Now that 360 graphics have failed to match PS3's, is there any hope for Gears 3?

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

Who says Uncharted looks so good and why should we agree with them?

If I made a game which was linear to a fault and 80% set pieces i'd bloody well hope it looked half decent.

Infinite_Access

And it does look have decent (better) whats your point?

Isn't Gears rather linear?

Less linear then Uncharted with more enemies. Much like Uncharted, Gears looks best during set pieces, sadly Gears has far less then Uncharted so it's graphically inconsistent.

I'd argue the battle with the giant fish thing or inside the giant worm thing is better looking then the best parts of Uncharted.

... Not that I was saying Gears is better looking. I happen to think KZ2 is the best looking titles on either PS3 or Xbox.

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

Who says Uncharted looks so good and why should we agree with them?

If I made a game which was linear to a fault and 80% set pieces i'd bloody well hope it looked half decent.

ermacness

[QUOTE="goodtobeback"]

i guess u dont know what parallax mapping is.

also, the godrays are dynamic on gears 3 and static on ucnharted 3.

Mrmccormo

medal of honor on ps3 uses unreal engine 3 for single player, the godrays in that beat uncharted 3 or killzone3's godrays already.

[QUOTE="johnnyblazed88"]

nope not in cows eyes cuz they seem to think or act like theres a big difference whn theres obviously not

nothing can lookanywhere near asgood as a PS3 exclusive likeKZ2 on Unchartedto aPS3 fanboy

ermacness

Heck, most of the lems would put CoD: BO on their side because of it being superior to the ps3 version.

Both sides do it, it just that the cows make a little more sense than the lems.;)

thats just as stupid as what your doing

unless the game gets docked points i never think theres a big difference in the multiplats

[QUOTE="Infinite_Access"]

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

Who says Uncharted looks so good and why should we agree with them?

If I made a game which was linear to a fault and 80% set pieces i'd bloody well hope it looked half decent.

-Snooze-

And it does look have decent (better) whats your point?

Isn't Gears rather linear?

Less linear then Uncharted with more enemies. Much like Uncharted, Gears looks best during set pieces, sadly Gears has far less then Uncharted so it's graphically inconsistent.

I'd argue the battle with the giant fish thing or inside the giant worm thing is better looking then the best parts of Uncharted.

... Not that I was saying Gears is better looking. I happen to think KZ2 is the best looking titles on either PS3 or Xbox.

[QUOTE="Mrmccormo"][QUOTE="goodtobeback"]

i guess u dont know what parallax mapping is.

also, the godrays are dynamic on gears 3 and static on ucnharted 3.

goodtobeback

medal of honor on ps3 uses unreal engine 3 for single player, the godrays in that beat uncharted 3 or killzone3's godrays already.

nope imho no 360 game can ever match the awesome power and graphics of ps3 games

[QUOTE="goodtobeback"]

[QUOTE="Mrmccormo"] Someone is reaching... Consider the fact that UC2's graphics are currently unmatched by 95% of console games, and certainly unmatched by any 360 game. Also consider that EPIC is well-known for bullshotting their upcoming games. It's so well-known that it's pretty much a family tradition that they bullshot their upcoming games and then sweep it under the rug when the final product looks nothing like the pictures.Mrmccormo

medal of honor on ps3 uses unreal engine 3 for single player, the godrays in that beat uncharted 3 or killzone3's godrays already.

you compare games in all aspects.

gears 3 has better textures look more detailed upclose than uncharted 3.

i own gears 2 and uncharted 2....gears 2 textures look better upclose.

[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

Who says Uncharted looks so good and why should we agree with them?

If I made a game which was linear to a fault and 80% set pieces i'd bloody well hope it looked half decent.

delta3074

None of those titles are open world.

Kameo has one open section, which is a persistent battlefield, but that's about it, all the levels are linear platformers/adventures.

Fable is a linear game set in a giant world. It's full of invisable walls stopping you from getting too far off the beaten path.

That being said they're all FAR more open then either Gears or Uncharted.

[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

Who says Uncharted looks so good and why should we agree with them?

If I made a game which was linear to a fault and 80% set pieces i'd bloody well hope it looked half decent.

delta3074

nope imho no 360 game can ever match the awesome power and graphics of ps3 games

_SWAG_

saints row 1# is xbox360 exclusive.

that's open world lol.

saints row graphics aint better, but the explosions on part 1 own any ps3 exclusive's explosions lol.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="ermacness"]The only really "open" exclusive the 360 offers to the full extent is the Halo series, and even then, they can't even be said in the same sentence as UC2 in visuals. AW was a linear game in a vast world, and Gears was very linear as well (hince that Gears and AW looks better, and by some, much better than any of the Halo games)

ermacness

[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="johnnyblazed88"]

nope not in cows eyes cuz they seem to think or act like theres a big difference whn theres obviously not

nothing can lookanywhere near asgood as a PS3 exclusive likeKZ2 on Unchartedto aPS3 fanboy

johnnyblazed88

Heck, most of the lems would put CoD: BO on their side because of it being superior to the ps3 version.

