Nvidia says: PC's will bring in more money than consoles by 2014

[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]

First off that's more marketing than news imo. Nvidia has every reason to cherry pick numbers and make optimistic predictions. But if the numbers are true I must say I'm suprised how good consoles are doing. With one tenth the power of high end rigs and being outperformed also by PC:s cheaper than consoles, it's amazing that software sales can still grow. Really shows how sound the console model is financially.

ducati101

You do realise that includes all consoles and handhelds? Also Nvidia didn't conduct that survey. Another survey last year showed practically the same thing.

First off that's more marketing than news imo. Nvidia has every reason to cherry pick numbers and make optimistic predictions. But if the numbers are true I must say I'm suprised how good consoles are doing. With one tenth the power of high end rigs and being outperformed also by PC:s cheaper than consoles, it's amazing that software sales can still grow. Really shows how sound the console model is financially.

Sushiglutton

LOL, what?

You're kidding right?

DO you know how many BILLIONS of dollars MS, nintendo and Sony have sunk into each console generaiton in terms of marketing, and hardware subsudizing? Let's just say you can run a first world country with much less money.

All that is saying is that if you spend Billions on marketing, and you essentially take a loss ont he product that you sell (hardware subsudizing), you'll move a lot of inventory.... well, duh!

What this does do is paint an incredible picture for PC.

There is NO ONE spending a SINGLE dime marketing PC as a gaming platform in mainstream media, OR subsidizing hardware costs.

And YET, it's still 3/4 of what ALL consoles COMBINED bring in (including hand helds).

THAT is amazing.

9x better =/= 9 times more powerful.DragonfireXZ95

And I claimed differently? Did you even read my posts?

When you're able to play across multiple monitors in 3D at resolutions of 7680x1600 at 120FPS with loads of AA or even Super Sampling with DX11 features let me know.

Havok guy

Sure that looks better but you think that looks 9x or even 8 or 7 timesbetter than something like Gears 3?Themore power to you then, but reallysomething 9x better than Gears 3 would be photorealisticon a huge scale. GTA IV modded is probably the closest thing to that right nowand even that is still a ways off.

I take you never game on a high end PC.mitu123

Not very often no. I've triedCrysis on very high or whatever the setting is actually called (fps was too unstable to do more than just look at the prettiness). But I've seen all the bullshots too and even those don't look 9x better. It really seems like everyone is underestimating how much 9x better really is.

What the hermits don't seem to understand is that just because their games do look a lotbetter that the HD consoles are no slouches themselves, and now the next gen of consolesis right around the corner.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

And I claimed differently? Did you even read my posts?

[QUOTE="Havok guy"]

When you're able to play across multiple monitors in 3D at resolutions of 7680x1600 at 120FPS with loads of AA or even Super Sampling with DX11 features let me know.

Giant_Panda

Sure that looks better but you think that looks 9x or even 8 or 7 timesbetter than something like Gears 3?Themore power to you then, but reallysomething 9x better than Gears 3 would be photorealisticon a huge scale. GTA IV modded is probably the closest thing to that right nowand even that is still a ways off.

I take you never game on a high end PC.mitu123

Not very often no. I've triedCrysis on very high or whatever the setting is actually called (fps was too unstable to do more than just look at the prettiness). But I've seen all the bullshots too and even those don't look 9x better. It really seems like everyone is underestimating how much 9x better really is.

What the hermits don't seem to understand is that just because their games do look a lotbetter that the HD consoles are no slouches themselves, and now the next gen of consolesis right around the corner.

You're desperate :P even with next gen consoles we'll own them too just like we did with Crysis and Gears of War PC version. You wanna see 9x that bad? Okey dokey!

[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

Yeah.. a time will come when bros eat pizza, and drink beer while playing MMO's and RTS games, hunched over a 19 inch monitor /sarcasm

Consoles will always dominate in sales because they appeal to casual gamers.

The day when you can buy a pre-built High end rig for $300, will be the day PC's bring in more money than consoles.

ConsolesFTW

This is the issue in a nutshell, and the reason I am a consolite.

