Nintendo embraces cheats, more games to have a skip feature.

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#1 hot114
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Source: http://gigazine.net/index.php?/news/comments/20090706_nintendo_skip
translated articleat sankaku complex

Nintendo is said to be planning to accommodate hopeless or merely impatient gamers who get stuck in games by making more of its games feature a "skip" feature, whereby difficult segments may be bypassed entirely.

The measure is to be concentrated on "action" games reliant on speedy reflexes, and will be featuring on both the Wii and DS.

The motivation behind it appears to be a desire to embrace casual gamers whose only experience of a "game" may be Wii Fit; previously some concern at the length of certain games and their ability to be completed by players with careers has prompted similar measures elsewhere.

Proof, as if any were needed, that Nintendo's consoles cater almost exclusively to "casuals"? Of course, cheats are nothing new, but usually they are not promoted as an integral feature of the title...sankaku


What do the people think of how this colossal player in the business is shaping our fafourite hobby?

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#2 sikanderahmed
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Nintendo makes me sad

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#3 HenriH-42
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Gaming is dying.

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Its incredibly smart. Its great for casual players and since its optional it shouldn't matter to core players. It can allow them to make their titles a bit more difficult to please core gamers without frustrating the casual gamer.
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#6 Shinobishyguy
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It's optional you frigging drama queens.

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#7 Jono789
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Gaming is dying.

HenriH-42
How? Cheats have always been here....
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#8 SMR-Venom
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This "Skip" feature. Is it the same as the in-game walkthrough? Maybe if you were to read between the lines, maybe this means the games will be more challenging overall ;) (Although, I am just going by what I think, as I can't read Japanese >_> )
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#10 SMR-Venom
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It's optional you frigging drama queens.

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It's SW, don't bother, although I must say... :lol: /thread
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#11 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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It's no different than cheats, glitches, FAQs and game guides. Things that have been part of gaming for a looong time.
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#12 Mckenna1845
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no big deal, i'm sure most people have used a walkthrough/guide at some time. if this helps newcomers get through more difficult games i don't see the problem. i would much rather have an ingame guide when i'm really stuck then come off the console go on my computer and go to ign or whatever. cheats+guides have been available forever, now they are just easily accessible. you don't have to use them.
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#13 flazzle
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Gaming is dying.

HenriH-42

Too bad drawing premature conclusions isn't...

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#14 wayne_kar
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a-haaa something else for the elistist hardcore to get smug and selfstatified about.

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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]It can allow them to make their titles a bit more difficultSTRETCH-E

This is what sheep actually believe.

I said it can - and don't call me a sheep - I'm not a barnyard animal.
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#16 naval
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Good idea I would say, it is certainly better than reducing the difficulty etc for everyone
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#17 osan0
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cool. will they be cheat codes like in 99% of games...or will they just have an option to turn certain cheats on? given the choice between cheating my way out of a situation or just giving up on the game out of frustration...id go with the former. cheats can also be great fun. once i finish a game i sometimes go back with cheats to have a bit more fun. crysis in god mode with unlimited energy....those poor enemies :P. who can forget getting the stealth suit in MGS and basically bullying the other soldiers. its basically a cheat...and its great :D. cheats for a game like GTA can also be great. set up a little fort for yourself and then set the cop wanted level to maximum.....fun. id love to see some creative cheats that players could use in the game. maybe keep them deactivated until the player has finished it or something...but it could be good fun.
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#18 bc1391
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i cant beleeve this....niteno is catering towards the cazuals with this one. its offishal.. im done with nitedo

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#19 aero250
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[QUOTE="SMR-Venom"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

It's optional you frigging drama queens.

It's SW, don't bother, although I must say... :lol: /thread

True it's the same with the rewind feature in forza 3 it's OPTIONAL.
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#20 SMR-Venom
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i cant beleeve this....niteno is catering towards the cazuals with this one. its offishal.. im done with nitedo

bc1391
I really hope you made those typos on purpose :lol: On a serious note, this is nothing to be alarmed about at all.
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#21 SolidSnake35
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I like the idea. I think it's unfair that some people will pay a lot of money for a game and might only get a little of the content. And if you don't like it, don't use it
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#22 HenriH-42
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[QUOTE="HenriH-42"]

Gaming is dying.

