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#151 cfamgcn
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It is the same game. Give it up.
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#152 Ragashahs
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why is GRAW considered 360 exclusive when it's pretty much the same as PC version(minor differences like in NGS)
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#153 kniveshurt18
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[QUOTE="kniveshurt18"][QUOTE="MADVLAD123"]

[QUOTE="kniveshurt18"]The Sigma version is as exclusive to the PS3 as the Black version is to the X-box/360, meaning you can't play Black on PS3 and you can't play Sigma on X/360. The core gameplay is the same. As a VERSION of the game, it is exclusive. MADVLAD123

So you would call Guitar Hero 2 for the 360 exclusive and Resident Evil 4 for the wii exclusive as well?

What major additions did GH2 for 360 have over the PS2 version? When I say version, I'm not talking simply "nintendo, sony or microsoft" version, I'm talking about the major content additions added that make the game a seperate version of a game that was released prior. I'm not saying Ninja Giaden Sigma is a fully exclusive title. Resident Evil 4 Wii is arguable, as it provides gameplay content (using the Wii mote) that isn't available in other versions of the game.

GH2 for 360 has leaderboards, achievements, better graphics, more songs, and a different guitar controller.

Wii version of RE4 has more missions (assignment ada, separate ways) as well as better graphics, different control, and different unlockable guns and costumes.

In cases like that, then yes, I would consider those exclusive versions, not fully exclusive titles. Same with Sigma. I don't feel that games can simply be labled Exclusive or Port anymore, not this gen atleast.
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#154 MADVLAD123
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why is GRAW considered 360 exclusive when it's pretty much the same as PC version(minor differences like in NGS)Ragashahs

It's a totally different Gaming experience

There's a reason why the 360 version got a 9.2 while the PC version got a 7.8

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#155 king23_
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[QUOTE="Zeliard9"]Are Ninja Gaiden Black and Ninja Gaiden the same game?DoctorBunny

Yes. Except with added weapons and difficulties and a few other things

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#156 Verge_6
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why is GRAW considered 360 exclusive when it's pretty much the same as PC version(minor differences like in NGS)Ragashahs

..AAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

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#157 De_Bears
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Its the same game. Just upgraded graphics and levels.
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#158 no_submission
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IT. IS . EXCLUXIVE.

Period.

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#159 DeadMan1290
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IT. IS . EXCLUXIVE.

Period.

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:lol::cry::lol: no it ain't

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#160 DeadMan1290
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IT. IS . EXCLUXIVE.

Period.

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:lol::cry::lol: no it ain't

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#161 Sparky04
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why is GRAW considered 360 exclusive when it's pretty much the same as PC version(minor differences like in NGS)Ragashahs

Because they are not minor differences, the Pc has different levels than the 360 version, the story development is different, and the game is in third person for the 360 while the Pc version is FPS. Except for the name and you shooting guns there are few similarities.

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#162 ski11buzz
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[QUOTE="ski11buzz"][QUOTE="gamergeekgeek"][QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]

purdy much the same game if you axe me.

I'm waiting to see if NG2 will be on PS3...

gamergeekgeek

NG2 360 exclusive

UM since when? care to link this because i dont believe you

proof
happy?

"The sequel to the blockbuster action game by Tecmo's heralded Team Ninja , origianlly in development for the original xbox but, according to informal talks with the Team Ninja's Tomonnubo Itagaki, is likely bound for the next-gen xbox system

Note: This game has not been confirmed for release on the xbox 360 , and has also not been confirmed or denied for planning on another system. Please check back for official info."

So like i said, i dont believe you

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#163 Wasdie  Moderator
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Its not a exclusive. It has been done on the Xbox before.
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#164 D3monchicken
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Its not a exclusive. It has been done on the Xbox before.Wasdie

i fail to see the name Ninja Gaiden Sigma on any xbox game case... i must keep missing it :| Exclusives in my eyes are in the name, no other system has a game by the same name? Oh ,it's exclusive then :)