[QUOTE="ConsolesFTW"][QUOTE="Tikeio"]

Yeah.. a time will come when bros eat pizza, and drink beer while playing MMO's and RTS games, hunched over a 19 inch monitor /sarcasm

Consoles will always dominate in sales because they appeal to casual gamers.

The day when you can buy a pre-built High end rig for $300, will be the day PC's bring in more money than consoles.

sayyy-gaa

This is the issue in a nutshell, and the reason I am a consolite.

First of all: you get what you pay for. In this case, an outdated, poorly performing game box.

You pay a little more and you get a machine that ACTUALLY does everything.

Secondly, PC gmaing can be cheaper depending on how many games you puchase ina given generation, and depending on the type of gamer you are.

I know I've easily saved WAY more money since 2007 over my console friends just in Steam sales alone, even though I easily own 4 times as many games as they do.

You pay a little more and you get a machine that ACTUALLY does everything.

Kinthalis

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

You pay a little more and you get a machine that ACTUALLY does everything.

lowe0

Your analogy is flawed. You are illustarting precisely WHY a specialized object may not be what you specifically need.

The PC is not like a pickup truck or a minivan. the PC is like a friggin transformer than can change between a sports car, a truck, or a space shuttle, depeding on your needs! :)

[QUOTE="Giant_Panda"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

Sure that looks better but you think that looks 9x or even 8 or 7 timesbetter than something like Gears 3?Themore power to you then, but reallysomething 9x better than Gears 3 would be photorealisticon a huge scale. GTA IV modded is probably the closest thing to that right nowand even that is still a ways off.

[QUOTE="mitu123"] I take you never game on a high end PC.NoodleFighter

Not very often no. I've triedCrysis on very high or whatever the setting is actually called (fps was too unstable to do more than just look at the prettiness). But I've seen all the bullshots too and even those don't look 9x better. It really seems like everyone is underestimating how much 9x better really is.

What the hermits don't seem to understand is that just because their games do look a lotbetter that the HD consoles are no slouches themselves, and now the next gen of consolesis right around the corner.

You're desperate :P even with next gen consoles we'll own them too just like we did with Crysis and Gears of War PC version. You wanna see 9x that bad? Okey dokey!

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Haha keep thinking what you want man, some people are stuck in their ways.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

You pay a little more and you get a machine that ACTUALLY does everything.

Kinthalis

Your analogy is flawed. You are illustarting precisely WHY a specialized object may not be what you specifically need.

The PC is not like a pickup truck or a minivan. the PC is like a friggin transformer than can change between a sports car, a truck, or a space shuttle, depeding on your needs! :)

Yeah.. a time will come when bros eat pizza, and drink beer while playing MMO's and RTS games, hunched over a 19 inch monitor /sarcasm

Consoles will always dominate in sales because they appeal to casual gamers.

The day when you can buy a pre-built High end rig for $300, will be the day PC's bring in more money than consoles.

Tikeio

[QUOTE="Giant_Panda"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

Sure that looks better but you think that looks 9x or even 8 or 7 timesbetter than something like Gears 3?Themore power to you then, but reallysomething 9x better than Gears 3 would be photorealisticon a huge scale. GTA IV modded is probably the closest thing to that right nowand even that is still a ways off.

[QUOTE="mitu123"] I take you never game on a high end PC.NoodleFighter

Not very often no. I've triedCrysis on very high or whatever the setting is actually called (fps was too unstable to do more than just look at the prettiness). But I've seen all the bullshots too and even those don't look 9x better. It really seems like everyone is underestimating how much 9x better really is.

What the hermits don't seem to understand is that just because their games do look a lotbetter that the HD consoles are no slouches themselves, and now the next gen of consolesis right around the corner.

You're desperate :P even with next gen consoles we'll own them too just like we did with Crysis and Gears of War PC version. You wanna see 9x that bad? Okey dokey!

Last night I was looking at some PC games and my cousin (PS3 Gamer) started trolling me about how no one plays on PC cause he's never heard of one and all that. He kept saying all our games are coming to consoles cause that's the only place where they'll sell. I told him that was also false but he kept bringing up CoD sales and I'm like can you say something other then that? He keeps saying CoD sales so I showed him StarCraft 2 but he laughed and said it didn't count (I'm guessing cause it's not some console like game heavy on the cutscenes and all that).