Jono789

How? Cheats have always been here....

I meant the skip feature. What is the point of playing the game if the game plays itself? Just go see a goddamn movie if you don't want to play, ffs.

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How are they shaping it? So what if they have that in, here's a hint, DON'T USE IT. Cheats are in games, do they ruin the game by being there? No. I wish people wouldn't whine about a console they probably don't even have and a feature they don't have to use.
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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]Its incredibly smart. Its great for casual players and since its optional it shouldn't matter to core players. It can allow them to make their titles a bit more difficult to please core gamers without frustrating the casual gamer.

My thoughts exactly. with this feature they don't need to dumb down the difficulty of games.
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#25 hot114
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How are they shaping it? So what if they have that in, here's a hint, DON'T USE IT. Cheats are in games, do they ruin the game by being there? No. I wish people wouldn't whine about a console they probably don't even have and a feature they don't have to use.bobbetybob
It allows... encourages developers to get lazy and promotes inconsistent difficultys within games instead of tweaking to the point where the target audience wont have trouble. Lets face it, a good game will have a consistent dificulty curve if you cant beat level X in a action game chances are high you wont be able to beat X+1.
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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]Its incredibly smart. Its great for casual players and since its optional it shouldn't matter to core players. It can allow them to make their titles a bit more difficult to please core gamers without frustrating the casual gamer.Ontain
My thoughts exactly. with this feature they don't need to dumb down the difficulty of games.

Yeah I agree. Also with this feature didn't the patent say that you can replay any part of the game you wanted again after you already beat the game.

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#27 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="Jono789"][QUOTE="HenriH-42"]

Gaming is dying.

HenriH-42

How? Cheats have always been here....

I meant the skip feature. What is the point of playing the game if the game plays itself? Just go see a goddamn movie if you don't want to play, ffs.

You don't have to use it...I wonder why so many are having a hard time understanding that part?

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#28 deactivated-5e9044657a310
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Because none of the players crying about this feature have ever gone to gamesfaq and looked at walkthrough to get through a section giving them trouble. No they're way too hardcore for that.
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#29 aero250
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Because none of the players crying about this feature have ever gone to gamesfaq and looked at walkthrough to get through a section giving them trouble. No they're way too hardcore for that.Nuck81
Even the most hardcore get stuck.
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#30 Jono789
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[QUOTE="HenriH-42"]

[QUOTE="Jono789"][QUOTE="HenriH-42"]

Gaming is dying.

How? Cheats have always been here....

I meant the skip feature. What is the point of playing the game if the game plays itself? Just go see a goddamn movie if you don't want to play, ffs.

Ohhhhhh sowwy XD
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So quest compasses and hand holding simply wasn't enough for the casual crowed? Now they need games that play themselves on the players behalf?

What's next? Could babying possibly become any worse than this?

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#32 surrealnumber5
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cool now they can make hard games with a skip button so those who are no good can start skip and see the ending, those who like it hard can play all of the way through. this could bring hard games back to gaming! gamers should love this
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#33 SMR-Venom
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So quest compasses and hand holding simply wasn't enough for the casual crowed? Now they need games that play themselves on the players behalf?

What's next? Could babying possibly become any worse than this?

AnnoyedDragon
Yeah, it can get worse. People can put walkthrough videos/documents on the internet, and submit cheat codes to online gaming websites.
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#34 NinjaMunkey01
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Its optional

And when you consoider how many kids have a wii, its a good idea.

At the end of the day younger children are not going to be so bothered about cmpleting a game, its just about the fun. And not being able to do something its incredibly not fun for a little kid =P

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cool now they can make hard games with a skip button so those who are no good can start skip and see the ending, those who like it hard can play all of the way through. this could bring hard games back to gaming! gamers should love thissurrealnumber5
Games have gotten really easy. The majority of hyped titles can be beaten in a few afternoons with almost no danger of failure. It's kind of a gyp, Wii games like Punchout seem the have more challenge than anything I;ve played on my PS3
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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

So quest compasses and hand holding simply wasn't enough for the casual crowed? Now they need games that play themselves on the players behalf?

What's next? Could babying possibly become any worse than this?