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#165 gamergeekgeek
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]Its not a exclusive. It has been done on the Xbox before.D3monchicken

i fail to see the name Ninja Gaiden Sigma on any xbox game case... i must keep missing it :| Exclusives in my eyes are in the name, no other system has a game by the same name? Oh ,it's exclusive then :)

names don't make a game :|

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#166 PotatoMuffin
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Yes they ARE the same game, imo. It's like asking if GTA4 on 360 and PS3 are the same because the 360 has some extra content.
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#167 loco145
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Yes, they are the same. And i Own a Ps3 :)
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#168 Tactis
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Also i would like to point out if we start making exceptions like this we are going down a slippery slope for instance if NGS is exclusive why isnt Guitar Hero 2 exclusive it has more levels and features than thePS2 version? Is Gears of war ever a "lost"exclusive since according to this that would make the game on the PC version exclusive(new levels, new boss fight)to the PC which would mean the 360 version would still be exclusive to the 360 i mean its endless...
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#169 kingpoopa84
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Man! This thread still going.... looking at the results now it looks pretty much like a runway now...
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#170 DoctorBunny
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Now will the cows shut it? It's over
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#171 D3monchicken
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[QUOTE="D3monchicken"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]Its not a exclusive. It has been done on the Xbox before.gamergeekgeek

i fail to see the name Ninja Gaiden Sigma on any xbox game case... i must keep missing it :| Exclusives in my eyes are in the name, no other system has a game by the same name? Oh ,it's exclusive then :)

names don't make a game :|

Yes, yes they do. I would never consider buying a game by the name of Pee Wee's friends party house, or even Wasdie is a hermit. See? People do also buy games because of the name :)

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#172 Magical_Zebra
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Now will the cows shut it? It's overDoctorBunny

The cows need every exclusive they can get their hands on. Thats why they make such a big deal of it....

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#173 gamergeekgeek
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[QUOTE="gamergeekgeek"][QUOTE="D3monchicken"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]Its not a exclusive. It has been done on the Xbox before.D3monchicken

i fail to see the name Ninja Gaiden Sigma on any xbox game case... i must keep missing it :| Exclusives in my eyes are in the name, no other system has a game by the same name? Oh ,it's exclusive then :)

names don't make a game :|

Yes, yes they do. I would never consider buying a game by the name of Pee Wee's friends party house, or even Wasdie is a hermit. See? People do also buy games because of the name :)

...wow :|

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#174 D3monchicken
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[QUOTE="D3monchicken"][QUOTE="gamergeekgeek"][QUOTE="D3monchicken"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]Its not a exclusive. It has been done on the Xbox before.gamergeekgeek

i fail to see the name Ninja Gaiden Sigma on any xbox game case... i must keep missing it :| Exclusives in my eyes are in the name, no other system has a game by the same name? Oh ,it's exclusive then :)

names don't make a game :|

Yes, yes they do. I would never consider buying a game by the name of Pee Wee's friends party house, or even Wasdie is a hermit. See? People do also buy games because of the name :)

...wow :|

that's it? I was hoping you would disprove me :(

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#175 GundamGuy0
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that's it? I was hoping you would disprove me :(

D3monchicken
This just in, RE4 Wii exclusive to the Wii. XD... ya... keep dreaming.
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#176 D3monchicken
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[QUOTE="D3monchicken"]

that's it? I was hoping you would disprove me :(

GundamGuy0

This just in, RE4 Wii exclusive to the Wii. XD... ya... keep dreaming.

Yep :) Too bad i won't play wii edition, i never plan on owning a wii.

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#177 gamergeekgeek
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[QUOTE="D3monchicken"]

that's it? I was hoping you would disprove me :(

GundamGuy0

This just in, RE4 Wii exclusive to the Wii. XD... ya... keep dreaming.

guitar hero 2 and GTA4 are X360 exclusive too. hooray!

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#178 D3monchicken
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[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="D3monchicken"]

that's it? I was hoping you would disprove me :(

gamergeekgeek

This just in, RE4 Wii exclusive to the Wii. XD... ya... keep dreaming.

guitar hero 2 and GTA4 are X360 exclusive too. hooray!

Nope, share the same name with a game on a different console = not exclusive...

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#179 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="gamergeekgeek"][QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="D3monchicken"]

that's it? I was hoping you would disprove me :(

D3monchicken

This just in, RE4 Wii exclusive to the Wii. XD... ya... keep dreaming.

guitar hero 2 and GTA4 are X360 exclusive too. hooray!

Nope, share the same name with a game on a different console = not exclusive...

stop trolling.

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#180 gamergeekgeek
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[QUOTE="D3monchicken"][QUOTE="gamergeekgeek"][QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="D3monchicken"]

that's it? I was hoping you would disprove me :(

CaseyWegner

This just in, RE4 Wii exclusive to the Wii. XD... ya... keep dreaming.

guitar hero 2 and GTA4 are X360 exclusive too. hooray!

