NO physical PS4 console.. PS4 = cloud service ... Confirmed by Gakai head

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="bionictonic"]You realize this story was published by dozens of sites right?

http://www.industrygamers.com/news/sony-or-microsoft-to-bow-out-of-next-gen-console-race-predicts-gaikai/

phonemug

3rd-rate blogs bouncing articles off each other isn't credible journalism.

I mean Sony did buy Gakai :lol:

You guys are ridiculous.

That stretch of logic is laughable...even by someone like you.

[QUOTE="phonemug"]

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

3rd-rate blogs bouncing articles off each other isn't credible journalism.

Gxgear

I mean Sony did buy Gakai :lol:

You guys are ridiculous.

That stretch of logic is laughable...even by someone like you.

2. Sony buys Gakai

Leap in logic? It just happened. You guys are so deluded but you'll eventually catch up.

Like you did with Vita when I said it was going to flop but got called a troll. Hows that going now?

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="phonemug"]So I guess they were psychic blogs right?

I mean Sony did buy Gakai :lol:

You guys are ridiculous.

phonemug

That stretch of logic is laughable...even by someone like you.

2. Sony buys Gakai

Leap in logic? It just happened. You guys are so deluded but you'll eventually catch up.

Like you did with Vita when I said it was going to flop but got called a troll. Hows that going now?

Wait you're not a troll?:shock:

I'm sure I had good reason to call you out on whatever you're accusing me off, assuming you can provide the proof/link for it. I'm enjoying my Vita very much, thank you for asking.

It's pure speculation at this point, regardless of whoever said it (much less a relatively unknown company head until its buyout).

[QUOTE="phonemug"]

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

That stretch of logic is laughable...even by someone like you.

Gxgear

2. Sony buys Gakai

Leap in logic? It just happened. You guys are so deluded but you'll eventually catch up.

Like you did with Vita when I said it was going to flop but got called a troll. Hows that going now?

Wait you're not a troll?:shock:

I'm sure I had good reason to call you out on whatever you're accusing me off, assuming you can provide the proof/link for it. I'm enjoying my Vita very much, thank you for asking.

It's pure speculation at this point, regardless of whoever said it (much less a relatively unknown company head until its buyout).

The truth is coming for you no matter how much you try to deny it ;)

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="phonemug"]1. Gakai cloud gaming head says there is big surprise coming, one of the big 3 is leaving console gaming

2. Sony buys Gakai

Leap in logic? It just happened. You guys are so deluded but you'll eventually catch up.

Like you did with Vita when I said it was going to flop but got called a troll. Hows that going now?

phonemug

Wait you're not a troll?:shock:

I'm sure I had good reason to call you out on whatever you're accusing me off, assuming you can provide the proof/link for it. I'm enjoying my Vita very much, thank you for asking.

It's pure speculation at this point, regardless of whoever said it (much less a relatively unknown company head until its buyout).

The truth is coming for you no matter how much you try to deny it ;)

So...zero relevant answers to all 3 points?:?

You give up too easily.

[QUOTE="phonemug"]

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Wait you're not a troll?:shock:

I'm sure I had good reason to call you out on whatever you're accusing me off, assuming you can provide the proof/link for it. I'm enjoying my Vita very much, thank you for asking.

It's pure speculation at this point, regardless of whoever said it (much less a relatively unknown company head until its buyout).

Gxgear

The truth is coming for you no matter how much you try to deny it ;)

So...zero relevant answers to all 3 points?:?

You give up too easily.

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="phonemug"]Silly Cows.

The truth is coming for you no matter how much you try to deny it ;)

phonemug

So...zero relevant answers to all 3 points?:?

You give up too easily.

Neve rmind, I know that reading comprehension isn't your strong suit.

