Obviously Uncharted 2 is Not console graphics king. (56k N/A)

[QUOTE="Delsage"]

Chrome armor? Where does his shirt look like that from Gears of War? Looks like it's wet to me. Much like this shot:

BioShockOwnz

Damn, looks like rubber.

As you can see, my argument is just as logical as an argument saying Gears or ME look like plastic, shiny, whatever, when you consider the freaking suits they're in. Come on, now. :| The lengths some will go to these days. Truly amazing.

Also, why are the stones on the ground flat, and where are the ripples in the water pond? It's RAINING... People can nitpick just as well as TC.

[QUOTE="Threebabycows"]

[QUOTE="Delsage"] Mass Effect has the epitome of Plastic looking charecters. Delsage

Mass effect doesn't look plastic, as much as you are gonna call me a fanboy for this, MGS4 looks plastic lol, deff.

Oh really?

Mass Effect 2 shots:

My old action figures look more life like.

mass effect 2? thats mass effect 1 *facepalm*

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Delsage"]

Chrome armor? Where does his shirt look like that from Gears of War? Looks like it's wet to me. Much like this shot:

Hanass

Damn, looks like rubber.

As you can see, my argument is just as logical as an argument saying Gears or ME look like plastic, shiny, whatever, when you consider the freaking suits they're in. Come on, now. :| The lengths some will go to these days. Truly amazing.

Also, why are the stones on the ground flat, and where are the ripples in the water pond? It's RAINING... People can nitpick just as well as TC.

Indeed. When you're in freaking plasticy or metal armor, then of course it'll have the characteristics of what the suit is made out of. *facepalm*

And that's why I brought out the sarcasm, as it shows hypocrisy. If s shirts wet, then of course it'll have that look. But no, I can come up with something. It looks teh rubbery.

Or, never mind the material of Snakes outfit:

Action figure rubber.

[QUOTE="Hanass"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Damn, looks like rubber.

As you can see, my argument is just as logical as an argument saying Gears or ME look like plastic, shiny, whatever, when you consider the freaking suits they're in. Come on, now. :| The lengths some will go to these days. Truly amazing.

BioShockOwnz

Also, why are the stones on the ground flat, and where are the ripples in the water pond? It's RAINING... People can nitpick just as well as TC.

Indeed. When you're in freaking plasticy or metal armor, then of course it'll have the characteristics of what the suit is made out of. *facepalm*

....and thread backfire.

[QUOTE="Delsage"]

Chrome armor? Where does his shirt look like that from Gears of War? Looks like it's wet to me. Much like this shot:

BioShockOwnz

Damn, looks like rubber.

As you can see, my argument is just as logical as an argument saying Gears or ME look like platic, shiny, whatever, when you consider the freaking suits they're in. Come on, now. :|

Rubber, seriously?

Well enough of that, but common you can't tell me that Mass Effect has anything natural going on with it's Graphics, it's not just the armor either, take a look at their facial expressions, each and everyone of them looks stiff, like they're all part of a collective or something.

Even their skin looks unnatural. But I will give that Mass Effect does have a graphical shine to it. The aliens are indeed impressive looking, and the inside environments give a lighting and effect that has a Star Wars vibe to it.

Is this a Joke? Everyone already knows that the cutscenes are rendered in game, you can even check it out on IGN...

Cutscenes are render in-game. Self Ownage ftw!

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention: all the screens of Uncharted 2 are downscaled to fit the computer monitor, so the real game, magnified by your 51 inch HDTV, will show all the jaggies, which are masked when the screens are downscaled.

Rubber, seriously?

Well enough of that, but common you can't tell me that Mass Effect has anything natural going on with it's Graphics, it's not just the armor either, take a look at their facial expressions, each and everyone of them looks stiff, like they're all part of a collective or something.

Even their skin looks unnatural. But I will give that Mass Effect does have a graphical shine to it. The aliens are indeed impressive looking, and the inside environments give a lighting and effect that has a Star Wars vibe to it.

Delsage

Seriously? Wait, so it's okie dokie for you to call out Mass Effect with the "action figures" insult, yet they have the plasticy/metal appearance due to the characteristics of said material. I get it. So it doesn't make sense to say a shirt looks rubber due to its characteristics with rain, yet it's alright to do it with Mass Effect, even though it looks like what the suit would look like in real life and has those same characteristics? Dear god. Unbelievable.

And to your second argument, let's get the facts in there, bud.

As I postedf already and you should have read already...

"It's really not fair to compare an Uncharted 2 cutscene to Mass Effect 1 or 2. While Uncharted 2 cutscenes are using the in-game engine, they're not happening dynamically in-game, thus they can have huge production values and absolutely stellar animations. Mass Effect, since it's an RPG, in which the character can change his outfit and appearance, the cutscene must refelct said changes, so all the cutscenes in Mass Effect happen dynamically in-game."

But hey, I know how it works. Ignore the facts to bash games, right? That's normal here, right?

And their skin look fine. I guess you don't like that Mass Effect outscored Uncharted. Oh well. One is better. And that isn't Uncharted.

