Nintendo Started Gaming's Destruction: Facts, Evidence, and a History Lesson

Ok, yes, the title is crazy, and no, you're not hallucinating, DarkLink is making an anti-Nintendo thread. But before your head explodes, came down, grab a drink, and hear me out.

Remember back in 1983, when there was this really bad game called E.T.? I mean, it was s***. You were E.T., and you had to go down holes or some s*** to find the pieces of a telephone to call your spaceship. Anyway, it was areallybad game. Like, a .45 going off in your pants bad. "Worst Game Ever"bad.

'Course it was made in like six weeks, but that's not important. Anyway, since the movie was super popular, Atari figured it would sell a f****** of copies, so... they made a f****** of copies.

Unfortunately, it didn't. In fact the game was so bad, Atari had to bury most of the copies in a hole somewhere. That's what you call ironic.

Anyway, the E.T. failure plus a few other issues (Too many game consoles, too many games) basically made it impossible for any gaming company to make enough money to stay afloat. Stores considered the video game fad over, and no one would stock them anymore. So the whole industry went belly up, until Nintendo released the NES and made games "cool" again. Everyone could play the NES. And everyone did. But the casuals couldn't keep up with the change in tech and all the fancy new buttons that accompanied subsequent console releases, and they gradually exited the industry. Until recently.

Nintendo is directly going to be responsible for a second video game crash. With theWii and the DS, they have set us down on a path of destruction.

"HOW?" I hear you gasp, hand flying to your mouth like some woman on a sitcom in the 1950s.

Ironically, they're going to do it by doing the same thing they did to save the video game industry with the NES. By making games for everyone.

Like it or not, traditional console and handheld gaming as we know it is over.Handheldsare being knocked out by smartphones (see the 3DSand the inevitable failure of the Vita), and consoles by multipurpose tablets and streaming devices like Apple TV andOnLive. Or at least, they will be in the near future. Point being, gaming as we knew it is on the way out.

See, this is all Nintendo's fault. With the Wii and the DS, they made gaming accessible and made the masses comfortable with the idea. You ever seen those creepy as all f*** pictures with a bunch of old people who are smiling like vicious cannibals playing a Wiior a DS? Yeah, that s*** actually happened.With the DS and Wii, everyone could play. Including your senile old great-aunt Martha. And shedid. Nintendogs,WiiSports, the whole nine yards. And even worse, she liked it.

So people got comfortable with gaming.

Companies like Apple saw this, and made it easy for their smartphones and tablets to play the same kinds of casual games for next to nothing. Problem is, when you pay jack s*** for something... it's probably not all that great. The games were basically the equivalentof the stuff small children pick out of their noses, but they were cheap to make, and they made a TON of money, because everyone and their hamster can play them, no brain required.

This leads to a glut of cheap cash-ins (see all the clones on iOS), and people begin to start thinking that all games should be this cheap.

But see, this is a fad. Casuals aren't in it for the long haul. They're like magpies. They see a new shiny thing, and they go get it, and they abandon it when there's a slightly shinnier, slightly newer thing. This market ain't gonna keep growing forever. It's gonna peak, like all things do, and regress.

As the "fad" dies out, all the companies that had invested in this s*** (which will basically be everyone so they can stay afloat, see Kinect, the Vita marketplace, etc) to begin are going to find themselves with a disturbing lack of capital. This duplicates the Crash of 1983. Nintendo has started us on the path of another video game crash by doing the same thing it did when it saved us from the crash.

Way to break it, hero.

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Agree, disagree? Am I spouting nonsense? Are you a fan of the garba-, I mean games, that get released on the iOS? Speak out, System Warriors.

Th 3DS is the first part of Nintendo's descent. Nintendo going to crash and burn hard IMO, and Sony will go back to its rightful place in first with Microsoft in second. Nintendo just doesn't care about good games and making good systems anymore IMO, and it'll come back to them. I agree with you.