Both sides do it, it just that the cows make a little more sense than the lems.;)

thats just as stupid as what your doing

unless the game gets docked points i never think theres a big difference in the multiplats

[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]fable 2, kameo and fable 3 are all 'open' games as welldelta3074

saints row 1# is xbox360 exclusive.

that's open world lol.

goodtobeback

[QUOTE="goodtobeback"]

saints row 1# is xbox360 exclusive.

that's open world lol.

ermacness

[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="goodtobeback"]

saints row 1# is xbox360 exclusive.

that's open world lol.

Vinegar_Strokes

how i compared ps2 vs dreamcast power? it was by multiplatform games...ps2 was more difficult to program for but still outperformed it at multiplats.

xbox360 has overall proved it's more powerful than ps3.

how i compared ps2 vs dreamcast power? it was by multiplatform games...ps2 was more difficult to program for but still outperformed it at multiplats.

xbox360 has overall proved it's more powerful than ps3.

goodtobeback

Alan Wake and Gears2 are pretty close to the best seen on PS3 and going by multiplayer vids, Gears3 already look as good as Uncharted3´s singleplayer.

Anyway, visuals are a matter of opinion. Technical graphics wise, the most impressive game i have ever seen on a console is RDR. 360 proved itself by running it so good 8)

a while back Alan Wake's graphics were hyped through the roof, it was even said to look better than Uncharted 2. well now that AW and many other 360 games graphics were hyped for best looking game on consoles and have failed to match PS3 graphics, is there really any hope for Gears 3 to match PS3's amazing graphics?

especially since every game 360 game before has not matched up PS3's quality graphics??

KevinButlerVP

all those hyped games that came after gears of war 2 never had a chance.

but... RAGE, gears of war 3 and Crysis 2 already look better than the top 3 on consoles right now. Then again, so do killzone 3, Uncharted 3, and resistance 3 even.

so... who doesn't know these 2 consoles are even by now?

You gotta be joking; Alan Wake had average visuals. It was also extremely repetitive and everything about it was dated.

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]

a while back Alan Wake's graphics were hyped through the roof, it was even said to look better than Uncharted 2. well now that AW and many other 360 games graphics were hyped for best looking game on consoles and have failed to match PS3 graphics, is there really any hope for Gears 3 to match PS3's amazing graphics?

especially since every game 360 game before has not matched up PS3's quality graphics??

goodtobeback

xbox360=lacks software to take advantage of it's hardware.

halo reach just uses updated halo ce engne.

and gears of war uses the unreal engine 3 which is used on plenty of ps3 multiplats.

uncharted 2 and killzone2 those engines are only used on ps3.

and alan wake is based off old engine built for pc.

that is bullocks sir. the 360 doesn't need a specific from the ground up engine to take advantage of the hardware, like the ps3 does. Because the 360 has a very pc - like and simple architecture.

That said, games like Crysis 2 on both consoles already looks better than Uncharted 2.

eDIT: actually, the ps3 doesn't really need one either. It's just more benficial.

[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]and it looked HORRIBLE.

ermacness

[QUOTE="goodtobeback"]

how i compared ps2 vs dreamcast power? it was by multiplatform games...ps2 was more difficult to program for but still outperformed it at multiplats.

xbox360 has overall proved it's more powerful than ps3.

ermacness

Actually multiplats are the ONLY way possible to compare console capabilities :? Some are developed first on 360, other on PS3 and the results are allways similar versions.

Saying 360 can run Uncharted2 is as biased as saying PS3 cant run Gears 2. Theres simply no proof.

[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="goodtobeback"]

how i compared ps2 vs dreamcast power? it was by multiplatform games...ps2 was more difficult to program for but still outperformed it at multiplats.

xbox360 has overall proved it's more powerful than ps3.

PAL360

Actually multiplats are the ONLY way possible to compare console capabilities :? Some are developed first on 360, other on PS3 and the results are allways similar versions.

Saying 360 can run Uncharted2 is as biased as saying PS3 cant run Gears 2. Theres simply no proof.

Ah, but there is proof, the ps3 has games running on the same engine as gears of war 2 and that looks just as good as it. :P

but yeah, the 360 could handle Uncharted 2.