[QUOTE="Ninten007"]

[QUOTE="enterawesome"]Joke thread r joke? Either way, I still don't find Uncharted 2 at all impressive. Sure, it has a lot of polygons, but it doesn't have any style. The art is bland and generic as any shooter. In fact, the run-down city looks a lot like the small run-down city in the trailers for Modern Warfare 2.... Point in case, an adventure game should look grand and magnificent, yet natural, like in Indiana Jones, not a Gears of War rip-off. Killzone 2 looks way better, it exceeds in art and technical departments.enterawesome

I guess you have not seen small clips of the jungle and the snowy mountains. Who knows where else the game would take you. This game does not only take place in run down city. If anything it looks better, bigger, and more grand than Indiana Jones.

The jungle is anything but a rehash. The first one took place in a lush South American tropical jungle. This one takes place in a swampy Asian jungle.

[QUOTE="Delsage"]

Rubber, seriously?

Well enough of that, but common you can't tell me that Mass Effect has anything natural going on with it's Graphics, it's not just the armor either, take a look at their facial expressions, each and everyone of them looks stiff, like they're all part of a collective or something.

Even their skin looks unnatural. But I will give that Mass Effect does have a graphical shine to it. The aliens are indeed impressive looking, and the inside environments give a lighting and effect that has a Star Wars vibe to it.

BioShockOwnz

Seriously? Wait, so it's okie dokie for you to call out Mass Effect with the "action figures" insult, yet they have the plasticy/metal appearance due to the characteristics of said material. I get it. So it doesn't make sense to say a shirt looks rubber due to its characteristics with rain, yet it's alright to do it with Mass Effect, even though it looks like what the suit would look like in real life and has those same characteristics? Dear god. Unbelievable.

And to your second argument, let's get the facts in there, bud.

As I postedf already and you should have read already...

"It's really not fair to compare an Uncharted 2 cutscene to Mass Effect 1 or 2. While Uncharted 2 cutscenes are using the in-game engine, they're not happening dynamically in-game, thus they can have huge production values and absolutely stellar animations. Mass Effect, since it's an RPG, in which the character can change his outfit and appearance, the cutscene must refelct said changes, so all the cutscenes in Mass Effect happen dynamically in-game."

But hey, I know how it works. Ignore the facts to bash games, right? That's normal here, right?

And their skin look fine. I guess you don't like that Mass Effect outscored Uncharted. Oh well. One is better. And that isn't Uncharted.

Yes cause that .5 difference makes Mass Effect such a better game. Seriously the PC version of Mass Effect scored better than the 360 version, at least one got it right.

I was not the one who brought Mass Effect into play, but I notice how you and other lemmings try to bring Metal Gear Solid 4 on the table to try and claim "ownage" well personnally that's fine with me, but if you really want to throw scores around to see what's the better game, than how about this one.

MGS4: 10

Mass Effect: 8.5

Good job trying to "own" me as some of the lemmings have so claimed.

The characters in Mass Effect do look like plastic, and I don't think you can counteract that statement as you have done a good job embarrassing your self into trying to point out any flaws you can with Uncharted 2 just to prove a point.

Both cutscenes for Uncharted and Mass Effect are done from ingame engine as you said. While Mass Effect may be "somewhat" interactive as you can control what the character says for the conversation, it not like it's completely interactive as your making it out to be. Nor with gameplay can you interact with the environment of Mass Effect as you can with Uncharted.

Most of the time the Characters in Mass Effect do look stiff, and there is little movement even in the cutscenes. I urge you to prove me wrong on this, even their facial expressions remain the same.

[QUOTE="Delsage"]

Rubber, seriously?

Well enough of that, but common you can't tell me that Mass Effect has anything natural going on with it's Graphics, it's not just the armor either, take a look at their facial expressions, each and everyone of them looks stiff, like they're all part of a collective or something.

Even their skin looks unnatural. But I will give that Mass Effect does have a graphical shine to it. The aliens are indeed impressive looking, and the inside environments give a lighting and effect that has a Star Wars vibe to it.

BioShockOwnz

Seriously? Wait, so it's okie dokie for you to call out Mass Effect with the "action figures" insult, yet they have the plasticy/metal appearance due to the characteristics of said material. I get it. So it doesn't make sense to say a shirt looks rubber due to its characteristics with rain, yet it's alright to do it with Mass Effect, even though it looks like what the suit would look like in real life and has those same characteristics? Dear god. Unbelievable.

And to your second argument, let's get the facts in there, bud.

As I postedf already and you should have read already...

"It's really not fair to compare an Uncharted 2 cutscene to Mass Effect 1 or 2. While Uncharted 2 cutscenes are using the in-game engine, they're not happening dynamically in-game, thus they can have huge production values and absolutely stellar animations. Mass Effect, since it's an RPG, in which the character can change his outfit and appearance, the cutscene must refelct said changes, so all the cutscenes in Mass Effect happen dynamically in-game."

But hey, I know how it works. Ignore the facts to bash games, right? That's normal here, right?

