra features and better graphics.
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but then again. NGS is a BETTER experience than black. you could definalty say that sigma helps justify the purchase of a ps3 due to the fact that it is a great game. theyre same game, but different experiences imoski11buzz

Same game, different experience?...So just because NGS is on PS3 it makes NGB a worthless game, and being that they're the same thing??

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let me guess...

Cows are picking No, It's a PS3 exclusive

Lems are picking Yes, I think they're the same

and Sheeps will pick I never played NG/Don't like it

Anyways +1 to PS3 Exclusive

jeoung91

Actually if NGS was allowed to be considered exclusive than that would make Guitar Hero 2 and GTA4 360 exclusives. Likewise, Sheep would gain RE4: Wii edition as an exclusive, so it's actually in everyone's best interest to vote no.

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#128 DeadMan1290
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[QUOTE="jeoung91"]

let me guess...

Cows are picking No, It's a PS3 exclusive

Lems are picking Yes, I think they're the same

and Sheeps will pick I never played NG/Don't like it

Anyways +1 to PS3 Exclusive

TyrantDragon55

Actually if NGS was allowed to be considered exclusive than that would make Guitar Hero 2 and GTA4 360 exclusives. Likewise, Sheep would gain RE4: Wii edition as an exclusive, so it's actually in everyone's best interest to vote yes.

Well that's what cows are trying to say

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#129 ski11buzz
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[QUOTE="ski11buzz"]but then again. NGS is a BETTER experience than black. you could definalty say that sigma helps justify the purchase of a ps3 due to the fact that it is a great game. theyre same game, but different experiences imoDeadMan1290

Same game, different experience?...So just because NGS is on PS3 it makes NGB a worthless game, and being that they're the same thing??

no i mean look at RE4 for instance. there are more than one way to play a game. i own all ninja gaiden games on xbox and i own sigma. i never said that NGB was worthless. what i did say is that they took black and improved it for the PS3 COMMUNITY. like i said, its the same game but a different experience on both consoles

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#130 D0013ER
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[QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="jeoung91"]

let me guess...

Cows are picking No, It's a PS3 exclusive

Lems are picking Yes, I think they're the same

and Sheeps will pick I never played NG/Don't like it

Anyways +1 to PS3 Exclusive

DeadMan1290

Actually if NGS was allowed to be considered exclusive than that would make Guitar Hero 2 and GTA4 360 exclusives. Likewise, Sheep would gain RE4: Wii edition as an exclusive, so it's actually in everyone's best interest to vote yes.

Well that's what cows are trying to say

Not quite, cows want to have their cake and eat it too. They want Sigma exclusive but don't want to acknowledge GRAW2, GH, GTAIV, or RE4 as exclusive as well.

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#131 FusionApex
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Their incredibly identical, but still very cool.
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#132 Infernal246
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Same game, different versions, not exclusive.
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#133 DeadMan1290
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[QUOTE="DeadMan1290"]

[QUOTE="ski11buzz"]but then again. NGS is a BETTER experience than black. you could definalty say that sigma helps justify the purchase of a ps3 due to the fact that it is a great game. theyre same game, but different experiences imoski11buzz

Same game, different experience?...So just because NGS is on PS3 it makes NGB a worthless game, and being that they're the same thing??

no i mean look at RE4 for instance. there are more than one way to play a game. i own all ninja gaiden games on xbox and i own sigma. i never said that NGB was worthless. what i did say is that they took black and improved it for the PS3 COMMUNITY. like i said, its the same game but a different experience on both consoles

Well if that's what you tried to say then my bad:p

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#134 ski11buzz
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[QUOTE="ski11buzz"][QUOTE="DeadMan1290"]

[QUOTE="ski11buzz"]but then again. NGS is a BETTER experience than black. you could definalty say that sigma helps justify the purchase of a ps3 due to the fact that it is a great game. theyre same game, but different experiences imoDeadMan1290