Handheld gaming got knocked the **** out by piracy. Lower sales = less developer interest. Simple and truthful fact. Apps are shallow, short, and total crap which is why they're sold for a dollar. It does not mean they're better in any way or form, but because it's cheap it sells. It's just like any other product in a market.

There's no damn buttons on a smartphone these days. They'll never overtake handheld gaming. Not to mention piracy is stupidly simple and rising on that platform as well.

*Looks at the topic title and TC*

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Also your spacebar seems to be broken.

We'll see.

Th 3DS is the first part of Nintendo's descent. Nintendo going to crash and burn hard IMO, and Sony will go back to its rightful place in first with Microsoft in second. Nintendo just doesn't care about good games and making good systems anymore IMO, and it'll come back to them. I agree with you.

StealthMonkey4

Says Nintendo doesn't seem to care about making good games or systems anymore, but;

-Microsoft is ditching their core audience and making Kinect titles, while Nintendo is pushing towards the core users more than ever with massive third party support. Nintendo has listened to their fans and created a great new control scheme to make up for the waggle-mote. Microsoft is ignoring users and pushing Kinect and casual software even harder.

Sony seems to be stuck trying to figure out what to do.

*Looks at the topic title and TC*Also your spacebar seems to be broken.

ChubbyGuy40

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]*Looks at the topic title and TC*Also your spacebar seems to be broken.

DarkLink77

Because I've had that gif saved for awhile and needed to use it.

First of all cursing doesn't help your argument any, it just makes you seem immature. There will always be money to be made from real gaming, and as long as the market for them exists so will traditional consoles and handhelds. Even if they take a back seat to the casual audience they will still remain.meetroid8

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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]*Looks at the topic title and TC*Also your spacebar seems to be broken.

ChubbyGuy40

Because I've had that gif saved for awhile and needed to use it.

[QUOTE="crippled_ram"]The DL Legend lives on :lol: :P Anyway, i see one thing flawed in your hypothesis: smarphones, tablets and streaming devices will NEVER kill of dedicated console and handheld gaming, They might make the market smaller, but they won't kill it off. So if there's a crash, it'll be only for smartphones etc. And I'm okay with that, the sooner the fad is over, the better.DarkLink77

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Th 3DS is the first part of Nintendo's descent. Nintendo going to crash and burn hard IMO, and Sony will go back to its rightful place in first with Microsoft in second. Nintendo just doesn't care about good games and making good systems anymore IMO, and it'll come back to them. I agree with you.

ChubbyGuy40

Says Nintendo doesn't seem to care about making good games or systems anymore, but;

-Microsoft is ditching their core audience and making Kinect titles, while Nintendo is pushing towards the core users more than ever with massive third party support. Nintendo has listened to their fans and created a great new control scheme to make up for the waggle-mote. Microsoft is ignoring users and pushing Kinect and casual software even harder.

Sony seems to be stuck trying to figure out what to do.

Microsoft isn't really either, however the 360 has much better games than the Wii does.

I'm not sure what you mean by the last part, Sony is still pumping out new games and has the Move controller but isn't pushing it like Nintendo and MS.

Your theory is flawed. The gaming industry today is far more diversified and much less niche than it was in the 1980s. In the 1980s, video games were primarily marketed at children. Today, the audience is far more vast, and even if Nintendo drags itself down, it means that fewer companies will have to fight over the shrinking pie.

Nintendo will struggle in the years to come, but gaming is more alive than ever. Even if it might move into a different direction.

Your theory is flawed. The gaming industry today is far more diversified and much less niche than it was in the 1980s. In the 1980s, video games were primarily marketed at children. Today, the audience is far more vast, and even if Nintendo drags itself down, it means that fewer companies will have to fight over the shrinking pie.

Nintendo will struggle in the years to come, but gaming is more alive than ever. Even if it might move into a different direction.

The_Capitalist

It's a business dude...try running one and I'm pretty sure your perspective will change.

It's a business dude...try running one and I'm pretty sure your perspective will change.