And their skin look fine. I guess you don't like that Mass Effect outscored Uncharted. Oh well. One is better. And that isn't Uncharted.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]This game tops uncharted!Delsage

I hate your sarcasm, you take it way too far. Good sarcasm is when it's subtle and only the clever people know you are kidding, but it's so obvious who you are really rooting for, it's like you aren't even trying.

ppl can argue all they want but uncharted 2 will be console graphic king. you can say "imo this, imo that" but guess what, your opinion doesnt matter. critics say that uncharted 2 is the best looking console game then its the best looking console game. they know more then you so stop arguing.....

this on my HDTV=:shock:

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Delsage"]

Rubber, seriously?

Well enough of that, but common you can't tell me that Mass Effect has anything natural going on with it's Graphics, it's not just the armor either, take a look at their facial expressions, each and everyone of them looks stiff, like they're all part of a collective or something.

Even their skin looks unnatural. But I will give that Mass Effect does have a graphical shine to it. The aliens are indeed impressive looking, and the inside environments give a lighting and effect that has a Star Wars vibe to it.

Delsage

Seriously? Wait, so it's okie dokie for you to call out Mass Effect with the "action figures" insult, yet they have the plasticy/metal appearance due to the characteristics of said material. I get it. So it doesn't make sense to say a shirt looks rubber due to its characteristics with rain, yet it's alright to do it with Mass Effect, even though it looks like what the suit would look like in real life and has those same characteristics? Dear god. Unbelievable.

And to your second argument, let's get the facts in there, bud.

As I postedf already and you should have read already...

"It's really not fair to compare an Uncharted 2 cutscene to Mass Effect 1 or 2. While Uncharted 2 cutscenes are using the in-game engine, they're not happening dynamically in-game, thus they can have huge production values and absolutely stellar animations. Mass Effect, since it's an RPG, in which the character can change his outfit and appearance, the cutscene must refelct said changes, so all the cutscenes in Mass Effect happen dynamically in-game."

But hey, I know how it works. Ignore the facts to bash games, right? That's normal here, right?

And their skin look fine. I guess you don't like that Mass Effect outscored Uncharted. Oh well. One is better. And that isn't Uncharted.

Yes cause that .5 difference makes Mass Effect such a better game. Seriously the PC version of Mass Effect scored better than the 360 version, at least one got it right.

I was not the one who brought Mass Effect into play, but I notice how you and other lemmings try to bring Metal Gear Solid 4 on the table to try and claim "ownage" well personnally that's fine with me, but if you really want to throw scores around to see what's the better game, than how about this one.

MGS4: 10

Mass Effect: 8.5

Good job trying to "own" me as some of the lemmings have so claimed.

The characters in Mass Effect do look like plastic, and I don't think you can counteract that statement as you have done a good job embarrassing your self into trying to point out any flaws you can with Uncharted 2 just to prove a point.

Both cutscenes for Uncharted and Mass Effect are done from ingame engine as you said. While Mass Effect may be "somewhat" interactive as you can control what the character says for the conversation, it not like it's completely interactive as your making it out to be. Nor with gameplay can you interact with the environment of Mass Effect as you can with Uncharted.

Most of the time the Characters in Mass Effect do look stiff, and there is little movement even in the cutscenes. I urge you to prove me wrong on this, even their facial expressions remain the same.

One got it right? Yet both still outscored Uncharted. Lulz. I guess Uncharted got it very wrong, atleast by the logic you're using. Lol.

Embarrassing myself? You're the one that started this. As stated in a previous post, had you read it, I was posting the U2 screen to show the hypocrisy in this argument. It's okie dokie for U2 to show the characteristics of rain on his shirt, thus making it have a shiny appearance, yet it's wrong when a plasticy/metal kind of material has natural characteristics? It shows that said argument doesn't hold up and was only used to bash one game, but not the other, which fits right in with System Wars, I guess.

Like I said, both use the in-game engine for cutscenes. One uses it dynamically, though, like I said, which reflects said appearance changes and outfit changes. All RPG's with that ability use in-game interactive cutscenes, which prompts whenever you walk up to said character and begin interactive dialogue. That's a fact, and also why all RPG's of its kind don't show the exceptional animations of an Uncharted, etc. And also this explains said "stiffness", as the cutscenes and dialogue scenes happen dynamically in-game, thus they don't have the more linear and top notch produced scenes in a game that already has said scenes in motion and can't change to reflect in-game upgrades, such as clothes. The dialogue animations can only be as good as the actual combat animations, and that's the one downside to RPG's of its kind. But still, with that said, Uncharted failed to meet the 8.5 or 9.0.

I think graphics is how the game looks, how smooth the framerate is and how good are the animations.

Take RE5, yea that game looks awesome in screenshots, but the game's animations are terrible. The zombies dont move realistic or smooth,

Mass Effect looks great but as we know it has a choppy framerate, at least the 360 version.

But look at UC2, it looks incredible, has a smooth framerate, and the animations are outta this world.

This is why Uncharted 2 is the best in graphics so far on consoles.

ppl can argue all they want but uncharted 2 will be console graphic king. you can say "imo this, imo that" but guess what, your opinion doesnt matter. critics say that uncharted 2 is the best looking console game then its the best looking console game. they know more then you so stop arguing.....

