Now that 360 graphics have failed to match PS3's, is there any hope for Gears 3?

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] well it's nothing new, hyping unreleased 360 games as console graphics king until they come out... then it's on to the next unreleased graphics powerhouse! games like Alan Wake prove this, 360 games that haven't been released get massive hype behind the graphics until they come out and flop in that aspect. it's happened every timeKevinButlerVP

I am the farthest thing from a lemming, and am not hyping anything.

It's just a fact that based on what i've seen so far, gears of war 3, crysis 2, and RAGE look better than Uncharted 2.

...Okay RAGE, doesn't really look better, it's just running at 60fps and is open world, so over all it beats UC2.

Crysis 2

here you go. Best representation of what the final game will look like.

the be the weapon trailer looks exactly the same as that, The only difference is the be the weapon trailer has screen tearing, and lots of it. The screen tearing will not be present in the final game.

Christ,cows are just ridiculous.

You cows used to be funny/desperate.Now you're just annoying.

Lto_thaG

I'm not disagreeing with you in any way, but the same goes for lemmings, sheep, and hermits too. IMO cows and lemmings are the worst out of all.

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

You are indeed correct that the ps3 currently has the top 3 best looking console games technically speaking.

But to say that the xbox 360 cannot produce these visuals is nonsense.

There are 3 games coming out on the xbox 360 this year that Have better technical visuals than the current CGK, so that just throws your theory out the window.

theuncharted34

I am the farthest thing from a lemming, and am not hyping anything.

It's just a fact that based on what i've seen so far, gears of war 3, crysis 2, and RAGE look better than Uncharted 2.

...Okay RAGE, doesn't really look better, it's just running at 60fps and is open world, so over all it beats UC2.

So because it's open world and runs smoothly (UC2 also runs fine) means RAGE is better than UC2, regardless of all other gameplay aspects? You lost some respect points there.

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[QUOTE="Mrmccormo"] Interesting how you pull the "it's just your opinion" card and then in the next breath say that RDR (which has worse textures, more glitches, and fewer graphical effects such as explosions, smoke, etc.) "comes out on top" compared to UC2.KevinButlerVP

As has been explained ...

Uncharted "looking" better is opinion. A game being more technical would be fact, correct? Is it not logically to assume a game as vast and graphically stunning as RDR is far more demanding then a linear, scripted game?

so I guess you helped to prove my point

GOW3 winning was a JOKE. Metro 2033 on the PC trashes GOW3. GS technical awards has been a JOKE for the past couple of years. These guys thought Metal Gear Solid 4 looks better than Crysis Warhead. Go figures.

So because it's open world and runs smoothly (UC2 also runs fine) means RAGE is better than UC2, regardless of all other gameplay aspects? You lost some respect points there.

Ramen1020

Better? Perhaps not, but if it looks as good as it does, and runs at 60fps while being somewhat open world, yeah that does earn it bonus points. Carmack himself said that if he ran it at 30fps instead of 60fps he could acheive "3-times the graphics fidelity".

[QUOTE="Ramen1020"]

So because it's open world and runs smoothly (UC2 also runs fine) means RAGE is better than UC2, regardless of all other gameplay aspects? You lost some respect points there.

gamecubepad

Better? Perhaps not, but if it looks as good as it does, and runs at 60fps while being somewhat open world, yeah that does earn it bonus points. Carmack himself said that if he ran it at 30fps instead of 60fps he could acheive "3-times the graphics fidelity".

I never said that wasn't impressive, I just don't like it when someone uses flawed logic to prove one game is "better" than another.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] well it's nothing new, hyping unreleased 360 games as console graphics king until they come out... then it's on to the next unreleased graphics powerhouse! games like Alan Wake prove this, 360 games that haven't been released get massive hype behind the graphics until they come out and flop in that aspect. it's happened every timeRamen1020

I am the farthest thing from a lemming, and am not hyping anything.

It's just a fact that based on what i've seen so far, gears of war 3, crysis 2, and RAGE look better than Uncharted 2.

...Okay RAGE, doesn't really look better, it's just running at 60fps and is open world, so over all it beats UC2.

So because it's open world and runs smoothly (UC2 also runs fine) means RAGE is better than UC2, regardless of all other gameplay aspects? You lost some respect points there.

^^ I was making a graphical comparison, I have no idea how good of a game rage will be.

And yes, Uncharted 2 runs at 30fps, while RAGE is both open world and runs at 60fps. And, not only that, but the level of visual fidelity RAGE has while doing all that is seriously impressive. I'm sure it'll being doing more technically than Uncharted 2 when it's all said and done.