Nope, share the same name with a game on a different console = not exclusive...

stop trolling.

thank you!

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#182 squallff8_fan
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So for all those ppl saying that its the same as black, thats fine and all but then I guess we can all agree then that, those making GTA4 threads saying that the xbox 360 version of GTA4 even with all the episodic content, is nothing big. It will be the same game PS3 owners will enjoy aswell and will be the same all around expirience as the xbox 360 version. So yeah 50 million dollars down the drain for nothing special, still the same game ps3 owners will play aswell.:)
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#184 DoctorBunny
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So for all those ppl saying that its the same as black, thats fine and all but then I guess we can all agree then that, those making GTA4 threads saying that the xbox 360 version of GTA4 even with all the episodic content, is nothing big. It will be the same game PS3 owners will enjoy aswell and will be the same all around expirience as the xbox 360 version. So yeah 50 million dollars down the drain for nothing special, still the same game ps3 owners will play aswell.:)squallff8_fan

Except they didn't pay 50 million for the content. They loaned 50 million and get 100% of it back, making the content completely free :)

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#185 DeadMan1290
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]Its not a exclusive. It has been done on the Xbox before.D3monchicken

i fail to see the name Ninja Gaiden Sigma on any xbox game case... i must keep missing it :| Exclusives in my eyes are in the name, no other system has a game by the same name? Oh ,it's exclusive then :)

An exclusive to me is a game that only appears on ONE console, but it's not exclusive anymore if it's released on another console but with a few extras, and just ONE word to differentiate the game from it's counterpart, Ninja Gaiden Sigma is the same as Ninja Gaiden Black but witha few bonuses and a little stuff they took out from it, so technically it's not an exclusive just because it has the word ''Sigma'' on it doesn't make it an exclusive.

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#186 DeadMan1290
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[QUOTE="squallff8_fan"]So for all those ppl saying that its the same as black, thats fine and all but then I guess we can all agree then that, those making GTA4 threads saying that the xbox 360 version of GTA4 even with all the episodic content, is nothing big. It will be the same game PS3 owners will enjoy aswell and will be the same all around expirience as the xbox 360 version. So yeah 50 million dollars down the drain for nothing special, still the same game ps3 owners will play aswell.:)DoctorBunny

Except they didn't pay 50 million for the content. They loaned 50 million and get 100% of it back, making the content completely free :)

Yeah that's right...And besides the content won't really make the game THAT different from the PS3 version, both versions are the same, none is exclusive wether one has extra content or not.:)

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#187 p2rus
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but there is more than just extra content.

new levels with main character

new levels with new character (rachel) and her weapons

new weapons for main character

new bosses

tweaked boss fights

new units

new hud

new textures

high definition

new physics

new dude working on it

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#188 DeadMan1290
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but there is more than just extra content.

new levels with main character

new levels with new character (rachel) and her weapons

new weapons for main character

new bosses

tweaked boss fights

new units

new hud

new textures

high definition

new physics

new dude working on it

p2rus

Butdoes the main game get changed at all??, story change, completely different bosses, completely different puzzles, completely new weapons and all that? If that's the case then I can it's exclusive if not then it's not an exclusive.

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#189 p2rus
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[QUOTE="p2rus"]

but there is more than just extra content.

new levels with main character

new levels with new character (rachel) and her weapons

new weapons for main character

new bosses

tweaked boss fights

new units

new hud

new textures

high definition

new physics

new dude working on it

DeadMan1290

But those the main game get changed at all??, story change, completely different bosses, completely different puzzles, completely new weapons and all that? If that's the case then I can it's exclusive if not then it's not an exclusive.

if the way that you play a game changes in that many ways and you have that many options to change how you play...then i would say yes it is exclusive. because it does have all of those things

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#190 DeadMan1290
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[QUOTE="DeadMan1290"][QUOTE="p2rus"]

but there is more than just extra content.

new levels with main character

new levels with new character (rachel) and her weapons

new weapons for main character

new bosses

tweaked boss fights

new units

new hud

new textures

high definition

new physics

new dude working on it

p2rus

But those the main game get changed at all??, story change, completely different bosses, completely different puzzles, completely new weapons and all that? If that's the case then I can it's exclusive if not then it's not an exclusive.

if the way that you play a game changes in that many ways and you have that many options to change how you play...then i would say yes it is exclusive. because it does have all of those things