YekDastan316

Let me make sure I understand this. You allow critics to dictate what you enjoy? If a critic says Uncharted 2 is a terrible game, you will go by that because that is what the critic said?

ppl can argue all they want but uncharted 2 will be console graphic king. you can say "imo this, imo that" but guess what, your opinion doesnt matter. critics say that uncharted 2 is the best looking console game then its the best looking console game. they know more then you so stop arguing.....

YekDastan316

[QUOTE="Delsage"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Seriously? Wait, so it's okie dokie for you to call out Mass Effect with the "action figures" insult, yet they have the plasticy/metal appearance due to the characteristics of said material. I get it. So it doesn't make sense to say a shirt looks rubber due to its characteristics with rain, yet it's alright to do it with Mass Effect, even though it looks like what the suit would look like in real life and has those same characteristics? Dear god. Unbelievable.

And to your second argument, let's get the facts in there, bud.

As I postedf already and you should have read already...

"It's really not fair to compare an Uncharted 2 cutscene to Mass Effect 1 or 2. While Uncharted 2 cutscenes are using the in-game engine, they're not happening dynamically in-game, thus they can have huge production values and absolutely stellar animations. Mass Effect, since it's an RPG, in which the character can change his outfit and appearance, the cutscene must refelct said changes, so all the cutscenes in Mass Effect happen dynamically in-game."

But hey, I know how it works. Ignore the facts to bash games, right? That's normal here, right?

And their skin look fine. I guess you don't like that Mass Effect outscored Uncharted. Oh well. One is better. And that isn't Uncharted.

BioShockOwnz

Yes cause that .5 difference makes Mass Effect such a better game. Seriously the PC version of Mass Effect scored better than the 360 version, at least one got it right.

I was not the one who brought Mass Effect into play, but I notice how you and other lemmings try to bring Metal Gear Solid 4 on the table to try and claim "ownage" well personnally that's fine with me, but if you really want to throw scores around to see what's the better game, than how about this one.

MGS4: 10

Mass Effect: 8.5

Good job trying to "own" me as some of the lemmings have so claimed.

The characters in Mass Effect do look like plastic, and I don't think you can counteract that statement as you have done a good job embarrassing your self into trying to point out any flaws you can with Uncharted 2 just to prove a point.

Both cutscenes for Uncharted and Mass Effect are done from ingame engine as you said. While Mass Effect may be "somewhat" interactive as you can control what the character says for the conversation, it not like it's completely interactive as your making it out to be. Nor with gameplay can you interact with the environment of Mass Effect as you can with Uncharted.

Most of the time the Characters in Mass Effect do look stiff, and there is little movement even in the cutscenes. I urge you to prove me wrong on this, even their facial expressions remain the same.

One got it right? Yet both still outscored Uncharted. Lulz. I guess Uncharted got it very wrong, atleast by the logic you're using. Lol.

Embarrassing myself? You're the one that started this. As stated in a previous post, had you read it, I was posting the U2 screen to show the hypocrisy in this argument. It's okie dokie for U2 to show the characteristics of rain on his shirt, thus making it have a shiny appearance, yet it's wrong when a plasticy/metal kind of material has natural characteristics? It shows that said argument doesn't hold up and was only used to bash one game, but not the other, which fits right in with System Wars, I guess.

Like I said, both use the in-game engine for cutscenes. One uses it dynamically, though, like I said, which reflects said appearance changes and outfit changes. All RPG's with that ability use an in-game interactive cutscenes, which prompts whenever you walk up to said character and begin interactive dialogue. That's a fact, and also why all RPG's of its kind don't show the exceptional animations of an Uncharted, etc. And also this explains said "stuffness", as the cutscenes and dialogue scenes happen dynamically in-game, thus they don't have the more linear and top notch produced scenes in a game that already has said scenes in motion and can't change to reflect in-game upgrades, such as clothes. The dialogue animations can only be as good as the actual combat animations, and that's the one downside to RPG's of its kind. But still, with that said, Uncharted failed to meet the 8.5 or 9.0.

[QUOTE="YekDastan316"]

ppl can argue all they want but uncharted 2 will be console graphic king. you can say "imo this, imo that" but guess what, your opinion doesnt matter. critics say that uncharted 2 is the best looking console game then its the best looking console game. they know more then you so stop arguing.....

Nonstop-Madness

Also, people need to wait until it comes out, for all you know they could have just shown the best looking parts are E3, and the rest is still good but not graphics king material.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Delsage"]

Yes cause that .5 difference makes Mass Effect such a better game. Seriously the PC version of Mass Effect scored better than the 360 version, at least one got it right.

I was not the one who brought Mass Effect into play, but I notice how you and other lemmings try to bring Metal Gear Solid 4 on the table to try and claim "ownage" well personnally that's fine with me, but if you really want to throw scores around to see what's the better game, than how about this one.

MGS4: 10

Mass Effect: 8.5

Good job trying to "own" me as some of the lemmings have so claimed.

The characters in Mass Effect do look like plastic, and I don't think you can counteract that statement as you have done a good job embarrassing your self into trying to point out any flaws you can with Uncharted 2 just to prove a point.