Can I haz my respect back? :3

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

[QUOTE="Ramen1020"]

So because it's open world and runs smoothly (UC2 also runs fine) means RAGE is better than UC2, regardless of all other gameplay aspects? You lost some respect points there.

Ramen1020

Better? Perhaps not, but if it looks as good as it does, and runs at 60fps while being somewhat open world, yeah that does earn it bonus points. Carmack himself said that if he ran it at 30fps instead of 60fps he could acheive "3-times the graphics fidelity".

I never said that wasn't impressive, I just don't like it when someone uses flawed logic to prove one game is "better" than another.

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

[QUOTE="Ramen1020"]

So because it's open world and runs smoothly (UC2 also runs fine) means RAGE is better than UC2, regardless of all other gameplay aspects? You lost some respect points there.

Ramen1020

Better? Perhaps not, but if it looks as good as it does, and runs at 60fps while being somewhat open world, yeah that does earn it bonus points. Carmack himself said that if he ran it at 30fps instead of 60fps he could acheive "3-times the graphics fidelity".

I never said that wasn't impressive, I just don't like it when someone uses flawed logic to prove one game is "better" than another.

looking back on my post, I can see how you would think what you did. I should have worded it better, but you jumped into the conversation a bit late. You should read everything bro :P

[QUOTE="Ramen1020"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

I am the farthest thing from a lemming, and am not hyping anything.

It's just a fact that based on what i've seen so far, gears of war 3, crysis 2, and RAGE look better than Uncharted 2.

...Okay RAGE, doesn't really look better, it's just running at 60fps and is open world, so over all it beats UC2.

theuncharted34

So because it's open world and runs smoothly (UC2 also runs fine) means RAGE is better than UC2, regardless of all other gameplay aspects? You lost some respect points there.

^^ I was making a graphical comparison, I have no idea how good of a game rage will be.

And yes, Uncharted 2 runs at 30fps, while RAGE is both open world and runs at 60fps. And, not only that, but the level of visual fidelity RAGE has while doing all that is seriously impressive. I'm sure it'll being doing more technically than Uncharted 2 when it's all said and done.

Can I haz my respect back? :3

Ha, alright, I thought you were comparing the overall games. It's hard to tell a reasonable argument with an illogical one on SW.

So yes, *gives back respect*.

[QUOTE="Ramen1020"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

I am the farthest thing from a lemming, and am not hyping anything.

It's just a fact that based on what i've seen so far, gears of war 3, crysis 2, and RAGE look better than Uncharted 2.

...Okay RAGE, doesn't really look better, it's just running at 60fps and is open world, so over all it beats UC2.

theuncharted34

So because it's open world and runs smoothly (UC2 also runs fine) means RAGE is better than UC2, regardless of all other gameplay aspects? You lost some respect points there.

^^ I was making a graphical comparison, I have no idea how good of a game rage will be.

And yes, Uncharted 2 runs at 30fps, while RAGE is both open world and runs at 60fps. And, not only that, but the level of visual fidelity RAGE has while doing all that is seriously impressive. I'm sure it'll being doing more technically than Uncharted 2 when it's all said and done.

Can I haz my respect back? :3

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="Ramen1020"]

So because it's open world and runs smoothly (UC2 also runs fine) means RAGE is better than UC2, regardless of all other gameplay aspects? You lost some respect points there.

Ramen1020

^^ I was making a graphical comparison, I have no idea how good of a game rage will be.

And yes, Uncharted 2 runs at 30fps, while RAGE is both open world and runs at 60fps. And, not only that, but the level of visual fidelity RAGE has while doing all that is seriously impressive. I'm sure it'll being doing more technically than Uncharted 2 when it's all said and done.

Can I haz my respect back? :3

Ha, alright, I thought you were comparing the overall games. It's hard to tell a reasonable argument with an illogical one on SW.

So yes, *gives back respect*.

yey! :D

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I never said that wasn't impressive, I just don't like it when someone uses flawed logic to prove one game is "better" than another.

Ramen1020

Ok, I had assumed you were talking gfx, but you're discussing overall game quality. I doubt RAGE will be up to Uncharted 2 overall quality. I can almost guarantee it won't, but it's gfx will be right up there with the best. Doom 4 will be the real monster, though. I love the gameplay and atmosphere of the Doom games too.