Same game, different experience?...So just because NGS is on PS3 it makes NGB a worthless game, and being that they're the same thing??

no i mean look at RE4 for instance. there are more than one way to play a game. i own all ninja gaiden games on xbox and i own sigma. i never said that NGB was worthless. what i did say is that they took black and improved it for the PS3 COMMUNITY. like i said, its the same game but a different experience on both consoles

Well if that's what you tried to say then my bad:p

its cool. i just dont get why people think theyre different games. its a remake for crying out loud

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#135 DeadMan1290
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[QUOTE="DeadMan1290"][QUOTE="ski11buzz"][QUOTE="DeadMan1290"]

[QUOTE="ski11buzz"]but then again. NGS is a BETTER experience than black. you could definalty say that sigma helps justify the purchase of a ps3 due to the fact that it is a great game. theyre same game, but different experiences imoski11buzz

Same game, different experience?...So just because NGS is on PS3 it makes NGB a worthless game, and being that they're the same thing??

no i mean look at RE4 for instance. there are more than one way to play a game. i own all ninja gaiden games on xbox and i own sigma. i never said that NGB was worthless. what i did say is that they took black and improved it for the PS3 COMMUNITY. like i said, its the same game but a different experience on both consoles

Well if that's what you tried to say then my bad:p

its cool. i just dont get why people think theyre different games. its a remake for crying out loud

Exactly that's what I've been trying to make people undersatnd Ninja Gaiden Sigma is a remake not an exclusive, yet people STILL vote it's a PS3 exclusive

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#136 gamergeekgeek
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[QUOTE="DeadMan1290"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="jeoung91"]

let me guess...

Cows are picking No, It's a PS3 exclusive

Lems are picking Yes, I think they're the same

and Sheeps will pick I never played NG/Don't like it

Anyways +1 to PS3 Exclusive

D0013ER

Actually if NGS was allowed to be considered exclusive than that would make Guitar Hero 2 and GTA4 360 exclusives. Likewise, Sheep would gain RE4: Wii edition as an exclusive, so it's actually in everyone's best interest to vote yes.

Well that's what cows are trying to say

Not quite, cows want to have their cake and eat it too. They want Sigma exclusive but don't want to acknowledge GRAW2, GH, GTAIV, or RE4 as exclusive as well.

lol

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#137 darthogre
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Technically they are not the same game but it shouldn't count as an exculsive sense the core of the game is exactly the same. You put sigma alpha omega ect.....but in the end the game is the same aside from the few bonus levels.

Do you play the game any differently (aside from playing as the woman)? Are the majority of the levels the same?

It's not the same gamebut it can't be counted as an exclusive based on the game is generally the same.

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#138 DeadMan1290
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Technically they are not the same game but it shouldn't count as an exculsive sense the core of the game is exactly the same. You put sigma alpha omega ect.....but in the end the game is the same aside from the few bonus levels.

Do you play the game any differently (aside from playing as the woman)? Are the majority of the levels the same?

It's not the same gamebut it can't be counted as an exclusive based on the game is generally the same.

darthogre

Thank God there are still logical gamers outthere who agree with me and the rest of us who say this game is not-exclusive but Cows still insist on it being an exclusive just because it has the word ''Sigma'' on it and because of the extra content, and also because it's on the PS3:lol:

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#139 kniveshurt18
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The Sigma version is as exclusive to the PS3 as the Black version is to the X-box/360, meaning you can't play Black on PS3 and you can't play Sigma on X/360. The core gameplay is the same. As a VERSION of the game, it is exclusive.
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#140 DeadMan1290
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The Sigma version is as exclusive to the PS3 as the Black version is to the X-box/360, meaning you can't play Black on PS3 and you can't play Sigma on X/360. The core gameplay is the same. As a VERSION of the game, it is exclusive. kniveshurt18

But it's still the same game how does it make it exclusive, so it that means R6: Vegas and Oblivion IV are exclusive to X360 because those VERSIONS are available for X360, doesn't really make much sens

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#141 MADVLAD123
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The Sigma version is as exclusive to the PS3 as the Black version is to the X-box/360, meaning you can't play Black on PS3 and you can't play Sigma on X/360. The core gameplay is the same. As a VERSION of the game, it is exclusive. kniveshurt18

So you would call Guitar Hero 2 for the 360 exclusive and Resident Evil 4 for the wii exclusive as well?