Both cutscenes for Uncharted and Mass Effect are done from ingame engine as you said. While Mass Effect may be "somewhat" interactive as you can control what the character says for the conversation, it not like it's completely interactive as your making it out to be. Nor with gameplay can you interact with the environment of Mass Effect as you can with Uncharted.

Most of the time the Characters in Mass Effect do look stiff, and there is little movement even in the cutscenes. I urge you to prove me wrong on this, even their facial expressions remain the same.

brennan7777

One got it right? Yet both still outscored Uncharted. Lulz. I guess Uncharted got it very wrong, atleast by the logic you're using. Lol.

Embarrassing myself? You're the one that started this. As stated in a previous post, had you read it, I was posting the U2 screen to show the hypocrisy in this argument. It's okie dokie for U2 to show the characteristics of rain on his shirt, thus making it have a shiny appearance, yet it's wrong when a plasticy/metal kind of material has natural characteristics? It shows that said argument doesn't hold up and was only used to bash one game, but not the other, which fits right in with System Wars, I guess.

Like I said, both use the in-game engine for cutscenes. One uses it dynamically, though, like I said, which reflects said appearance changes and outfit changes. All RPG's with that ability use an in-game interactive cutscenes, which prompts whenever you walk up to said character and begin interactive dialogue. That's a fact, and also why all RPG's of its kind don't show the exceptional animations of an Uncharted, etc. And also this explains said "stuffness", as the cutscenes and dialogue scenes happen dynamically in-game, thus they don't have the more linear and top notch produced scenes in a game that already has said scenes in motion and can't change to reflect in-game upgrades, such as clothes. The dialogue animations can only be as good as the actual combat animations, and that's the one downside to RPG's of its kind. But still, with that said, Uncharted failed to meet the 8.5 or 9.0.

And yet you post one liners without contributing to the topic at hand. No offense, but that's what you're doing here. No need for insults. Contribute and post long and somewhat on-topic debates to counteract those you disagree with.

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"][QUOTE="YekDastan316"]

ppl can argue all they want but uncharted 2 will be console graphic king. you can say "imo this, imo that" but guess what, your opinion doesnt matter. critics say that uncharted 2 is the best looking console game then its the best looking console game. they know more then you so stop arguing.....

Threebabycows

Also, people need to wait until it comes out, for all you know they could have just shown the best looking parts are E3, and the rest is still good but not graphics king material.

[QUOTE="Threebabycows"]

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"] You shouldnt say someone's opinion doesnt matter cause everyone opinion matters. Nonstop-Madness

Also, people need to wait until it comes out, for all you know they could have just shown the best looking parts are E3, and the rest is still good but not graphics king material.

I agree that U2 will be console graphics king this year.

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"][QUOTE="Threebabycows"]

Also, people need to wait until it comes out, for all you know they could have just shown the best looking parts are E3, and the rest is still good but not graphics king material.

BioShockOwnz

I agree that U2 will be console graphics king this year.

I am sorry but I see RE5 and U2 in the same way, graphically, the same amount of detail, it is just Uncharted has a more cartoony art s t y l e, therefore looks better on the eyes, which it does.

[QUOTE="brennan7777"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

One got it right? Yet both still outscored Uncharted. Lulz. I guess Uncharted got it very wrong, atleast by the logic you're using. Lol.

Embarrassing myself? You're the one that started this. As stated in a previous post, had you read it, I was posting the U2 screen to show the hypocrisy in this argument. It's okie dokie for U2 to show the characteristics of rain on his shirt, thus making it have a shiny appearance, yet it's wrong when a plasticy/metal kind of material has natural characteristics? It shows that said argument doesn't hold up and was only used to bash one game, but not the other, which fits right in with System Wars, I guess.

Like I said, both use the in-game engine for cutscenes. One uses it dynamically, though, like I said, which reflects said appearance changes and outfit changes. All RPG's with that ability use an in-game interactive cutscenes, which prompts whenever you walk up to said character and begin interactive dialogue. That's a fact, and also why all RPG's of its kind don't show the exceptional animations of an Uncharted, etc. And also this explains said "stuffness", as the cutscenes and dialogue scenes happen dynamically in-game, thus they don't have the more linear and top notch produced scenes in a game that already has said scenes in motion and can't change to reflect in-game upgrades, such as clothes. The dialogue animations can only be as good as the actual combat animations, and that's the one downside to RPG's of its kind. But still, with that said, Uncharted failed to meet the 8.5 or 9.0.

BioShockOwnz

And yet you post one liners without contributing to the topic at hand. No offense, but that's what you're doing here. No need for insults. Contribute and post long and somewhat on-topic debates to counteract those you disagree with.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="brennan7777"] This guy is funny. He's a fanboy who tries his hardest to sound like he is not.

brennan7777

And yet you post one liners without contributing to the topic at hand. No offense, but that's what you're doing here. No need for insults. Contribute and post long and somewhat on-topic debates to counteract those you disagree with.

I took it as such. If you want to counteract anything I said, then feel free to do so.

[QUOTE="darthogre"]lol, Banjo Nuts and Bolts looks better than Killzone 2...............so we are supposed to believe your opinion that these are all pre-rendered or touched up. "nowhere near as good as anything the 360 has to offer".................... rofl, only in system wars.Threebabycows

N&B looks very good.