Definitely would be a good business move for Sony. They don't have the financials to put out another console, and compete with Nintendo/Microsoft. Making a "Playstation Cloud" subscription service that is accessible on the PS3/VITA or any PC would be a great idea. The future of gaming's existence is going to be dependant on new ideas for distribution and interaction (both gameplay and devices; i.e. phones, gamepads, mice/keyboards, etc.) ... not better graphics. The industry isn't in a state where much better graphics would be sustainable. I would love to have a game that I could play at home, and then have a portable, complimentary experience that builds me resources for at home (i.e. playing short minigames on my phone to gain souls and humanity in Dark Souls).Zeviander

Most of the fanboys on this board would rather see Sony continue to get killed financially just so they could pander to their fanboy dreams of powerful hardware.

This is a strategy that will be a lot cheaper for them and may keep them afloat.

So in essense PS4 is going to be Onlive2

Definitely would be a good business move for Sony. They don't have the financials to put out another console, and compete with Nintendo/Microsoft. Making a "Playstation Cloud" subscription service that is accessible on the PS3/VITA or any PC would be a great idea. The future of gaming's existence is going to be dependant on new ideas for distribution and interaction (both gameplay and devices; i.e. phones, gamepads, mice/keyboards, etc.) ... not better graphics. The industry isn't in a state where much better graphics would be sustainable. I would love to have a game that I could play at home, and then have a portable, complimentary experience that builds me resources for at home (i.e. playing short minigames on my phone to gain souls and humanity in Dark Souls).Zeviander

TC fails. The next Xbox is also cloud based.

I don't think this is too far-fetched at all. While I do think the PS4 doing this is a bit premature, in the end it will be what will happen to gaming. It will (and slowly is) turning from a product into a service. In the not too far off future gaming will be just like cable TV. You don't need to be Einstein to see this coming. And from Sony's (or any other's) perspective, why not? There's no publishing costs, piracy wouldn't be such an issue, and their profit margins would increase.

Enjoy your physical media while you can, because rest assured one day they will be gone.

Wait so...let me get this straight. PS4 and 360 rumored to be launching fall of 2013. That's a year and half from now. Yet you guys all think ps4 will just be a cloud streaming service that sony just acquired...TODAY. I'm sorry but the timeline makes no sense if that's all the ps4 is going to be. It takes years to get together everything to launch a new system. Wasn't there an article awhile back sony looked at going digital only but in the end realized gamers around the world don't have the internet connection for this kind of thing yet. Given the announcement only a year and a half till supposed launch I would say this is going to be more of a service part of a larger package such as an actual consolenolson

Using confirmed in the title of a thread and then going on to post a source that doesn't confirm anything in the title should be an automatic ban.

Using confirmed in the title of a thread and then going on to post a source that doesn't confirm anything in the title should be an automatic ban.

DanteSuikoden

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Using confirmed in the title of a thread and then going on to post a source that doesn't confirm anything in the title should be an automatic ban.

bionictonic

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[QUOTE="DanteSuikoden"]

Using confirmed in the title of a thread and then going on to post a source that doesn't confirm anything in the title should be an automatic ban.

nolson

really? did you even read the article Yoshida posted on his twitter that I posted up two messages. The service is going to be INTEGRATED into the PS4. aka they will coexist. PS4 will most likely launch end of 2013 and you think no games were in development until sometime after today? Going completely cloud based makes no sense and I really don't understand why everyone is jumping to that conclusion. They would be alienating half of their install base from ever playing a ps4 game if they go totally cloud.

really? did you even read the article Yoshida posted on his twitter that I posted up two messages. The service is going to be INTEGRATED into the PS4. aka they will coexist. PS4 will most likely launch end of 2013 and you think no games were in development until sometime after today? Going completely cloud based makes no sense and I really don't understand why everyone is jumping to that conclusion. They would be alienating half of their install base from ever playing a ps4 game if they go totally cloud.

nolson

Also, Sony's gaming division is currently losing money by the truckload.

I doubt it matters to them who they alienate, with cloud gaming they could be profitable from day 1 and sell it extremely cheap.