SMR-Venom

Yeah, it can get worse. People can put walkthrough videos/documents on the internet, and submit cheat codes to online gaming websites.

OMG! Are you serious! No Nintendo Why!!!!

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#37 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="HenriH-42"]

[QUOTE="Jono789"][QUOTE="HenriH-42"]

Gaming is dying.

How? Cheats have always been here....

I meant the skip feature. What is the point of playing the game if the game plays itself? Just go see a goddamn movie if you don't want to play, ffs.

what part of "it's optional" don't you guys understand?
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#38 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="HenriH-42"]

[QUOTE="Jono789"] How? Cheats have always been here....Shinobishyguy

I meant the skip feature. What is the point of playing the game if the game plays itself? Just go see a goddamn movie if you don't want to play, ffs.

what part of "it's optional" don't you guys understand?

it all depends on what your definition of "it's" is
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#39 pierst179
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I always say the more options the better even if a certain option doesn't appeal to me. Personally I refuse to skip part of Zelda, Mario, Metroid or other games but if you would like to do that, sure go ahead and skip it. If you don't like the feature there is always the nice option of forgetting it exists (aka ignoring it). :)

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I know I should'nt care, but something about playing a game where I could simply skip to the end kind of cheapens it, even if I don't use it. People are praising it because now hard games can be bypassed by casuals and unskilled players. Is'nt this what difficulty levels are for? [QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

So quest compasses and hand holding simply wasn't enough for the casual crowed? Now they need games that play themselves on the players behalf?

What's next? Could babying possibly become any worse than this?

Seriously.
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#41 Brownesque
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Who cares? Games should be played instead of the other way around.
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#42 surrealnumber5
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I always say the more options the better even if a certain option doesn't appeal to me. Personally I refuse to skip part of Zelda, Mario, Metroid or other games but if you would like to do that, sure go ahead and skip it. If you don't like the feature there is always the nice option of forgetting it exists (aka ignoring it). :)

Pierst179
i just hope its one of those pause then hit "x" button to skip kinda deals, some times i skip things when i dont mean to :(
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#43 boredy-Mcbored
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OMG you people are so ignor-rant. :roll: I dobut any of you haven't used a walkthrough or cheats atleast once in your lives. It's not manditory, get over it.

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#44 CreepyBacon
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If you need your hand held playing a nintendo franchise you've got some fairly major problems.

Can't see this being embraced outside of nintendo though, i think most devs have more faith in there players. On the other hand the newest POP game pretty much does this anyway.

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#45 SMR-Venom
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This is just like the rewind feature in Forza 3, optional. I don't see people going crazy over that.
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#46 surrealnumber5
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OMG you people are so ignor-rant. :roll: I dobut any of you haven't used a walkthrough or cheats atleast once in your lives. It's not manditory, get over it.

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man grouping a whole population with varied views is...... ironic
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#47 boredy-Mcbored
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[QUOTE="boredy-Mcbored"]

OMG you people are so ignor-rant. :roll: I dobut any of you haven't used a walkthrough or cheats atleast once in your lives. It's not manditory, get over it.

surrealnumber5

man grouping a whole population with varied views is...... ironic

I was talking about the people who are making a big deal about it. I'm sure you knew what I was talking about anyway.

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#48 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="boredy-Mcbored"]

OMG you people are so ignor-rant. :roll: I dobut any of you haven't used a walkthrough or cheats atleast once in your lives. It's not manditory, get over it.

boredy-Mcbored

man grouping a whole population with varied views is...... ironic

I was talking about the people who are making a big deal about it. I'm sure you knew what I was talking about anyway.

yea just read your post then sig and the "powa of teh cell" compelled me
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#49 Ontain
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[QUOTE="TheGrat1"]I know I should'nt care, but something about playing a game where I could simply skip to the end kind of cheapens it, even if I don't use it. People are praising it because now hard games can be bypassed by casuals and unskilled players. Is'nt this what difficulty levels are for?

difficulty levels don't work for all games. like platformers and some adventure games.
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#50 Head_of_games
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Good, this will allow Nintendo to make more difficult games that will still be playable by unskilled gamers. I wish Okami had this, I'm very much stuck on the stone guardian with five weaknesses.