Pixar movie like.

So does R&C.

Very good.

Last's ones pre-rendered though obviously.

This game tops uncharted!

Espada12

wow

even uncharted fanboys gotta admit thats definitely a contender

Agree with R&C...

Hot damn, son of sam! That's one fine *** lookin' game, brotha!

[QUOTE="Delsage"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Seriously? Wait, so it's okie dokie for you to call out Mass Effect with the "action figures" insult, yet they have the plasticy/metal appearance due to the characteristics of said material. I get it. So it doesn't make sense to say a shirt looks rubber due to its characteristics with rain, yet it's alright to do it with Mass Effect, even though it looks like what the suit would look like in real life and has those same characteristics? Dear god. Unbelievable.

And to your second argument, let's get the facts in there, bud.

As I postedf already and you should have read already...

"It's really not fair to compare an Uncharted 2 cutscene to Mass Effect 1 or 2. While Uncharted 2 cutscenes are using the in-game engine, they're not happening dynamically in-game, thus they can have huge production values and absolutely stellar animations. Mass Effect, since it's an RPG, in which the character can change his outfit and appearance, the cutscene must refelct said changes, so all the cutscenes in Mass Effect happen dynamically in-game."

But hey, I know how it works. Ignore the facts to bash games, right? That's normal here, right?

And their skin look fine. I guess you don't like that Mass Effect outscored Uncharted. Oh well. One is better. And that isn't Uncharted.

BioShockOwnz

Yes cause that .5 difference makes Mass Effect such a better game. Seriously the PC version of Mass Effect scored better than the 360 version, at least one got it right.

I was not the one who brought Mass Effect into play, but I notice how you and other lemmings try to bring Metal Gear Solid 4 on the table to try and claim "ownage" well personnally that's fine with me, but if you really want to throw scores around to see what's the better game, than how about this one.

MGS4: 10

Mass Effect: 8.5

Good job trying to "own" me as some of the lemmings have so claimed.

The characters in Mass Effect do look like plastic, and I don't think you can counteract that statement as you have done a good job embarrassing your self into trying to point out any flaws you can with Uncharted 2 just to prove a point.

Both cutscenes for Uncharted and Mass Effect are done from ingame engine as you said. While Mass Effect may be "somewhat" interactive as you can control what the character says for the conversation, it not like it's completely interactive as your making it out to be. Nor with gameplay can you interact with the environment of Mass Effect as you can with Uncharted.

Most of the time the Characters in Mass Effect do look stiff, and there is little movement even in the cutscenes. I urge you to prove me wrong on this, even their facial expressions remain the same.

One got it right? Yet both still outscored Uncharted. Lulz. I guess Uncharted got it very wrong, atleast by the logic you're using. Lol.

Embarrassing myself? You're the one that started this. As stated in a previous post, had you read it, I was posting the U2 screen to show the hypocrisy in this argument. It's okie dokie for U2 to show the characteristics of rain on his shirt, thus making it have a shiny appearance, yet it's wrong when a plasticy/metal kind of material has natural characteristics? It shows that said argument doesn't hold up and was only used to bash one game, but not the other, which fits right in with System Wars, I guess.

Like I said, both use the in-game engine for cutscenes. One uses it dynamically, though, like I said, which reflects said appearance changes and outfit changes. All RPG's with that ability use an in-game interactive cutscenes, which prompts whenever you walk up to said character and begin interactive dialogue. That's a fact, and also why all RPG's of its kind don't show the exceptional animations of an Uncharted, etc. And also this explains said "stuffness", as the cutscenes and dialogue scenes happen dynamically in-game, thus they don't have the more linear and top notch produced scenes in a game that already has said scenes in motion and can't change to reflect in-game upgrades, such as clothes. The dialogue animations can only be as good as the actual combat animations, and that's the one downside to RPG's of its kind. But still, with that said, Uncharted failed to meet the 8.5 or 9.0.

See here is the thing about Uncharted being owned:

Uncharted: 8.0 AA

Masseffect 360 version: 8.5 still AA

Whereas when I was stating at least one got it right I was referring to Masseffect on the PC getting a 9.0 thus taking the game to AAA status. But I guess you didn't feel the need to realize that as you just like to laugh yourself as being being right.

I started this thread as a way to show how Uncharted 2 does shine in the Graphics department, and when people came on here stating that Masseffect looked better than Uncharted 2, claiming it almost as fact, well there was obviously some faults to that claim on why Masseffect is not considered a Graphical Prowess of a game.

Unlike myself who pointed out the obvious deficiencies of the graphics of Mass Effect, you and other lemmings were the ones who were being nitpicky on Uncharted 2, going so far as to claim where the rain drops were in the puddles. Now that is going a bit extreme, albeit the game is not finished as of yet, but if your seriously that involved in graphics, than I don't know how you can claim Mass Effect or even that of Alan Wake to be good looking as no games graphics should fit your taste besides that of Crysis.