[QUOTE="goodtobeback"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]

a while back Alan Wake's graphics were hyped through the roof, it was even said to look better than Uncharted 2. well now that AW and many other 360 games graphics were hyped for best looking game on consoles and have failed to match PS3 graphics, is there really any hope for Gears 3 to match PS3's amazing graphics?

especially since every game 360 game before has not matched up PS3's quality graphics??

theuncharted34

xbox360=lacks software to take advantage of it's hardware.

halo reach just uses updated halo ce engne.

and gears of war uses the unreal engine 3 which is used on plenty of ps3 multiplats.

uncharted 2 and killzone2 those engines are only used on ps3.

and alan wake is based off old engine built for pc.

that is bullocks sir. the 360 doesn't need a specific from the ground up engine to take advantage of the hardware, like the ps3 does. Because the 360 has a very pc - like and simple architecture.

That said, games like Crysis 2 on both consoles already looks better than Uncharted 2.

It's really not "bullocks" Creating a game with an engine not designed specificially for your hardware will always produce worse results then using one specifically for your hardware.

The Xbox has titles that use engines designed for a plethora of hardware, yes it's similar to the PC architecture, but PC games are also made for a variety of hardware and have varying performance (even on the same hardware) They lack the optimization of PS3 exclusives.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="goodtobeback"]

xbox360=lacks software to take advantage of it's hardware.

halo reach just uses updated halo ce engne.

and gears of war uses the unreal engine 3 which is used on plenty of ps3 multiplats.

uncharted 2 and killzone2 those engines are only used on ps3.

and alan wake is based off old engine built for pc.

-Snooze-

that is bullocks sir. the 360 doesn't need a specific from the ground up engine to take advantage of the hardware, like the ps3 does. Because the 360 has a very pc - like and simple architecture.

That said, games like Crysis 2 on both consoles already looks better than Uncharted 2.

It's really not "bullocks" Creating a game with an engine not designed specificially for your hardware will always produce worse results then using one specifically for your hardware.

The Xbox has titles that use engines designed for a plethora of hardware, yes it's similar to the PC architecture, but PC games are also made for a variety of hardware and have varying performance (even on the same hardware) They lack the optimization of PS3 exclusives.

no not really. It's beneficial to have a from the ground up engine, but it's not needed. All that does is make optimization *Alot* easier. You can always optimize a 3rd party engine to run as good as it can on either console.

case in point crysis 2.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]If you're using "multiplats" as an argument on how the 360 is more powerful, then you have lost ALL credibility in this debate, especially since it been stated by a plethora of devs that the deliberately port over the ps3 version of multiplats due to the much needed time and money, and going by sales, the 360 version tends to make the most money for them.

theuncharted34

Actually multiplats are the ONLY way possible to compare console capabilities :? Some are developed first on 360, other on PS3 and the results are allways similar versions.

Saying 360 can run Uncharted2 is as biased as saying PS3 cant run Gears 2. Theres simply no proof.

Ah, but there is proof, the ps3 has games running on the same engine as gears of war 2 and that look just as good as it. :P

but yeah, the 360 could handle Uncharted 2.

In my opinion Gears2 is the best looking Unreal Engine 3 game in any system (actually UE3.5). I would say that only Uncharted2 and Killzone 2 look better than it on consoles.

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

that is bullocks sir. the 360 doesn't need a specific from the ground up engine to take advantage of the hardware, like the ps3 does. Because the 360 has a very pc - like and simple architecture.

That said, games like Crysis 2 on both consoles already looks better than Uncharted 2.

theuncharted34

It's really not "bullocks" Creating a game with an engine not designed specificially for your hardware will always produce worse results then using one specifically for your hardware.

The Xbox has titles that use engines designed for a plethora of hardware, yes it's similar to the PC architecture, but PC games are also made for a variety of hardware and have varying performance (even on the same hardware) They lack the optimization of PS3 exclusives.

no not really. It's beneficial to have a from the ground up engine, but it's not needed. All that does is make optimization *Alot* easier. You can always optimize a 3rd party engine to run as good as it can on either console.

case in point crysis 2.

I'd argue that had Crysis been built from the ground up specifically for the Xbox, it'd perform better. This is without even knowing how it looks. As you've said it's a lot easier to optimize a title for your console if it's built with a dedicated engine. Who's to say Crytek will have the time to squeeze out all that extra performance?

Multiplat devs have issues on the PS3 for this exact reason.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

It's really not "bullocks" Creating a game with an engine not designed specificially for your hardware will always produce worse results then using one specifically for your hardware.

The Xbox has titles that use engines designed for a plethora of hardware, yes it's similar to the PC architecture, but PC games are also made for a variety of hardware and have varying performance (even on the same hardware) They lack the optimization of PS3 exclusives.