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#142 MADVLAD123
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Anyone find it cool that the total votes are now 360? :P

EDIT: Now its 361 :(

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#143 DeerhunterIA
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It is the same game....
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#144 neo786
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cant beleive this topic even got a sticky...
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#145 kniveshurt18
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[QUOTE="kniveshurt18"]The Sigma version is as exclusive to the PS3 as the Black version is to the X-box/360, meaning you can't play Black on PS3 and you can't play Sigma on X/360. The core gameplay is the same. As a VERSION of the game, it is exclusive. DeadMan1290

But it's still the same game how does it make it exclusive, so it that means R6: Vegas and Oblivion IV are exclusive to X360 because those VERSIONS are available for X360, doesn't really make much sens

Version as in enhanced content and attributes differentiating between versions, not just consoles. Sigma isn't a straight port of Black except in the core gameplay engine and the main structure of the game but also includes content that Black doesn't have. A better example would be how MGS Twin Snakes is an enhanced(?) version only for Gamecube, while Metal Gear Solid 1 can only be played on Playstation format. Not saying it is a fully exclusive game, just that the "Sigma" version with enhanced graphics, side quests and all that make that version of the game exclusive to the PS3
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#146 ringuzi
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saying ngs is exclusive would be like saying the playstation version of re4 was exclusive when it came out because it added a few minor features.
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cant beleive this topic even got a sticky...neo786

so cows will stop whining...hopefully

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#148 DeadMan1290
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saying ngs is exclusive would be like saying the playstation version of re4 was exclusive when it came out because it added a few minor features.ringuzi

That's how I'm seeing it....

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[QUOTE="kniveshurt18"]The Sigma version is as exclusive to the PS3 as the Black version is to the X-box/360, meaning you can't play Black on PS3 and you can't play Sigma on X/360. The core gameplay is the same. As a VERSION of the game, it is exclusive. MADVLAD123

So you would call Guitar Hero 2 for the 360 exclusive and Resident Evil 4 for the wii exclusive as well?

What major additions did GH2 for 360 have over the PS2 version? When I say version, I'm not talking simply "nintendo, sony or microsoft" version, I'm talking about the major content additions added that make the game a seperate version of a game that was released prior. I'm not saying Ninja Giaden Sigma is a fully exclusive title. Resident Evil 4 Wii is arguable, as it provides gameplay content (using the Wii mote) that isn't available in other versions of the game.
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#150 MADVLAD123
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[QUOTE="MADVLAD123"]

[QUOTE="kniveshurt18"]The Sigma version is as exclusive to the PS3 as the Black version is to the X-box/360, meaning you can't play Black on PS3 and you can't play Sigma on X/360. The core gameplay is the same. As a VERSION of the game, it is exclusive. kniveshurt18

So you would call Guitar Hero 2 for the 360 exclusive and Resident Evil 4 for the wii exclusive as well?

What major additions did GH2 for 360 have over the PS2 version? When I say version, I'm not talking simply "nintendo, sony or microsoft" version, I'm talking about the major content additions added that make the game a seperate version of a game that was released prior. I'm not saying Ninja Giaden Sigma is a fully exclusive title. Resident Evil 4 Wii is arguable, as it provides gameplay content (using the Wii mote) that isn't available in other versions of the game.

GH2 for 360 has leaderboards, achievements, better graphics, more songs, and a different guitar controller.

Wii version of RE4 has more missions (assignment ada, separate ways) as well as better graphics, different control, and different unlockable guns and costumes.