But if you really want to be that nitpicky, than I would be more than obliged to prove you wrong, there are in fact rain drops in the water and even so far as to on the ground. So I guess the reason for you not liking Uncharted 2 Graphics has gone above you criticism, so if anyone should be claiming ownage right now, it should be Naughty Dog for creating a fantastic looking game.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Delsage"]

Yes cause that .5 difference makes Mass Effect such a better game. Seriously the PC version of Mass Effect scored better than the 360 version, at least one got it right.

I was not the one who brought Mass Effect into play, but I notice how you and other lemmings try to bring Metal Gear Solid 4 on the table to try and claim "ownage" well personnally that's fine with me, but if you really want to throw scores around to see what's the better game, than how about this one.

MGS4: 10

Mass Effect: 8.5

Good job trying to "own" me as some of the lemmings have so claimed.

The characters in Mass Effect do look like plastic, and I don't think you can counteract that statement as you have done a good job embarrassing your self into trying to point out any flaws you can with Uncharted 2 just to prove a point.

Both cutscenes for Uncharted and Mass Effect are done from ingame engine as you said. While Mass Effect may be "somewhat" interactive as you can control what the character says for the conversation, it not like it's completely interactive as your making it out to be. Nor with gameplay can you interact with the environment of Mass Effect as you can with Uncharted.

Most of the time the Characters in Mass Effect do look stiff, and there is little movement even in the cutscenes. I urge you to prove me wrong on this, even their facial expressions remain the same.

Delsage

One got it right? Yet both still outscored Uncharted. Lulz. I guess Uncharted got it very wrong, atleast by the logic you're using. Lol.

Embarrassing myself? You're the one that started this. As stated in a previous post, had you read it, I was posting the U2 screen to show the hypocrisy in this argument. It's okie dokie for U2 to show the characteristics of rain on his shirt, thus making it have a shiny appearance, yet it's wrong when a plasticy/metal kind of material has natural characteristics? It shows that said argument doesn't hold up and was only used to bash one game, but not the other, which fits right in with System Wars, I guess.

Like I said, both use the in-game engine for cutscenes. One uses it dynamically, though, like I said, which reflects said appearance changes and outfit changes. All RPG's with that ability use an in-game interactive cutscenes, which prompts whenever you walk up to said character and begin interactive dialogue. That's a fact, and also why all RPG's of its kind don't show the exceptional animations of an Uncharted, etc. And also this explains said "stuffness", as the cutscenes and dialogue scenes happen dynamically in-game, thus they don't have the more linear and top notch produced scenes in a game that already has said scenes in motion and can't change to reflect in-game upgrades, such as clothes. The dialogue animations can only be as good as the actual combat animations, and that's the one downside to RPG's of its kind. But still, with that said, Uncharted failed to meet the 8.5 or 9.0.

See here is the thing about Uncharted being owned:

Uncharted: 8.0 AA

Masseffect 360 version: 8.5 still AA

Whereas when I was stating at least one got it right I was referring to Masseffect on the PC getting a 9.0 thus taking the game to AAA status. But I guess you didn't feel the need to realize that as you just like to laugh yourself as being being right.

I started this thread as a way to show how Uncharted 2 does shine in the Graphics department, and when people came on here stating that Masseffect looked better than Uncharted 2, claiming it almost as fact, well there was obviously some faults to that claim on why Masseffect is not considered a Graphical Prowess of a game.

Unlike myself who pointed out the obvious deficiencies of the graphics of Mass Effect, you and other lemmings were the ones who were being nitpicky on Uncharted 2, going so far as to claim where the rain drops were in the puddles. Now that is going a bit extreme, albeit the game is not finished as of yet, but if your seriously that involved in graphics, than I don't know how you can claim Mass Effect or even that of Alan Wake to be good looking as no games graphics should fit your taste besides that of Crysis.

But if you really want to be that nitpicky, than I would be more than obliged to prove you wrong, there are in fact rain drops in the water and even so far as to on the ground. So I guess the reason for you not liking Uncharted 2 Graphics has gone above you criticism, so if anyone should be claiming ownage right now, it should be Naughty Dog for creating a fantastic looking game.

An 8.5 is still higher than an 8.0. That's that. I agree that U2 looks better than ME, though. It should, of course. ME came out in 2007. But I was just stating the truth, as I felt things were getting so easily mixed up about the technical facts and difficulties when designing a game that operated/functions differently.

If people want realism join the Army, otherwise be quiet. Also, the PS3 has some of the best graphic games next to PC. And if you do a real game to game shot to shot gameplay to gameplay you will see that PS3 does indeed have better looking games, to say otherwise makes you a fanboy.

And another thing, Alan Wake and LP2 gameplay and screenshots are all PC which has been confirmed, most likely it is same for MASS EFFECT 2. It is really stupid to hail graphics king before a game comes out and you actually play the final copy, you're all acting like children, it's just a game, not real life. Buy the console of your choice, or all of them and be quiet.

I also suggest all of you get a job, you bums, and save up a good $800 to buy yourself a PC, it's worth it.

Why argue over which looks best when they all look terrible on a large screen. Killzone is the worst offender but the PS3 just struggles overall with AA and the higher resolutions.1080pOnly

What screen size are we talking about? :?