Options and few (Technical) changes, don't make a completely different game nor it makes it an exclusive

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#191 p2rus
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[QUOTE="p2rus"][QUOTE="DeadMan1290"][QUOTE="p2rus"]

but there is more than just extra content.

new levels with main character

new levels with new character (rachel) and her weapons

new weapons for main character

new bosses

tweaked boss fights

new units

new hud

new textures

high definition

new physics

new dude working on it

DeadMan1290

But those the main game get changed at all??, story change, completely different bosses, completely different puzzles, completely new weapons and all that? If that's the case then I can it's exclusive if not then it's not an exclusive.

if the way that you play a game changes in that many ways and you have that many options to change how you play...then i would say yes it is exclusive. because it does have all of those things

Options and few (Technical) changes, don't make a completely different game nor it makes it an exclusive

lol are NEW bosses and NEW units and NEW weapons technical changes?

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#192 haols
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[QUOTE="DeadMan1290"][QUOTE="p2rus"][QUOTE="DeadMan1290"][QUOTE="p2rus"]

but there is more than just extra content.

new levels with main character

new levels with new character (rachel) and her weapons

new weapons for main character

new bosses

tweaked boss fights

new units

new hud

new textures

high definition

new physics

new dude working on it

p2rus

But those the main game get changed at all??, story change, completely different bosses, completely different puzzles, completely new weapons and all that? If that's the case then I can it's exclusive if not then it's not an exclusive.

if the way that you play a game changes in that many ways and you have that many options to change how you play...then i would say yes it is exclusive. because it does have all of those things

Options and few (Technical) changes, don't make a completely different game nor it makes it an exclusive

lol are NEW bosses and NEW units and NEW weapons technical changes?


One new boss, 3 new units and a changed gun wouldn't make a game an exclusive.

It is not enough, imagine RE4, switch all the peasants for something else, change the Village boss and give LEon different weapons.
Is the game still the same or is it new?

IMO it wouldn't be a new game.
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#193 TheCrazed420
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Why does this thread deserve a sticky? Don't we have enough floated threads already?
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#194 Greyhound222
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This is sad that cows think this is exclusive..
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#195 lordxymor
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[QUOTE="ski11buzz"][QUOTE="gamergeekgeek"][QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]

purdy much the same game if you axe me.

I'm waiting to see if NG2 will be on PS3...

gamergeekgeek

NG2 360 exclusive

UM since when? care to link this because i dont believe you

proof
happy?

Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. =P

And legaly speaking, remakes are different products than the original. I had a discussion with my legal department over this the over day.

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#196 Tactis
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[QUOTE="gamergeekgeek"][QUOTE="ski11buzz"][QUOTE="gamergeekgeek"][QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]

purdy much the same game if you axe me.

I'm waiting to see if NG2 will be on PS3...

lordxymor

NG2 360 exclusive

UM since when? care to link this because i dont believe you

proof
happy?

Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. =P

And legaly speaking, remakes are different products than the original. I had a discussion with my legal department over this the over day.

maybe for things other than videogames sure but you cant be serious in terms of video games this could go on forever... next thing would be VF5 is exclusive to 360 because of the added online, GTA4 is exclusive once the bonus levels are in the game, currently Guitar Hero 2 is exclusive because it has more levels, updated graphics and Gears of war is still exclusive to the 360 because the PC version is a different game so technically 360 never lost gears....i mean this could never end we could debate this for soooooooo long

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#197 foxhound_fox
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No. They are not the "same" game. NGB is a remake of NG with added content and NGS is a remake of NGB with added content. They are both "remakes" and are neither "ports" nor "exclusives."
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#198 DeadMan1290
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Why does this thread deserve a sticky? Don't we have enough floated threads already?TheCrazed420

Maybe but it got one so Cows can see and understand the fact that NGS is no exclusive as is a ''remake'' or a ''port'' with bonuses, but there seems to be still stubborn people outhere who still say NGS is exclusive because of the word ''Sigma''

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#199 naval
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Why does this thread deserve a sticky? Don't we have enough floated threads already?TheCrazed420

I guess you don't understand the importance of this topic to system wars. It could increase the number of AAA exclusive cows have by 1 and can't even fathom the repercussions it will have. So don't take such a important topic lightly

On topic, I don't think changes are enough to make this an exclusive

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#200 gamergeekgeek
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This is sad that cows think this is exclusive..Greyhound222

well, they're just desperate for exclusives