Last night I was looking at some PC games and my cousin (PS3 Gamer) started trolling me about how no one plays on PC cause he's never heard of one and all that. He kept saying all our games are coming to consoles cause that's the only place where they'll sell. I told him that was also false but he kept bringing up CoD sales and I'm like can you say something other then that? He keeps saying CoD sales so I showed him StarCraft 2 but he laughed and said it didn't count (I'm guessing cause it's not some console like game heavy on the cutscenes and all that).

NoodleFighter

[QUOTE="sayyy-gaa"]

[QUOTE="ConsolesFTW"] Agreed. Consoles will never die. Where else can you get PC level graphics for $200?Kinthalis

This is the issue in a nutshell, and the reason I am a consolite.

First of all: you get what you pay for. In this case, an outdated, poorly performing game box.

You pay a little more and you get a machine that ACTUALLY does everything.

Secondly, PC gmaing can be cheaper depending on how many games you puchase ina given generation, and depending on the type of gamer you are.

I know I've easily saved WAY more money since 2007 over my console friends just in Steam sales alone, even though I easily own 4 times as many games as they do.

Dude, I'm not saying PC has no advantages, I'm saying that for $200-$250 you can't beat a console, and outdated is meaningless. It has NO meaning. As long as current games are being made that push the system, you're getting great value. How much morevalue are you REALLY getting out of a $500-800 PC when most of the games are still on the level ofan outdated, poorly performing game box. PC games do look better, but not tons without mods. So value is all depending. And given ebay and gamestop, games can easily be purchased for far less that retail. Value is in the eye of the beholder.

i'm catching Zs like an early morning saw when I woke up to the racket yawn and pause
What the **** man I can never get sleep man, peeped out the window what's wrong with ya'll?:DPS4:)

Nvidia marketing much? Either way, if true, that means PC only is already 3/4 of all consoles COMBINED. That was the whole point.nintendog66

This was exactly what Newzoo and Intel researches showed last year. Nvidia isn't the only one predicting the PC revenue will surpass all the consoles together in the next few years.

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

[QUOTE="sayyy-gaa"]

This is the issue in a nutshell, and the reason I am a consolite.

sayyy-gaa

First of all: you get what you pay for. In this case, an outdated, poorly performing game box.

You pay a little more and you get a machine that ACTUALLY does everything.

Secondly, PC gmaing can be cheaper depending on how many games you puchase ina given generation, and depending on the type of gamer you are.

I know I've easily saved WAY more money since 2007 over my console friends just in Steam sales alone, even though I easily own 4 times as many games as they do.

Dude, I'm not saying PC has no advantages, I'm saying that for $200-$250 you can't beat a console, and outdated is meaningless. It has NO meaning. As long as current games are being made that push the system, you're getting great value. How much morevalue are you REALLY getting out of a $500-800 PC when most of the games are still on the level ofan outdated, poorly performing game box. PC games do look better, but not tons without mods. So value is all depending. And given ebay and gamestop, games can easily be purchased for far less that retail. Value is in the eye of the beholder.

No just no

That's great and all but what i really want to know is...why is there an apostrophe in PCs?

Why are people trying to downplay Free to play and MMOs and pass them off as casual stuff inorder to make themselves feel good and believe consoles market are 100% core gaming when casual revenue makes the majority on all platforms apparently they haven't paid attention to what's going on in there and the F2P/MMO market :P

Just a look at the future/current of F2P and MMOs

For those who say MMOs/F2P don't matter cause their not "core" tell what about these titles doesn't make them core?

You didn't include League of Legends. It even has a pro gaming scene!!rpgs_shall_rule

I assume they would say it wouldn't count since it got no shootin or button mashin and has a lot in common with RTS which isn't catered to their systems. :P

You didn't include League of Legends. It even has a pro gaming scene!!rpgs_shall_rule

The great thing about F2P games is that this model allows for big budgeted PC exclusives in genres that usually stick to low-budget now when devs want to go PC-only route.

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

You pay a little more and you get a machine that ACTUALLY does everything.

lowe0

Unlike a truck or a van, a gaming PC has both speed and capability.