MarcRecon

This is assuming smartphones will take over the market, which will not happen outside a Apple fanboy's dreams.Famiking

Agreed. Luckily for us BioWare and Naughty Dog are saving it with the superior cinematic experiences that ME2 and UC2 are.IronBass

Pc gaming will always be a safe bastion, it survived the first crash with nary a scratch.

Is it really necessary to curse so many times? :?

Is it really necessary to curse so many times? :?

AvatarMan96

I believe that it's MS who will murder the gaming industry.

They'll keep advertising, promoting Kinect and feeding us with more timed CoD exclusives till every last one of us, is so cynical that we'd rather watch the grass grow.

Agreed. Luckily for us BioWare and Naughty Dog are saving it with the superior cinematic experiences that ME2 and UC2 are.IronBass

And I do agree, Nintendo spent too much time reeling in the casuals. They aren't a bad company, but they need to focus on the TRU FAX.

[QUOTE="IronBass"]Agreed. Luckily for us BioWare and Naughty Dog are saving it with the superior cinematic experiences that ME2 and UC2 are.DarkLink77

[QUOTE="IronBass"]Agreed. Luckily for us BioWare and Naughty Dog are saving it with the superior cinematic experiences that ME2 and UC2 are.DarkLink77

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="IronBass"]Agreed. Luckily for us BioWare and Naughty Dog are saving it with the superior cinematic experiences that ME2 and UC2 are.TrapJak

Both, but Nintendo is more. The only company still heading in the right direction is Sony.

Nintendo have popularised the game console NOT the video game.

People always played games, but Nintendo have found a way of getting people to play more games and integrate it into their lives.

People have always played snake on their phone, or tetris on a browser, or DDR in the arcade. The difference is the way the games are being accessed.

Tablets, smartphones and streaming media is not Nintendo's fault, yes they will take emphasis off the traditional games console. but no it wont kill traditional games.

As long as the market for core games (us) is here there will be a games industry. Nintendo only tapped into what other companies have been trying to crack for years, causing a sudden mainstream popularisation of video games.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="IronBass"]Agreed. Luckily for us BioWare and Naughty Dog are saving it with the superior cinematic experiences that ME2 and UC2 are.meetroid8

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="IronBass"]Agreed. Luckily for us BioWare and Naughty Dog are saving it with the superior cinematic experiences that ME2 and UC2 are.meetroid8

The times, they are a-changing, IB. Cinematic isn't the new hotness anymore. Casual is.DarkLink77

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="IronBass"]Agreed. Luckily for us BioWare and Naughty Dog are saving it with the superior cinematic experiences that ME2 and UC2 are.meetroid8

Great analysis, but it's obvious you placed the blame on Apple, not Nintendo. Willy105

Nintendo kick-started the ball. Apple just picked it up and ran with it. Ninty is the root cause.

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] The times, they are a-changing, IB. Cinematic isn't the new hotness anymore. Casual is.StealthMonkey4

Both, but Nintendo is more. The only company still heading in the right direction is Sony.

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[QUOTE="TrapJak"]So who's heading in the wrong diretion so far, MS or Nintendo?

Willy105

Both, but Nintendo is more. The only company still heading in the right direction is Sony.

Erm... you're taking things a little too literally. And just because you don't play your amazing system that is the PS3 doesn't mean it's going in the wrong direction.

So why do you have to be so selfish and dislike games being made for everyone? You realise the video game industry is entirely different then when Atari was on top? The fact that any poster agreed with you, let alone the second one, concerns me more for the state of gaming. Sony and Microsoft have always made games for everyone. People even make games for the frat boy shooter fan/middle aged military nut/gun nut in COD. Games are for everybody, and each game has something other people will like, and other things that other people will dislike. Didn't anyone's momma teach them that sharing is good?darth-pyschosis

For Nintendo fans, it seems the causals are getting the Oreos, and the hardcores are getting Raisinets. Though that one Raisinet stands tall.