Nvidia says: PC's will bring in more money than consoles by 2014

[QUOTE="ocidax"]

lolololol, the next gen consoles from Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo are going to use ATI GPUS. More money only for Nvidia, not Ati.

AdrianWerner

Interesting. I live in a small town (~25k population) and I overhear many people talking about their satellite connection. If that much people have satellite (which gives 200-400mb daily limit), I wonder how long it'll take before digital distribution is the majority.Mr_Cumberdale

You should tell those people to tether a smartphone to their computer and stop wasting money.

I am amazed people STILL believe this COME ON now...

Let me tell you 3 easy reasons why it wont happen

1 convience- it is easy to set up a console and immediatly play on a console

2 Family- Your wife, mom, dad, little sister want to play? Well too bad cause the pc basically is a repels them away from it

3 Friends- How many of your friends only play the PC? None of mine do... and when they are asked about it by me they say its nerdy... that perception will never change

Sorry but the day console gaming dies is the day gaming itself dies... the sad truth that nobody seems to want to realize

fueled-system

Didn't PC gaming trek on just fine when consoles crashed back in the day?

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[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

hermtis have been saying pc has been making more money right now. lol at whos saying it as well.

DarthBilf

Errm because it has? I'm pretty sure nvidia is talking about game sales rather than revenue.

And yet the first chart talks about software sales.

Well considering how Farmville isn't playable on consoles, I'd say its a possibility.

Truthfully though, PC hardware is getting more and more expensive and changing rapidly. The newest GPU's are around $700, only to go down $300 a few months later, so I don't think the status quo will change. PC gaming will probably grow, but if those new consoles get out in 2013, then console gaming will pretty much dominate the market again for a couple of years (as they tend to do after launch).

Sounds good. I'll happily play games on PC if, by that time, common, everyday (non-gaming specific) PCs can play the most modern games without requiring upgrades every two years. Hopefully technology will advance and the price will decrease enough to the point that games will be playable for everyone who merely owns a PC. Or hopefully PC devs will stop pushing the graphical limits and make games that more people can play.

If they want current console gamers, one of those two things will have to happen. Average gamers aren't willing to do the constant-upgrade thing to be able to play new games. At least I'm not...

I am amazed people STILL believe this COME ON now...

Let me tell you 3 easy reasons why it wont happen

1 convience- it is easy to set up a console and immediatly play on a console

What's so hard about hooking your PC up to your TV?

2 Family- Your wife, mom, dad, little sister want to play? Well too bad cause the pc basically is a repels them away from it

3 Friends- How many of your friends only play the PC? None of mine do... and when they are asked about it by me they say its nerdy... that perception will never change

Hehe desperate for a third reason ey? Everyone isn't you

Sorry but the day console gaming dies is the day gaming itself dies... the sad truth that nobody seems to want to realize

fueled-system

Interesting. I live in a small town (~25k population) and I overhear many people talking about their satellite connection. If that much people have satellite (which gives 200-400mb daily limit), I wonder how long it'll take before digital distribution is the majority.Mr_Cumberdale

In the US, the NPD estimates it as just below 50% of sales.

In the US, the NPD estimates it as just below 50% of sales.lundy86_4

Well considering how Farmville isn't playable on consoles, I'd say its a possibility.

Truthfully though, PC hardware is getting more and more expensive and changing rapidly. The newest GPU's are around $700, only to go down $300 a few months later, so I don't think the status quo will change. PC gaming will probably grow, but if those new consoles get out in 2013, then console gaming will pretty much dominate the market again for a couple of years (as they tend to do after launch).

SPYDER0416

Jesus is everyone only looking at GPUs like The GTX 590 and stuff?

THere are GPUs in affordable price:performance ratios for everyone.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]In the US, the NPD estimates it as just below 50% of sales.topsemag55

Agreed. I know they wanted to start reporting them (they released a statement regarding doing it) but I don't think it really went anywhere. It's gonna be difficult as well due to Valve not releasing any sales data.

[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

Well considering how Farmville isn't playable on consoles, I'd say its a possibility.

Truthfully though, PC hardware is getting more and more expensive and changing rapidly. The newest GPU's are around $700, only to go down $300 a few months later, so I don't think the status quo will change. PC gaming will probably grow, but if those new consoles get out in 2013, then console gaming will pretty much dominate the market again for a couple of years (as they tend to do after launch).

NoodleFighter

Jesus is everyone only looking at GPUs like The GTX 590 and stuff?

THere are GPUs in affordable price:performance ratios for everyone.

I am amazed people STILL believe this COME ON now...