Why argue over which looks best when they all look terrible on a large screen. Killzone is the worst offender but the PS3 just struggles overall with AA and the higher resolutions.1080pOnly

If people want realism join the Army, otherwise be quiet. Also, the PS3 has some of the best graphic games next to PC. And if you do a real game to game shot to shot gameplay to gameplay you will see that PS3 does indeed have better looking games, to say otherwise makes you a fanboy.

And another thing, Alan Wake and LP2 gameplay and screenshots are all PC which has been confirmed, most likely it is same for MASS EFFECT 2. It is really stupid to hail graphics king before a game comes out and you actually play the final copy, you're all acting like children, it's just a game, not real life. Buy the console of your choice, or all of them and be quiet.

I also suggest all of you get a job, you bums, and save up a good $800 to buy yourself a PC, it's worth it.

SamGv

AW PC has been canceled, everything from E3 09 and on is 360.

Mass Effect 2 was played on a 360 at gamespots stage demo.

LP2, well I don't really know, but I'm confident it will look better that U2 on either console.

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[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"] Uncharted 2 is graphics king material but its debatable if its Graphics King but critics have even Uncharted 2 many Graphics Awards at E3, thats says something. Devs usually show the the stuff they worked on first, meaning we havent seen the best of Uncharted 2 yet. I agree that we should wait until the full game comes out despite people like myself that participated in the beta. Threebabycows

I agree that U2 will be console graphics king this year.

I am sorry but I see RE5 and U2 in the same way, graphically, the same amount of detail, it is just Uncharted has a more cartoony art s t y l e, therefore looks better on the eyes, which it does.

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Here you go:

W1NGMAN-

Those are the best character models I've ever seen in a game, holy crap ND really out did themselves with U2.

I could beleive it if someone said these were bullshots.

[QUOTE="SamGv"]

If people want realism join the Army, otherwise be quiet. Also, the PS3 has some of the best graphic games next to PC. And if you do a real game to game shot to shot gameplay to gameplay you will see that PS3 does indeed have better looking games, to say otherwise makes you a fanboy.

And another thing, Alan Wake and LP2 gameplay and screenshots are all PC which has been confirmed, most likely it is same for MASS EFFECT 2. It is really stupid to hail graphics king before a game comes out and you actually play the final copy, you're all acting like children, it's just a game, not real life. Buy the console of your choice, or all of them and be quiet.

I also suggest all of you get a job, you bums, and save up a good $800 to buy yourself a PC, it's worth it.

Vaasman

AW PC has been canceled, everything from E3 09 and on is 360.

Mass Effect 2 was played on a 360 at gamespots stage demo.

LP2, well I don't really know, but I'm confident it will look better that U2 on either console.

[QUOTE="SamGv"]

If people want realism join the Army, otherwise be quiet. Also, the PS3 has some of the best graphic games next to PC. And if you do a real game to game shot to shot gameplay to gameplay you will see that PS3 does indeed have better looking games, to say otherwise makes you a fanboy.

And another thing, Alan Wake and LP2 gameplay and screenshots are all PC which has been confirmed, most likely it is same for MASS EFFECT 2. It is really stupid to hail graphics king before a game comes out and you actually play the final copy, you're all acting like children, it's just a game, not real life. Buy the console of your choice, or all of them and be quiet.

I also suggest all of you get a job, you bums, and save up a good $800 to buy yourself a PC, it's worth it.

Vaasman

AW PC has been canceled, everything from E3 09 and on is 360.

Mass Effect was played on a 360 at gamespots stage demo on a 360.

LP2, well I don't really know, but I'm confident it will look better that U2 on either console.

@YekDastan316

I mean in the videos I have seen and most pics, the background looks great, that is what makes those two pics slightly over RE5. In some vid uncharted 2 look average to me, no lie. It is just that it isn't UC2 graphics don't destroy the other good looking games graphics, it is just ahead, not large leap by any means, yhe cows are trying to make extremely large lol, and it isn't.

[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

[QUOTE="SambaLele"]

Here you go:

muzik_mafia

Those are the best character models I've ever seen in a game, holy crap ND really out did themselves with U2.

I could beleive it if someone said these were bullshots.

[QUOTE="1080pOnly"]Why argue over which looks best when they all look terrible on a large screen. Killzone is the worst offender but the PS3 just struggles overall with AA and the higher resolutions.Storm_Marine

What screen size are we talking about? :?

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="1080pOnly"]Why argue over which looks best when they all look terrible on a large screen. Killzone is the worst offender but the PS3 just struggles overall with AA and the higher resolutions.1080pOnly

What screen size are we talking about? :?

Actually, only PS3 fanboys will disagree. Anyone else would know that all these screens are downscaled to remove the aliasing. Put the same pic on a 46 inch HDTV and it looks like garbage.

[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

[QUOTE="SambaLele"]

Here you go:

*teh pics*

muzik_mafia

Those are the best character models I've ever seen in a game, holy crap ND really out did themselves with U2.

I could beleive it if someone said these were bullshots.

those ARE BS coz uncharted 2 has quite alot of jaggies which you dont see on those pics