[QUOTE="Ramen1020"]

I never said that wasn't impressive, I just don't like it when someone uses flawed logic to prove one game is "better" than another.

gamecubepad

Ok, I had assumed you were talking gfx, but you're discussing overall game quality. I doubt RAGE will be up to Uncharted 2 overall quality. I can almost guarantee it won't, but it's gfx will be right up there with the best. Doom 4 will be the real monster, though. I love the gameplay and atmosphere of the Doom games too.

I haven't played any of id's games, RAGE will be my first D: (i know, blasphemy)

But yeah, I've watched video's of doom 3 and it has really great atmosphere. :)

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[QUOTE="Ramen1020"]

I never said that wasn't impressive, I just don't like it when someone uses flawed logic to prove one game is "better" than another.

theuncharted34

Ok, I had assumed you were talking gfx, but you're discussing overall game quality. I doubt RAGE will be up to Uncharted 2 overall quality. I can almost guarantee it won't, but it's gfx will be right up there with the best. Doom 4 will be the real monster, though. I love the gameplay and atmosphere of the Doom games too.

I haven't played any of id's games, RAGE will be my first D: (i know, blasphemy)

But yeah, I've watched video's of doom 3 and it has really great atmosphere. :)

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

Ok, I had assumed you were talking gfx, but you're discussing overall game quality. I doubt RAGE will be up to Uncharted 2 overall quality. I can almost guarantee it won't, but it's gfx will be right up there with the best. Doom 4 will be the real monster, though. I love the gameplay and atmosphere of the Doom games too.

delta3074

I haven't played any of id's games, RAGE will be my first D: (i know, blasphemy)

But yeah, I've watched video's of doom 3 and it has really great atmosphere. :)

It's worse than the millenium falcon. I don't have a gaming pc :P my cpu is pretty good, but the onboard graphics card can't even run doom 3 at minimum :(

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

I haven't played any of id's games, RAGE will be my first D: (i know, blasphemy)

But yeah, I've watched video's of doom 3 and it has really great atmosphere. :)

theuncharted34

It's worse than the millenium falcon. I don't have a gaming pc :P my cpu is pretty good, but the onboard graphics card can't even run doom 3 at minimum :(

that sucks man, doom 3 is one of the greates games i ever played, any way, posted the sytem requirements, just in case •A 1.5 GHz Intel Pentium 4 chip or AMD Athlon 1500 •384 MB RAM •2 GB hard disk space •An nVidia GeForce 3 graphics card or better; or an ATI Technologies 8500 or better thats for minimum settings.

I haven't played any of id's games, RAGE will be my first D: (i know, blasphemy)

But yeah, I've watched video's of doom 3 and it has really great atmosphere. :)

theuncharted34

You're in for treat. Don't let haters sway you.

I'm 27, and I've played all the id games since Commander Keen. Their FPS titles have always had the same feel to them. It's hard to explain. Maximum Brute Force or Ultimate Evil would be a good terms to describe them.:P

I bought a Radeon 9800 for Doom 3 and it was truly a generational leap in gfx and atmosphere. Not to mention some downright evil ****. Gave me the same feeling as the original Doom, where you feel like demons are in your room about to butcher you while you play.:lol:

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]seriously, play doom 3 on ultra high, your PC should run it unless it's the millenium falcon of PC's, but play it without the MOD that lets you use a gun and a flashlight at the same time, that mod takes a hell of a lot of the tension away.delta3074

It's worse than the millenium falcon. I don't have a gaming pc :P my cpu is pretty good, but the onboard graphics card can't even run doom 3 at minimum :(

that sucks man, doom 3 is one of the greates games i ever played, any way, posted the sytem requirements, just in case •A 1.5 GHz Intel Pentium 4 chip or AMD Athlon 1500 •384 MB RAM •2 GB hard disk space •An nVidia GeForce 3 graphics card or better; or an ATI Technologies 8500 or better thats for minimum settings.

nope. I have some horrible onboard video :P

I have an intel(R) GMA 3100 on board graphics card. It's absolutely horrible :(

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

I haven't played any of id's games, RAGE will be my first D: (i know, blasphemy)

But yeah, I've watched video's of doom 3 and it has really great atmosphere. :)

gamecubepad

You're in for treat. Don't let haters sway you.

I'm 27, and I've played all the id games since Commander Keen. Their FPS titles have always had the same feel to them. It's hard to explain. Maximum Brute Force or Ultimate Evil would be a good terms to describe them.:P

I bought a Radeon 9800 for Doom 3 and it was truly a generational leap in gfx and atmosphere. Not to mention some downright evil ****. Gave me the same feeling as the original Doom, where you feel like demons are in your room about to butcher you while you play.:lol:

yeah, all the id games look great. After all, they invented the fps genre ;)

:P