Let me tell you 3 easy reasons why it wont happen

1 convience- it is easy to set up a console and immediatly play on a console

2 Family- Your wife, mom, dad, little sister want to play? Well too bad cause the pc basically is a repels them away from it

3 Friends- How many of your friends only play the PC? None of mine do... and when they are asked about it by me they say its nerdy... that perception will never change

Sorry but the day console gaming dies is the day gaming itself dies... the sad truth that nobody seems to want to realize

fueled-system

1. PCs are more convenient because of more fully working features, not to mention being able to use any controller that you want to.. You buy a PC, you go plug it in and play. Not to mention almost every game today is available digitally for easy and instant access.

2. Why is that? PC has splitscreen also.

3. All of my friends have PCs. So...yeah. Gaming in general is still nerdy, it isn't limited to PC.

Remember that console crash in the 80s? PC gaming was still doing just fine. There's absolutely no reason why PC would die out if consoles did. People will go where the content is.

[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

Well considering how Farmville isn't playable on consoles, I'd say its a possibility.

Truthfully though, PC hardware is getting more and more expensive and changing rapidly. The newest GPU's are around $700, only to go down $300 a few months later, so I don't think the status quo will change. PC gaming will probably grow, but if those new consoles get out in 2013, then console gaming will pretty much dominate the market again for a couple of years (as they tend to do after launch).

NoodleFighter

Jesus is everyone only looking at GPUs like The GTX 590 and stuff?

THere are GPUs in affordable price:performance ratios for everyone.

Right now you can grab a 6770 plus Deus Ex HR and Shogun 2 for $125 with a $25 MIR. Deus Ex and Shogun 2 would be about $80 together, so you're only paying $45 (Or $20 if you bother with the MIR) for a card that can do great 1080p gaming.

Too bad we dont even get 2x the performance.

[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

Well considering how Farmville isn't playable on consoles, I'd say its a possibility.

Truthfully though, PC hardware is getting more and more expensive and changing rapidly. The newest GPU's are around $700, only to go down $300 a few months later, so I don't think the status quo will change. PC gaming will probably grow, but if those new consoles get out in 2013, then console gaming will pretty much dominate the market again for a couple of years (as they tend to do after launch).

PC_Otter

Jesus is everyone only looking at GPUs like The GTX 590 and stuff?

THere are GPUs in affordable price:performance ratios for everyone.

[QUOTE="PC_Otter"][QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

Jesus is everyone only looking at GPUs like The GTX 590 and stuff?

THere are GPUs in affordable price:performance ratios for everyone.

Alienware_fan

Agreed. I know they wanted to start reporting them (they released a statement regarding doing it) but I don't think it really went anywhere. It's gonna be difficult as well due to Valve not releasing any sales data.lundy86_4

um...I thought they were already doing that...we were told multiple times by Hermits this was the case *and conviently they had to include mmos, flash and facebook games to make it so*

Seems to me like Nvidia is pissed the top 2 console makers aren't using their chips..

Stop lying to yourself man. You dont have to lie to look good.

Alienware_fan

He isn't lying. Due to most devs putting consoles as the main platform PC GPUs have a much longer life span.

Too bad we dont even get 2x the performance.

Alienware_fan

Maybe you but not me and others.

[QUOTE="Alienware_fan"]

Too bad we dont even get 2x the performance.

NoodleFighter

Maybe you but not me and others.

[QUOTE="Alienware_fan"]

[QUOTE="PC_Otter"] Anyone who bought a 8800 GTX is still enjoying very good performance, even after almost 5 years.PC_Otter

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[QUOTE="Alienware_fan"]

Too bad we dont even get 2x the performance.

Alienware_fan

Maybe you but not me and others.

He plays in 1080p. With better textures than consoles. So I'd say he's doing fine.

[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

[QUOTE="Alienware_fan"]

Too bad we dont even get 2x the performance.

Alienware_fan

Maybe you but not me and others.

Hmm I guess if playing games like Batman AA maxed out with Nvidia physx, 1080p, and 8xCSAA and still managing over 50fps while consoles are stuck at medium quality, sub hd and 30fps then yes :P

[QUOTE="PC_Otter"][QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

Jesus is everyone only looking at GPUs like The GTX 590 and stuff?

THere are GPUs in affordable price:performance ratios for everyone.

Alienware_fan

[QUOTE="Alienware_fan"]

[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

Maybe you but not me and others.

NoodleFighter

Hmm I guess if playing games like Batman AA maxed out with Nvidia physx, 1080p, and 8xCSAA and still managing over 50fps while consoles are stuck at medium quality, sub hd and 30fps then yes :P

[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

[QUOTE="Alienware_fan"]

Too bad we dont even get 2x the performance.