Obviously their old strategy was not working.

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="phonemug"]So I guess they were psychic blogs right?

I mean Sony did buy Gakai :lol:

You guys are ridiculous.

phonemug

That stretch of logic is laughable...even by someone like you.

2. Sony buys Gakai

Leap in logic? It just happened. You guys are so deluded but you'll eventually catch up.

Like you did with Vita when I said it was going to flop but got called a troll. Hows that going now?

This thread is so stupid. Do you guys realize how little sense this makes?

For starters, this sh*t is from January 11th. She said that "it will be the big news of E3"

Well, no big news at E3. This topic is dead.

Also, you cannot make an entire console cloud based without releasing phyisical hardware. What, do you think you're going to access next-gen hardware remotely from Sony's servers with your Vita or something?

No, that's dumb. This thread is dumb. The lemmings trying to claim ownage in it are really, REALLY dumb.

[QUOTE="nolson"][QUOTE="bionictonic"]Pretty damn close to confirmation

bionictonic

you accept the fact about PS4 going cloud only, which hasn't been confirmed, but you deny the fact that PS4 games are in development which is something that has been confirmed by Sony themselves? OMG these fanboys are ridiculous....

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2012/06/07/sony-confirm-ps4-games-are-in-development/

http://www.gamespot.com/news/ps4-games-entering-early-development-stage-report-6341322

Phonemug =

Everyone Else @ Phonemug

Since my comment just got buried on page 9.

Article from January 11th.

Prediction that one of the companies will drop out and will be "the big news at E3"

E3 passed by, nothing happened.

Dead topic.

Sony could actually make a profit like this.

I don;t understand why their fans want to see them keep losing money.

Here is someone with a little bit of logic.Most of the fanboys on this board would rather see Sony continue to get killed financially just so they could pander to their fanboy dreams of powerful hardware.This is a strategy that will be a lot cheaper for them and may keep them afloat.phonemug

No system next gen will be cloud only. ITs giving your competitors a huge retail advantage and segregating the part of your audience who doesn't buy online.

Since my comment just got buried on page 9.

Article from January 11th.

Prediction that one of the companies will drop out and will be "the big news at E3"

E3 passed by, nothing happened.

Dead topic.

PraetorianMan

What kind of logic is this? Did you not read the countless artiles of a Sony buyout of Gakai leading up to E3? They just chose not to announce it likely because it hadn't quite been finalized.

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/e3-2012-all-gaming-will-be-cloud-based-someday-admits-ms/097609

No system next gen will be cloud only. ITs giving your competitors a huge retail advantage and segregating the part of your audience who doesn't buy online.

ActicEdge

Did that strategy work for Sony this gen? They lost billions.

I'm sure they'd just be happy to turn profit.

[QUOTE="PraetorianMan"]

Since my comment just got buried on page 9.

Article from January 11th.

Prediction that one of the companies will drop out and will be "the big news at E3"

E3 passed by, nothing happened.

Dead topic.

bionictonic

What kind of logic is this? Did you not read the countless artiles of a Sony buyout of Gakai leading up to E3? They just chose not to announce it likely because it hadn't quite been finalized.

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/e3-2012-all-gaming-will-be-cloud-based-someday-admits-ms/097609

What does this have to do with the fact that her "prediction" turned out to be dead wrong?

[QUOTE="phonemug"]Here is someone with a little bit of logic.Most of the fanboys on this board would rather see Sony continue to get killed financially just so they could pander to their fanboy dreams of powerful hardware.This is a strategy that will be a lot cheaper for them and may keep them afloat.tormentos

phonemug's getting owned from left to right and the poor bastard doesn't even realize it.

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[QUOTE="PraetorianMan"]

Since my comment just got buried on page 9.

Article from January 11th.

Prediction that one of the companies will drop out and will be "the big news at E3"

E3 passed by, nothing happened.