-Snooze-

no not really. It's beneficial to have a from the ground up engine, but it's not needed. All that does is make optimization *Alot* easier. You can always optimize a 3rd party engine to run as good as it can on either console.

case in point crysis 2.

I'd argue that had Crysis been built from the ground up specifically for the Xbox, it'd perform better. Maybe, but very slightly. This is without even knowing how it looks. As you've said it's a lot easier to optimize a title for your console if it's built with a dedicated engine. Who's to say Crytek will have the time to squeeze out all that extra performance?

Multiplat devs have issues on the PS3 for this exact reason.

they have 600 people working on Crysis 2. (mostly coders) Crytek has eliminated pop up and got the game running at a solid framerate. 2 months prior, the game was running like crap.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Actually multiplats are the ONLY way possible to compare console capabilities :? Some are developed first on 360, other on PS3 and the results are allways similar versions.

Saying 360 can run Uncharted2 is as biased as saying PS3 cant run Gears 2. Theres simply no proof.

PAL360

Ah, but there is proof, the ps3 has games running on the same engine as gears of war 2 and that look just as good as it. :P

but yeah, the 360 could handle Uncharted 2.

In my opinion Gears2 is the best looking Unreal Engine 3 game in any system (actually UE3.5). I would say that only Uncharted2 and Killzone 2 look better than it on consoles.

my vote goes to batman arkham asylum :)

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

Ah, but there is proof, the ps3 has games running on the same engine as gears of war 2 and that look just as good as it. :P

but yeah, the 360 could handle Uncharted 2.

theuncharted34

In my opinion Gears2 is the best looking Unreal Engine 3 game in any system (actually UE3.5). I would say that only Uncharted2 and Killzone 2 look better than it on consoles.

my vote goes to batman arkham asylum :)

Oh, i forgot that one, great looking game! Mass Effect 2 also have some great graphics but my vote still goes to Gears2 :P

just by seeing some of the vids of gears 3 it suprasses uc 2

Even though this is an obvious PS3 fanboy trolling thread I'll answer it. Gears 3 looks better than U2 at least as far as what I've seen. Of course we will have to wait until the game actually releases to compare them. Hell some people think Gears 2 looked better than U2. Neither one can touch most PC games so it really doesn't matter. Personally I don't care as long as both games are fun to play I'll buy them. Graphics don't mean crap, they add to the enjoyment of the game, but to most people it's the gameplay that's important.

Christ,cows are just ridiculous.

You cows used to be funny/desperate.Now you're just annoying.

Gears 3 will surpass uncharted 2, epic is the only dev pushing the 360 to it's limits.johny300

well, probably Crytek and id software as well :P

If that weapon trailer of Crysis 2 was on consoles it would be the best graphics on consoles period. It was also said that it was the PS3 build and both console versions will take advantage their system so it will be equal.Keiji993

It was on the consoles. But Crytek still needs to get rid of the screen tearing. Also it may or may not beat killzone 3. Which also looks amazing. :)

[QUOTE="Keiji993"]If that weapon trailer of Crysis 2 was on consoles it would be the best graphics on consoles period. It was also said that it was the PS3 build and both console versions will take advantage their system so it will be equal.theuncharted34

It was on the consoles. But Crytek still needs to get rid of the screen tearing. Also it may or may not beat killzone 3. Which also looks amazing. :)

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="Keiji993"]If that weapon trailer of Crysis 2 was on consoles it would be the best graphics on consoles period. It was also said that it was the PS3 build and both console versions will take advantage their system so it will be equal.johny300

It was on the consoles. But Crytek still needs to get rid of the screen tearing. Also it may or may not beat killzone 3. Which also looks amazing. :)

So On what settings are you running amnesia on? Max? :D

[QUOTE="johny300"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

It was on the consoles. But Crytek still needs to get rid of the screen tearing. Also it may or may not beat killzone 3. Which also looks amazing. :)

theuncharted34

So On what settings are you running amnesia on? Max? :D

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="johny300"] Lol i'm not worried lol i might get Crysis 2 on PC 8).johny300

So On what settings are you running amnesia on? Max? :D

might as well get all fps's on your pc then :P

[QUOTE="johny300"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

So On what settings are you running amnesia on? Max? :D

theuncharted34

might as well get all fps's on your pc then :P

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="johny300"] 1920x1080, 8xAA 8).johny300

might as well get all fps's on your pc then :P

I'll always be a console guy :P

[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"] infamous is no looker either, but still manages to be a great game

clone01

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="ermacness"]If you think that we're (or more likely,I'm) discussing the quality of a game, then you need to go to the entry of the thread, and read the title. We're discussing VISUALS here, not QUALITY OF THE GAME.

ermacness