Alienware_fan

Maybe you but not me and others.

[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

[QUOTE="Alienware_fan"]

Too bad we dont even get 2x the performance.

Alienware_fan

Maybe you but not me and others.

Well I game at 1600p (2560x1600) all settings maxed. You should see how a console focused multiplat like BulletStorm looks on my PC, blows anything on consoles visually. The tech gap is rather large, but this is not what console's are about, hence why I also own a PS3 and 360.

[QUOTE="PC_Otter"][QUOTE="Alienware_fan"]Stop lying to yourself man. You dont have to lie to look good.

Alienware_fan

[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

[QUOTE="Alienware_fan"]So you get 10x more performance than the consoles?

Alienware_fan

Hmm I guess if playing games like Batman AA maxed out with Nvidia physx, 1080p, and 8xCSAA and still managing over 50fps while consoles are stuck at medium quality, sub hd and 30fps then yes :P

Metro 2033 on PC does

[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

[QUOTE="Alienware_fan"]So you get 10x more performance than the consoles?

Alienware_fan

Hmm I guess if playing games like Batman AA maxed out with Nvidia physx, 1080p, and 8xCSAA and still managing over 50fps while consoles are stuck at medium quality, sub hd and 30fps then yes :P

I can believe it.

While consoles are highly lucrative Media devices, the PC market keeps growing.

Personally, I'm somewhat doubtfull about the advantages of adopting something like Windows 8, but the increased userfriendliness is apparent.

My household alone contains about 4 laptops, consoles have certainly carved their niché, but the PC is anything but dead.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="Alienware_fan"]So you get 10x more performance than the consoles get?

Alienware_fan

And lets do some other math shall we, the 360 gpu uses an average of 256mb of memoy and the gpu can only do 240 GFLOPS while an AMD 6950 has upto 2048mb of memory

and does 2.25 TFLOPS of performance or 2000+ GFLOPS

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"] Agreed. I know they wanted to start reporting them (they released a statement regarding doing it) but I don't think it really went anywhere. It's gonna be difficult as well due to Valve not releasing any sales data.topsemag55

They can't. Those numbers are owned by publishers, not Valve.

Sure, bring in more money for Nvidia.

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[QUOTE="ocidax"]

lolololol, the next gen consoles from Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo are going to use ATI GPUS. More money only for Nvidia, not Ati.

ocidax

[QUOTE="ocidax"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Doing console chips is fine, but it's petite money compared to what Nvidia sells on PC market

AdrianWerner

The HD 5000 series alone sold over 25 million units alone most where ranging from the 5700-5970

9 times mroe powerful then current consoles.... told yall PC gaming was atleast 2 gens ahead.

It always cracks me up when haters say PC GAMING IS DYING!!!! When its only getting stronger! Digital Download sales are HUGE now.

kozzy1234

Portal 2 sold better on pc than it did on xbox or ps3. Also look at free to play games.

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

9 times mroe powerful then current consoles.... told yall PC gaming was atleast 2 gens ahead.

It always cracks me up when haters say PC GAMING IS DYING!!!! When its only getting stronger! Digital Download sales are HUGE now.

jettpack

Portal 2 sold better on pc than it did on xbox or ps3. Also look at free to play games.

And I can guarantee you that Left 4 Dead 1/2 made more money on the PC, even though it sold more on the consoles. What with the much larger profit margin and all the income they get from all those dedicated servers :)

First off that's more marketing than news imo. Nvidia has every reason to cherry pick numbers and make optimistic predictions. But if the numbers are true I must say I'm suprised how good consoles are doing. With one tenth the power of high end rigs and being outperformed also by PC:s cheaper than consoles, it's amazing that software sales can still grow. Really shows how sound the console model is financially.

First off that's more marketing than news imo. Nvidia has every reason to cherry pick numbers and make optimistic predictions. But if the numbers are true I must say I'm suprised how good consoles are doing. With one tenth the power of high end rigs and being outperformed also by PC:s cheaper than consoles, it's amazing that software sales can still grow. Really shows how sound the console model is financially.

Sushiglutton

You do realise that includes all consoles and handhelds? Also Nvidia didn't conduct that survey. Another survey last year showed practically the same thing.

Why are people so defensive over this anyway? It's not like it's something that hurts you. When you think about it this was going to happen sooner or later.

VIA DD devs can get almost full $$$ for every copy sold. No gamestop middle man, no shipping, no boxing etc etc

It costs less to make a PC game than a console game

You don't need huge advertisement for PC games to do well.

etc etc