Dead topic.

PraetorianMan

What kind of logic is this? Did you not read the countless artiles of a Sony buyout of Gakai leading up to E3? They just chose not to announce it likely because it hadn't quite been finalized.

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/e3-2012-all-gaming-will-be-cloud-based-someday-admits-ms/097609

What does this have to do with the fact that her "prediction" turned out to be dead wrong?

[QUOTE="PraetorianMan"]

[QUOTE="bionictonic"]

What kind of logic is this? Did you not read the countless artiles of a Sony buyout of Gakai leading up to E3? They just chose not to announce it likely because it hadn't quite been finalized.

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/e3-2012-all-gaming-will-be-cloud-based-someday-admits-ms/097609

bionictonic

What does this have to do with the fact that her "prediction" turned out to be dead wrong?

Yes, and? Nanea Reeves said "Not all of the current console makers will have one more generation. That will be the big news at E3." Tell me, what was the big news at E3 this year?

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

No system next gen will be cloud only. ITs giving your competitors a huge retail advantage and segregating the part of your audience who doesn't buy online.

bionictonic

Did that strategy work for Sony this gen? They lost billions.

I'm sure they'd just be happy to turn profit.

It worked for them the previous 2 gens. It also would not be smart to just let MS have 100% of the big console IPs.

[QUOTE="bionictonic"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

No system next gen will be cloud only. ITs giving your competitors a huge retail advantage and segregating the part of your audience who doesn't buy online.

ActicEdge

Did that strategy work for Sony this gen? They lost billions.

I'm sure they'd just be happy to turn profit.

It worked for them the previous 2 gens. It also would not be smart to just let MS have 100% of the big console IPs.

The market has changed and so has Sony's financial situation.

[QUOTE="bionictonic"]

[QUOTE="PraetorianMan"]Dead wrong? :lol:

Sony just bought the company in question.

What does this have to do with the fact that her "prediction" turned out to be dead wrong?

PraetorianMan

You Cows are so deluded. :lol:

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[QUOTE="bionictonic"]

Did that strategy work for Sony this gen? They lost billions.

I'm sure they'd just be happy to turn profit.

bionictonic

It worked for them the previous 2 gens. It also would not be smart to just let MS have 100% of the big console IPs.

The market has changed and so has Sony's financial situation.

So you think giving up any retail market share and mind share they have now to prematurely go cloud will get them back on track? Lol naw.

The previous two gens were over half a decade ago and beyond.The market has changed and so has Sony's financial situation.bionictonic

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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

It worked for them the previous 2 gens. It also would not be smart to just let MS have 100% of the big console IPs.

ActicEdge

The market has changed and so has Sony's financial situation.

So you think giving up any retail market share and mind share they have now to prematurely go cloud will get them back on track? Lol naw.

[QUOTE="bionictonic"]The previous two gens were over half a decade ago and beyond.The market has changed and so has Sony's financial situation.tormentos

So Sony's problems this gen didn't have anything to do with them taking losses on hardware?

Something they could avoid completely with an Onlive business model?

Color me surprised :roll:

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="bionictonic"]The previous two gens were over half a decade ago and beyond.

The market has changed and so has Sony's financial situation.

bionictonic

So you think giving up any retail market share and mind share they have now to prematurely go cloud will get them back on track? Lol naw.

They aren't going to be profitable launching a cloud gaming service, they won't get the consumer support to make up the money they spent buying it. I don't think you are thinking this through.

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="bionictonic"]The previous two gens were over half a decade ago and beyond.The market has changed and so has Sony's financial situation.bionictonic

So Sony's problems this gen didn't have anything to do with them taking losses on hardware?

Something they could avoid completely with an Onlive business model?

Color me surprised :roll:

Sony could have launched much more profitable hardware if they didn't go with the idiotic cell processor. The 360 launched at $400 with similar hardware to the PS3 and the losses were much less substantial.